Saviors of Uldum Predictions and Expactations
This season is one of my favorite seasons. Prediction Season. Just 10 or less cards are revealed and others are waiting us to speculate, so I'm starting it.
Firstly Plagues;
They've said all of the Villain classes will have Plague cards as board clears. Priest's one is revealed, Plague of Death
My personal sentiment about plagues are that They will be refferances of real 10 Plagues of Egypt;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plagues_of_Egypt
For shaman; Plague of Frogs or Plague of Thunder and Hail
For Warlock; Plague of Blood
For Rogue; Plague of Darkness
For Warrior; Plague of Disease
Well, I can only predict names tho. I couldn't really imagine what will they do mechanically.
Second Heroes and Villains;
We all saw this expansion will be around our beloved LoE Heroes; Brann, Elise, Reno and Finley
Elise and Brann's classes are obvious;
Elise will be Druid and Brann will be Hunter but Finley and Reno ?
Finley fits in Paladin mechanically and Reno fits in Mage mechanically but I don't think they will do this mechanically,
There are some rumors about Reno being bronze dragon and I also support this rumors.
I am seeing this like Reno Jackson being Paladin card and Finley being Mage card.
In the cinematic of the expansion, Reno uses a crystallic weapon and crystals are Paladin's science area in Boomsday, Also we know Dranei Paladins uses Gem Mauls. Also Reno Jackson casts a spell in the cinematic which blows in Yellow Light like Holy Light.
If we come to the Finley, I can only speculate it like "Murlocs are mostly shamans and Shamans uses Elements, Mages also uses elements and Finley is an intelligent Murloc ( he can even speak in common language) so maybe This intelligent murloc could use magic."
Also I remember a quote from Brann Bronzebeard. He was claimed that murlocs can be more intelligent then people thought. I don't think the leader of the Explorer's League will be mistaken.
I want to add Harrison Jones here too. He is a student to Brann Bronzebeard and Uldum is his quest area iirc. So I think we will see a neutral Harrison Jones in this expansion.
If I would speak about Villains, I need to speak about themes also.
Peter Whaleen said that we could see same characters in next expansions, so I guess we will see all of the Villains in the expansion as Legendary cards.
Mostly Rafaam, because sands are his territory.
Themes of Villain classes will change in this expansion imo. Mostly Dr.Boom's theme.
I think Warrior will have mummy theme instead of science/boom/mech theme. We will see less Dr. Boom in this expansion because his territory is cities, labarotories etc. Leader of Villains need Boom because of his rockets.
Same with Rogue, E.V.I.L. needed Togwaggle's spying, burgling for stealing Dalaran. Now rouges will have a different theme. It will be deathrattle-ish imo but well I may be wrong.
These 2 classes are like lesser evils. Maybe Shaman could be lesser evil too but a bit more than other two. At least E.V.I.L. still needs her because of her conjuring talents. Some Shamans ended up being Warlocks after all. Shaman's theme will be elements and totems instead of murlocs in this expansion imo.
If we come to the Priest, Lazul is a servant of old gods. I only can think about Infinite Dragonflight here. We saw Puzzle Box of Yogg-Saron as a callback of old gods. Maybe we can see other artifacts which belongs to old gods thematically but I'm hoping for Dragons. :) Theme of priest will continue to be shadow-y and old god-ish, imo.
Warlock's theme might change too because Rafaam is trying to locate Dalaran in his territory. He is supreme archeologist in first look. His Quest card is archeology related. We will see Tol'virs and sand related stuff in Warlock instead of demons in this expansion imo.
I would claimed that this expansion's callbacks will be Un'goro, Old Gods and LoE before the reveal. It became true mostly.
We will have quests from Un'goro, Heroes from LoE, but Old Gods ? We only saw an artifact related Yogg-Saron, Hope's End and that's a thing at least. It is also a callback mechanically. I've thought that maybe we can see Infinite Dragons because it is Uldum. It seems it won't be the fact but;
I think there is a fact about Blackrock. In the next Event, We will fight against Nefarian and Ragnaros the Firelord as Villains as the result of the Mountain Crash and this is the Year of the Dragon. They've said that all of the year is in same theme.
