Guys, how do you think? Is it worth to spend 1400 gold on first two wings so that I can get Barnes and disenchant it next week? Sounds like a deal because 1600 dust is worth more than 1400 gold. But then I get to keep all the rest cards which are worth even more. Maybe I'll also D/E Moroes.

Cheers!

I've been messing around with hunter and came up with an intriguing idea

One of the reasons the class has traditionally gravitated toward aggression is because of the hero power. What if Blizzard introduced a mechanic that changes your hero power at the start of the game? 

We already have cards that upgrade or change your hero power, and we have quite a few. 

What I am thinking is a mechanic similar to Genn or Baku, where if you have X it changes your hero power. For example, a new rogue legendary could have a mechanic that triggers at the start of the game. I know a lot of people despise those cards and how they shaped decks, but those were neutrals. The new hero power could involve some beast synergy or something. 

In case some of you missed it.  We now know of the nerfs that are coming soon

And in it, two of the buffs that were applied were reverted; Extra Arms and Galaxy.

As such it made me look back at the buffs that Blizzard did with Rise of the Mechs.  I had been saying for years that I never wanted cards to be buffed.  When the buffs came I hoped that I was wrong (I was about rotations).  

Now, looking back: I'm fearing that I wasn't wrong.  Again looking at the buffs:

Gloop Sprayer to (7) Mana. (Down from 8): While it was experimented on, it seems to have fallen into meme territory at best.

Mulchmuncher to (9) Mana. (Down from 10): Not even a meme, even after the buff.

Necromechanic to (4) Mana. (Down from 5): Hunter played with it a bit in mech hunter, but that deck doesn't even use the card anymore.

Flark's Boom-Zooka to (7) Mana. (Down from 8):  No

Unexpected Results to (3) Mana. (Down from 4): Still not used in any mage deck

Luna's Pocket Galaxy to (5) Mana. (Down from 7):  Had to be reversed due to overpowering the meta

Crystology to (1) Mana. (Down from 2): The card is broken at 2 mana and the decks that use it used it at 2 mana as well as 1, so it's not really taking a bad card and improving it.  If Paladin ever finds a deck to grab a top tier spot on, this may get nerfed.  

Glowstone Technician to (5) Mana. (Down from 6): I think it's a neat card, but I still miss Troggzor the Earthinator. Consider "I like it" to be a sign of failure.

Extra Arms to (2) Mana. (Down from 3): Had to be reversed

Cloning Device to (1) Mana. (Down from 2): Not currently used anywhere

Pogo-Hopper to (1) Mana. (Down from 2): It did get some play early on, but eventually fell to meme territory

Violet Haze to (2) Mana. (Down from 3): Still unused

The Storm Bringer to (6) Mana. (Down from 7):  I like it.  The world deems it meme.

Thunderhead to 3/6 (Up from 3/5):  The one Shining spot as shaman found a use for him recently.  So we did well here.

Spirit Bomb to (1) Mana. (Down from 2): Still not used

Dr. Morrigan to (6) Mana. (Down from 8): Very laughable

Security Rover to 2/6 stats. (Up from 2/5) & Beryllium Nullifier to 4/8 stats. (Up from 3/8):  I put them together as they share a similar fate:  They are both never put into a deck, but are loved when found via other effects. But they already had that effect beforehand.  And they ended up bolstering a deck that then needed to be nerfed.

So we have:

1 card that actually improved in standing with the buff,

2 cards who weren't trash before the buffs bolstering a deck that needed to be nerfed later

1 card that wasn't trash before and is used as much today and may need a nerf later

3 cards that were played with then dumped into meme status

2 cards that broke the game and had to be reversed

and 9 cards that remained just as trash as before.

For hype and making keeping us engaged with the game, it did a great job.  But we only really  have 3 cards that actually got into the meta in some form and 2 of them for the worse.  Meanwhile it took 3 cards that were already existent in some form and made 1 into a potential big problem and 2 to help support another deck that needed nerfing.  

I'm not sure all of that was worth giving Shaman a more reliable aggro deck.

Note that I'm biased as I already felt that buffing wasn't a great idea, so I do run the risk of confirmation bias.  So I ask the community to weigh in.  Whether you worried over the buffs or spent the past few years yelling at me about why we should be doing it, how has the changes effected you.  Note to not think about how it felt right when it was happening since that's just the hype of 'something new'.  

I mean right now, look at the list of cards, look at what you play and what you fight against, and think about how the buffs effected you, good and bad.  After that, the question: were the buffs a good idea?  

Are there any plans to add a “latest comments” section on the home page? It’s one of the only things I feel is missing from the home page, and I think it would be good to bring attention to new comments posted on different pages (cards, decks, guides etc.) to encourage discussion on those pages. 

