A new Common Targon Unit, Moondreamer, has been revealed! [runecardimg rating]679[/runecardimg] Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating! Learn more about Call …
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A new Common Targon Spell, Behold the Infinite, has been revealed! [runecardimg rating]680[/runecardimg] Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating! Learn more ab…
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Playing Kingsbane Rogue I discovered that [card]Secret Passage[/card] will cause [card]Shadow Reflection[/card] from [card]Valeera the Hollow[/card] to not leave your hand at the end of you…
Playing Kingsbane Rogue I discovered that Secret Passage will cause Shadow Reflection from Valeera the Hollow to not leave your hand at the end of your turn. Furthermore the Shadow Reflections becomes a reflection of Secret Passage. I think it is because the Shadow Reflection returns from the ‘passage’ after your turn ends so the hero power doesn’t remove it at the end of your turn.
This gives you an extra shadow reflection next turn OR infinite secret passages (one every turn if Its the first card you play each turn).
No idea if this is of any use in some weird combo deck? Probably not but it’s a weird interaction anyway
A new Common Freljord Unit, Troll Ravager, has been revealed! [runecardimg rating]627[/runecardimg] Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating! Learn more about C…
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A new Rare Targon Unit, Lunari Priestess, has been revealed! [runecardimg rating]677[/runecardimg] Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating! Learn more about Ca…
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A new Rare Targon Unit, Spacey Sketcher, has been revealed! [runecardimg rating]675[/runecardimg] Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating! Learn more about Cal…
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A new Rare Targon Unit, Mountain Scryer, has been revealed! [runecardimg rating]674[/runecardimg] Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating! Learn more about Cal…
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I'm suggesting the following changes to a few cards from this year, for classes that in my opinion could use a little help. The aim of these buffs is to at least provide those classes with stronger …
I'm suggesting the following changes to a few cards from this year, for classes that in my opinion could use a little help.
The aim of these buffs is to at least provide those classes with stronger options to consolidate some "non-oppressive" archetypes.
Do you think some other cards should be buffed ? Or do you think these buffs are exagerated ?
A new Common Freljord Unit, Faces of the Old Ones, has been revealed! [runecardimg rating]625[/runecardimg] Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating! Learn more…
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Hello, it is I again, world renowned writer of the award winning thread I think I fixed Quest Hunter and creator of the critically acclaimed deck Hey now, you're a Zixor (results may vary). Now I'm u…
Hello, it is I again, world renowned writer of the award winning thread I think I fixed Quest Hunter and creator of the critically acclaimed deck Hey now, you're a Zixor (results may vary). Now I'm usually not one to abuse the forums to promotes my half baked homebrews (that's a lie, I have done that quite a lot, but I'm trying to stop), but this is a very special occasion.
Now the backstory is that after trying (and achieving mild success) to build a functional Quest Hunter deck for this expansion I eventually was inspired by fellow user Pezman to incorporate the whacky King Krush, Beastmaster Leoroxx, and Ramkahen Wildtamer combo as a finisher. Despite being technically promising the deck kind of fell short in terms of consistency, mainly because having 4 combo pieces in a Hunter deck that starts off with one less card doesn'T really work too well when you're already struggling to fight for the board and stay alive.
Disappointed by own failures but not willing to give up yet I was trying to find other ways to incorporate the Krush combo (in the process of which I ended up crafting all remaining Hunter legendaries of the current rotation, don't ask). I ended up brainstorming a way to just leave out the quest and use bothArcane Fletcher and Professor Slate as a way to create a deck that both has the draw power of Quest Hunter (who can use Cult Master quite well) as well as the ability to actually deal with the board and not just taking face damage every single turn.
Naturally, Pen Flinger seemed like a natural fit having great cross synergy with both the small spells and Fletcher. Furthermore, Krolusk Barkstripper seemed to make sense as well, especially since it counters the many "I make big minion and you lose" strategies that currently prevail. I filled the rest of the deck with 1-cost minions and all the useful 1-mana spells I could find.
Now I going in I had basically no expectations. I fully expected to just brick every other game and barely even compete. In short, I expected complete failure...but that didn't happen.
