I played one game as priest and it was against a demon hunter, it was long but I ran them out of resources for the win. I wish they had put this tavern brawl closer to the release of the expansion.
I will stress again how annoying it is that they did this brawl NOW and not 2 months ago..
It could be the BEST brawl.. if they did it.. you know.. on the first week or before release at least that way you get a geniune first experience of full decks before you go to craft stuff..
or maybe bring back whizbang? I never played that card but I really think they should incorporate either whizbang itself or a whizbang mechanic as a permanent feature I don't see why they let him rotate.. people really liked playing that card..
Yeah, it'd be nice if they'd done it earlier and I get what you're saying about Whizbang. But imagine if it WAS earlier and people crafted Libram Paladin cards based on this Brawl... let's just agree HS could still use some work when it comes to allowing experimentation and deckbuilding mistakes without feeling like you have to spend a lot of money.
Hmm. If yoink is so powerful that players are purposefully running high-synergy decks to counter it, then it might be a problem. I do think that having to play around all the cards in your deck as well isn't very fun, so I think it does need to be changed (to either reveal the cards drawn or draw the lowest-cost card)
Well yeah but not every card in your deck is “The Ruination”, and you can apply that same logic to drawing from your own deck. If you mean that yoink has a higher variance in outcomes than drawing from your own deck, then I would agree with you. To fix that, maybe it could be changed to draw the lowest-cost card from the enemy deck? That way it wouldn’t be able to give players late game bombs that they didn’t include in their deck.
Dude you should see mogwai rave about the mechanic, because card value is relative to context. For instance if I steal a ruination and that's exactly the card I need then the value can be considered to be 2x that of anything in my deck.
On average, a card from your opponent's deck will be worse than a card from your deck, so I think that it doesn't make sense to claim that yoinked cards are better than drawn cards. For every game in which your opponent yoinks a better than average card, in another game a player will yoink as worse than average card. The value of a card from the opponent's deck equals the average value of a card from their deck. In my opinion, the main issue is that drawing cards from the opponent's deck costs so much less than drawing cards from your deck. Since Pilfered Goods draws 2 cards for 2 Mana instead of 2 Cards for 4 Mana, Riot seems to evaluate cards drawn from the enemy deck as being worth 1 less Mana on average than cards from your deck, which I think is a little unrealistic. Honestly, the best solution is to make it so that the cards drawn are revealed, in order to reduce the value of the card drawn while keeping Bilgewater's ability to draw for cheap.
Hey so I thought it would be fun to run through a single game vs tempo yoink and outline every card that was stolen and the role it played in winning the game for the opponent, and how their absence of said cards would have resulted in a loss. Keep in mind yoinked cards are not revealed so I have to assume they can be playing any card from my deck so that doubles the number of variables to play around than your average game.
1. A harsh winds is stolen, nullifying an attack to kill a sejuani
2. A glimpse is stolen to nullify a vengence targeting a sejuani and drawing the opponent 2
3. A buffed hearth guard is stolen, buffing my opponent entire deck and providing a 6/6 body
4. A buffed sentry is stolen providing the opponent 1 draw and a 4/3 body for 2
5. A babbling berg is stolen tutoring for a sejuani
The plays made by the opponent were rather low impact relative to the card advantage and control answers provided by my own deck
So I look forward to the get good scrub, dark souls logic, but in those games you don't get your sword stolen only for the boss to stab you with it.
In fairness, 41.9% win rate in a Tavern Brawl is fine. It is high enough that it feels like you have a reasonable chance in each game, and you'd only really notice the sub-50% win rate if there was something tracking it, which there isn't.
If Casual was filled with decks that have a 40% win rate on ladder, I'd be messing around enjoying HS quite a bit more than I do with the status quo...
I will stress again how annoying it is that they did this brawl NOW and not 2 months ago..
It could be the BEST brawl.. if they did it.. you know.. on the first week or before release at least that way you get a geniune first experience of full decks before you go to craft stuff..
or maybe bring back whizbang? I never played that card but I really think they should incorporate either whizbang itself or a whizbang mechanic as a permanent feature I don't see why they let him rotate.. people really liked playing that card..
According to sound files that were datamined, the evidence suggests Mt. Targon is next up. I'm personally very excited, because my favorite champion - Leona - is on the list!
