The Greatest Dinomancers (aka. 5/5 Dreadsteed Warlock)

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Expired Merchant Card Image Cruel Dinomancer Card Image Spiritsinger Umbra Card Image

This seemed to be a popular theorycraft when Expired Merchant was announced since it enabled a guaranteed discard of Cruel Dinomancer to make it a 5/5 Dreadsteed.  Most of the theorycrafts I saw went for a more Zoo-ish approach with cards like Void Terror, Ratcatcher, and Grim Rally.  In my experience first trying it though, I found the deck doesn't really want to do that. Spiritsinger Umbra filling your board with infinite 5/5s doesn't mix well with having a lot of minions and you almost always wanted to go for the full board.

Based on these first impressions with the deck, I scrapped the Zoo approach and went full-on Combo, just trying to draw as much as possible to find Expired Merchant, Cruel Dinomancer, and Spiritsinger Umbra as fast as possible without dying. Plague of Flames has performed very well in this deck.  It pairs quite nicely with the small draw minions and Mistress of Mixtures and once you get a bunch of Cruel Dinomancers on the board it essentially becomes a 1 Mana 1-sided Twisting Nether!

Playing around with the deck for a few hours yesterday I only lost a handful of times almost always to hyper-aggressive decks.  Antique Healbot and Zilliax may be a good idea to include for more survivability.  I'd probably cut the Shadow Bolts and maybe 1 Power Overwhelming to fit them in.

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  • ETSD's Avatar
    170 8 Posts Joined 06/12/2019
    Posted 5 years, 2 months ago

    I am having a lot of fun with this deck. I used to run a Dreadsteed deck until it was nerfed to death. This is the closest I think I'll come to recapturing that deck. The only thing missing is a way to more consistently draw the Cruel Dinomancers (I used Sense Demons for the Dreadsteeds).

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  • Pezman's Avatar
    Staff Writer 2235 2285 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 5 years, 3 months ago

    Have all the cards, so why not? Looks fun.

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  • ArcticFox's Avatar
    Zombie 375 118 Posts Joined 05/30/2019
    Posted 5 years, 3 months ago

    Watermelon86,

    I think you won the internet with this deck. Good work!

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  • Hydrafrog's Avatar
    Gul'dan 1840 3268 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 5 years, 3 months ago

    Until I craft Spiritsinger Umbra, would Baron Rivendare be a decent substitute?  It's the same cost, and I would imagine stays out just as long once your opponent realizes what's coming. 

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    • WhatAChamp's Avatar
      Honorary Explorer 285 56 Posts Joined 03/31/2019
      Posted 5 years, 3 months ago

      You can use Rivendare after you've played a Dinomancer and then trade the dino and Dark Pact one of the two that resurrects. That way you have four dinos to work with. I actually run both and use eggs as well so that they're not dead cards in the matchups where I don't draw into my combo right away.

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    • Watermelon86's Avatar
      Magma Rager 475 207 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
      Posted 5 years, 3 months ago
      Quote From Hydrafrog

      Until I craft Spiritsinger Umbra, would Baron Rivendare be a decent substitute?  It's the same cost, and I would imagine stays out just as long once your opponent realizes what's coming. 

      Yeah, that could work alright. Tweaking the deck a bit to include Carnivorous Cube may be a good idea as well.

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  • Trewbrew's Avatar
    140 26 Posts Joined 06/09/2019
    Posted 5 years, 3 months ago

    This was one of the Theorycrafted concepts I anticipated most with the expansion and having lost to it once and beaten it twice on the ladder, I have to say I'm surprised by it's effectiveness at rank 5 and up. This is a solid deck list though I swapped a few cards to tech against Quest/Secret Mage because they are overabundant and annoying.

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  • OneUp's Avatar
    Garrosh 125 21 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 5 years, 3 months ago

    Had a few hilarious games with this deck, perfect for pottering around at Rank 5 and having some fun. Cheers.

