Just me or quest shaman super strong ? control warrior still worth playing with dr 9 to counter or is there another control deck out there ?

Hearthstone does a great job of showcasing characters, abilities, and weapons from Azeroth, but one thing I would like to see included are the amazing locations. I've been trying to come up with how to turn this concept into a card type, but I need some help. I call them "Strongholds" and they would be spells that would pop up on your secrets "frame" around your hero like quests do, giving some kind of defensive or offensive bonus, and requiring some kind of special action from your opponent to bypass or destroy. The issue is that they can't have too hard of requirements to bypass or they will automatically win against any deck that doesn't have the cards to meet requirements. On the other hand, they have to be powerful enough to be worth playing in the first place. I'd love to hear some ideas out there. I want to capture the fantasy of taking refuge behind a wall or in a magical temple that will help you in a battle.

Inspired by ZardozSpeakZ's Screams of the Old Gods, I decided to do a buff event for Rastakhan's Rumble. Why this expansion particularly? For a last expansion of the year, it seemed to have very low impact. Sure, some cards like Da Undatakah or Zul'jin were really powerul (and still are), but mainly it was just a lot of support for existing archtypes or support for Gonk Druid, Discardlock and Healadin. But I'm not gonna go so much in detail because that's not really the point and also because I'll give a brief explanation of my choice on each card.

But first:

A new Loa, Rezan the King! And another use of the Start of Game ability. Similair to Sir Finley Mrrgglton, it gives you a new starting Hero Power, however you cannot choose which one. But if you don't like what you get, you can return your original hero Power by playing Rezan.	And a Spirit to accompany the Loa, Spirit of the King! The King gladly helps the meek. Useful in any deck that wants its low Cost cards or some drawing consistency .

And yes, all players get Rezan and two Spirits of the King for FREE!

Onto the buffs:

	Fair buffs	Interesting buffs
Druid	It seems unfair that one option is so obviously worse than the other one. It's not a big buff, but I think the card would start to see some play, if anything because of versatility.	Big Beast Druid seemed promising, but Undatakah was just better. The card has been lost ever since, but with this buff someone might stir up a viable Big Beast Druid.
Hunter	Halazzi is pretty useless now, even in casual decks. Reducing the Cost by 1 means you can play it turn 5 with a Lynx, but it would probably still see no serious ranked play.	There's some experimentation with this in Highlander Hunter,  but that's it. With 3 Attack, it becomes much better when played without a Weapon and great when played when you have one equiped.
Mage	Making Elemental support 4 months before Un'goro and Frost Lich Jaina leave Standard. At least now it's more versatile and comparable to Vendetta.	Not only is Dragon Priest arguably better than Elemental Mage, they also make Elemental Duskbreaker cost 6. It could see play if Elementals become Mage's class identity (like Beasts in Hunter).
Paladin	Spirit of the Tiger has potential, but it's too slow and Paladin doesn't have many good high-Cost spells. Reducing the Cost by 1 helps getting more value from it with midrange spells like Blessing of Kings.	Since the current Bloodclaw has too big of a downside, even in occasional Healadins, making it 3/2 would make it much better for early control as well as aggression.
Priest	Was designed mainly as CC nerf, but it's still a Nomi/Spell Priest buff. Also, Evolve Shaman can now get this from evolving 10-Cost minions. Take that as you want.	Surrender to Madness 2.0! Get 2 dead Keleseths, but pay 1 now and the other throughout the game! Probably still not nearly viable, but definitely much cooler.
Rogue	Although you might be lucky enough to get Twig or Dragon Soul in Wild, that chance is shrinking with every new weapon, not to mention how ineffective this is in Standard.	Theoretically, 5-Cost Gral is good as long as it eats a 3/4 or 4/3 or higher stated minion. So a 4-Cost Gral needs to eat a 2/3 or 3/2 or higher to be good. Again, just theoretically.
Shaman	Still bad, but hey, this wouldn't be realistic if there wasn't at least one badly thought-out change, now would it? *laughs in Flark's Boom-Zooka*	Easily one of the least played and known cards of the set. By reducing the requirement, the card becomes a lot more accessible and easier to play at any point of the game.
Warlock	A card occasionally used by Zoolock. Since Warlock sucks right now, having a better answer to big minions is fine. Best part is that it can now cost 0.	Definitely the biggest buff of all, and Warlock could really use it right now. Unlike Luna's Pocket Galaxy, this gives you no value, but it can easily mess up your opponent's deck.
Warrior	Rush Warrior isn't a great deck, and Spirit of the Rhino even there isn't worth a slot. With 0 Mana, it is much simpler to play Rush minions in the same turn, but it's still only good as a part of a bad deck.	The only Dragon Warrior card that wasn't played. With almost vanilla stats it can give you better control to play those copies. And with DoD coming up, this might just become relevant.

