I didn't know Team RankStar is taking form elsewhere, it's good to know, thanks.
I still think VS reports are better, because they are data-based, but since they make Wild Reports only every now and then, it's always good to hear the opinion of dedicated Wild players trying to write up regular reports in a team (individual reports are inevitably biased IMO, at least a team can give a more reliable insight, even if their tiers might not actually represent the reality of the meta).
I am aware that it is listed as B-tier deck. But those lists are based on picks from streamers, and I made a point of saying that the data I'm using to inform that list is the raw data on the site. I'm not particularly interested in the ranked order offered up by two streamers. And I am also aware that it's not hugely popular right now - play rate is around 2%. But that does not make it a bad deck in terms of how it performs.
Vicious Syndicate is the way to go, those guys really know their stuff. Their suggested builds for meta decks are very effective as well.
I really don't trust HS Replay, their meta picture isn't very accurate. For example, it ranks Murloc Paladin as a Tier 1 deck when in reality it's close to Tier 3.
I just read Vicious Syndicate for data-based reports.
I used to read Team Rankstar too, but that's not there anymore.
HSR is a good website for glimpses here and there on raw dat, but Wild is not very well covered, especially if you don't have Gold subscription.
You know rankstar will be back on a new website right? They partnered with someone else. I don't remember who though.
@OP: hsreplay is best used for mulligan statistics. Which cards to keep and which not.
ViciousSyndicate.com have the best standard meta reports. They also do a wild report every now and then if you're interested.
If you're interested in wild, check Renojackson hs' Twitter account. He's busy making a new form of meta reports for the format and his team has always covered that format the best.
Tempostorm is generally not a very reliable source. They often seem to base rankings on their gut feeling rather than actual analysis. ViciousSyndicate are more reliable in that regard and usually more accurate.
They are totally vanity and I love it. I really liked the article(s) that went into detail on how the card backs are designed. I think I appreciate them a bit more now.
I really love reading about Wild decks, I just would like to see some stats. I crafted a deck from an article like this a while ago and got ROFL stomped. When the deck performed, it performed well. But that was the thing, it was really unpredictable.
Seriously, Nifty, please stop with the extra new lines and arbitrary text centering. Your posts are so hard to read....Also, the region name is "Noxus" not "Noxious." And one last thing here (though I'm sure I could find more) - it's not "R and G," it's "RNG" - it stands for "Random Number Generator" and is used as a reference to how software creates pseudo-randomness.
Your tier list is obviously wrong - Freljord is still by far the worst region in the game, Shadow Isles and Ionia are still the best, and Demacia is certainly well above last. Just looking at the top region combos on Mobalytics (not the tier list, just the meta stats), here are the top seven decks in terms of win rates in order:
Kinkou Elusives
Burn Aggro
Deep Sea Monsters
Demacia Bannerman
Yasuo Control
They Who Endure/Atrocity
Sej/Vlad Crimson
So, in terms of win rate, the only Freljord deck on that list shows up at 7th. Technically the first and sixth decks include Freljord, but they include very few Freljord cards...Omen Hawk and Elixir of Iron for the first, Avarosan Sentry and They Who Endure for the second. Neither is really a Freljord deck. And the unusual cut-off point I chose - "top 7" - was to get a real Freljord deck into the list. Continuing down the list by win rate, and the next deck to feature Freljord is in 15th place and is more like Kinkou Elusives in terms of how many Freljord cards show up in the deck list.
What I think you're seeing is a spike in play rate of Freljord decks, and you're misinterpreting that as a major tier boost. Taking that same data on Mobalytics and sorting by play rate, it's clear that Sejuani paired with Noxus or Bilgewater is very popular right now. Together these make up nearly 20% of the games since patch 1.2, so you're certainly going to see a lot of Freljord on ladder.
