This was done to make sure that we don't have any old assets cached anywhere.
Members may experience slightly longer load times when they first visit pages due to static assets needing to be cached locally, though this is not likely to be disruptive to the end-user experience.
Hearthstone
Added Death Knight Icons across the site.
Added March of the Lich King Icons across the site.
Updated Navigation for new expansion.
Expansion pages will no longer display classes if no cards have been revealed for that class.
The exception to this new rule is if we have "placeholder cards" which we haven't used in a while due to significant bulk early in a reveal season that doesn't add much to the guides themselves.
Bug Fixes
General
Fixed an issue where some RSS feeds on the site were returning 500 errors.
Our Discord bot is back up and running and is correctly giving out roles again.
Hearthstone
Fixed an issue with card reveal notifications not going out on Discord.
There was a catch-up period where old notifications went out late. Shouldn't happen again.
Watching Twitter fall apart since Musk took over is hilarious. 44 Billion for a site that'll be worth a tenth of that in 5 years. It's Yahoo and Tumblr all over again.
The only reason I call it misinformation is because we are in a card reveal season. They really should consider their card reveal season sacred and with Blizzard having poor communication, it is my belief they deserve to be scolded for it. The only way they learn is if people are willing to talk about it.
There were so many different ways they could have gone about promoting the fact that card reveals were starting today. They could have showcased a piece of art and asked people what their favourite cards revealed so far are. Or, if they really wanted to dive back into Knights of the Frozen Throne's adventure, they could have easily done a "Card reveals are starting today, and we'd love to see Death Knights pull x from the past. What cards are you hoping DK gets?" which would have let them be silly (100 Armor, lol) but also encouraging people to talk about the new set and what they want to see.
I generally believe that people should do their own research before doing anything. But, I know that I'm definitely not in the majority when it comes to this line of thinking. Because of this, I do think companies should keep their communications factual as much as possible.
That's the fun thing about everything in life though.
George Carlin put it best. "Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that."
Everyone has a different frame of reference. Folks that are most hardcore about Hearthstone don't really see the game in any other light. "Oh but people will know x y z", except they don't. This is something I've had trouble communicating to our writers about over the years because it isn't something people remember about. Creating content has to be done in an accessible manner. Sometimes it is worth pointing out "obvious" things because although we may think they are obvious, they really aren't Learning how to think like other players is super important.
I honestly don't believe Blizzard puts a lot of thought into their social campaigns. I also believe they are very bad at promoting their stuff and this certainly didn't help their case.
Deficiency? No, everything here is working as intended. We don't have a collectible version of Frostmourne in the database yet so it isn't going to show up via BBCode. BBCode prefers the collectible version and then it'll default to whatever is highest cost, followed by the oldest id in the database.
You have to understand that there are very different audiences in games.
First, you have your ultra hardcore players that are dialed in to the point where they don't miss a thing, they know everything there is to know about the game, and they are ultimately super passionate even when they stop playing.
Then you have your casual player who goes "oh I love game" and they login to play for a few days when new content comes out and then maybe randomly a few more times before another set, and that's that.
Misinformation like this doesn't harm the first kind of player, but it harms the second.
Imagine a scenario where a second player sees that tweet, thinks Death Knight is super overpowered. There is a chance they buy products based on what they see. A product that Blizzard ultimately will refuse to refund because card packs aren't eligible for refunds (though they have done this in rare circumstances for unopened packs). I'd also be willing to bet some people might not even bother with coming back to the game if they see another hero class getting OP stuff, but this probably wouldn't be that many people.
So you're 100% right, this is a non-issue for 10%, maybe 15% of the playerbase. The overwhelming majority of players in any game though aren't hardcore about it and misinformation is bad.
Blizzard taints their card reveal seasons with asinine bullshit and it makes no sense. We're already getting cards with the wrong stats, old cards mixed in with new (they addressed this saying well some people might not have seen the other cards), and the countdowns all being wrong because Blizzard doesn't understand how timezones work.
There are so many other ways they can hype stuff up. Putting out old cards masquerading as new ones isn't it.
Twitter was great when there were people talking about random topics and chronological news. You'd go and see what going on in #Warcraft or such and maybe have a conversation with randos. Now? Political cesspool, regurgitated spam, and with Twitter not even showing you everything you follow, what's the point?
I totally understand why the landscape changed, people learned to more effectively monetize the platform, but damn I miss the old days.
The page load delays are still happening after the update :(
At least pages loads :P
There are some slow load times in places right now and they're being investigated. The site actually being online though is more important than load times.
There has been a partial rollback due to some data integrity issues. If anyone lost any comments or decks, I apologize. To say our migration could have gone smoother is quite the understatement!
For Hearthstone folks, our content should be going live soon for the new expansion. I'll be starting work shortly on making Death Knights and such work with the site as well. We've got a long list of things to get out so thank you for your patience.