I am speculating that We will see neutral dragons in this expansion. Dragons from Blackrock. There is a big MAYBE here. I can't be so sure about it. It is just a speculation.It could be just an event tho.
and thirdly Quests,
I will make very detailed predictions here because quests are one of my favorite mechanics in Hearthstone. but details for cards, not themes.
We saw a Passive hero power which excites me most. I love the idea of Passive hero powers. So my predictions;
Priest Quest: " play 7 cards from your opponents deck, reward: 'hero power name', Passive hero power; Your healing effects damages instead"
Warrior Quest "kill 15 minions in your turns, Reward: 'hero power name', Hero Power: Deal 1 damage to a minion and give it 2 attack"
Rogue Quest "Trigger 8 deathrattles of your cards, Reward: 'hero power name', Hero Power: Trigger a friendly deathrattle"
Shaman Quest "Overload 10 mana crystals, Reward: 'hero power name', Hero Power: Deal damage equal to your overloaded mana crystals, or, Unlock your overloaded mana crystals." (revealed - Corrupt the Waters )
Paladin Quest: " Lose 10 Divine shields on your minions Reward: 'hero power name' Hero Power: Give a friendly minion Divine Shield"
Mage Quest: " Play 10 different spells, Reward: 'hero power name', Passive Hero Power: Spell Damage +3"
Hunter Quest: " Play 10 battlecry minions, Reward: 'hero Power name' Passive Hero Power: Your beasts have rush"
and Lastly Other Stuff;
We will see at least 1 lackey according to blizzard; It might be like "Battlecry: Discover a 2-cost minion."
Like I said above, I am expecting to see Harrison Jones again,
Like Plagues, All of the LoE Hero Classes might have an artifact about Old Gods, Mage got Puzzle Box of Yogg-Saron
it could be like C'Thun artifact for Druid, N'Zoth, the Corruptor artifact for Hunter and Y'Shaarj, Rage Unbound artifact for Paladin. Because there are 4 hero classes and 4 Old Gods.
(If my Artifacts of Old Gods speculation became true, My prediction about Hunter's quest will be meaningless, so Hunter's quest could be around deathrattles instead.)
We might see Glibb as a token of Brann Bronzebeard legendary card, it is the Gorilla Companion of Brann Bronzebeard like Misha of Rexxar
Druid's theme will be around damaging spells, starfalls etc. Not around minions this time imo.
Well, it is like that for now. If I find anything to speculate I will add here. Let me know your predictions and expectations too.
Btw, sorry for so long thread. :)
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This season is one of my favorite seasons. Prediction Season. Just 10 or less cards are revealed and others are waiting us to speculate, so I'm starting it.
Firstly Plagues;
They've said all of the Villain classes will have Plague cards as board clears. Priest's one is revealed, Plague of Death
My personal sentiment about plagues are that They will be refferances of real 10 Plagues of Egypt;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plagues_of_Egypt
For shaman; Plague of Frogs or Plague of Thunder and Hail
For Warlock; Plague of Blood
For Rogue; Plague of Darkness
For Warrior; Plague of Disease
Well, I can only predict names tho. I couldn't really imagine what will they do mechanically.
Second Heroes and Villains;
We all saw this expansion will be around our beloved LoE Heroes; Brann, Elise, Reno and Finley
Elise and Brann's classes are obvious;
Elise will be Druid and Brann will be Hunter but Finley and Reno ?
Finley fits in Paladin mechanically and Reno fits in Mage mechanically but I don't think they will do this mechanically,
There are some rumors about Reno being bronze dragon and I also support this rumors.
I am seeing this like Reno Jackson being Paladin card and Finley being Mage card.
In the cinematic of the expansion, Reno uses a crystallic weapon and crystals are Paladin's science area in Boomsday, Also we know Dranei Paladins uses Gem Mauls. Also Reno Jackson casts a spell in the cinematic which blows in Yellow Light like Holy Light.
If we come to the Finley, I can only speculate it like "Murlocs are mostly shamans and Shamans uses Elements, Mages also uses elements and Finley is an intelligent Murloc ( he can even speak in common language) so maybe This intelligent murloc could use magic."
Also I remember a quote from Brann Bronzebeard. He was claimed that murlocs can be more intelligent then people thought. I don't think the leader of the Explorer's League will be mistaken.