Just a thought. I know hearthpwn had this feature, and I always enjoyed seeing what random pages of cards/decks people were having discussions on, and joining in. 

Hey Everyone, just thought I'd come on here and share my rediculous deck. This is a modification of Mech Hunter that has been fantastic for me. I took it from rank 13 to rank 5 with exactly 3 losses. 

I'm really enjoying this brawl so far. I must admit that I got my pack like most players, with a token deck (Even Shaman variation). But after that I tried to make a counter-meta deck and it is doing great for me so far: (6-1 if I counted correctly)

Did anyone do anything really crazy? I have the feeling that some non-obvious combos should exist, but I haven't seen anything spectacular yet.

Some updates have gone out over the past few days, here is our changelog!

I'm sorry these don't come out as frequently as they should. We didn't push out much worth mentioning during the card reveal period and expansion launch. I've also been helping get all our new staff on board, as you've probably noticed with all the great new content we've had on the front page. Love 'em <3

New Features

• You can now "install" Out of Cards onto your Android Phone if you use Chrome.
  • Chrome on android has this cool feature called "Add to Home screen". We now have meta data that tells this how to act and will show our derpcorn icon should you choose to add the site to your home screen. It is easy, one-tap access to the site!
• Content authors on news posts now have bios!
  • They'll display at the bottom of posts if an author has written one. Learn more about all of us =)
• Deck Collection BBCode
  • We've got a new bbcode you can use to promote your decks. "hsdeckcollection" is the tag name and it accepts a comma-separated list of deck ids.
  • Example usage:
• Card BBCode can now use custom names!
  • By using the new, optional text argument, you can now give your memes card tooltips and styling.
  • 4 Mana 7/7
  • Rag
  • Frosty Making Jokes
  • Flux's Fav
  • Inside your card tag all you need to do is use text="my replacement name" such as text="4 Mana 7/7"
  • 

Changes

• Speed improvements to the homepage.
  • We've got better caching on the homepage now which have increased the page load speed by almost double!
• Deck Embeds now display class icons in the in their headers and have footers with votes, dust cost, comments, views meta data.
• Card and deck listings now have pretty headers when a single class is selected.
• Card and deck listings now have pretty urls when a single class is selected.
• Desktop users no longer have sticky navigation.
  • Dev Note: Feedback was mixed on this but ultimately it was decided to remove the sticky nav for desktop users as it sometimes created more problems then it solved.
• Achievement points now display on your comments and forum posts.

Bug Fixes

• When you have a class selected on the decks listing, the archetypes box will now populate with only that class (requires a page reload)
• Archetypes now sort by class and then alphabetical by default across the site.
• When you earn a new forum title, your old one will now still say selected.
• Fixed the default font in the editor from displaying as Arial. Open Sans is the way forward!
• When sending someone a direct message, you will no longer have it appear as unread for yourself.

I have a quest that reads "win a game with hunter or mage" for 50 gold, then I have another quest that reads "win two games as priest" for 50 gold. This doesn't make any sense. With the second quest I have to win twice as many games, and I get less options for what class I can play, but the gold reward is the same. Does this seem weird to anyone else? And why would blizzard make their quests like this? 

At the early point of each expansion, I want to try so many new decks, but I always end up going through the same routine:

1. Spend a while creating a new deck
2. Queue on ladder; get annihilated by an aggro deck
3. Queue on ladder; get slowly murdered by a control deck over 20 minutes
4. Rage-delete deck
5. Cycle 1-4 ad infinitum

Now, all usual responses aside (git gud etc.), I'd like to know how long other players stick with a deck before they decide to refine it or just make an entirely new one. Especially at the early stages of an expansion cycle.

In short, gimme your tips on how to stay focused on one deck. Cheers!

A new Legendary Hunter Minion, Dinotamer Brann, has been revealed!

Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating!

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That got me wins easily. 

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GL

After much difficulty, I managed to use Amazon coins to buy card packs and get a 15-20% discount from buying it bulk. 

I still have quite a lot of amazon coins and my intention was to buy slowly as the new card pack offers from Blizzard came out. 

But it seems the amazon coins can only be used to buy the in game card packs, not the card pack offers from the Blizzard shop directly (i.e. it seems I cannot use my amazon coins to buy from Blizzard shop)

Is my understanding correct?

If so, is there anyway I can still utilise my existing amazon coins for any new card pack offers from Blizzard store directly?

I am loathe to charge money to my credit card again when I have quite a lot of unused amazon coins lying around in my amazon account.

Please advise me step by step.

On a separate note, because I did not start Hearthstone since its inception, I wanted to buy back one of the old adventures. (blackrock mountain) --I still do not have my Ragnaros and I am getting pelted everytime in Hearthstone by the fire god.

I realised I cannot use amazon coins to buy the old adventures too because they are found exclusively in Blizzard store? Is my understanding correct? Please also advise. Thanks a lot.