Thoughts are welcome!

So I've gotten quite bored with the recent meta with the decks I had so I wanna craft something new, fun and viable.

I've come down to either Quest Wall Priest or Quest Druid, both seems really fun and quite strong after the recent nerfs.

Which one should I go with?

"The question in each and every thing, 'Do you want this again and innumerable times again?'..."
- Friedrich Nietzsche, The Gay Science, 1882

Hi everyone,

The "specter of infinite monotony" threatens many of life's pleasures and sadly Hearthstone is no exception.  So why not spice up your HS experience with a new deck to master/improve every week on your journey to legend?!

The game is simple, each week someone (likely me) will post the deck picked by Firebat for his YouTube show Deck Doctor.  Your job will be to take Firebat's place!

1. Copy the original list and take it for a test drive on ladder.
   • Leave comments on your reactions to the deck here!
2. Make changes to the list and try, try, try again.
   • Only constraint is to preserve the soul of the original deck.
   • Although Firebat limits his changes to Standard, feel free to take your build in a Wild direction :)
3. Upload your favorite version of your list here and tell us about your experience!

If there's interest, we could even hold a weekly competition to see who can climb the highest in both Standard and Wild with screenshots/replays uploaded and a leaderboard and all that jazz.

We could also expand the game so that people submit their own decks to be doctored by the OOC community!  (slowly morphing the thread into the deckbuilding challenge of old...and then my plan will be complete, muahahah ;D )

OK, enough of this small talk; doctor, you're needed in the OR, Stat!

Edit: I updated the list  !

I took out Chef Nomi and Tending Tauren.

Put in a second Nourish and im trying a Dreampetal Florist because we go the Maly Route now :) 

Edit: Updated the list a little bit! 

I took out the Dreampetal Florist because so far it was not needed nor performing good for me - and i put in a King Phaoris - let's see how it goes!

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Hi there

I wanted to try my Own Quest Druid build :

SoU - Quest Druid w/Maly

Wild · Malygos Druid · by FieselFitz · 6 years, 10 months ago

• 0 Moonfire x 2
• 1 Untapped Potential x 1
• 1 Worthy Expedition x 2
• 2 Crystal Merchant x 2
• 2 Keeper Stalladris x 1
• 2 Wrath x 2
• 3 BEEEES!!! x 2
• 3 Ferocious Howl x 2
• 3 Swipe x 2
• 4 Flobbidinous Floop x 1
• 4 Mark of the Loa x 1
• 5 Anubisath Defender x 2
• 5 Elise the Enlightened x 1
• 5 Nourish x 2
• 5 Oasis Surger x 2
• 5 Starfall x 2
• 6 Hidden Oasis x 1
• 9 Malygos x 1
• 10 King Phaoris x 1

12,200 Dust 1,437 0 Copy Deck Code

Right now there are 2 win cons - Malygos and Chef Nomi - you either shoot your Opponent down using Maly and Moonfires (or swipe) normal or with duplicates or you draw your Deck and try to win with Chef Nomi! If you played Elise at the right time you can Slam Nomi down twice :)

I also thought about including more Heavy Spells and King Phaoris but that seemed way to inconsistent. Well right now the list is not even that consistant. It´s doing decent and so far i'm standing 5-3.

I do not have Cards like Wardruid Loti or Cenarius - that's why they are not in there :)

What do you Guys think? should i focus on only one Win Condition or could this deck work ?

