Yea, I know you guys will go with 

"Well it's easy to counter with xx xxx and xxx"

I have only been playing for 3 weeks and dont have money to spend and dont have alot of cards.

Also I don't know the game like you guys do and don't have the time to sit around and learn all this stuff you guys know.

Expeditions are basically 85% new content, and the old shit gets beaten by the new.

Maybe if you are a high skilled player it's not true that all this new shit is broken and overpowered but for a casual like me it's really depressing to face 100% "new" decks every time you play because everyone realizes how good they are.

When I play Targon with invoke cards I win. If I play other regions, I lose. Or it's a mirror match.

Not fun :(

So mobalytics has finally gotten solid meta rankings for the call of the mountain meta.

What we are seeing is that bilgewater is pretty much dominating in all it's forms

With targon only being represented in B tier.

https://lor.mobalytics.gg/meta-tier-list

The reason for this is pretty straightforward

As I had mentioned before Targon champs aren't good.

They don't present win conditions.

In fact non champ plays like jamming a spectral matron at 8 onto the scourge and buffing your whole board is better then Sol

So is just buffing everything in your board, deck, and hand by 2

Or one sided board wipes

Or double vengence

etc. etc.

The other big issue is the 3 slot, bilge water has a 3/2 that summons a 2/1 on average

Targon has a 1/2 or 2/1 that doesn't do anything

In fact grabbing a 0 mana snake is often the right play and people don't do it

Anyway I digress what do you guys think of the meta

She has never been a good card but now with Sol really wanting to be played with Freljord ramp or Thresh. But mostly ramp. She will never be picked.

These are my ideas to make her more viable. Bump her down to 8 mana. Make her a 8/8. Get rid of regen and give her something like fury or challenger. Then change her obliterate to kill 3 attack unites rather than 4 attack and only unites on board. Not in hand.

That makes her an option for Sol or troll ramp. Either use her or the new Dragon card that stuns people. I don't know its name. Also she doesn't step on the toes of Icequake because she obliterates 3 attack unites not 3 health ones and can also take out her own unites too.

It will be an option of do you want to keep two really annoying large unites stunned indefinitely next round on word or take out a bunch of low attack unites now?  

So I don't know if anyone else is experiencing this, but for about a week now my game has to update every time I start it. It's not a long update so it's really not that big of a deal, but it's long enough to be slightly annoying compared to the usual startup time, and I'm curious if it's just me or if this is also the case for other people.

I believe most of you saw an increase in players Roping in your matches... So, I believe I found a bug.

Everyday, the very first time I use any Discover effect, the options simply... Don't show. Which causes roping because I can't do anything else before the Discover mechanic is accomplished, which causes a wasted turn.

It's important to note this also happens with Discover effects from Battlegrounds, like when you drop a golden minion in play.

Has anyone else seem this?

I mean. I'm not the game designer. And I have nothing against control decks. I like playing them. 

But has anyone considered that giving control  blockers that replace themselves could be problematic? I would have expected a few of them either would have 0 power, or couldn't block. But getting chumps that can potentially kill on block, and also replace themselves with a good spell is a bit much.

When I looked at the Targon cards. All I saw was a boost to control. I did see the synergy with Noxus, but those decks will be easier to deal with than the control ones. The 4/5 is a pretty good roadblock for something that gives you a card.

And if I ever See a Taric next to a karma. I'll probably just concede.

Those that keep clicking the yellow kite on the Panderia board until it goes away and those that leave it flapping around like the idiots they are who are bad at life.

just my two cents. 

So I had the opportunity to craft a lot of the core Targon invoke cards and figure out how the archetype is supposed to win, and the answer is easy.

cosmic inspiration buffs every one of your under-stated invoke creatures in deck and hand so they are grossly over-stated

You then get to absolutely crush the opponent

your 3/5 is a 5/7 your 1/2 is a 3/4 etc. etc.

If you are playing invoke allegience and you aren't playing inspiration you are basically just playing wrong unfortunately.

That's my hot take, let me know what you guys think

Hi

I wonder if the content team would consider making the weekly tavern brawl a dedicated news article.

I know there is a link to the current brawl on the right, which shares it's posts with all previous times the brawl has been seen and the appearance dates of which are listed, and I like the efficiency of that - it's very clean.

But it doesn't feel like a shared experience that we get with a front page article on the subject where experiences/decks are shared etc.  They don't seem to garner much in the way of community feedback most weeks whereas a new article likely would.

Do you think I should of went with a different champion than Zed? Is Fae guide too bad? Just looking for helpful criticism.

I was thinking Fae Guide + Ghost would be good for extra damage with the non elusives but maybe its too slow and I have hush to counter other elusives. 

Topic.

Now I have to explain this, but it is something that seems like it can't just be a coincidence.

After opening my initial packs in Scholomance I had opened a bunch of golden rares (about 5 total). Now I never keep golden rares because I don't like to waste extra dust, however, with the no duplicate rule it makes it so a golden rare counts to the limit, meaning you won't be able to open normal copies until after you've collected all the rares in the set. This, I thought, would mean that there is very little chance of getting the non-golden rares from packs to be able to disenchant the golden ones.