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  • WhatAChamp's Avatar
    Honorary Explorer 285 56 Posts Joined 03/31/2019
    Posted 5 years, 3 months ago

    While I get what you're saying about other minions being counterproductive, I disagree that this is the best way to build it. While this setup likely gets Dinomancers out earlier, adding some eggs and activators gives you an explosive early game that can often win or at least give you trading fodder until you get the dinos down. I just can't see your deck holding its own against aggro.

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  • KANSAS's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 1745 2912 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 5 years, 3 months ago

    I am missing Spiritsinger Umbra. What do you think would be a good replacement? I would think that adding some faceless manipulators and carniverous cubes would be good. But then I would have to remove more cards. I would probably remove X2 drain soul for two faceless, and umbra for a cube.

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    • Watermelon86's Avatar
      Magma Rager 475 207 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
      Posted 5 years, 3 months ago
      Quote From MalcolmReynolds

      I am missing Spiritsinger Umbra. What do you think would be a good replacement? I would think that adding some faceless manipulators and carniverous cubes would be good. But then I would have to remove more cards. I would probably remove X2 drain soul for two faceless, and umbra for a cube.

      I'd probably play 2 cubes and one Faceless, but that does seem to be the best option if you don't have Umbra.  I would advise making the changes I mentioned above for Healbots and Zilliax though.

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  • dencrypt's Avatar
    190 22 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 5 years, 3 months ago

    Awesome. Just awesome!

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  • TheGrimPaladin's Avatar
    Gul'dan 255 15 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 5 years, 3 months ago

    I tried the deck, and even though it's weak to many sorts of removal, it's very effective nonetheless. The biggest issue I have with it however, is that I find this kind of deck lackluster in the 'fun department'. I personally do not enjoy one trick glass cannon decks, how effective they may be. I also made some edits to the deck, as I found out it lacks draw power. What I did was:

    -2 Dark Bomb

    -2 Shadow Bolt

    +2 Coldlight Oracle

    +2 Loot Hoarder

     

    tldr; the deck is really good, but for me not a lot of fun to play.

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  • bsenk's Avatar
    150 3 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 5 years, 3 months ago

    This is a really great fun deck. Thanks for making this.

    In my games i changed some cards, trying to lean more on healing and add some tech vs secrets.
    Worked with varying success on Rank 5, but when it did work, damn it was satisfying.

    Most opponent really don't expect this kind of deck at the moment.

    -2 Dark Pact
    -2 Power Overwhelming
    -2 Darkbomb
    -2 Plot Twist
    -2 Novice Engineer

    +1 Antique Healbot
    +1 Zilliax
    +2 Traveling Healer
    +2 Shroom Brewer
    +2 Coldlight Oracle
    +1 Kezan Mystic
    +1 Eater of Secrets

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  • FuRenz's Avatar
    Vampire 340 142 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 5 years, 3 months ago

    Just tried the deck, sooooo fun, and effective! Thanks! 

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  • KennyThePenny's Avatar
    75 2 Posts Joined 06/14/2019
    Posted 5 years, 3 months ago

    I just crafted Plague of Flames and Dinomancers since this deck seemed pretty fun and interesting. Wasn't expecting much, but I decided to give it a shot. Hot damn. This deck is insane! Its on the power level of Naga Giants and Pre-nerf Ungoro Quest Rogue. There is no counterplay aside from Psychic Scream, and the dinomancers ensure that you threaten lethal no matter what. Power overwhelming indeed. Definitely give this a shot as its very cheap in terms of dust and VERY powerful.

    edit: I forgot about Devolve, Murloc Plague and Poison Seeds, but regardless its still very powerful.

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    • Watermelon86's Avatar
      Magma Rager 475 207 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
      Posted 5 years, 3 months ago
      Quote From KennyThePenny

      edit: I forgot about Devolve, Murloc Plague and Poison Seeds, but regardless its still very powerful.

      Poison Seeds actually doesn't counter it since deathrattles trigger before the treants are summoned.

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  • chrisroed's Avatar
    Gul'dan 255 11 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 5 years, 3 months ago

    This looks very promising and fun, I will try to make a similar deck and see what happens.

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