I also want to talk about eternal cards that have gotten a lot better in leu of changing play styles
Specifically mystic shot and thermo
I think playing the game without mystic shot right now is gonna feel a little bad
It's the only decent on curve answer to Samara and with simira being ubiquitous across the best control and best aggro decks in eternal thats no small thing
And obvious late game burn potential etc.
No big brain there
But what does surprise me is the massive increase in thermo value
It used to be that this card was dead as a 3 of in every had ever
But standard has trained players to slap down Champs fearlessly
Like oh it's p and z let me just vommit out my hand blah
Or no vengence and I've heard of flock and that's in noxious blah and there's their hand
So yeah thermo into 0 deny decks unironically good support removal option right now
So yeah in this list with the combined best control cards in freij and p and z you can absolutely run thralls without shurima
You can just delay all day with sump, tavern keeper, and blocking with lissandra and spell tutor cuz that's what her real name should be
People think you run ava because it doubles Corina trigger and they are right but the real reason you run 3 ava is catlyn
Want to know how much dmg she does after 6 puffcaps and 3 flashbombs? Half your life total
So running ava without catlyn is a little sus
Because you want that open attack with Corina backup 50/50
Can you 1) stun/frostbite leveled catlyn 2) hold up the deny mana for Corina
Otherwise you basically have to condense Corina cuz you have 0 attack pressure, and you're literally waving a flag saying don't spend your mana and hold up your deny
So now you're 100% all in on combo and I dont play that way personally it's too...gimmicky? Unreliable? Like what are the chances sump monument keeps you alive? I would personally run sump in the freijord shell, so now we are saying okay you can't kill us with chip dmg and we will frostbite the big stuff
Wow I just snap removed your pitches and you lost?
Welcome to eternal
Oh no I shromed you through your champ pitches?
Welcome to Nifty land
Every strategy has a weakness and while we can sit here and talk about which Champs are better to suicide is it zillian or is it Sett
The reality is you don't want to be pigeon holed into one play pattern.
Cuzz yeah someone will just Catlyn your face in. I think thats why I like eternal so much its literally impossible to say hmmm this one.broke strategy is so broken it can't be stopped
So I did win fairly easily there with bard garen into karma sett
But thats because you couldn't buff pitch set
Which is what that deck does
Only Sett doesn't die when you pitch him making him the ultimate close your eyes and swing champ
Meanwhile I fought you tooth and nail for every inch and had a leveled bard
So of course I would win before you could start pitching for value
I dont want to condemn that style of play, which is to say leverage your champions for trade value at any expense.
I will say however that isn't the style of play I enjoy. Naaah I gonna flip, I gonna make 4 mana 7/7 that buffs for 2/2 I gonna do that with bard cuz that's what bard does.
But most would just swing and trade with him all day and that's probably better 90% of the time.
You should be proud of how you played the mono shurima vs mono demacia game
Wish we'd recorded it
You did.your turbo solitaire play style
Very Majin
And I did my speeding ticket play style which is very nifty
And I managed to stop your turbo by killing all your Champs for lethal despite flipped sundisc
So its nice to see that it is possible to play both ways in LOR
Turbo vs reactive
And while I believe turbo has the edge I can get my cheeky out plays in now and then
Jarvans here to tell you you're breaking the speed limit scissors girl
Slow it down!
Youre gonna feel justified just cuz you got to duplicate boar
But you forget while you were busy meming I stole another set of 3 with elites
Gg No re
So if you want to know why Bannana blaster keeps working against you guys?
It's the way you play you're a bit toooo thirsty so when I two for one with the removal and body forcing a burst out of you
Thats all I need that games already over
Tooooo fast toooo thirsty
Sometimes you just gotta slow it down, take your lumps, find your path to victory
But when you're vroom vroom vroom non stop that 4 mana two for 1 is just gonna 100% speed bump you and you're done
Hahahaha so angry
Yeah or you can just high roll lurk that's good too
Okay good 3 game set
I won all 3 with meme banana blaster
And you tried to do hard counter things
And failed
GG No re
Youre teching 3 denies in your yassao deck for me?
So flattering annnnnyways
I remember how this dick swinging competition usually ends don't you?
That deck was worse than mine in every way those flash bombs literally did nothing lol
Rofl omg
Winning in 4 turns
Yep that is what sweaty looks like
"Shen emote shen emote"
Double blade flurry hahahaha
And what if you weren't playing me?
Stop with the hard counter bro it's embarassing
So many xolani need more xolanis rofl
Oh relax you low rolled you died most of the time there hahaha
I know dude I know
Evelyn just wants to board spam and whip her opponents nexus
And bard is like I honk my horn yo
And somehow he keeps winning?
Thats nuts
Hahahaha youre gonna play nothing until aniva landmark?
Okay there's memeing and then there's just 0% chance ever
Yeah see dude?
You just play nothing rofl
Even bad decks will beat you down
Did bard just beat double Xolani big brain?
Thats embarassing
CEDACAYEBUAQMAI6AEDAIFICAEASUMQCAECBWNAFAQAQCBIGBIHAEAIDAEEQCBYEBUAA
I know right elusive aheri deck I' surprised too that this list won
It's a meme right thralls early into sump into champion generator?
What's crazy is that having 60 shromes in deck spread out over 20 cards is nothing if you draw 0 cards.
