There's some highroll potential in this one, not sure if I like that.
I mean, if you want to pay 7 mana to take a very slim chance to high roll a King Krush or something, I think I'm probably okay with that. Seems fair enough. But it's a good point.
Terrible card. Stats worth 4 mana, so u need at least 3 mana beast to make it worthy (preferable 4 or more mana). For now u have 65 beasts in standard - 23 are 1-2 mana, 11 3 mana and over 3 mana u still have shitty cards like Hireek, Halazzi or Gral. Chances to get something good are below 50%. Compare this to Exotic Mountseller or Ram Wrangler.
There's some highroll potential in this one, not sure if I like that.
I mean, if you want to pay 7 mana to take a very slim chance to high roll a King Krush or something, I think I'm probably okay with that. Seems fair enough. But it's a good point.
I'd rather have a solid reliable card than a terribly statted one that has a 1/50 of winning the game or w/e. Trying to balance around absurd highrolls is generally bad design, IMO.
So bad it's not even worth the Epic card status. Even when considering the high roll potencial it has.
Rating cards on coolness factor rather than predicting power because I like screwing up rating averages (and because I suck at predicting real power levels, but we'll ignore that LUL) Wins per class (2/6/22): DH-197; Druid-996; Hunter-91«60; Mage-1056; Paladin-1126; Priest-746; Rogue-961; Shaman-1095; Warlock-871; Warrior-906
There's some highroll potential in this one, not sure if I like that.
I mean, if you want to pay 7 mana to take a very slim chance to high roll a King Krush or something, I think I'm probably okay with that. Seems fair enough. But it's a good point.
With Ram Wrangler I remember there were a lot of times I’d get a high roll from it, with around vanilla stats being the usual result. Don’t think there’s nearly enough bigger beasts for the effect to be worth it anymore though
A lot of Epics are trash. Biteweed, Forbidden Ancient, Glacial Mysteries (one of the very worst cards in the game), there's more. Just because it's an Epic doesn't make it good..
Right now (Rise of Shadows release) there are 64 beasts in standard.
Average cost of Beast minion is 4. Average attack and health of Beast minion is 3/3. This means in average this is something like 7 mana 7/7 in two bodies. Looking that way is quite meh. In arena is quite ok. But average is not telling us that much
31/64 Beasts have attack lower than 3. (0-2). So half of the time you will have no more than 2 attack. 44/64 Beasts have attack 3 or lower. So almost 70% of time you will have meh or worse result. 37/64 Beasts have health 3 or lower. Again more than half of the time (58%) you will have mediocre or worse result.
Ok so maybe not stats but some utility.
Taunt Only 6/64 of Beasts have Taunt. So that's lousy 9%. And from those Taunts only Witchwood Grizzly and Amani War Bear are good.
Charge Only 3 of all 64 Beasts (3/64 5%) have Charge. One of those is awesome (King Krush), one good but only if you have other Beasts, alone is just ok (Tundra Rhino) and one is joke (Stonetusk Boar).
Deathrattle Its not affecting board right away but at least it's some value. But only 5/64 of Beasts have Deathrattle. And even worse those are not good deathrattles. While Savannah Highmane is good one and Shimmerfly is ok (but low stats) rest are not doing much or even worse are good for your opponent (The Beast, but at least it have big stats)
Overall. Chance to roll something at least 5/5 (or higher) is low 12/64 (19%). Chance to have something decent being 1/5 is bad. And chance to high-roll into powerful 4 (Savannah Highmane, King Krush, Shirvallah, the Tiger, Oondasta) is even worse (4/64, 6%).
Right now sadly this minion is damn bad. In Arena it becomes quite ok something like 7 mana 6/6 in two bodies with low chance of high-roll and then being outstanding.
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this card is probably one of my favorite hearthstone arts. that steed is adorable!
but other than that there is not much I like about the card. there are too many beast that would be horrible pulls at 7 mana. and even when you get a good beast, at 7+ mana, just putting raw stats is often not good enough.
A lot of Epics are trash. Biteweed, Forbidden Ancient, Glacial Mysteries (one of the very worst cards in the game), there's more. Just because it's an Epic doesn't make it good..
Thanks for reminding me Glacial Mysteries exists! I need to go through my collection and DE any copies I have! That's 100 dust per copy I'm just sitting on
Quick! Someone give me something clever to write here.
One random Beast? Nope. Waaaayyy to likely to be really terrible. Terrible to the point that getting King Krush from it would be worthy of putting on YouTube. Might've been a little better if it was 'Discover a Beast'. Even then though, 7 mana 4/4....yeesh.
The card itsefl is really bad, because you'll likely get a mediocre Beast, which I don't really think you would like for 7 Mana. The highroll potential is there, but I bet you do not wanna pray for getting a big Beast.
...but the card might be a fringe card to include in Shudderwock if you value getting slightly more board presence.
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On the subject of the card itself, no one played Ram Wrangler and that was a slightly better version of this. True, it wasn't Neutral but if you really need random Beasts in your life then Exotic Mountseller is a waaaay better choice. Cheaper to craft too..
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Not a bad card, but nobody would ever use it in a Constructed deck.
Ram Wrangler
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Nope.
There's some highroll potential in this one, not sure if I like that.
I mean, if you want to pay 7 mana to take a very slim chance to high roll a King Krush or something, I think I'm probably okay with that. Seems fair enough. But it's a good point.