For some reason and through what can only be explained as an unholy miracle brought about by the powers of an eldritch god of chaos and confusion...I actually won games...and not just a few cheesy steals...legitimate beatdowns against meta decks. I'm not even sure how exactly it works, but there is just so much cross synergy in this deck that not only do you have a clear plan to victory in almost every matchup, but also just enough consistency to make it work with a +50% margin.
I'm not gonna tell you how to exactly play this deck because it's so much more fun going in blind and seeing it work for no reason in particular, but let me just sum up a few things:
- Pen Flinger is the absolute MVP. That fella puts in so much work, from removal to straight up murdering opponents from 10 health. He basically does what Vereesa Windrunner couldn't and more.
- The Krush combo is essentially just a failsafe. I have won plenty games without even playing Leoroxx or Krush (and also won some where I did play them, sometimes independantly from each other). Don't play like a regular combo deck, play like a burn/tempo deck trying to get in as much chip damage as you can. At the end of the day, Leo + a single Krush + Hero Power is 10 damage.
-Ramkahen Wildtamer was a dead draw in the Quest build, but here it's not only a combo piece but a value generator as well. Don't hold onto it if Krush is nowhere near. If you can copy something like a buffed [Hearthstone Card (Krolusk) Not Found], Wolpertinger or even just a Shimmerfly you're already doing well. The combo is only needed against control decks (such as Priest, Warrior, and the occasional Quest Shaman). Be careful not to accidentally hit the token from Adorable Infestation though
-Arcane Fletcher is your draw power, but, much like Cult Master, don't be afraid to just draw 2 cards (or even 1, depending on your situation). The key is being just greedy enough to not fall behind.
So anyways, after much hype, here's the list. While I believe there are still some potential improvements possible this is pretty much my finalized list. There aren't really any cards that need replacing. It's not gonna get any more consistent than this. Do note that first and foremost this is a fun deck. Don't craft any of these cards if you're short on dust expecting to get a nice winstreak to Legend. You can climb with it, but it mostly exists to confuse your opponent and make them question how in god's name they could have lost against this deck.
(I do recommend playing this now. Who knows how the meta shifts in the next expansion and after the rotation the deck falls apart without Arcane Fletcher anyways)
Greetings there! I'm here to present you my version of how I would change Mage's Core Sets. I'm jumping the bandwagon a bit with the changes after seeing some other people trying their reworks and ge…
Greetings there! I'm here to present you my version of how I would change Mage's Core Sets. I'm jumping the bandwagon a bit with the changes after seeing some other people trying their reworks and generally accepting classes may need some updates.
This time, I've put crossfire onto Hunter. While it's very hard to actually do them, please don't think I'm going to make changes for literally every class, altough if I get bored, I might do in near future. Also chose Hunter this time, because it's time to finally change Starving Buzzard to not be the overnerfed relic of the past, and time to give Hunter a bit proper control tools to make this dream come true.
Strengths and Weaknesses
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Predatory Hunter - basically deals 2 damage, but summons a Beast. Useful for summon synergies like Unseal the Vault. Starving Buzzard - finally able to fly without being handcapped by the abysmal effect and stats. Wandering Monster - a bit better at saving your face. Monstrous Mark - gives Hunter a way to pierce through defenses and damage the enemy hero. Rat Pack - adds a decent minion to buff up and summon large units. Storm Arrows - the ultimate board clear. Princess Huhuran - lets you trigger Deathrattle synergies.
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Some cards that were considered, but didn't make the cut
Wolpertinger - this was originally meant to be added to the Basic Set, but adding freshly released cards is probably unintuitive. The Beast Within - probably even worse than [Hearthstone Card (Bestail Wrath) Not Found], so a big no no. Springpaw - similar to Tinger, but probably even stronger. Venomstrike Trap - debating whether this or Wandering Monster should make the cut. I went with the latter as a more famillar replacement to HoF'd Misdirection, but I can definitely see a world in which this card is worth including. Steamwheedle Sniper - close contender to give Hunter an early control tool, but I already created a huge control tool for the class. Flanking Strike - very solid, but probably too solid to ever exist in the evergreen set as a powerful tempo tool. Overwhelm - suits the theme of having a lot of Beasts impressively, but it has the same problem of being new to the game and probably being too strong to be evergreen. Terrorscale Stalker - I wanted to include some sort of Deathrattle synergy. This one was close to include, but I'd say Princess Huhuran is safer than this and Feign Death that I also thought I'll include. Among many, many, MANY other cards…
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TL;DR - Does Discover give every card an equal probability of being displayed? When the Discover effect was changed to "not favor class cards", I just naively assumed that every available ca…
TL;DR - Does Discover give every card an equal probability of being displayed?
