We've got an important update to share this evening from Blizzard surrounding the new Samuro Diamond card and Mankrik on the rewards track and the duplicate protection that won't be available if you are participating in the pack openings on pre-release weekend.
- Mankrik is available on the Rewards Track for free at Level 1.
- Diamond Blademaster Samuro is available on the Tavern Pass at Level 1.
Since the Forged in the Barrens Rewards Track and Tavern Pass are not going to be immediately available, it will be possible to obtain different versions of these cards if you open your packs early since you won't have the duplicate protection in place that you normally would have if obtaining the cards through the pass before opening packs.
Because of this, the following cards will be disenchantable for their full dust value for a week following pre-release:
- Blademaster Samuro (Regular)
- Blademaster Samuro (Golden)
- Mankrik (Golden)
This change means we won't be penalized for opening our card packs early during pre-release weekend as if we get any of the above cards, we'll be able to disenchant it and craft any other card we want. It is actually more beneficial to open your packs during pre-release weekend now since if you obtain one of the cards, they essentially become a wild card to craft any legendary in the set. You could also just crack them open without redeeming anything in the rewards track & tavern pass once the expansion goes live, you just need to make sure you still disenchant the cards in the 1-week window!
Read on for the full post from Blizzard.
Quote From Kerfluffle With Forged in the Barrens Pre-Release weekend coming up we wanted to share a quick update on an issue we’ve discovered which affects how two new Legendary cards, Mankrik and Blademaster Samuro, are acquired.
As a reminder, Mankrik will be available to everyone for free at level 1 on the Forged in the Barrens Rewards Track, and Diamond Blademaster Samuro will be available at level 1 on the Forged in the Barrens Tavern Pass. However, Forged in the Barrens card packs opened before visiting the Reward Track, and during Pre-Release weekend, can contain Blademaster Samuro or Golden Mankrik (in place of another Legendary card).
To address this, full Dust refunds will be available for the week following Pre-Release, this applies to golden Mankrik, non-golden Blademaster Samuro, and golden Blademaster Samuro.
Comments
Is there any other disenchanting advise before the new patch arrives? Specifically for Core Set?
can I disenchant Mankrik for full dust on day1 tho? I know its not meant to be like that but maybe the refunds last until just after the release or something?
it would be good to get 1600 dust instead of mankrik I think
No, it is noncraftable nondisenchantable legendary
ooh I see...
you could also just crack them open without redeeming anything in the rewards track & tavern pass once the expansion goes live,
My new plan.
I mean will Mankrik even see play past the first week? I'm thinking of disenchanting the golden version regardless if I open him or not.
You can get golden makrik only through packs, tavern pass gives only regular copy which is not disenchantable...
Oh thanks, I got it it all mixed up lol
Still not gonna participate in Pre-releases if they won't give pre-order golden cards and let me craft cards before opening packs
What has been missed out so far but is also covered by the solution are the free legendarys that come with the preorder bundles. Even without opening packs early during pre-release weekend you're still running the risk of getting Mankrik or Samuro as a part of your preorder. Those pop up when you start the game for the first time after the new expansion went live, so there's no chance to go to the new reward track and claim the free cards before.
I was wrong about that, Shuckie cleared things up (look below). Thanks!
They have already said that you cannot get Mankrik or Samuro from those preorder legendaries, so it's all good.
Thanks, I didn't know that!
No problem. It was easy to miss because Blizz (and subsequently OoC) only added it as a *NEW* FAQ in the post on the next rewards track (https://outof.cards/hearthstone/2826-hearthstone-reveals-details-on-forged-in-the-barrens-rewards-track) some time after the post was originally made.
As a reminder: Cards you have obtained and disenchanted still count as "obtained" for the purposes of duplicate protection. So if you are planning to buy the Tavern Pass but do not expect to obtain a full set of Barrens cards right away, it is in your best interest to find a normal/golden Samuro now and get him into the "obtained" pool. Otherwise, you run the risk of finding him after the full-refund window has closed, and you'll only get the standard 400 for him. Get him into the pool now, and you won't see him again until you've collected all the other legendaries in the set.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe this also means that if you have the dust available, you can craft and immediately dust the normal and golden versions of Samuro (as well as golden Mankrik) during the first week if you don't want them showing up in packs after the full-refund window has closed.
EDIT: Turns out most of this was wrong/unnecessary! Only the bold part is worth knowing.
There's no need to craft them, no risk of finding them later. We'll get Mankrik and Diamond Samuro at launch. Those won't show up in packs due to duplicate protection.
The only risk was to get those from packs at the pre-release event, and Blizzard covered it by allowing full-disenchant.
Golden and normal cards are tracked separately for the purposes of duplicate protection. Presumably, diamond has its own separate tracking as well (though duplicate protection isn't really necessary for diamond cards).
So yes, you could open a golden Mankrik or either type of Samuro after you already have the free ones.
There are some different opinions about it, but I've got this.
https://twitter.com/Celestalon/status/1246508760006135809
So unless you have all the legendaries, you shouldn't get duplicates, golden, diamond or regular.
Upon further investigation, it turns out that last year's duplicate protection changes happened while I was on a break from the game. I did read news stories about it, but never the official posts, so I didn't quite get the full story. News sites didn't see fit to spell out the details about golden vs non-golden, so I missed that piece of the puzzle. I was still going by my knowledge of the old system.
Good to know -- thank you for pointing it out!
Happy to help. I got confused for a second lol
This should be true.