Bump of my previous cards (which people seem very divided about) and a new idea.
Also, I'm kinda surprised to see that several people seemed to think the first version doesn't fit Priest, since copying stuff has always been their thing. I mean, it's a weapon, but that's why it's also part Paladin...
You should make it priest/warrior there's precedent for a class mechanic just to be given to warrior just because it's on a weapon ala Ceremonial Maul
I never post in here because i'm generally REALLY unlucky and most of my games belong in the other thread, but i just played a game where i completly MEMED on my opponent.
Okay, i load in and i see my opponent is a shaman, i do what i always do when i'm facing someone that isn't priest, mulligan for agro.
I don't get the perfect hand but it comes close, a Master's Call to tutor Maxima Blastenheimer, a Wandering Monster to hopefully stall for a turn or summon something that helps me on board, and a quick shot to sniper a totem for him to buff or do some other dumb shit with.
He plays Murloc Tidecaller and buffs it with Rockpool Hunter and i'm wondering if i didn't accidentally queue into battlegrounds and hits my face with the 3/3 tidecaller, i get [Hearthstone Card (fiece monkey) Not Found] not the best but a pretty good three drop that still survives after his minion dies, and it has taunt. Pretty good luck for me i thought, i hadn't seen nothing yet.
Turn 4 i tutor the maxima with master's call for next turn for me to coin out. When i do, he has three minions a wrath of air totem, a Flametongue Totem, and a searing totem. I get my unluckiest pull against aggro Sylvanas Windrunner, but i fortunately steal the Flametongue Totem after this i decide, i want to test how good my luck is this game against my opponent. Facing someone with worse luck than me is a rare occasion. With 4 cards in hand he plays Murloc Tastyfin and i trade my now 6/4 minion into his 1/1 searing totem and i play Nine Lives winning a one in three again(this time dodging the wrath of air and a healing totem he just tapped into) to steal the tastyfin.
Next turn he plays Grimscale Oracle into Primalfin Lookout into Coldlight Seer after double checking i'm not in battlegrouds again in decide to keep rolling the dice while i'm on a hotstreak. i trade my minion with 6 attack into a minion with 1 attack again and send my tastyfin into his coldlight seer, and play Sylvanas WindrunnerPlay Dead and i steal the 3/4 primalfin lookout and my opponent concedes after after getting just COMPLETELY OUTSKILLED by a superior opponent.
I'll wait it out and see how it goes. but making the levels 20% better sounds like an executive move
"They make the system originally, some exec says "Looks good but make the xp 50% grindier to get" They do it, people complain, the team shows the exec they say "Ehh, make it 20% better, they'll stop""
Sorry i'm not supposed to complain about this obvious ploy that corporations use because POTENTIALLY i will receive more gold?
It will still take about 4-5 quests to receive a level up to receive gold, wheras before you would get twice as much for half as many quests.
if blizzard came out and said they released a deadly disease as a plague on humanity, claimed they did it on accident and then released a vaccine for that plague people would forgive them too.
People talk about the "We're sorry" clip from south park:
but they don't remember what it was about. BP knew they disaster could happen they knew there was a chance for it, but they kept going anyway. This is the battlepass(in a less destructive manner) How many controversies does activision blizzard need for people to realize they're not "accidentally" screwing their playerbase over.
I am not "quitting the game", it's still fun to me, despite the meta being pure aggro forever, this isn't a reddit report. You people and your goat analogy. It would be a much better analogy if it was a different kind of grazing animal, because the community is full of sheep.
Bliz makes a slight change and people are kissing their feet again. I'll wait it out and see how it goes. but making the levels 20% better sounds like an executive move
"They make the system originally, some exec says "Looks good but make the xp 50% grindier to get" They do it, people complain, the team shows the exec they say "Ehh, make it 20% better, they'll stop""
I have never faced against a highlander priest in about 200 games of wild ladder, not one, and that's up to gold 5, the majority of what i face is rez priest and demon hunter. It must be a euro thing because i never see it. Never see a control warrior either, which everyone also says is everywhere and OP
Now i haven't played gonk druid in maybe a month, i've been playing warrior, or hunter, or warlock so when i went in to play this old deck i forgot i was still testing around cards and trying out a new deck.