This is an announcement to let everyone know that Out of Cards will be down on Halloween night at 11 PM Eastern. Spooky!
We're doing a major migration to new hardware to help improve site performance and make way for a large site update. This will also give us more room to grow going forward as our previous solution has been at its limits for a while now.
Estimated downtime is less than an hour, but no matter how many tests you do, real-world may take longer.
During our downtime, all services operated on Out of Cards will not be available.
Yo for real though, Halloween Cosmetics get me every damn time in every game.
I do like that they're giving big discounts for cosmetics if you just play the game, which is a great way to keep the queues quick. I do worry that some people aren't going to fully understand it though and end up getting screwed over due to the RNG nature of it and them being very casual. Will need to wait and see their in-game messaging on it though - which hasn't been a strength of Hearthstone ever.
I am certain we won't see a new class unless it happens at the start of a year. Rotation is when they get the most eyes on the game, and it gives them a chance to give a new class a fighting chance without creating a bunch of cards for them that are just going to rotate as every class would have 50+ cards more than a base "Death Knight". That's why they had to do the Demon Hunter Initiate set; A late-year DK release means they have to account for two extra expansions.
Next year though? I still think we'll see Monk before Death Knight.
I was definitely in the boat of "I'd love to just buy cards" but the current system feels good enough. Pacing on unlocks has been alright, but I do know that players later on talk about it slowing down so if I end up in that realm, maybe I won't be as happy.
I've only ever bought a battle pass, never felt like I needed to be buying a ton of gold bars to have fun with the game - Hearthstone's Runestones on the other hand...
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Sorry for the trouble, but this check on our login and registration pages has cut down on spam enormously, which makes our lives a lot easier. I wish there was something we could do to make this work, but I'm going to have to trust Cloudflare on this one because they protect millions of websites and the integrity check is definitely used on a good chunk of them without issue - and plenty of folks are still able to login at that!
Honestly though, there might be some decent value in it for aftermarket sales while acquiring some other cards for personal use. Getting some mint oldschool lands would be such a cool addition to the card collection and would be fun to use in sleeved decks.
With them being non-tourney legal though, I was expecting this to be much cheaper. Definitely a premium, but with cards having changes on them, in a lot of cases these are just going to end up as "official proxies" so making them more affordable woulda been nice.
Oh boo hoo.
People should grow a pair and call it like they see it more often. Go get your pre-order in - Bobby Kotick needs another yacht.
Additions & Changes
General
Hearthstone
Bug Fixes
General
Hearthstone
Site deploy going out to fix the rss feed.
In the future, please make a new thread =D
Watching Twitter fall apart since Musk took over is hilarious. 44 Billion for a site that'll be worth a tenth of that in 5 years. It's Yahoo and Tumblr all over again.
The only reason I call it misinformation is because we are in a card reveal season. They really should consider their card reveal season sacred and with Blizzard having poor communication, it is my belief they deserve to be scolded for it. The only way they learn is if people are willing to talk about it.
There were so many different ways they could have gone about promoting the fact that card reveals were starting today. They could have showcased a piece of art and asked people what their favourite cards revealed so far are. Or, if they really wanted to dive back into Knights of the Frozen Throne's adventure, they could have easily done a "Card reveals are starting today, and we'd love to see Death Knights pull x from the past. What cards are you hoping DK gets?" which would have let them be silly (100 Armor, lol) but also encouraging people to talk about the new set and what they want to see.
Today was a poorly executed April Fools joke.
I generally believe that people should do their own research before doing anything. But, I know that I'm definitely not in the majority when it comes to this line of thinking. Because of this, I do think companies should keep their communications factual as much as possible.
That's the fun thing about everything in life though.
George Carlin put it best.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that."
Everyone has a different frame of reference. Folks that are most hardcore about Hearthstone don't really see the game in any other light. "Oh but people will know x y z", except they don't. This is something I've had trouble communicating to our writers about over the years because it isn't something people remember about. Creating content has to be done in an accessible manner. Sometimes it is worth pointing out "obvious" things because although we may think they are obvious, they really aren't Learning how to think like other players is super important.
I honestly don't believe Blizzard puts a lot of thought into their social campaigns. I also believe they are very bad at promoting their stuff and this certainly didn't help their case.
Deficiency? No, everything here is working as intended. We don't have a collectible version of Frostmourne in the database yet so it isn't going to show up via BBCode. BBCode prefers the collectible version and then it'll default to whatever is highest cost, followed by the oldest id in the database.
You have to understand that there are very different audiences in games.
First, you have your ultra hardcore players that are dialed in to the point where they don't miss a thing, they know everything there is to know about the game, and they are ultimately super passionate even when they stop playing.