I was missing Spiritsinger Umbra for a few months now. To make things worse, I'm stupid and used to dust my rotating cards so I have basically zero Ungoro legendarys. Nevertheless, I decided to buy some packs with gold, 3 Ungoros among them. First pack: boom! Spiritsinger Umbra. It's really crazy because that worked with Bloodreaver Gul'dan a few weeks ago as well.
I know Searing Totem exists, but that's kind of the exception, not a standard.
If I recall correctly it shoots fire at things so that's why it has attack without being infused or a construct. It's just a totem with a flame thrower. You can tell how it attacks a bit easier in the full art for it.
I updated the cards and added a new one, Expert Totem Crafter, which can help you amp up your Totems and also give your board a bit of stability.
One card I thought about adding was Thunder Bluff Valiant, but I decided not to because of all of the Passive Hero Powers. Do you think he would be a good inclusion?
For one, if you get premium, you can get high rank stats for decks. As for the reason I believe it's featured here, it's likely the best deck in the format.
What Decks are Performing the Best in This Week's Tavern Brawl 'An Outlandish Recipe'
I played one game as priest and it was against a demon hunter, it was long but I ran them out of resources for the win. I wish they had put this tavern brawl closer to the release of the expansion.
What Decks are Performing the Best in This Week's Tavern Brawl 'An Outlandish Recipe'
Yeah, it'd be nice if they'd done it earlier and I get what you're saying about Whizbang. But imagine if it WAS earlier and people crafted Libram Paladin cards based on this Brawl... let's just agree HS could still use some work when it comes to allowing experimentation and deckbuilding mistakes without feeling like you have to spend a lot of money.
Has Yoink Gone Too Far?
Hmm. If yoink is so powerful that players are purposefully running high-synergy decks to counter it, then it might be a problem. I do think that having to play around all the cards in your deck as well isn't very fun, so I think it does need to be changed (to either reveal the cards drawn or draw the lowest-cost card)
Has Yoink Gone Too Far?
It's become enough of an issue that streamers are running deep just so that they steal toss cards which are awful for the opponent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYHmPTL6qv4
Has Yoink Gone Too Far?
Well yeah but not every card in your deck is “The Ruination”, and you can apply that same logic to drawing from your own deck. If you mean that yoink has a higher variance in outcomes than drawing from your own deck, then I would agree with you. To fix that, maybe it could be changed to draw the lowest-cost card from the enemy deck? That way it wouldn’t be able to give players late game bombs that they didn’t include in their deck.
Has Yoink Gone Too Far?
Dude you should see mogwai rave about the mechanic, because card value is relative to context. For instance if I steal a ruination and that's exactly the card I need then the value can be considered to be 2x that of anything in my deck.
Has Yoink Gone Too Far?
On average, a card from your opponent's deck will be worse than a card from your deck, so I think that it doesn't make sense to claim that yoinked cards are better than drawn cards. For every game in which your opponent yoinks a better than average card, in another game a player will yoink as worse than average card. The value of a card from the opponent's deck equals the average value of a card from their deck. In my opinion, the main issue is that drawing cards from the opponent's deck costs so much less than drawing cards from your deck. Since Pilfered Goods draws 2 cards for 2 Mana instead of 2 Cards for 4 Mana, Riot seems to evaluate cards drawn from the enemy deck as being worth 1 less Mana on average than cards from your deck, which I think is a little unrealistic. Honestly, the best solution is to make it so that the cards drawn are revealed, in order to reduce the value of the card drawn while keeping Bilgewater's ability to draw for cheap.
Has Yoink Gone Too Far?
Hey so I thought it would be fun to run through a single game vs tempo yoink and outline every card that was stolen and the role it played in winning the game for the opponent, and how their absence of said cards would have resulted in a loss. Keep in mind yoinked cards are not revealed so I have to assume they can be playing any card from my deck so that doubles the number of variables to play around than your average game.
1. A harsh winds is stolen, nullifying an attack to kill a sejuani
2. A glimpse is stolen to nullify a vengence targeting a sejuani and drawing the opponent 2
3. A buffed hearth guard is stolen, buffing my opponent entire deck and providing a 6/6 body
4. A buffed sentry is stolen providing the opponent 1 draw and a 4/3 body for 2
5. A babbling berg is stolen tutoring for a sejuani
The plays made by the opponent were rather low impact relative to the card advantage and control answers provided by my own deck
So I look forward to the get good scrub, dark souls logic, but in those games you don't get your sword stolen only for the boss to stab you with it.