Eye-catching how much dust it costs compared to say The Witchwood era. He should have gone back to a League of Explorers-era meta though, as highlander decks have been reintroduced into standard and effective singletons tend not to use the cheap stuff. But ... were the original Reno Jackson decks cheaper than today's Reno-using Mage?

Also, take note that the argument of "make aggro decks because they're cheap" is falling flat, according to the numbers.

Old Guardian is a decent HS streamer on YouTube to check out for those learning the game, looking for deck ideas or how-tos on using popular decks. (Also has a unique voice, he should be cast as a magicka-using Nord quest giver in The Elder Scrolls games.)

Bloke says he's going to promote budget decks soon, btw. Good on him.

EDIT: Apparently Wild Pyromancer reads 'cast', whereasUnseen Saboteur reads 'play'. Personally, I never thought there was a differnce

#NOTASALTTHREAD (I won)

I was playing a tweaked Control Shaman against the new fashion style priest (Heal/OTK etc).

I played Unseen Saboteur against him, when he had a 3/1 Wild Pyromancer in play.

Notea that the former says that you force YOUR OPPPONENT to play a spell, whereas WP says 'After YOU PLAY' a spell (...)

I know that this interaction is 1) rather rare 2) as intended (I assume)

BUT:

The wording is not correctly reflecting the outcome and if I'd been a new player I would be confused. So please change, I guess? XD

The graphic on the Tombs of Terror "Coming Soon" sign says that it will release in 5 weeks! What do y'all hope the solo content will be like this time? Personally, I think it'd be really cool if you opened packs that were only valid for that specific Dungeon Run, and were able to take out and add cards as you please! The "card packs" would obviously only feature specific cards that would usually be in buckets on three in the other Solo Content modes. I remember hearing somewhere that they were going to mix things up a little with this one, so maybe they'll do something crazy like this!

Hello all,

As the title states I was wondering if anyone has had any luck with unlocking Arthas (Beating the Lich King with every class), using  the Uldum standard set. I started playing again this year, last time was during season 1-3, so I have literally zero wild cards and don’t waste dust if I don’t have to. 

I have tried google and the real only advice I have seen is to try murlocs or the below. Which idk what the decks would fully look like, besides a pogo rogue.

Priest (Dragons + Inner Fire)

Hunter (Spell Hunter + Mossy Horror)
Paladin (Young Dragonhawk + buff + Secrets + small taunts)
Rogue (Pogo)
Druid (Jade)
Shaman (Eggs)
Warrior, Warlock and Mage (Alarm-o-Bot + big taunts/minions)

Any any advice would be much appreciated. 

I think you should consider deleting the salt thread; fresh start and all that.

I'm optimistic that humanity has evolved and it's not really needed anymore.

for reference: Shieldbreaker most people's opinion about the card back in rastakan that the card is great, but aggro plays Prince Keleseth.

them is essentially old owl in the current meta most minions you want to silence are taunts, and warrior now runs the taunt package which means their taunts are buffed also every deck runs Zilliax.

do you think them is worth inclusion in zoo/aggro warrior/murloc pally?

two things I think are not present on the UI

some threads are very long (the 80 quest trading and salt thread for example) with no way to skip to the last page or even second to last page, the >> and  << arrows are missing or just a way to navigate to a specific page.

The other thing that is missing is a subscribe/unsubscribe to threads feature specially the unsubscribe to threads you open..

I hope that tag line got your attention to open this thread.  I am wanted to see what other players feel about a sentiment that I have regarding Casual play vs Ranked.  I am very much a casual player, I think the highest rank I've ever attained was 7.  With that in mind, whenever a new set is released, there are a number of cards that I would love to try, but I do not want to commit to crafting.  Thus the title of this thread....

WOULDN'T IT BE NICE IF... there was an option to be able to theory craft a card and play it in a deck to try it out and see if you want to craft the real thing.  Something like... TheoryCraft this card for 100 dust and it is good for 10 games.  After that, it disappears and you either say, "Well, that sucked.  Guess I'll try something else." or, "I am totally going to craft that Golden!"

What do you all think of this idea, or what WOULDN'T IT BE NICE IF... ideas do you have?

I love the unique lore and art style of Draenor from WoD and think it should be in Hearthstone more. With this in mind, I've come up with a few ideas that still need to be fully fleshed out, but revolve around, not the orcs or ogres, but the first inhabitants of this savage world, the Primal Powers: Breakers, Primals, and Arakkoa. A large part of this idea revolves around "building" very powerful minions that each represent a being so powerful that giving it a Legendary almost wouldn't do it justice. I should also note that it is very hard for me to find good art of most of this stuff, so please forgive the low-quality right now. This is all prototype at the moment.

The new keyword "Absorb", which is currently defined as this:

The set works in a tri-class system similar to Mean Streets, but with different class combos. 

