But honestly give people a dust refund on xolati if you have to
certain decks can still run him as the meme he's supposed to be
sandmen xolati for example
he's meant to be a niche card
not the biggest creature in the entire game bar none
he literally upsets the stat distribution curve of every other card in the entire game
for as long as siren song interacts with him the way it does
buff deck by 1+1, summon a buffed creature, summon more buffed creatures for cheap, swing with creatures
boom 7 mana 32/32 and its hella fast
faster than anything else in the game
that 1 mana 10/10 and 7 mana 32/32 makes ramp look like a fucking joke
asol who's that? dragon of the universe or something?
nope that random 7 mana darken card is exodia the obliterator
he is the king of LOR
the destroyer of worlds
thanos snap
It isn't lore appropriate, it isn't gameplay appropriate, and it isn't fun most of all
so yeah 500 upvotes riot hotfix your damn game
https://www.reddit.com/r/LegendsOfRuneterra/comments/14ulav1/my_changes_to_siren_song/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
To be fair these ideas are awful
The siren song fix is literally very simple
1 make it 5 mana
2 make it so it doesn't buff xolani
People will say oh no that will slow xolani down significantly
but my response is when did Xolani become the number 1 finisher in every deck ever?
1 drop aggro deck xolani
midrange evelyn deck xolani
bilgewater poro deck? If it could fit xolani and siren song it would trust me
So maybe we just don't let xolani turbo off a card that buffs 1 mana units under the established mana curve?
crazy thought
maybe the game isn't supposed to have 1 mana 10/10s or 7 mana 32/32?
seems kinda unbalanced and borderline broken
maybe we don't do that at all?
maybe we see champ based decks see a massive resurgance in popularity?
maybe the 3 new champs released with this set actually matter?
crazy right?
It doesnt strike me as a coincidence
That the two number 1 decks in lor basically don't care about their Champs
Standard
Spam 1 drops, buff 1 drops, win game
Eternal
Spam spells, play free 6/6s win game
What I'm not seeing is I do x to level champ so my champion can win me the game
So yes every new Champ that gets released will be less relavent and worse than the last
As long as these common spell cards end up out performing everything else in the game
1 siren song
1 pie toss
These things are worth 10 chanpions
Remember when gangplank sejuani was like the strongest deck in the game
Omg gangplank can summon barrels and aoe your whole board
Thats soooooo broken
Now we have 1 mana 9/9s
And people complain the champ design is bad ever since akshan
Bitch you see anyone play akshan except me?
Where's the poro king where's the nidalle where's the Viktor where's the Riven
The reality is that decks in lor are bad right now
Garbage is good
So once we see garbage decks get nerfed maybe Champs can actually be worth playing again
Psssst there was a deck once
Where you would play Riven and then you'd lay fizz
It was actually a cool deck
Where you had to run 1 champ to synergies with the other.long before thr days of
Durrr 4 mana spell make fizz big
You actually level Riven to make fizz big
Yep the game was fun then
We used to complain that high synergy champ decks were too toxic
Those were the days
Now we get to complain that literally no deck makes sense
And everything is filled with fuck
Which did you prefer?
Loooool
What does that have to do with Riven
You moron
Hahahahahahahaha
Ummm ummm
Idk I'm just gonna jamm 1 drops and hope for thr best
Where's NY heroin
Hook it to my veins
Take me away from this life
Brain brain go away
Yeah you can do sundisc
Cuz sundisc is solitaire
But everything else you struggle with dont you?
It's almost funny
Like you played a karma and you were just like fuiuuuuuck
What do I do with her
Why am I paying 6 mana for a 4/3 that doesn't do anything
Omg where's my solitaire at
Ahhhhhh
You are so fucking scared aren't you
You couldn't just run 1 copy of twin disciplines to keep karma alive
Noooooooo
Thats to much like a deck
Gotta turbo a wincon
Gotta sett
Gotta draw draw draw
Dig dig dig
How did that work for you?
I liked watching my akshan flip
He enjoyed it
Good fun all around
Why are you so scared to play tahm
I'm a poro deck
That means freijord poro
I literally can't do anything to tahm
And youre so god damn scared to play the game
You can't even level him?
In a poro deck?!
Play the fucking game Jesus
Maybe then all of these decks will have a plus 50% win rate after siren song nerf
Like eat the 3 little poros with your tahm, play the 4 mana burst card onto your tahm to make him big
Flip landmark win game
It's not hard
You keep just waiting and waiting
I'm in freijord poro
How stupid are you
Am I gonna randomly burried in ice you
In a poro deck?
Stop being stupid play thr game
Level your champ
Do your synergy
Make these decks good again by playing properly
Then you won't need a 1 mana 9/9 with spellshield to win
You see that deck that one right there
What if instead of playing 1 peddler
And trying harding 40 puffcaps into my deck
And then conceding
Here's a crazy idea
And I know it's a weird one
There's this champion called catltn
She levels based on traps in deck
And does dmg based on traps triggered
And she has a gun and a cool level up animation
You could play here and level her and she can do her cool gun stuff
I know I'm just talking out of my ass here
But maybe you don't just take that 1 creature and turbo as hard as you can
Maybe you play the game?