But while these are decently strong decks, they're not the best decks in the game, and Freljord isn't really the star of the show. The Freljord/Noxus decks use Swain or Vladimir as their win conditions, and the Freljord/Bilgewater decks care a lot more about stealing enough of your cards to make a cohesive win condition - the Freljord deck-buffing they feature is a nice-to-have but is also a potential liability in mirror matches.
What this data does show is that Sejuani is a powerful standalone card, not unlike Vi, and the nerfs to aggro and Vi as well as the buff to Vladimir made her an appealing tool for removal and Nexus damage. But that doesn't make Freljord a strong region.
Non premium HsReplays is completely useless, even premium has huge deck recognition problems. Winrate calculation methods are misleading. Use it for some general info and mulligan.
Metastats is obsolete.
Tempostorm is completely false and random, no data, just biased feelings. Wild meta reports are slightly more useful, because nobody does much better with low wild data.
Vs is the way to go. The most comprehensive methods of data interpretation (expected winrates...). The only minor issue if you don't follow their live data is that reports are a week old.
Teamrankstar is now transitioning and it's a good place for wild info.
Wild is perfectly predictable. It had its own meta and being skilled means you know it and know most of the prevalent decks and what to expect from your opponent.
Just like in standard.
Of course it's predictable if you are used to play Wild. If you don't know the meta and you have no experience in the matchups, then you are at a disadvantage. It does not sound like the best plan to reach legend if you didn't in Standard.
Wild is perfectly predictable. It had its own meta and being skilled means you know it and know most of the prevalent decks and what to expect from your opponent.
I think malygos quest warlock was only a thing literally a week ago. Even malygos druid, a viable alternative to spell druid, made it to several lists a weeks ago as well, and who'd ever knew that rogue looked so shaky throughout this week's run. Let's not forget shaxy's priest, which although I thought was absolute garbage, can actually hold its own against questlock and druid, which was probably why he brought that lineup in the first place.
Though we are more or less assured that dhunters and warrior will be there, with a warrior ban 90% of the time, I wouldn't go so far as to say that every week's identical without any change.
Yeah, I've been rerolling any 1000 I get, and I'm surprised at how many we already have. I suspect there are still some 1500 variants we don't have, but that will be slow going.
My first reaction is that this card shouldn't have regeneration because it's a Noxus card. The Freljord is the only region with a follower that has regeneration, and while Riot seems reticent to print regeneration units (there's only five in the whole game), I do think that thematically any new regeneration followers belong in the Freljord.
You call out the fact that your new Crimson card's skill might be denied, but that seems very unlikely on turn 1 or 2. Not to mention the play effect can give you ~33% toward Vlad's level up if you use it on an ally, and 25% for Swain. Vlad and Swain are already not that hard to upgrade, and getting this level of consistency for very early level up would probably be bad for the game.
Crimson decks already have access to a perfectly good 1 drops drop in the form of Unscarred Reaver when you're pairing with Freljord and Cithria of Cloudfield or even Plucky Poro with Demacia (the two most likely regions to pair it with) because all of these units can survive small amount of damage and synergize with your other damage dealing cards. If you're not running any of these in your Crimson deck, you're making a conscious choice not to. The game is about pairing regions together to mix and match their strengths/weaknesses. Noxus is a region that wants to play aggressively, and its early game plays reflect that. It does not need any changing.
Where do you get information about meta reports, deck winrates and so?
I didn't know Team RankStar is taking form elsewhere, it's good to know, thanks.
I still think VS reports are better, because they are data-based, but since they make Wild Reports only every now and then, it's always good to hear the opinion of dedicated Wild players trying to write up regular reports in a team (individual reports are inevitably biased IMO, at least a team can give a more reliable insight, even if their tiers might not actually represent the reality of the meta).
The New Region Tier List Post Patch 1.2
I am aware that it is listed as B-tier deck. But those lists are based on picks from streamers, and I made a point of saying that the data I'm using to inform that list is the raw data on the site. I'm not particularly interested in the ranked order offered up by two streamers. And I am also aware that it's not hugely popular right now - play rate is around 2%. But that does not make it a bad deck in terms of how it performs.