Thats 2 dmg per turn vs what the 10 you were doing?
Yeah so this meme deck does work and that's crazy and fun
The right play believe it or not is bounce landmark during swing and I never thought I'd believe that
I did replace clocking with blighted I can't meme that hard need 1 board clear heal
This is literally the pitch everything on block
Into open pass
Into answers
Into landmark value deck
It should be pretty much impossible to playground if people don't start hard teching landmark removal again
I also want to talk about eternal cards that have gotten a lot better in leu of changing play styles
Specifically mystic shot and thermo
I think playing the game without mystic shot right now is gonna feel a little bad
It's the only decent on curve answer to Samara and with simira being ubiquitous across the best control and best aggro decks in eternal thats no small thing
And obvious late game burn potential etc.
No big brain there
But what does surprise me is the massive increase in thermo value
It used to be that this card was dead as a 3 of in every had ever
But standard has trained players to slap down Champs fearlessly
Like oh it's p and z let me just vommit out my hand blah
Or no vengence and I've heard of flock and that's in noxious blah and there's their hand
So yeah thermo into 0 deny decks unironically good support removal option right now
So yeah in this list with the combined best control cards in freij and p and z you can absolutely run thralls without shurima
You can just delay all day with sump, tavern keeper, and blocking with lissandra and spell tutor cuz that's what her real name should be
Unironically not bad
and if you want to tech anti aggro you have blighted ravine
and you can drop clockling
I've been moving off aoe's lately ever since aggro doesn't look like aggro anymore
and 1 drops can be like 10/10s
so blighted isn't the auto include it used to be
CEDQCAYEBUAQMAI6AEDAIFIBA4CASAQBAEVDEAQBAQNTIBAEAEAQKBQKAIAQGAIJAEDQIDIA
okay so this is about as memey as it gets right?
where you just pitch all your champs for value, and then actually win with thralls and landmark value?
so yes we run 2 sump and 2 hallowing abyss so we can prevent the opponent from making us unalive on top of our tavern keepers?
seems good no?
so I don't have to do the akshan tahm kench thing which is a little old school?
People think you run ava because it doubles Corina trigger and they are right but the real reason you run 3 ava is catlyn
Want to know how much dmg she does after 6 puffcaps and 3 flashbombs? Half your life total
So running ava without catlyn is a little sus
Because you want that open attack with Corina backup 50/50
Can you 1) stun/frostbite leveled catlyn 2) hold up the deny mana for Corina
Otherwise you basically have to condense Corina cuz you have 0 attack pressure, and you're literally waving a flag saying don't spend your mana and hold up your deny
So now you're 100% all in on combo and I dont play that way personally it's too...gimmicky? Unreliable? Like what are the chances sump monument keeps you alive? I would personally run sump in the freijord shell, so now we are saying okay you can't kill us with chip dmg and we will frostbite the big stuff
That seems good
CQCACBYKBEBQKCRRI2TACAYFAQBAMDQGAECAQGI3GQ2TUAABAEDQUDY
I'm willing to run the one condense from the standard tech instead of the officer squad
There is that one scenario where you double Corina, or even just get your extra mushrooms. But I'm not gonna allow myself to draw 3
That being said I won't do sump monument or condense as a 3 of when that list is literally 50/50 which I can see based on rationing alone
Just give me decent cards the 3 pokey, the 3 concologist, the 3 thermos I'm fairly confident I can survive with that alone
Because I just wrecked Jax orn
Why do these decks keep dropping catlyn?!
You literally just conceded on level because you didn't have her
Respect my girl!
Wait I just found the next great eternal deck Zillian Sett!
You just suicide in all your Champs for value and then time bomb or elusive them to death
Wait don't give them any ideas 😅
Yeah you're pitching again so I'll swap out
Wow I just snap removed your pitches and you lost?
Welcome to eternal
Oh no I shromed you through your champ pitches?
Welcome to Nifty land
Every strategy has a weakness and while we can sit here and talk about which Champs are better to suicide is it zillian or is it Sett
The reality is you don't want to be pigeon holed into one play pattern.
Cuzz yeah someone will just Catlyn your face in. I think thats why I like eternal so much its literally impossible to say hmmm this one.broke strategy is so broken it can't be stopped
Thats a standard thing only.
Now unfortunately this deck is 100% eternal
13 cards out of 40 are rotated
So you won't be seeing thing kinds of results on the "competitive but actually less balanced" format.
But man this is why eternal is fun. You take these dumb unplayable cards like bard like Laurent blade master and together you make them legendary
But then you have to face down 18/18 stats with quick attack across 3 bodies for 0 mana so pick your poison I guess
So I did win fairly easily there with bard garen into karma sett
But thats because you couldn't buff pitch set
Which is what that deck does
Only Sett doesn't die when you pitch him making him the ultimate close your eyes and swing champ
Meanwhile I fought you tooth and nail for every inch and had a leveled bard
So of course I would win before you could start pitching for value
I dont want to condemn that style of play, which is to say leverage your champions for trade value at any expense.
I will say however that isn't the style of play I enjoy. Naaah I gonna flip, I gonna make 4 mana 7/7 that buffs for 2/2 I gonna do that with bard cuz that's what bard does.
But most would just swing and trade with him all day and that's probably better 90% of the time.