The game started out really well, i have all the removal i needed against the demon hunter i was able to coin out Oaken Summons into Oaken Summons without drawing my patches and i was even able to easily reduce the cost of my gonk with Dreampetal Florist. It wasn't until about halfway through right about this point, that i noticed in my deck tracker. I didn't have Faceless Manipulator, Shan'do Wildclaw, or even Germination to copy my gonk and actually win the game, i didn't run sidequest for more damage if i needed it. I had no way to win the game. Everything i did this game, did not matter. But i kept playing. I kept playing against an opponent playing a class that did not deserve my time. Because the game had been fun to me up to that point. That's hearthstone to me. After the game i laughed to myself as i changed the deck to actually have a win condition. But it was still fun going in knowing i would lose.
Nailed it. Any crazy meme or any ex-meta one you miss playing. The borrow deck feature is often overlooked. It's also great because if you are not a whale (someone with almost all cards) like me you can post the deck here, I'll copy it and away we go.
Sure sounds like a good thing to try and i wonder how good my deck would be in a mirror since i never face anyone else playing the architype, but do you play on america
Everyone was afk but me and bigglesworth, but bigglesworth crashed it seems and then it was just me. i sold everything and went for the epic shifter combo, but they don't merge apparently didn't know that.
Blizzard has been moving in a direction where they only care about whales. Only they are allowed to have fun. All other player demographics must suck it up and play 1-2 decks for scraps of rewards. Any steps forward in easing the problem like duplicate protection has been followed by opposite actions. The progression system rework solved nothing, only obfuscated the reward process and introduced another money sink for whales.
I disagree, we've gotten two new game modes within a year that don't absolutely require money or gold to play. Are there perks to spending money/gold for those modes? Absolutely. Are they required? Not really.
If you want to be remotely competitive, then Yes.
Genuine question: Why even try to be competitive in Hearthstone?
For Standard ladder I can kind of sympathize with those budget players who are really putting in the effort by finished in high Legend at the end of each month and attending tournaments/events. From my perspective, unless playing Hearthstone is a full time job, why are some players so adamant about being competitive?
I'd totally understand if they got invited to Blizzard tournaments/events but they just don't, not to any fault of their own of course. While Blizzard keeps hosting events that only streamers and influencers ever really get to participate in. I'm sure you see where I'm going with this, it just makes me scratch my head when a player states that they're "competitive" but aren't really trying to get into the pro scene.
Maybe we have differing definitions of what competitive means.
Because if you hadn't noticed yet with the "win 7 games in ranked" quest, being competitive is one of the only ways to get gold in this game without spending money. Saying "Why do people play competitive" is like saying "Why don't people just spend money to have the cards they need" Arena, you need to tryhard to make decent profit in the game mode, keeping up with stats and what minions are good after each rotation. Duels, you need the dust required(or have bought the expansions) in wild to have even a snowball's chance at winning games early against anyone else who is netdecking what some streamer said was good. "Why do people play competitive?" To have cards in this game.
I logged onto hearthstone an hour ago to do the tavern brawl, played it six times. 5 demon hunter opponents all curving out on me kicking my ass with deathrattles like Waxadred, Cairne Bloodhoof, Sylvanas Windrunner, Astromancer Solarian and Mechanical Whelp meanwhile i get Mindflayer Kaahrj and Murloc Tastyfin multiple times a game and no that's not a joke or overexaggeration it literally happened. I should have just got my one win and not played anymore. What a game where demon hunter is even busted in tavern brawl. And by the way they always have Consume Magic in their deck. So don't even bother even if you get a good deathrattle for once.
I have played this game since beta, only spending $20 on it, and playing it casually. I don't care about grinding ladder, i care about having fun. And to me fun isn't winning. It's enjoyable to win, and it sucks losing, but i don't play the game just to win. It's about how i win.
People say all the time that hearthstone is a cheap game, you don't need to have a big collection or several legendaries to play it. And they're right. If you like playing aggro. If you don't the game is VERY difficult to get into, and stay into. Look up any deck that isn't braindead face aggro where you just play cards on curve and ignore their side of the board until you win and you'll find the list has at least 4 legendaries. Before the system was good. Expansions would come out with PvE where you could get cards for completing it, or if you didn't care about the PvE and had a large enough dust collection you could just craft the cards you wanted. This has changed. More legendaries every expansion, doubled with releasing cards that are ESSENTIAL in many decks that you HAVE to pay to unlock that you can't craft, like Risky Skipper. A rare card that would be very easy to craft for just 100 dust. But you can't. Because it is arbitrarily locked behind a paywall/grindwall. A wall that with the release of the battlepass just got higher.