Where do you get information about meta reports, deck winrates and so?
Vicious Syndicate is the way to go, those guys really know their stuff. Their suggested builds for meta decks are very effective as well.
I really don't trust HS Replay, their meta picture isn't very accurate. For example, it ranks Murloc Paladin as a Tier 1 deck when in reality it's close to Tier 3.
The New Region Tier List Post Patch 1.2
This is the most up to date net decking you can do from a pro player and it's 10 days old.
It's based on play rates, and we see burn at 17 percent that's why it got nerfed.
This is the difference between people who play a game and those who blindly follow what they read online.
They wouldn't even realize that things have hugely shifted after the patch.
Elusives is nowhere to be seen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym9uOFpBwt8
Where do you get information about meta reports, deck winrates and so?
You know rankstar will be back on a new website right? They partnered with someone else. I don't remember who though.
@OP: hsreplay is best used for mulligan statistics. Which cards to keep and which not.
ViciousSyndicate.com have the best standard meta reports. They also do a wild report every now and then if you're interested.
If you're interested in wild, check Renojackson hs' Twitter account. He's busy making a new form of meta reports for the format and his team has always covered that format the best.
Tempostorm is generally not a very reliable source. They often seem to base rankings on their gut feeling rather than actual analysis. ViciousSyndicate are more reliable in that regard and usually more accurate.
The New Region Tier List Post Patch 1.2
Kinkou Elusives is a B-tier on this site dude.
https://lor.mobalytics.gg/en_us/meta-tier-list
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They are totally vanity and I love it. I really liked the article(s) that went into detail on how the card backs are designed. I think I appreciate them a bit more now.
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I really love reading about Wild decks, I just would like to see some stats. I crafted a deck from an article like this a while ago and got ROFL stomped. When the deck performed, it performed well. But that was the thing, it was really unpredictable.
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The New Region Tier List Post Patch 1.2
Dude I'm sorry but elusives is not a deck that people run in this game at any tier.
Go to swims site if you want to net deck, but he wouldn't have updated for post patch yet.
The New Region Tier List Post Patch 1.2
Seriously, Nifty, please stop with the extra new lines and arbitrary text centering. Your posts are so hard to read....Also, the region name is "Noxus" not "Noxious." And one last thing here (though I'm sure I could find more) - it's not "R and G," it's "RNG" - it stands for "Random Number Generator" and is used as a reference to how software creates pseudo-randomness.
Your tier list is obviously wrong - Freljord is still by far the worst region in the game, Shadow Isles and Ionia are still the best, and Demacia is certainly well above last. Just looking at the top region combos on Mobalytics (not the tier list, just the meta stats), here are the top seven decks in terms of win rates in order:
So, in terms of win rate, the only Freljord deck on that list shows up at 7th. Technically the first and sixth decks include Freljord, but they include very few Freljord cards...Omen Hawk and Elixir of Iron for the first, Avarosan Sentry and They Who Endure for the second. Neither is really a Freljord deck. And the unusual cut-off point I chose - "top 7" - was to get a real Freljord deck into the list. Continuing down the list by win rate, and the next deck to feature Freljord is in 15th place and is more like Kinkou Elusives in terms of how many Freljord cards show up in the deck list.
What I think you're seeing is a spike in play rate of Freljord decks, and you're misinterpreting that as a major tier boost. Taking that same data on Mobalytics and sorting by play rate, it's clear that Sejuani paired with Noxus or Bilgewater is very popular right now. Together these make up nearly 20% of the games since patch 1.2, so you're certainly going to see a lot of Freljord on ladder.
But while these are decently strong decks, they're not the best decks in the game, and Freljord isn't really the star of the show. The Freljord/Noxus decks use Swain or Vladimir as their win conditions, and the Freljord/Bilgewater decks care a lot more about stealing enough of your cards to make a cohesive win condition - the Freljord deck-buffing they feature is a nice-to-have but is also a potential liability in mirror matches.