When the Discover effect was changed to "not favor class cards", I just naively assumed that every available card had an equal probabiltiy of being shown as an option.
For example, Primordial Explorer gives you the option of 3 dragons and there are currently 20 Neutral Dragons and 2 Hunter class Dragons in Standard (not counting Primoridal Explorer itself given the recent change). Without thinking about it, I just assumed that the probability of getting say Rotnest Drake was 1/22 for the 1st discover option, 1/21 for the 2nd discover option, and 1/20 for the 3rd discover option (I don't remember ever getting the same Dragon shown twice, but if that's possible then the probability would be 1/22 for each option).
However, this video was randomly recommended to me on YouTube today (had never heard of them before) and I gave it a listen. The hyperlink skips to the 43:45 mark where an argument is made that Discover instead works as a 2-stage gamble so-to-speak. For each of the 3 options there's a 1/2 probability that the card will be drawn from the Neutral Pool or the Class Pool. After this, another die is rolled where every card in the respective pool has an equal probability of being displayed (without replacement).
So in the example above the probability of Rotnest Drake would be 25% for each of the 3 discover options (50% to be a class card and then 50% to be Rotnest Drake given that it's a class card). Is this really the case??
A new Common Targon Spell, Morning Light, has been revealed! [runecardimg rating]673[/runecardimg] Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating! Learn more about Ca…
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I'm growing bored with Runeterra. I don't play ladder, Labs is incredibly random, and Expedition mode is, IMO, like Arena but worse. That leaves Casual play, which is sometimes fun,…
I'm growing bored with Runeterra. I don't play ladder, Labs is incredibly random, and Expedition mode is, IMO, like Arena but worse. That leaves Casual play, which is sometimes fun, but I have more Shards than I know what to do with and could craft enough Champions to have 3x of every existing one. I've max leveled every region, and I'm just growing bored and frustrated with the mechanics and how much decks rely on a single Champion.
How is HS these days? I haven't played in probably a year, but I've still watched my favorite streamers. Battlegrounds looks really fun - is it free or do you have to pay? How's the deck variety in regular play? I do like what they've done with Ranked. Playing LoR has made me really appreciate a lot of the mechanics of HS, believe it or not.
A new Common Piltover & Zaun Spell, Poro Cannon, has been revealed! [runecardimg rating]671[/runecardimg] Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating! Learn mo…
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A new Champion Targon Unit, Diana, has been revealed! [runecardimg rating]669[/runecardimg] Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating! Learn more about Call of t…
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On its initial announcement, I think it was kind of hard to judge what the sets vs. expansions would look like. Riot said each region would get new cards each expansion, but they made it clear that n…
On its initial announcement, I think it was kind of hard to judge what the sets vs. expansions would look like. Riot said each region would get new cards each expansion, but they made it clear that new champions and cards would be spread out unevenly across the set. What was clear, though, was that:
At this point they've revealed 50 of the upcoming 89 cards, including five of the seven champions. So far, Targon has 21 of those cards, with two of the champions. It seems reasonable to expect the remaining two champions to be from Targon, with a new Targon champion and two other region's champions in each subsequent expansion. Each new champion typically to get about eight or nine supporting cards.
With all that in mind, it seems logical to expect that Targon will get about 30 more cards in this expansion, and then another ~10 in each subsequent expansion (one champion plus supporting cards) so that when this is all said and done, each region gets to that ~76 card total. If all this is correct, that means the remaining four regions (Bilgewater, Demacia, P&Z, and Noxus) will be left dividing up about 10 new cards in this expansion.
Obviously this is a bit of speculation, but if those numbers are all basically right, then I'm honestly a bit shocked at this approach to releasing cards. In any other CCG, I would have expected a more even distribution across existing regions (at least of the non-champion cards). Specifically in the context of Riot's announced plans, I would have expected something more like Hearthstone's adventure content (most recently, "Galakrond's Awakening") in which each region gets about the same number of cards in each set, but a lower number than in a full set. I assume the reason here is that so many of the new cards tie back to champions, so they have to be released in tandem.