The way you phrase people hating the game makes no sense to me. Maybe it's because you don't understand. When people say they hate the game and are uninstalling. They don't mean the game. They mean what the game has become. They had fond memories of it and aren't liking what activision blizzard is turning it into. I've quit the game in the past, when rise of shadows came out it was clear what the meta would be like for a long time and that was endless lackey spam and aggro, and so it has been since. When i came back recently i resigned myself to only play wild since that's where people like me that don't enjoy playing cards just because they're green in my hand are pidgeon holed to go. Because you can't play control in standard anymore. Have you tried? But enough with my tangent.
Solem said it best in his video he made in november.
"Hearthstone is not pay to win. It is pay to have fun"
Which i 100% agree with. People that joined in ashes of outland climbed both standard and wild ladder just with the initiate demon hunter cards with no neutrals. 100% for free. By going face and not caring about the board because that's the classes "class identity" They didn't have to pay a dime to do it. There are still people doing it today in wild, playing demon hunter class cards and no neutrals and winning. But to get back to my point.
I like the dungeon runs, i like the PvE, but it is no replacement for playing with a deck i make myself. You can't play gonk druid in dungeon run. If you pick the bucket with gonk in it, congrats you'll have gonk in your deck, but you will lose your next game and not even get to play gonk let alone gonk an opponent. This is not a replacement for deckbuilding.
I tried it for about 4 hours today and i barely got 200 xp, maybe it was good when the system first came out and i heard rumbling of a stealth nerf to it.
This is much lower than what I've seen on reddit, where the average xp/min is around 4.5 (including this analysis from a couple of weeks ago). Perhaps you're right, and there was a server-side patch to the system, but if you could, I think it would be useful to provide more info about how you implemented the strategy (e.g. how long do you think you were in queue, did you consistently queue up right after each match or was there some delay, etc.).
Depending on how you're implementing it, it's very possible that your four hours spent doing this AFK strategy translated to much less time in games than a bot doing the same thing would have had.
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You getting only a mere 200xp for 4 hours is testament to them willing and having spent every ounce of muscle to stop easy xp from rolling in.
Is it really so bad that they want to limit people AFKing the game for XP? It makes for a more worse player experience if your opponents are regularly just roping/doing nothing. That negative impact is certainly diminished in battlegrounds (because you have six other opponents), but if everyone who AFKs ends up with a low MMR, it also creates two pretty bad results: 1) it means anyone trying out BG for the first time may be stuck with lots of AFK opponents at very low MMRs, and 2) it means the potential of wasting the cost of running servers on games populated mostly by AFK BG lobbies.
The game ought to reward you for playing the game rather than merely spending time in the game. There's room for improvement to how players gain XP, and the issues around queue times, etc., that make it hard for players to get the full value of an hour spent honestly playing the game. But despite that, I think it's entirely appropriate for them to try to prevent people from manipulating XP systems, because no matter how generous they are to players who are seriously playing the game, people will try to manipulate the reward system with bots, etc.
If a system is bad and built around exploiting you, you should be able to do the same to it without a guilty conscience. It literally gave me nothing doing this, i only did it because i was close to leveling up an didn't want to play any more games because i was busy with something else. I had already done my three quests i had and it didn't even give me a level up. The system is a joke. I think everyone should afk BGs, because "don't you guys have phones?" The small indie company that is ACTIVISION BLIZZARD can afford to pay for servers....Get in as much experience as you can before they cap it to to 1k experience a day and screw us even harder.
First attempt and it works pretty well. Don't craft shit for tavern brawls but if you have the cards i recommend giving it a try
I dont even think they said it wouldnt even be a PvE where you have to pay money for it and have cards you cant craft like gala awakening
You should make it priest/warrior there's precedent for a class mechanic just to be given to warrior just because it's on a weapon ala Ceremonial Maul
I never post in here because i'm generally REALLY unlucky and most of my games belong in the other thread, but i just played a game where i completly MEMED on my opponent.
https://hsreplay.net/replay/uRkraQ6AFCaLzTpVMNAjd2
Okay, i load in and i see my opponent is a shaman, i do what i always do when i'm facing someone that isn't priest, mulligan for agro.