Breakers are Warrior, Shaman, and Mage. Their system revolves around combining smaller breakers into their largest versions to eventually re-create Grond in a reverse of their evolution. Only the first two levels are playable as cards. The others must be built.

Warrior Cards:

Mage Cards:

No Shaman cards yet

The Primals are cards I have yet to create, or even fully decide on how they work. They consist of Druid, Warlock, and Hunter, and will focus on "infecting" and absorbing other minions to grow larger and can eventually be combined into the Sporemounds.

The Arakkoa are Paladins, Priests, and Rogues and work with Apexis Crystals. These crystals would have various ways to be generated and then upgraded as either light, shadow, or death to represent each of the gods of Arak. Once enough upgrade crystals are played, the a random god can be summoned with the right card. This system is also still in very early stages of conceptualization. Also, Ritual Master isn't finished and is, in fact, meant as a playable card.

Pally cards:

No Priest or Rogue cards yet exist.

Neutral:

That's all I have right now. If you have any ideas or feedback on anything from card concepts to where I can find better art, please let me know. I'd love some help on this casual little project. 

Anyone try anything like this?

Curious if this will be any good.

So far 3-0 (granted in Casual to test).

Beaten quest hunter, aggro rogue, and some kind of mage (not sure if highlander or big spell) so maybe it can be decent?

### Malygos
# Class: Hunter
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Dragon
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# 1x (1) Arcane Shot
# 1x (1) Rapid Fire
# 1x (1) Secret Plan
# 1x (1) Shimmerfly
# 1x (1) Springpaw
# 1x (1) Tracking
# 1x (2) Bomb Toss
# 1x (2) Explosive Trap
# 1x (2) Freezing Trap
# 1x (2) Hunter's Mark
# 1x (2) Pressure Plate
# 1x (2) Rat Trap
# 1x (2) Snipe
# 1x (2) Zephrys the Great
# 1x (3) Animal Companion
# 1x (3) Deadly Shot
# 1x (3) Eaglehorn Bow
# 1x (3) Kill Command
# 1x (3) Unleash the Hounds
# 1x (4) Marked Shot
# 1x (5) Baited Arrow
# 1x (5) Zilliax
# 1x (6) Unleash the Beast
# 1x (7) Dinotamer Brann
# 1x (7) Siamat
# 1x (7) Vereesa Windrunner
# 1x (8) Jepetto Joybuzz
# 1x (9) Alexstrasza
# 1x (9) Malygos
# 1x (10) Zul'jin
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# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone

Hey guys

late last night I was messing around with some a wild warlock when I stumbled across the dread steer + defile interaction. I know dreadsteed was changed but I found some videos pre-nerf

anyway, I got the idea to try a knife juggler + necrotic geist OTK in wild after seeing Hysteria’s video. 

So, the combo is as follows: Summoning Portal, Knife Juggler, Necrotic Geist, 2x Deathspeaker, Defile, Summoning Portal Tuskarr Fisherman. As long as you get 4-5 discounted it’s fine.

Here’s  link to both the Hysteria video to see the combo and the wiki. (Under notes in wiki)

https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Summoning_Portal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0II_uz5UwAc&feature=share

You drop Emperor hoping to discount the deathspeakers, defile, and Geist. The combo takes advantage of the discount from Emperor while also getting a 2 mana Summoning Portal discount. According to the HS wiki, and is consistent with Hysteria’s video, this combination can produce 0 cost minions, as the Summoning Portal effect is applied first and then the Emperor one. Basically, you’ll be playing the 2 and 3 mana pieces for free....or so I thought. You drop the portal, geist, then juggler. After that, you give immunity to both juggler and geist, and apply +1 spell power to either. Casting defile after this creates a loop with Necrotic Geists effect that will kill your opponent no question. Although defile can cast only 14 times, it’s way more than enough for the number of knives being shot. 

I’ve set this up three times and Summoning Portal will not make the minions cost 0 even with the Emperor combination. If you read the wiki and watch the video, you’ll see that the minions cost 0. I watched the video a few times now, and I don’t see any other way he could’ve gotten 0 cost minions. Looking at his discounts, he only managed to get a single tick. Each time I set this combo up, none of the minions will cost 0. I know Summoning Portal is supposed to keep minion cost at 1, but the wiki states that when used with Emperor, the minions will cost 0 if they cost 3. Again, this is what happens in Hysteria’s combo, but for some reason my minions aren’t behaving this way. 

I can’t find any evidence that the way these card interactions has changed or been patched. The only thing I can think of it is that blizzard silently changed it to prevent another OTK. 

Has there been any announcement what the plan for the single player content for SoU will be?  I haven't seen any announcement and wanted to know if I should start hording gold now if it's going to be similar to Dalaran Heist.