I got it in a card pack but I’m a little conflicted if I should dust it or not. On one hand I don’t really play paladin and since it’s golden I could theoretically get the normal one in a pack as well. On the other hand it’s my first ever golden legendary from a card pack. If I were to dust it however are there any neutral/hunter legendaries I could craft? I don’t want any highlander cards as they are very meta-reliant and I feel would limit me in subsequent expansions. 

For reference I already have: Leeroy Jenkins, Boommaster Flark, Zilliax, Zuljin and Cairne Bloodhoof. 

... 3 weeks from today. Probably about 10:00 AM PST (as usual) I checked the graphic about 8:30 this morning and again at 10:30. At 10:30 it said 3 weeks.

So, it looks like September 27 at 10:00 AM.

I bet we get an announcement today. Just speculation but it would seem right.

Good Hunting!

The time has come! We have extra dust from DE nerfs! What, if any, cards are you going to craft with your nerf dust?

I'm not jumping the gun to craft anything as I'm not desperate for anything in particular. But when I do craft, it will probably be the following just to round off my collection, or give me some fun cards to toy with.

1. Frost Lich Jaina
2. Tess Greymane
3. Undecided, could be any of the following
   1. Brightwing
   2. Yogg-Saron, Hope's End
   3. Aluneth
   4. Armagedillo
   5. Dr. Boom
   6. Face Collector
   7. Old Murk-Eye

For Warlock minions, type {{CCLASS=warlockfriend7829}} any place in the card text

You can thank me later :^)

Question about resolving: when the opponent has Pressure Plate active, how are things supposed to be revolved?

I had a 5/13 taunt and a totem with quest shaman, played a Thunderhead and then [Hearthstone Card (Thunderbolt) Not Found] on his 5/5 dino. Then pressure plate resolved b4 i got my 2 1/1 elementals and thus killing my 5/13. Is this supposed to happen or is it a fluke? I'd like to know so that i won't make the same mistake twice next time as it lost me the game. Thanks! 

We can all more or less agree that  new quests didn't really shake up meta, another thing is whether it was their purpose or they were rather designed for "fun".

Regarding this matter, I want to know your opinion on the possibility of future buffs of quests or maybe they will be buffed indirectly by adding some support cards? If there was some feedback from game devs on this topic feel free to share it, I might have missed it :)

I'm getting sick of smorc, aggro and hunters decks. I go to wild, see (then crush) another boring-ass Odd Paladin.

The Hearthstone Gods decide to bless me with watching someone else for a pack of cards for the daily quest, so yeah, let's take a break and maybe there's something different ...

Friend of mine is using bomb hunter vs. a homebrew control paladin (Lay on Hands seen). I start rooting for the other guy, who rallies back with a buffed Crystalsmith Kangor and has bombtard hunter quit.

Another friend is in hunter vs. hunter and I'm rooting for server crash. Friend somehow loses to secret hunter before he can get his Zul'jin buffed twinspell beast factory up and running. Yawn.

Am I the only one logging in spectator mode and then rooting against the friend? Seriously, do you ever log into a friend's game and then go, "Your deck sucks, I'm rooting for the other guy now."

Time to have some fun!!

Hi everyone! I wasn’t a forum dweller until I ran across the glorious salt thread on Hearthpwn. I know, I know - Hearthstone is a cool game, but the level of RNG and the nature of card games in general can often be a source of frustration, so I needed a place where I could unleash my inner Kripp.

But gradually I started browsing other threads, look for cool deck ideas and even started sharing some ideas of my own. That was until Hearthpwn announced the great shut down. I stopped reading forum threads one week before the supposed closing date as the activity was dwindling.

And what do I accidentally find out a week ago after logging in to Hearthpwn for the first time in months? That it still works! Yay... ? Well, actually no. Judging by activity there and here, I see that the forum community in Hearthstone fell apart. What was the point of this maneuver by Hearthpwn? It was really weird because as I understood, outofcards was supposed to become a replacement for Hearthpwn, but now we have two forums with low activity.

Am I the only one who feels it’s odd?