What this data does show is that Sejuani is a powerful standalone card, not unlike Vi, and the nerfs to aggro and Vi as well as the buff to Vladimir made her an appealing tool for removal and Nexus damage. But that doesn't make Freljord a strong region.
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Where do you get information about meta reports, deck winrates and so?
I just read the Reddit and see what class/deck people are complaining about the most and go from there.
Where do you get information about meta reports, deck winrates and so?
Non premium HsReplays is completely useless, even premium has huge deck recognition problems. Winrate calculation methods are misleading. Use it for some general info and mulligan.
Metastats is obsolete.
Tempostorm is completely false and random, no data, just biased feelings. Wild meta reports are slightly more useful, because nobody does much better with low wild data.
Vs is the way to go. The most comprehensive methods of data interpretation (expected winrates...). The only minor issue if you don't follow their live data is that reports are a week old.
Teamrankstar is now transitioning and it's a good place for wild info.
Stuck at Diamond 5. Like, really stuck.
Of course it's predictable if you are used to play Wild. If you don't know the meta and you have no experience in the matchups, then you are at a disadvantage. It does not sound like the best plan to reach legend if you didn't in Standard.
Stuck at Diamond 5. Like, really stuck.
Wild is perfectly predictable. It had its own meta and being skilled means you know it and know most of the prevalent decks and what to expect from your opponent.
Just like in standard.
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Invest money. Even if you manage to get gold from won games it takes at least 12 hours in four days hours to farm it. Plus its not really fun.
Don't know what your profession is but imagine you'd work for the same amount of time.
How much would you make? If its more than the equivalent of 1000 gold which I honestly hope just go for this instead.
Hearthstone Grandmasters 2020 Season 1 - Week 7 Recap
I think malygos quest warlock was only a thing literally a week ago. Even malygos druid, a viable alternative to spell druid, made it to several lists a weeks ago as well, and who'd ever knew that rogue looked so shaky throughout this week's run. Let's not forget shaxy's priest, which although I thought was absolute garbage, can actually hold its own against questlock and druid, which was probably why he brought that lineup in the first place.
Though we are more or less assured that dhunters and warrior will be there, with a warrior ban 90% of the time, I wouldn't go so far as to say that every week's identical without any change.
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Yeah, I've been rerolling any 1000 I get, and I'm surprised at how many we already have. I suspect there are still some 1500 variants we don't have, but that will be slow going.
1 Drop Crimson Card?
My first reaction is that this card shouldn't have regeneration because it's a Noxus card. The Freljord is the only region with a follower that has regeneration, and while Riot seems reticent to print regeneration units (there's only five in the whole game), I do think that thematically any new regeneration followers belong in the Freljord.
You call out the fact that your new Crimson card's skill might be denied, but that seems very unlikely on turn 1 or 2. Not to mention the play effect can give you ~33% toward Vlad's level up if you use it on an ally, and 25% for Swain. Vlad and Swain are already not that hard to upgrade, and getting this level of consistency for very early level up would probably be bad for the game.
Crimson decks already have access to a perfectly good 1 drops drop in the form of Unscarred Reaver when you're pairing with Freljord and Cithria of Cloudfield or even Plucky Poro with Demacia (the two most likely regions to pair it with) because all of these units can survive small amount of damage and synergize with your other damage dealing cards. If you're not running any of these in your Crimson deck, you're making a conscious choice not to. The game is about pairing regions together to mix and match their strengths/weaknesses. Noxus is a region that wants to play aggressively, and its early game plays reflect that. It does not need any changing.
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Where do you get information about meta reports, deck winrates and so?
I just read Vicious Syndicate for data-based reports.
I used to read Team Rankstar too, but that's not there anymore.
HSR is a good website for glimpses here and there on raw dat, but Wild is not very well covered, especially if you don't have Gold subscription.