Idk try it see if you like it
And then maybe they will nerf Siren song because turboing non champ wincons is fucking boring
And stupid
And the opposite of what lor does
So I' gonna tell you exactly what gonna happen
Riot is gonna nerf Siren song and xoalti into the fucking dirt
Cuz all of reddit is tired of pro players dictated the balance of LOR and running it into the fucking ground
And then every single bilgewater siren song deck will instantly drop 6% winrate
And then every other real deck with Champs and leveling and synergies
They get to be played again
And everyone lived happily ever after
And your siren song abuser decks can eat fucking dirt
Because only weak minded idiots abuse obvious developer mistakes
But you take a deck that actually requires a modicum of skill
And boom 32%
New Champs are bad Riot waaaaah
Why can't I play a 1 mana card with 9 health and spell shield Riot?
Thats balanced right Riot?
Yeah gj
Yeah no we established the abusing of broken mechanics
Well done
You played a 4 mana card
Then you played 1 drops
How did you do it?
My mind is blown
Moron
What happens to your deck after hot fix
It evaporates
You played a fizz
And that was big
We can call it siren song big fizz
And then we can run xolati at the end
Woioooooooooow
Wow
Just wow
Wo
W
No words
I can build your shen deck for you
Pssssst it runs shen cards
Does shen things
Nuts eh?
I threw I was curious if your deck did anything
Shen stuff etc
Maybe flip shen
Maybe play cards
So sure throw a 5 mana play after doing nothing all game
What difference does it make?
I know I rotated one card in the list and that really fucked you eh?
Didn't line up with your deck tracker on me?
What if I rotate 3 cards
Or 4
Or 5
See me scouting your bullshit?
Get wrecked
See look at that shit
Did your 6 reckoning frostbite deck draw 100% dead that game?
Wonder why?
You think meming is easy rofl?
Nope!
Gotta assassinate that poro deck eh?
Hahahahahaha
Plz stop its over
Your guys are sooooo transparent
You did your Viktor into poros game
It was a 50/50 my deck was better than yours
Let's leave it at that okay
Steam and steam and cook those steamed hams
It doesnt matter
It literally doesn't matter
It's over
It's the good poros deck
From 32% garbage to 50% garbage
Hurray
Hahahaha
Just gonna casually grab the number 2 orn deck
Stretch no big deal
Just cuz I fucning mother ficning hate that poro deck!!!!!!
Gasp cough I'm okay I'm okay
Outing yourself a little
Come on you can't ai with scissors
Thats only for try hard and you still lost
But honestly give people a dust refund on xolati if you have to
certain decks can still run him as the meme he's supposed to be
sandmen xolati for example
he's meant to be a niche card
not the biggest creature in the entire game bar none
he literally upsets the stat distribution curve of every other card in the entire game
for as long as siren song interacts with him the way it does
buff deck by 1+1, summon a buffed creature, summon more buffed creatures for cheap, swing with creatures
boom 7 mana 32/32 and its hella fast
faster than anything else in the game
that 1 mana 10/10 and 7 mana 32/32 makes ramp look like a fucking joke
asol who's that? dragon of the universe or something?
nope that random 7 mana darken card is exodia the obliterator
he is the king of LOR
the destroyer of worlds
thanos snap
It isn't lore appropriate, it isn't gameplay appropriate, and it isn't fun most of all
so yeah 500 upvotes riot hotfix your damn game
https://www.reddit.com/r/LegendsOfRuneterra/comments/14ulav1/my_changes_to_siren_song/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
To be fair these ideas are awful
The siren song fix is literally very simple
1 make it 5 mana
2 make it so it doesn't buff xolani
People will say oh no that will slow xolani down significantly
but my response is when did Xolani become the number 1 finisher in every deck ever?
1 drop aggro deck xolani
midrange evelyn deck xolani
bilgewater poro deck? If it could fit xolani and siren song it would trust me
So maybe we just don't let xolani turbo off a card that buffs 1 mana units under the established mana curve?
crazy thought
maybe the game isn't supposed to have 1 mana 10/10s or 7 mana 32/32?
seems kinda unbalanced and borderline broken
maybe we don't do that at all?
maybe we see champ based decks see a massive resurgance in popularity?
maybe the 3 new champs released with this set actually matter?
crazy right?
It doesnt strike me as a coincidence
That the two number 1 decks in lor basically don't care about their Champs
Standard
Spam 1 drops, buff 1 drops, win game
Eternal
Spam spells, play free 6/6s win game
What I'm not seeing is I do x to level champ so my champion can win me the game
So yes every new Champ that gets released will be less relavent and worse than the last
As long as these common spell cards end up out performing everything else in the game
1 siren song
1 pie toss
These things are worth 10 chanpions
Remember when gangplank sejuani was like the strongest deck in the game
Omg gangplank can summon barrels and aoe your whole board
Thats soooooo broken
Now we have 1 mana 9/9s
And people complain the champ design is bad ever since akshan
Bitch you see anyone play akshan except me?