I want to add Harrison Jones here too. He is a student to Brann Bronzebeard and Uldum is his quest area iirc. So I think we will see a neutral Harrison Jones in this expansion.
If I would speak about Villains, I need to speak about themes also.
Peter Whaleen said that we could see same characters in next expansions, so I guess we will see all of the Villains in the expansion as Legendary cards.
Mostly Rafaam, because sands are his territory.
Themes of Villain classes will change in this expansion imo. Mostly Dr.Boom's theme.
I think Warrior will have mummy theme instead of science/boom/mech theme. We will see less Dr. Boom in this expansion because his territory is cities, labarotories etc. Leader of Villains need Boom because of his rockets.
Same with Rogue, E.V.I.L. needed Togwaggle's spying, burgling for stealing Dalaran. Now rouges will have a different theme. It will be deathrattle-ish imo but well I may be wrong.
These 2 classes are like lesser evils. Maybe Shaman could be lesser evil too but a bit more than other two. At least E.V.I.L. still needs her because of her conjuring talents. Some Shamans ended up being Warlocks after all. Shaman's theme will be elements and totems instead of murlocs in this expansion imo.
If we come to the Priest, Lazul is a servant of old gods. I only can think about Infinite Dragonflight here. We saw Puzzle Box of Yogg-Saron as a callback of old gods. Maybe we can see other artifacts which belongs to old gods thematically but I'm hoping for Dragons. :) Theme of priest will continue to be shadow-y and old god-ish, imo.
Warlock's theme might change too because Rafaam is trying to locate Dalaran in his territory. He is supreme archeologist in first look. His Quest card is archeology related. We will see Tol'virs and sand related stuff in Warlock instead of demons in this expansion imo.
I would claimed that this expansion's callbacks will be Un'goro, Old Gods and LoE before the reveal. It became true mostly.
We will have quests from Un'goro, Heroes from LoE, but Old Gods ? We only saw an artifact related Yogg-Saron, Hope's End and that's a thing at least. It is also a callback mechanically. I've thought that maybe we can see Infinite Dragons because it is Uldum. It seems it won't be the fact but;
I think there is a fact about Blackrock. In the next Event, We will fight against Nefarian and Ragnaros the Firelord as Villains as the result of the Mountain Crash and this is the Year of the Dragon. They've said that all of the year is in same theme.
I am speculating that We will see neutral dragons in this expansion. Dragons from Blackrock. There is a big MAYBE here. I can't be so sure about it. It is just a speculation.It could be just an event tho.
and thirdly Quests,
I will make very detailed predictions here because quests are one of my favorite mechanics in Hearthstone. but details for cards, not themes.
We saw a Passive hero power which excites me most. I love the idea of Passive hero powers. So my predictions;
Priest Quest: " play 7 cards from your opponents deck, reward: 'hero power name', Passive hero power; Your healing effects damages instead"
Warrior Quest "kill 15 minions in your turns, Reward: 'hero power name', Hero Power: Deal 1 damage to a minion and give it 2 attack"
Rogue Quest "Trigger 8 deathrattles of your cards, Reward: 'hero power name', Hero Power: Trigger a friendly deathrattle"
Shaman Quest "Overload 10 mana crystals, Reward: 'hero power name', Hero Power: Deal damage equal to your overloaded mana crystals, or, Unlock your overloaded mana crystals." (revealed - Corrupt the Waters )
Paladin Quest: " Lose 10 Divine shields on your minions Reward: 'hero power name' Hero Power: Give a friendly minion Divine Shield"
Mage Quest: " Play 10 different spells, Reward: 'hero power name', Passive Hero Power: Spell Damage +3"
Hunter Quest: " Play 10 battlecry minions, Reward: 'hero Power name' Passive Hero Power: Your beasts have rush"
and Lastly Other Stuff;
We will see at least 1 lackey according to blizzard; It might be like "Battlecry: Discover a 2-cost minion."
Like I said above, I am expecting to see Harrison Jones again,
Like Plagues, All of the LoE Hero Classes might have an artifact about Old Gods, Mage got Puzzle Box of Yogg-Saron
it could be like C'Thun artifact for Druid, N'Zoth, the Corruptor artifact for Hunter and Y'Shaarj, Rage Unbound artifact for Paladin. Because there are 4 hero classes and 4 Old Gods.