However, today I opened my ranked rewards and for some reason I got all of the remaining non-golden rares from the Scholomance set (I had previously opened my last missing one a few days ago). Essentially, what I believe to be the case is that there is a seperate no-dupe counter for your non-golden cards that will go into effect once you've opened all rares of a set and will prioritize all cards that you don't own 2 non-golden copies of. I assume this also applies to commons and epics (and legendaries I guess).

Was this ever explicitly stated? Because regardless it's a very nice QoL feature for those who want to maximize dust and don't care about goldens.

I just want to talk about the new targon, the latest expansion. The Targon is ruining my experience overall. I love and only play lux in LOR and I don’t think a region should make a  character completely useless. Lux wasn’t even good to begin with and now she is dog shit. I’m very annoyed and unhappy. I’ve been thinking about quitting after the new expansion...

I have to wonder, why play bad invoke cards like priestess in a stun deck.

The concepts have very little to do with one another and only leads to free losses

Instead lets use those stuns for tempo and absolutely wreck with rally's and battering ram finisher

We always win now right

So the first champion I grabbed as a 3 of out of the new set is Lu Lu, and I instantly set out to put her in a strong list.

She's pretty good as long as you run her balls to the wall aggro, along with cheap challengers, lots of barriers and buffs.

Hello Guys !

After I've tried so much decks, combinations and cards, I just wanted to share the decks that I most enjoyed.

There should have been more decks that I brewed and tried but some got unsuccessful and others are just shared already by other forum users and played/crafted already by streamers. So I've brought these to your attention.

These are the ones that passed just my personal success tests around 10-20 games. Other decks that I brewed couldn't make their place here.

If you want some different approach from streamer decks or don't have the specific cards for them, you might want to check these out. I don't claim these decks are wonderful but I enjoyed enough so wanted to share them with you.

And If you like the deck, don't forget to check the deck's link because i have wrote some explanations to the guide section of them.

Some of them are not refined enough and needs some replacements probably. So if you have any advices, just suggest them here and we will make them better !

and Here they are;

There was a ton of hype around this little card around expansion launch and I haven't seen a single player experiment with it.

I think this a result of nerf mentality that Noxious allegiance lists got hit and it was just baby out with the bath water.

Well I'm here to tell you that Darius is good, and that there is a deck out there for this great card.

Give it a shot and let me know what you guys think.

I just want to talk about the new targon, the latest expansion. The Targon is ruining my experience overall. I love and only play lux in LOR and I don’t think a region should make a  character completely useless. Lux wasn’t even good to begin with and now she is dog shit. I’m very annoyed and unhappy. I’ve been thinking about quitting after the new expansion...

Keep your sanity and don't do it. Last season I got to Diamond 3 and it was a nightmare. Everyone used meta decks and never made a mistake which got frustrating and rather boring real fast. Before Diamond you could just mess around with any deck and progress. But in Diamond everyone is tryharding to get to Masters. And for what? Apparently master players say the majority of people who get to masters just kinda relax after getting there and start building random decks to mess around with since the grind is gone.

So I ask you all, what is the point? You can still have that same experience by just sticking around in the lower ranks and not having to deal with the mind numbing grind through Diamond. I can't speak much for Iron, bronze, and silver, since I wasn't there for too long; but the best ranks I find are in gold and plat. You can still mess around and try new decks and not get face stomped by meta deck after meta deck while doing it. The worst rank is definitely Diamond by far. No creativity, super sweaty players, and worst of all, BORING!

Has anyone noticed golden animations missing some of the layers in this last expansion?
I've noticed it more bluntly in Pen Flinger, Tour Guide and Teacher's Pet

Now that the expansion has been out for a couple days players have gotten over their initial impressions of the set and we can talk about honest to god counters to Targon as a region.

I wanted to lay out a few of the findings I have found personally.

1. Lulu and Taric aren't very good against decks with high levels of interactivity.

- The essential weakness of support as a playstyle is that it requires that you develop into your board.

- For example you play this into a 1 drop and you get hit by make it rain, vile feast, or static shock

2. Slow Rampy Targon lists and card advantage lists get beat out by nab and Ionia

- Let's say you're playing dragons, Ionia isn't going to care because they can stun and recall your whole board, and Bilgewater will steal your stuff

3. Day and Night Decks aren't very good...without support that is

- Let's take day man as an example Leona needs dayman and if they can't get one to stick they can't go off.

- But what if instead we had a backup plan in case dayman dies, what if we jammed a wtf lethianthan with Swain

- Or we ran Frejord just to ensure day man had elixir of iron

4. The point is that Targon is a support region in the sense that it needs to compliment the more straight forward power present in other colors.

- The days of just jamming hush into an existing list and pretending it's better are over

- consider grabbing faster celestial plays, jamming huge dude's isn't going to cut it anymore

- Remember that everything has a counter figure out what you need to be playing around.

That's it guys let me know what counters you guys have found for Targon

So we see that the new ramp Trundle lists that were ever so popular at the release of the new set dropping down a tier in as little as one week.

This is pretty straight forward because playing a 3 mana 0/4 is bad

It's always been bad, and the expansion hasn't changed that.

We have lot's of challengers that can eat this for free with lulu support, or miss fortune

and even if you get your big ice quake off, that's still just a temporary setback to a lot of aggressive lists

So forget ramp let's just play on curve

With lots of healing and tricks

Until we hit 8 mana naturally and get to go off.

Ice pillar into a swing in with tyndamere and trundle, pretty nutty

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