Imagine Lord of the Rings ending. Frodo (Hearthpwn) looks at Sam (us) and delivers a most heartbreaking good-bye. But like 10 minutes after boarding the ship, he comes down and says, ‘Nah, I’ll stay. But will live in the basement from now on.’

Not cool, Frodo!

came here from flux's signature. seems like some kind of curse insurgency

forum buttons are too big and they should be vertically organized

needs some lighter background colour somewhere

otherwise looks good 👌

Why isn't Zilliax being looked at for a nerf?

I think Hall of Fame was previously created because, among other things, Ragnaros was in nearly every deck, and it "limited design space." Then, they clarified that they only want to do that for Classic cards, not expansion cards.

Zilliax is in every deck, ever. Decks that don't run any mechs still run Zilliax for some heal.

I'm not arguing whether it is OP or not OP, but it's absolutely ubiquitous. Seems problematic when every deck is 29 cards now.

I actually was refining though this week and what I realized is that following 3 cards aren't really good:

Neferset Thrasher - he gave my opponents more lethal then he gave me

Magic Carpet - seems to be just relic of the past and isn't all that good in current meta

Scarab Egg - well those 1/1s are literally not really good not to mention clogging the board.

I actually came up with my own homebrew variant which is somewhat different from lists on hsreplay (by at least 6 cards), I don't claim it to be the most refined, but it is pretty good and carried me to legend. I suppose it has some clanky cards like I'm not so sure about Sea giant, maybe knife juggler would be better in that place, especially now that Mage is getting nerfed. But here is my approach. Any thoughts on best Zoo tech choices?

Lackey zoo warlock, with good cards

Wild · Zoolock · by Trimutius · 6 years, 10 months ago

• 1 Crystallizer x 2
• 1 Flame Imp x 2
• 1 Grim Rally x 2
• 1 Mecharoo x 2
• 1 Sinister Deal x 2
• 1 The Soularium x 1
• 1 Voidwalker x 2
• 2 Dire Wolf Alpha x 2
• 2 EVIL Cable Rat x 2
• 2 EVIL Genius x 2
• 2 Serpent Egg x 2
• 3 EVIL Recruiter x 2
• 3 SN1P-SN4P x 1
• 4 Diseased Vulture x 2
• 5 Dark Pharaoh Tekahn x 1
• 5 Leeroy Jenkins x 1
• 10 Sea Giant x 2

9,640 Dust 7,510 8 Copy Deck Code

test

With the recent nerf patch, here comes an opportunity for anyone who was around One Night in Karazhan era and claimed at least The Prologue, but havent bought the rest of the adventure yet, to jump on a great deal! If you buy first and second wing to get to Barnes, you can "buy" dust with gold at a premium rate at almost half its normal cost this way (compared to avg dust per pack).

If you want a simple explanation, think about it this way, you pay 1400 gold for a legendary (and a half) of your choice. Not a bad deal if you ask me.

Also, if you dont own any part of the adventure yet, the only option to get it is to use real money and buy the entire adventure - and you get an even sweeter deal for it! See calculation below.

Note: You must have reached at least rank 25 in Ranked Play to be able to open the adventure.

1st Wing: The Parlor (620 dust)

• 1x Moroes (400)
• 2x Ivory Knight (40)
• 2x Maelstrom Portal (40)
• 2x Protect the King! (40)
• 2x Silverware Golem (40)
• 2x Arcane Anomaly (10)
• 2x Arcanosmith (10)
• 2x Cloaked Huntress (10)
• 2x Deadly Fork (10)
• 2x Pantry Spider (10)
• 2x [Hearthstone Card (Priest of the Fiest) Not Found] (10)

2nd Wing: The Opera (1940 dust)

• 1x Barnes (1600) <<<
• 2x Arcane Giant (200)
• 2x Moat Lurker (40)
• 2x Onyx Bishop (40)
• 2x Kara Kazham! (10)
• 2x Kindly Grandmother (10)
• 2x Pompous Thespian (10)
• 2x Silvermoon Portal (10)
• 2x Swashburglar (10)
• 2x Wicked Witchdoctor (10)

Calculation

Buy 1st and 2nd wing with gold

• Dust total = 2560
• Cost in gold = 1400
• Avg dust per 100 gold = ~183
• Avg dust per 1 pack (source) = ~100