D-A-M-A-G-E - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread
Submissions are closed: good luck everyone in the voting :)
What Decks are Performing the Best in This Week's Tavern Brawl 'An Outlandish Recipe'
In fairness, 41.9% win rate in a Tavern Brawl is fine. It is high enough that it feels like you have a reasonable chance in each game, and you'd only really notice the sub-50% win rate if there was something tracking it, which there isn't.
If Casual was filled with decks that have a 40% win rate on ladder, I'd be messing around enjoying HS quite a bit more than I do with the status quo...
Silverback Patriarch OTK!
Hilarious video!
(Paraphrasing) “Obviously Silverback Patriarch is the best/only choice!” I love how the first game went so wrong, but you still got the win.
next weekly vault
The vault day should be Tuesday as usual. The change happens with patch 1.5 (the upcoming being 1.4). It was mentioned on this article.
next weekly vault
when it will be ? I read somewhere that it was on Thursday this week instead than the usual Tuesday ... Tks
Season of Fortune, Gauntlets, Labs, Events and More Coming to Legends of Runeterra
Oh, you're right, I forgot that article.
I read about the lore, but I'm new to the land of Runeterra. So, Im excited to discover anything in this universe. ;-) Mt. Targon then.
What Decks are Performing the Best in This Week's Tavern Brawl 'An Outlandish Recipe'
I will stress again how annoying it is that they did this brawl NOW and not 2 months ago..
It could be the BEST brawl.. if they did it.. you know.. on the first week or before release at least that way you get a geniune first experience of full decks before you go to craft stuff..
or maybe bring back whizbang? I never played that card but I really think they should incorporate either whizbang itself or a whizbang mechanic as a permanent feature I don't see why they let him rotate.. people really liked playing that card..
Season of Fortune, Gauntlets, Labs, Events and More Coming to Legends of Runeterra
According to sound files that were datamined, the evidence suggests Mt. Targon is next up. I'm personally very excited, because my favorite champion - Leona - is on the list!
The Pepper Thread - Share Some Good Vibes!
I was missing Spiritsinger Umbra for a few months now. To make things worse, I'm stupid and used to dust my rotating cards so I have basically zero Ungoro legendarys. Nevertheless, I decided to buy some packs with gold, 3 Ungoros among them. First pack: boom! Spiritsinger Umbra. It's really crazy because that worked with Bloodreaver Gul'dan a few weeks ago as well.
"A critical error has occurred and the process must be terminated."
That sounds awful.
I can't think of anything beyond standard protocol, namely:
Beyond that, I'd try Riot support. They can be a little slow to respond, but they are generally fairly helpful.
Quest Trading - Play A Friend!
Battletag: Slappy#2236
Region: US
Trade Only?: Yes, you go first, i will show
Custom Battlegrounds tribe: Totems!
If I recall correctly it shoots fire at things so that's why it has attack without being infused or a construct. It's just a totem with a flame thrower. You can tell how it attacks a bit easier in the full art for it.
Raza the Chained
Pog we did it
A Wild Hearthstone Weekend Featuring Silverback OTK, Pirate Warrior, Pirate Rogue, and More!
Thanks for the highlight :)
More fun decks this week as usual. Keep up the good work everyone
Custom Battlegrounds tribe: Totems!
I updated the cards and added a new one, Expert Totem Crafter, which can help you amp up your Totems and also give your board a bit of stability.
One card I thought about adding was Thunder Bluff Valiant, but I decided not to because of all of the Passive Hero Powers. Do you think he would be a good inclusion?
A Wild Hearthstone Weekend Featuring Silverback OTK, Pirate Warrior, Pirate Rogue, and More!
For one, if you get premium, you can get high rank stats for decks. As for the reason I believe it's featured here, it's likely the best deck in the format.
Did D&D Beyond Remove the Runeterra 'Dark Tides of Bilgewater' Campaign Due to Wizards of the Coast's Magic the Gathering
In a perfect world people do things for the fans... This isn't a perfect world tho.