Terrible card. Stats worth 4 mana, so u need at least 3 mana beast to make it worthy (preferable 4 or more mana). For now u have 65 beasts in standard - 23 are 1-2 mana, 11 3 mana and over 3 mana u still have shitty cards like Hireek, Halazzi or Gral. Chances to get something good are below 50%. Compare this to Exotic Mountseller or Ram Wrangler.
What's the most powerful card in Hearthstone?
A credit card.
Probably a reluctant pick in Arena but not really something you'd want in standard. For 7-mana, you want more than simply a bunch of stats.
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This card is offensively bad for an epi
I'd rather have a solid reliable card than a terribly statted one that has a 1/50 of winning the game or w/e. Trying to balance around absurd highrolls is generally bad design, IMO.
1/5 Not good at all, could end up with a 1/1 beast or something similar
So bad it's not even worth the Epic card status. Even when considering the high roll potencial it has.
Rating cards on coolness factor rather than predicting power because I like screwing up rating averages (and because I suck at predicting real power levels, but we'll ignore that LUL)
Wins per class (2/6/22): DH-197; Druid-996; Hunter-91«60; Mage-1056; Paladin-1126; Priest-746; Rogue-961; Shaman-1095; Warlock-871; Warrior-906
With Ram Wrangler I remember there were a lot of times I’d get a high roll from it, with around vanilla stats being the usual result. Don’t think there’s nearly enough bigger beasts for the effect to be worth it anymore though
Who needs consistency when you could have fun?
And the chances of this lowrolling are even greater. Imagine summoning a 1- or a 2-cost beast; the risk is not worth the inclusion.
Hi, Shirvallah, the Tiger
A lot of Epics are trash. Biteweed, Forbidden Ancient, Glacial Mysteries (one of the very worst cards in the game), there's more. Just because it's an Epic doesn't make it good..
Cocked, locked and ready to rock...
Right now (Rise of Shadows release) there are 64 beasts in standard.
Average cost of Beast minion is 4.
Average attack and health of Beast minion is 3/3.
This means in average this is something like 7 mana 7/7 in two bodies. Looking that way is quite meh. In arena is quite ok.
But average is not telling us that much
31/64 Beasts have attack lower than 3. (0-2). So half of the time you will have no more than 2 attack.
44/64 Beasts have attack 3 or lower. So almost 70% of time you will have meh or worse result.
37/64 Beasts have health 3 or lower. Again more than half of the time (58%) you will have mediocre or worse result.
Ok so maybe not stats but some utility.
Taunt
Only 6/64 of Beasts have Taunt. So that's lousy 9%.
And from those Taunts only Witchwood Grizzly and Amani War Bear are good.
Rush
Its little better, as 11/64 (17%) of Beasts have Rush.
But again most of them are have lousy stats, only 4 are Good (Shirvallah, the Tiger, Oondasta, Akali, the Rhino, Amani War Bear) and Vilebrood Skitterer can be counted as ok one.
Charge
Only 3 of all 64 Beasts (3/64 5%) have Charge. One of those is awesome (King Krush), one good but only if you have other Beasts, alone is just ok (Tundra Rhino) and one is joke (Stonetusk Boar).
Deathrattle
Its not affecting board right away but at least it's some value. But only 5/64 of Beasts have Deathrattle. And even worse those are not good deathrattles. While Savannah Highmane is good one and Shimmerfly is ok (but low stats) rest are not doing much or even worse are good for your opponent (The Beast, but at least it have big stats)
Overall.
Chance to roll something at least 5/5 (or higher) is low 12/64 (19%). Chance to have something decent being 1/5 is bad. And chance to high-roll into powerful 4 (Savannah Highmane, King Krush, Shirvallah, the Tiger, Oondasta) is even worse (4/64, 6%).
Right now sadly this minion is damn bad. In Arena it becomes quite ok something like 7 mana 6/6 in two bodies with low chance of high-roll and then being outstanding.
this card is probably one of my favorite hearthstone arts. that steed is adorable!
but other than that there is not much I like about the card. there are too many beast that would be horrible pulls at 7 mana. and even when you get a good beast, at 7+ mana, just putting raw stats is often not good enough.
Carrion, my wayward grub.
Decent arena card.. That's it.
I know which of these extremes my opponent will get when playing this though...
Thanks for reminding me Glacial Mysteries exists! I need to go through my collection and DE any copies I have! That's 100 dust per copy I'm just sitting on
Quick! Someone give me something clever to write here.
Pack filler
One random Beast? Nope. Waaaayyy to likely to be really terrible. Terrible to the point that getting King Krush from it would be worthy of putting on YouTube. Might've been a little better if it was 'Discover a Beast'. Even then though, 7 mana 4/4....yeesh.
Of course I'll play it with Shudderwock and Mutate !
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maybe good for arena but for constructed not so much ...
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The card itsefl is really bad, because you'll likely get a mediocre Beast, which I don't really think you would like for 7 Mana. The highroll potential is there, but I bet you do not wanna pray for getting a big Beast.
...but the card might be a fringe card to include in Shudderwock if you value getting slightly more board presence.
"Truth is in the shadows, waiting to be revealed by the light. But light only disperses the shadow." - Me
"If other people shared traits of those considered naive, the world would've become a better place." - Also me
I was thinking something with Jepetto or potential battlecry combos in the future. the card is terrible but there should be a way to make use of it.
On the subject of the card itself, no one played Ram Wrangler and that was a slightly better version of this. True, it wasn't Neutral but if you really need random Beasts in your life then Exotic Mountseller is a waaaay better choice. Cheaper to craft too..
Cocked, locked and ready to rock...