Buy entire adventure for $20 (equivalent of '15 pack bundle')

• Dust total = 4150 (2950 + 1200)
• Cost in gold = 1500
• Avg dust per 100 gold = ~272
• Avg dust per 1 pack = ~100

And if you decide to keep any of the cards, the dust gain increases that much more. Only downside is, you have to play out the adventure to get the card rewards, but is that really a downside? The adventure is quite good!

edit: After some calculations, if i am right, you can actually get almost three times your money worth of the dust value, if you buy with real money. Damn. Everyone who can should probably buy this lol!

As I'm already a big fan of highlander decks in Wild I'm obviously excited to see new highlander cards being added in this new set. Not sure it will take off in Standard, but in Wild where Reno Jackson, (Kazakus,) and a much bigger pool of cards are there to help you out, it's hard to imagine the archetype will not see play.

That's why I'd like to see all your creative deck ideas!

This is the deck I am going to try first as soon as I got my hands on all the cards:

Secret Heavy Wild Reno Mage

Wild · Reno Mage · by Tumbleweedovski · 6 years, 10 months ago

• 2 Arcane Flakmage x 1
• 2 Arcanologist x 1
• 2 Dirty Rat x 1
• 2 Doomsayer x 1
• 2 Explosive Sheep x 1
• 2 Mad Scientist x 1
• 2 Zephrys the Great x 1
• 3 Brann Bronzebeard x 1
• 3 Duplicate x 1
• 3 Flame Ward x 1
• 3 Frost Nova x 1
• 3 Ice Block x 1
• 3 Potion of Polymorph x 1
• 3 Voodoo Doll x 1
• 4 Arcane Keysmith x 1
• 4 Kazakus x 1
• 4 Polymorph x 1
• 5 Cloud Prince x 1
• 5 Zilliax x 1
• 6 Blizzard x 1
• 6 Meteor x 1
• 6 Reno Jackson x 1
• 6 Reno the Relicologist x 1
• 7 Baron Geddon x 1
• 7 Flamestrike x 1
• 8 Anomalus x 1
• 8 Hex Lord Malacrass x 1
• 8 Ragnaros the Firelord x 1
• 8 Tortollan Pilgrim x 1
• 9 Frost Lich Jaina x 1

20,940 Dust 1,295 0 Copy Deck Code

hee i though the nerfs shoudl hit at 7 pm CET but stil nothing is it even happening today

(Warning! This class is lore-loose, so if something isn't canon don't freak out.)

Dragon Tamers are people that can communicate, befriend and, as you can expect, tame Dragons. Of course, some Dragons (Like Dragon Aspects) are highly intelligent creatures that you can't treat like a pet, however most of them are just animals acting on their instincts. This class has 3 main flavors: tamed Dragons, wild Dragons, and breeding Dragons. Tamed Dragons are mainly used for battle, but also have their uses as guards, observers or transport. Tamers also create tools to immitate Dragons, or protect from them. Wild Dragons are mostly dangerous and are force no mere human can stand against. They have nests and they hunt. Tamers don't tame every Dragon they encounter, they also keep the free ones save and they help them in their time of need.

Prince Mroggus Lore - Prince of Corrupted Dragonflight, one of the last of his people. Selfproclaimed Corrupted Dragonflight was a tribe of creatures who gave up their civilized selfs to N'Zoth, with whom they made a pact. They offered their aid to him in exchange for making them one with the Dragons. Old God agrred and changed their bodies, along with their senses. They were annihilated during Cataclysm, with only few survivors. Prince Mroggus now seeks revenge and wants to rebuild his lost glory.

Hero Power: Due to lack of draw and card generation, I wanted to give this class something to do when it has ran out of resources. (Upgraded HP will come along with TGT)

Basic Set:

PS: Classic is done but I'm lazy so I'm gonna update it later.

There are 2 requests I'd be glad to see, regarding the Cards page:

1 - List the cards as pictures, not as text (or at least include an option to enable this)

2 - If above isn't possible, at least include the card's cost in the grid

Thanks and keep up the great work on this site!!