Then you have your casual player who goes "oh I love game" and they login to play for a few days when new content comes out and then maybe randomly a few more times before another set, and that's that.
Misinformation like this doesn't harm the first kind of player, but it harms the second.
Imagine a scenario where a second player sees that tweet, thinks Death Knight is super overpowered. There is a chance they buy products based on what they see. A product that Blizzard ultimately will refuse to refund because card packs aren't eligible for refunds (though they have done this in rare circumstances for unopened packs). I'd also be willing to bet some people might not even bother with coming back to the game if they see another hero class getting OP stuff, but this probably wouldn't be that many people.
So you're 100% right, this is a non-issue for 10%, maybe 15% of the playerbase. The overwhelming majority of players in any game though aren't hardcore about it and misinformation is bad.
Misinformation is always bad.
No, I'm quite serious about it.
Blizzard taints their card reveal seasons with asinine bullshit and it makes no sense. We're already getting cards with the wrong stats, old cards mixed in with new (they addressed this saying well some people might not have seen the other cards), and the countdowns all being wrong because Blizzard doesn't understand how timezones work.
There are so many other ways they can hype stuff up. Putting out old cards masquerading as new ones isn't it.
280 now, but yeah, Twitter is shit.
Twitter was great when there were people talking about random topics and chronological news. You'd go and see what going on in #Warcraft or such and maybe have a conversation with randos. Now? Political cesspool, regurgitated spam, and with Twitter not even showing you everything you follow, what's the point?
I totally understand why the landscape changed, people learned to more effectively monetize the platform, but damn I miss the old days.
At least pages loads :P
There are some slow load times in places right now and they're being investigated. The site actually being online though is more important than load times.
Hello all,
There has been a partial rollback due to some data integrity issues. If anyone lost any comments or decks, I apologize. To say our migration could have gone smoother is quite the understatement!
For Hearthstone folks, our content should be going live soon for the new expansion. I'll be starting work shortly on making Death Knights and such work with the site as well. We've got a long list of things to get out so thank you for your patience.
This is an announcement to let everyone know that Out of Cards will be down on Halloween night at 11 PM Eastern. Spooky!
We're doing a major migration to new hardware to help improve site performance and make way for a large site update. This will also give us more room to grow going forward as our previous solution has been at its limits for a while now.
Estimated downtime is less than an hour, but no matter how many tests you do, real-world may take longer.
During our downtime, all services operated on Out of Cards will not be available.
Yo for real though, Halloween Cosmetics get me every damn time in every game.
I do like that they're giving big discounts for cosmetics if you just play the game, which is a great way to keep the queues quick. I do worry that some people aren't going to fully understand it though and end up getting screwed over due to the RNG nature of it and them being very casual. Will need to wait and see their in-game messaging on it though - which hasn't been a strength of Hearthstone ever.
I am certain we won't see a new class unless it happens at the start of a year. Rotation is when they get the most eyes on the game, and it gives them a chance to give a new class a fighting chance without creating a bunch of cards for them that are just going to rotate as every class would have 50+ cards more than a base "Death Knight". That's why they had to do the Demon Hunter Initiate set; A late-year DK release means they have to account for two extra expansions.
Next year though? I still think we'll see Monk before Death Knight.
You're very dumb.
I was definitely in the boat of "I'd love to just buy cards" but the current system feels good enough. Pacing on unlocks has been alright, but I do know that players later on talk about it slowing down so if I end up in that realm, maybe I won't be as happy.
I've only ever bought a battle pass, never felt like I needed to be buying a ton of gold bars to have fun with the game - Hearthstone's Runestones on the other hand...
I'm aware of the issue at it will be resolved in an upcoming update.
If anyone is having an issue with Cloudflare's anti-ddos and anti-bot protection, and only in a certain browser, there's nothing we're able to do about it. For whatever reason, Cloudflare has determined it can't go any further with the sign-in. This could be a misbehaving browser addon or something configured in your browser that is abnormal.
If you have JavaScript disabled, or adblock, it's possible either of these could be interfering with it.
Sorry for the trouble, but this check on our login and registration pages has cut down on spam enormously, which makes our lives a lot easier. I wish there was something we could do to make this work, but I'm going to have to trust Cloudflare on this one because they protect millions of websites and the integrity check is definitely used on a good chunk of them without issue - and plenty of folks are still able to login at that!
Collecting is a helluva drug.
Honestly though, there might be some decent value in it for aftermarket sales while acquiring some other cards for personal use. Getting some mint oldschool lands would be such a cool addition to the card collection and would be fun to use in sleeved decks.
With them being non-tourney legal though, I was expecting this to be much cheaper. Definitely a premium, but with cards having changes on them, in a lot of cases these are just going to end up as "official proxies" so making them more affordable woulda been nice.
I really like that they kept it consistent. It makes it very easy for someone coming from another game to know what it means.