(If my Artifacts of Old Gods speculation became true, My prediction about Hunter's quest will be meaningless, so Hunter's quest could be around deathrattles instead.)
We might see Glibb as a token of Brann Bronzebeard legendary card, it is the Gorilla Companion of Brann Bronzebeard like Misha of Rexxar
Druid's theme will be around damaging spells, starfalls etc. Not around minions this time imo.
Well, it is like that for now. If I find anything to speculate I will add here. Let me know your predictions and expectations too.
Btw, sorry for so long thread. :)
Unpopular Opinion Incarnate
We're not given too much to go with, but from what clues are out there I'd say Finley is the more likely paladin and Reno ends up as the mage by process of elimination, despite it not fitting his character remotely. The golden fish that Finley uses as a cudgel in the cinematic is definitely more paladin themed, and that class has had past murloc synergies. Meanwhile, Reno's crystal gadget strikes me more as a technomagical mage weapon than a paladin artefact, and the explosion he uses to escape the sand wurm looks more like a fiery mage spell than something holy.
yeah you might be right, It is the most confusing part of this expansion for me already.
Even Sir Finley Mrrgglton name could be a refferance that Finley's class. It makes me think that like "Hey, can a mage be a sir? or A Paladin Sir is more suitable ?"
And the weapon Finley holds in the cinematic, Mages don't use weapons in Hearthstone. So yeah, Porbably Finley is Paladin and Reno is Mage. Finley even might have a text like "equip x/x weapon". Which is that golden fish-y artifact.
Unpopular Opinion Incarnate
I hope the hunter quest reward ain't rush.. hunters go face! What will I do with puny rush minions?
More seriously though I didn't mind playing 1-costs for Carnassa and we've seen some 1-cost synergies lately, with jar vender being from Uldum, so maybe its still something related to them.. or beasts.. there's been some beast generation cards too and that'd be a fun direction to take. Im kinda bored with mechs tbh.
ARES summons Erymanthian Huffer.
ARES declares attack with Huffer .
Adonis' hp reached 0. ARES wins!
no, not another Deathstalker Rexxar if possible or any other infinite value card like Dr. Boom, Mad Genius. They were not healthy for the game.
Unpopular Opinion Incarnate
Really neat predictions, but:
Your idea for the priest quest is extremly weak. You'd almost always be better of running [Hearthstone Card (Shadow Form) Not Found]. So counter-suggestion: your healing effects deal damage to enemys instead. Which would still make it hard to build a deck, but you could stabilze yourself somewhat.
For the plagues: the old egyptian ones would be an interesting ldea, but since there is no reference to real world religions at all in Hearthstone, at least one should be different. Also, I do not think a plague of Frogs is likely: given the Expansion art, we see frogs accompanying the League of Explorers, why would they do that, if they aren't on the side of good?(which could be a sign, that Hagatha changes sides)
I haven't got that many predictions to share yet but here's one: Mage quest reward Hero Power will be either "add a random spell to your hand" or "cast a random spell".
Finley as Paladin has already been confirmed by Mike Donais on Reddit.
Reno as Mage has also been confirmed, I believe.
The end of days is coming. Doomsayer was right all along.
yes, it also has been confirmed on reddit,
https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/c8fhlp/confirmed_sir_finley_is_a_mage/esnmd4b/
Well, I have already accepted that 6 posts above :) Both are reasonable decisions imo. I hope cards will be good enough :)
Unpopular Opinion Incarnate
I would love to make a Casino Mage deck in standard: the cyclone backbone with Scrolls of Wonders (has it rotated already?) and Puzzle-Boxes of Yogg-Saron. I hope you're right lol.
Priest could get a Damage-based hero power since it looks like Priest will become the king of control (and somehow Radiance will be played in such a deck)
I don't think they will give mage more random spells, especially with a quest. They did it on Un'goro for quest progress.
Well, it would be cool if they make a Zombeast hero power for mage like "Discover 2 spells and combine both." Zomspells. :P
Unpopular Opinion Incarnate
Mage hero power should be "Destroy a minion and summon 2 of the same cost" so you can destroy the mountain giant of the opponent and then get two of them yourself :) Now that's a serious hero power.