I don't get the perfect hand but it comes close, a Master's Call to tutor Maxima Blastenheimer, a Wandering Monster to hopefully stall for a turn or summon something that helps me on board, and a quick shot to sniper a totem for him to buff or do some other dumb shit with.
He plays Murloc Tidecaller and buffs it with Rockpool Hunter and i'm wondering if i didn't accidentally queue into battlegrounds and hits my face with the 3/3 tidecaller, i get [Hearthstone Card (fiece monkey) Not Found] not the best but a pretty good three drop that still survives after his minion dies, and it has taunt. Pretty good luck for me i thought, i hadn't seen nothing yet.
Turn 4 i tutor the maxima with master's call for next turn for me to coin out. When i do, he has three minions a wrath of air totem, a Flametongue Totem, and a searing totem. I get my unluckiest pull against aggro Sylvanas Windrunner, but i fortunately steal the Flametongue Totem after this i decide, i want to test how good my luck is this game against my opponent. Facing someone with worse luck than me is a rare occasion. With 4 cards in hand he plays Murloc Tastyfin and i trade my now 6/4 minion into his 1/1 searing totem and i play Nine Lives winning a one in three again(this time dodging the wrath of air and a healing totem he just tapped into) to steal the tastyfin.
Next turn he plays Grimscale Oracle into Primalfin Lookout into Coldlight Seer after double checking i'm not in battlegrouds again in decide to keep rolling the dice while i'm on a hotstreak. i trade my minion with 6 attack into a minion with 1 attack again and send my tastyfin into his coldlight seer, and play Sylvanas Windrunner Play Dead and i steal the 3/4 primalfin lookout and my opponent concedes after after getting just COMPLETELY OUTSKILLED by a superior opponent.
I'll wait it out and see how it goes. but making the levels 20% better sounds like an executive move
"They make the system originally, some exec says "Looks good but make the xp 50% grindier to get" They do it, people complain, the team shows the exec they say "Ehh, make it 20% better, they'll stop""
Sorry i'm not supposed to complain about this obvious ploy that corporations use because POTENTIALLY i will receive more gold?
It will still take about 4-5 quests to receive a level up to receive gold, wheras before you would get twice as much for half as many quests.
if blizzard came out and said they released a deadly disease as a plague on humanity, claimed they did it on accident and then released a vaccine for that plague people would forgive them too.
People talk about the "We're sorry" clip from south park:
but they don't remember what it was about. BP knew they disaster could happen they knew there was a chance for it, but they kept going anyway. This is the battlepass(in a less destructive manner) How many controversies does activision blizzard need for people to realize they're not "accidentally" screwing their playerbase over.
I am not "quitting the game", it's still fun to me, despite the meta being pure aggro forever, this isn't a reddit report. You people and your goat analogy. It would be a much better analogy if it was a different kind of grazing animal, because the community is full of sheep.
I mean it says one time.
Do you need to say "this turn" on the card when launch only happens once?
Bliz makes a slight change and people are kissing their feet again. I'll wait it out and see how it goes. but making the levels 20% better sounds like an executive move
"They make the system originally, some exec says "Looks good but make the xp 50% grindier to get" They do it, people complain, the team shows the exec they say "Ehh, make it 20% better, they'll stop""
I have never faced against a highlander priest in about 200 games of wild ladder, not one, and that's up to gold 5, the majority of what i face is rez priest and demon hunter. It must be a euro thing because i never see it. Never see a control warrior either, which everyone also says is everywhere and OP
To counter the "losing isn't fun" narrative here is a gonk druid game i played yesterday
https://hsreplay.net/replay/FXebKMUyZUwU2ApVNohXUD
Now i haven't played gonk druid in maybe a month, i've been playing warrior, or hunter, or warlock so when i went in to play this old deck i forgot i was still testing around cards and trying out a new deck.