Maybe others don't mind that - Targon will certainly offer a lot of new content to pair with existing regions - but it seems like a bummer for anyone who likes to play any of these (presumably) neglected regions. For example, there might be a new Ezreal deck that uses Targon Gems to trigger the OTK, or there might be a new Lux Control deck that is excited to see cards like Sunburst and Bastion. But ultimately what is most likely to come out of this first expansion for those (presumably) neglected regions is a little bit support for a lot of old play patterns. The set of tools players will have to meaningfully developed new strategies in these regions will be significantly diminished, and I think ultimately that's going to be disappointing for any player who loves one of those regions.
(There's one other possible outcome here. You can imagine seeing more of the mechanics that have already shown up - Behold, Nightfall, Daybreak, and SpellShield - as new expansions are released. It's common to see champion's have natural pairs in other regions - e.g. Braum and Vladimir. If there are missing components to those synergies that will be released in later parts of the set, then there's also a risk that their initial impacts will fall flat and make the initial expansion a bit of a disappointment for the new content. Either way, this strategy seems to have a lot of risk of negatives without a lot of clear upsides.)
A new Epic Targon Unit, Cygnus the Moonstalker, has been revealed! [runecardimg rating]670[/runecardimg] Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating! Learn more ab…
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A new Common Targon Spell, Pale Cascade, has been revealed! [runecardimg rating]672[/runecardimg] Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating! Learn more about C…
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When Bad Luck Albatross was 3 mana it was used a lot, especially in Wild against Reno decks. Then it got nerfed to 4 mana and nobody plays it since then - even when Reno Priest is "everywhere" and a …
When Bad Luck Albatross was 3 mana it was used a lot, especially in Wild against Reno decks.
Then it got nerfed to 4 mana and nobody plays it since then - even when Reno Priest is "everywhere" and a top deck with an answer to everything and no real weaknesses anymore.
With Albatross you often had enough time to kill the Priest until he heals for 20 or more HP for 6 Mana with a 4/6 body attached to it.
Maybe Albatross was and would still be too strong as a 3 mana 4/3 - but for 4 mana with the same stats it is way too weak.
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So what do you think: Is Albatross fine at the moment as it is or should it be buffed in some way again?
Should it be a 3 Mana 4/3 again or how about other solutions, for example be a 3/3 for 3 mana or a 5/4 for 4 mana?
A new Common Targon Unit, Lunari Duskbringer, has been revealed! [runecardimg rating]662[/runecardimg] Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating! Learn more abou…
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How have you been finding the Arena and what's the best strategy? Thought I had a decent deck of good value stats and OP cards with a good curve but ended up going 1-3 as priest.since classic, I've …
How have you been finding the Arena and what's the best strategy?
Thought I had a decent deck of good value stats and OP cards with a good curve but ended up going 1-3 as priest.
since classic, I've always spent 90% of my gold on arena runs, but I took a break over the last 2 expansions.
Hi there [deck]18955[/deck] Saw Lt. Eddy Raw play the Deck on Stream and it looked fun and also did pretty decent. I always liked the Idea about Big Demon Hunter so i wanted to share the Deck - i'l…
Hi there
Saw Lt. Eddy Raw play the Deck on Stream and it looked fun and also did pretty decent. I always liked the Idea about Big Demon Hunter so i wanted to share the Deck - i'll definitely gonna try this deck this weekend.
Ideas on how to improve the deck are pretty welcome!
Have fun!
A new Common Targon Unit, Lunari Shadestalker, has been revealed! [runecardimg rating]663[/runecardimg] Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating! Learn more abo…
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I was playing some Galakrond priest deck, so I generate randomly 2 copies of [card]Shadowy Figure[/card]. On other side I get [card]Bandersmosh[/card] from [card]Brightwing[/card]. At this point i co…
I was playing some Galakrond priest deck, so I generate randomly 2 copies of Shadowy Figure. On other side I get Bandersmosh from Brightwing. At this point i could play a Rattlegore from a transformed Bandersmosh, so it was a 5/5 minion and copy it with both Shadowy Figure (2/2 copies).
What happen was that after killing both Shadowy Figure transformed into the Rattlegore, was summon an 8/8 Rattlegore instead of a 1/1.
Now I understant that Rattlegore works checking the original card and not the original stats of the minion, but seems a bit confusing.