Where's the poro king where's the nidalle where's the Viktor where's the Riven
The reality is that decks in lor are bad right now
Garbage is good
So once we see garbage decks get nerfed maybe Champs can actually be worth playing again
Psssst there was a deck once
Where you would play Riven and then you'd lay fizz
It was actually a cool deck
Where you had to run 1 champ to synergies with the other.long before thr days of
Durrr 4 mana spell make fizz big
You actually level Riven to make fizz big
Yep the game was fun then
We used to complain that high synergy champ decks were too toxic
Those were the days
Now we get to complain that literally no deck makes sense
And everything is filled with fuck
Which did you prefer?
Loooool
What does that have to do with Riven
You moron
Hahahahahahahaha
Ummm ummm
Idk I'm just gonna jamm 1 drops and hope for thr best
Where's NY heroin
Hook it to my veins
Take me away from this life
Brain brain go away
Yeah you can do sundisc
Cuz sundisc is solitaire
But everything else you struggle with dont you?
It's almost funny
Like you played a karma and you were just like fuiuuuuuck
What do I do with her
Why am I paying 6 mana for a 4/3 that doesn't do anything
Omg where's my solitaire at
Ahhhhhh
You are so fucking scared aren't you
You couldn't just run 1 copy of twin disciplines to keep karma alive
Noooooooo
Thats to much like a deck
Gotta turbo a wincon
Gotta sett
Gotta draw draw draw
Dig dig dig
How did that work for you?
I liked watching my akshan flip
He enjoyed it
Good fun all around
Loooool
Why are you so scared to play tahm
I'm a poro deck
That means freijord poro
I literally can't do anything to tahm
And youre so god damn scared to play the game
You can't even level him?
In a poro deck?!
Play the fucking game Jesus
Maybe then all of these decks will have a plus 50% win rate after siren song nerf
Like eat the 3 little poros with your tahm, play the 4 mana burst card onto your tahm to make him big
Flip landmark win game
It's not hard
You keep just waiting and waiting
I'm in freijord poro
How stupid are you
Am I gonna randomly burried in ice you
In a poro deck?
Stop being stupid play thr game
Level your champ
Do your synergy
Make these decks good again by playing properly
Then you won't need a 1 mana 9/9 with spellshield to win
You see that deck that one right there
What if instead of playing 1 peddler
And trying harding 40 puffcaps into my deck
And then conceding
Here's a crazy idea
And I know it's a weird one
There's this champion called catltn
She levels based on traps in deck
And does dmg based on traps triggered
And she has a gun and a cool level up animation
You could play here and level her and she can do her cool gun stuff
I know I'm just talking out of my ass here
But maybe you don't just take that 1 creature and turbo as hard as you can
Maybe you play the game?
Idk try it see if you like it
And then maybe they will nerf Siren song because turboing non champ wincons is fucking boring
And stupid
And the opposite of what lor does
So I' gonna tell you exactly what gonna happen
Riot is gonna nerf Siren song and xoalti into the fucking dirt
Cuz all of reddit is tired of pro players dictated the balance of LOR and running it into the fucking ground
And then every single bilgewater siren song deck will instantly drop 6% winrate
And then every other real deck with Champs and leveling and synergies
They get to be played again
And everyone lived happily ever after
And your siren song abuser decks can eat fucking dirt
Because only weak minded idiots abuse obvious developer mistakes
But you take a deck that actually requires a modicum of skill
And boom 32%
New Champs are bad Riot waaaaah
Why can't I play a 1 mana card with 9 health and spell shield Riot?
Thats balanced right Riot?
Yeah gj
Yeah no we established the abusing of broken mechanics
Well done
You played a 4 mana card
Then you played 1 drops
How did you do it?
My mind is blown
Moron
What happens to your deck after hot fix
It evaporates
Well done
You played a fizz
And that was big
We can call it siren song big fizz
And then we can run xolati at the end
Woioooooooooow
Wow
Just wow
Wo
W
No words
I can build your shen deck for you
Pssssst it runs shen cards
Does shen things
Nuts eh?
I threw I was curious if your deck did anything
Shen stuff etc
Maybe flip shen
Maybe play cards
So sure throw a 5 mana play after doing nothing all game
What difference does it make?
I know I rotated one card in the list and that really fucked you eh?
Didn't line up with your deck tracker on me?
What if I rotate 3 cards
Or 4
Or 5
See me scouting your bullshit?
Get wrecked
See look at that shit
Did your 6 reckoning frostbite deck draw 100% dead that game?
Wonder why?
You think meming is easy rofl?
Nope!
Gotta assassinate that poro deck eh?
Hahahahahaha
Plz stop its over
Your guys are sooooo transparent
You did your Viktor into poros game
It was a 50/50 my deck was better than yours
Let's leave it at that okay
Steam and steam and cook those steamed hams
It doesnt matter
It literally doesn't matter
It's over
It's the good poros deck
From 32% garbage to 50% garbage
Hurray
Hahahaha
Just gonna casually grab the number 2 orn deck
Stretch no big deal
Just cuz I fucning mother ficning hate that poro deck!!!!!!
Gasp cough I'm okay I'm okay
Hahahahahaha
Outing yourself a little
Come on you can't ai with scissors
Thats only for try hard and you still lost