The game started out really well, i have all the removal i needed against the demon hunter i was able to coin out Oaken Summons into Oaken Summons without drawing my patches and i was even able to easily reduce the cost of my gonk with Dreampetal Florist. It wasn't until about halfway through right about this point, that i noticed in my deck tracker. I didn't have Faceless Manipulator, Shan'do Wildclaw, or even Germination to copy my gonk and actually win the game, i didn't run sidequest for more damage if i needed it. I had no way to win the game. Everything i did this game, did not matter. But i kept playing. I kept playing against an opponent playing a class that did not deserve my time. Because the game had been fun to me up to that point. That's hearthstone to me. After the game i laughed to myself as i changed the deck to actually have a win condition. But it was still fun going in knowing i would lose.
Sure sounds like a good thing to try and i wonder how good my deck would be in a mirror since i never face anyone else playing the architype, but do you play on america
So what is this about? The two of us take turns picking a deck and playing against each other?
seems that way, and they don't even combine when you get a triple off the shift either
Everyone was afk but me and bigglesworth, but bigglesworth crashed it seems and then it was just me. i sold everything and went for the epic shifter combo, but they don't merge apparently didn't know that.
Because if you hadn't noticed yet with the "win 7 games in ranked" quest, being competitive is one of the only ways to get gold in this game without spending money. Saying "Why do people play competitive" is like saying "Why don't people just spend money to have the cards they need" Arena, you need to tryhard to make decent profit in the game mode, keeping up with stats and what minions are good after each rotation. Duels, you need the dust required(or have bought the expansions) in wild to have even a snowball's chance at winning games early against anyone else who is netdecking what some streamer said was good. "Why do people play competitive?" To have cards in this game.
https://outof.cards/hearthstone/cards/8365-risky-skipper
I logged onto hearthstone an hour ago to do the tavern brawl, played it six times. 5 demon hunter opponents all curving out on me kicking my ass with deathrattles like Waxadred, Cairne Bloodhoof, Sylvanas Windrunner, Astromancer Solarian and Mechanical Whelp meanwhile i get Mindflayer Kaahrj and Murloc Tastyfin multiple times a game and no that's not a joke or overexaggeration it literally happened. I should have just got my one win and not played anymore. What a game where demon hunter is even busted in tavern brawl. And by the way they always have Consume Magic in their deck. So don't even bother even if you get a good deathrattle for once.
I have played this game since beta, only spending $20 on it, and playing it casually. I don't care about grinding ladder, i care about having fun. And to me fun isn't winning. It's enjoyable to win, and it sucks losing, but i don't play the game just to win. It's about how i win.
People say all the time that hearthstone is a cheap game, you don't need to have a big collection or several legendaries to play it. And they're right. If you like playing aggro. If you don't the game is VERY difficult to get into, and stay into. Look up any deck that isn't braindead face aggro where you just play cards on curve and ignore their side of the board until you win and you'll find the list has at least 4 legendaries. Before the system was good. Expansions would come out with PvE where you could get cards for completing it, or if you didn't care about the PvE and had a large enough dust collection you could just craft the cards you wanted. This has changed. More legendaries every expansion, doubled with releasing cards that are ESSENTIAL in many decks that you HAVE to pay to unlock that you can't craft, like Risky Skipper. A rare card that would be very easy to craft for just 100 dust. But you can't. Because it is arbitrarily locked behind a paywall/grindwall. A wall that with the release of the battlepass just got higher.
The way you phrase people hating the game makes no sense to me. Maybe it's because you don't understand. When people say they hate the game and are uninstalling. They don't mean the game. They mean what the game has become. They had fond memories of it and aren't liking what activision blizzard is turning it into. I've quit the game in the past, when rise of shadows came out it was clear what the meta would be like for a long time and that was endless lackey spam and aggro, and so it has been since. When i came back recently i resigned myself to only play wild since that's where people like me that don't enjoy playing cards just because they're green in my hand are pidgeon holed to go. Because you can't play control in standard anymore. Have you tried? But enough with my tangent.
Solem said it best in his video he made in november.
If a system is bad and built around exploiting you, you should be able to do the same to it without a guilty conscience. It literally gave me nothing doing this, i only did it because i was close to leveling up an didn't want to play any more games because i was busy with something else. I had already done my three quests i had and it didn't even give me a level up. The system is a joke. I think everyone should afk BGs, because "don't you guys have phones?" The small indie company that is ACTIVISION BLIZZARD can afford to pay for servers....Get in as much experience as you can before they cap it to to 1k experience a day and screw us even harder.