This thread aims to help new creators to know when to use certain keywords. In order to do this, we will classify all existing keywords in different classes, according to the sets where they can be used. So far, Blizzard has only broken these rules twice, so if you want to make a believable card, following them is surely a good place to start.
@Mods, if you believe this post should be included in the Fan Creations Primer thread, go ahead :)
These keywords were introduced in a particular expansion, but have also appeared in later sets. If previous cards had that effect, they are modified to include the keyword (see Emperor Cobra or Queen of Pain)
Poisonous is included in the Basic set in the HoF replacement Plaguebringer. This sets a precedent for using Evergreen keywords in that set, although I don't think Discover would fit the Basic set.
These keywords only exist in the expansion they are introduced. If previous of later sets include cards with similar effects, they are worded explicitly (see how Meat Wagon and Captain Hooktusk don't use Recruit, even if their effect is just that).
Before the introduction of SN1P-SN4P, Echo used to belong to this category.
Year-exclusive keywords
Extensive list: Echo, Lackey.
These keywords can appear in all cards of a certain Year. While Lackey was a year-exclusive keyword by design, the inclusion of Echo in this category is more or less accidental, since the only card that doesn't belong to The Witchwood with this keyword is SN1P-SN4P.
Recurring keywords
Extensive list: Mega-Windfury, Quest, Choose a Deathrattle, Casts When Drawn, Choose Twice, Start of Game.
These keywords appear in expansions from time to time. All of them are very different in nature, however:
Mega-Windfury has only appeared in two cards in total and has always been a very marginal part of the expansion.
Quest, on the other hand, has always been one of the core aspects of the expansions they appear in.
Casts When Drawn is a token-exclusive keyword.
Choose a Deathrattle and Choose Twice are variations of the Druid-exclusive keyword Choose One. For synergy purposes (like Ossirian Tear), Choose a Deathrattle is considered a Choose One card, while Choose Twice isn't.
Start of Game was a core aspect in The Witchwood. The appearance of this keyword modified the text of a previously existing card, Prince Malchezaar.
I upvoted your post, but c'mon, it's not that bad. I have seen many people with much worst luck than you when opening packs in these forums through all this years and many of them are still playing Hearthstone (and visiting the forums, obviously). But still, good luck for the next time, and please, remember to NOT pray to Yogg-Saron!!! I'm not gonna do it again, that is for sure... ;) ;) ;)
It was a seriously bad choice before Anka was a thing and it hasn't changed since then. Played against another rogue player who used it and all you accomplish is performing a double-edged hack slash to your own win condition as well. Unless you, by some miracle, draw only cheap spells (That aren't cycle spells) then you conceded the game by making it so that you have to spend all of those other cards while taking fatigue before you can win.
I may be missing something here but, why have Fandral if completing the quest gives you a passive version of what he offers? Is it just as an aggro target for opponents to waste things on since it doesn't matter?
Not every player gets the bundle or saves up gold for every expansion guys. Day one decks are not for everyone.
I can understand players not buying the bundles (I used to be f2p for years before transitioning to a paying customer), but not saving up gold? That's just lazy and on the fault of the players who don't save and/or complete their dailies
I actually opened a High Priest Amet, but I missed on some of the commons I have in this list. I don't like crafting commons, so when I get a chance to start playing later, I will probably play with a somewhat different list from what I have posted here. And I'll probably include the High Priest. Maybe quartz elementals as well. I did open 2 holy ripples and at least one neferset ritualist, so that's good. I have most of the cards posted here, but not all, so initial testing will be a bit different from this list. I do like the idea of Psychopomp; and you are probably right that the farseers are the weakest card in this list.
After like 10 matches using Whizbang against a friend of mine, who was trying out the new Quest hunter.
Rogue's Hooked Scimitar is super-duper rad with the pirate package.
Quest Hunter performs really good against a wide board [beat Whizbang's Murloc Shaman 0-3] but struggles against control decks [Big Warrior, Heal Druid]. The Zoo Warlock that I got also beat him once. I think I'm in love with the new Rogue weapon right now.
I've played 5 matches at rank 9 against the same stupid Mech Hunter deck we've been facing for the past 3 months. How can people not want to try out the new cards but instead play the same shit they've been playing all year?
I'm gonna try Slysssa's Quest Malygos Druid and Alliestrasza's Quest Shudderwock Shaman, not only because I like the decks, but also because they are made by cute female streamers who deserve more recognition... Of course, I already upvoted both. :) :) :)
I've only seen one Quest Druid, one Quest Hunter, two tempo Rogues (one with and one without the quest) and last meta decks, Bomb Warriror and Big Shaman. It's mainly been Highlander Mage and Quest Priest that I keep seeing on ladder.
If you think that he only farted then you are still young my sweet summerchild. What he did...had more...substance
Also...green/black?Really? Golgari??BOW DOWN TO YOUR GRIXIS OVERLORDS YOU PLEB!
Meh... The Golgari Swarm is by far one of the best things in MtG, and while I also appreciate guilds like House Dimir (Blue/Black) and the Izzet League (Red/Blue) from Ravnica, Grixis scum don't have any place in my hearth. XD XD XD
I'm one of the aforementioned Quest Druids lel; been using the deck recipe for now. When I'm not playing that I too have used Whizbang...and gotten the Quest Druid again.
I've been running into a disappointing number of Token Druids and other old decks, even in Casual. "I'm gonna take advantage of people experimenting by playing the same stuff I know is good." Sounds like a winning strategy, to be fair, but it's disheartening :(
Keyword usage guide
Greetings, travelers!
This thread aims to help new creators to know when to use certain keywords. In order to do this, we will classify all existing keywords in different classes, according to the sets where they can be used. So far, Blizzard has only broken these rules twice, so if you want to make a believable card, following them is surely a good place to start.
@Mods, if you believe this post should be included in the Fan Creations Primer thread, go ahead :)
Basic keywords
Extensive list: Battlecry, Charge, Divine Shield, Freeze, Spell Damage, Taunt.
These keywords can appear in any set, including the Basic set.
Classic keywords
Extensive list: Choose One, Combo, Counter, Deathrattle, Immune, Overload, Secret, Silence, Stealth, Windfury.
These keywords can appear in every set, except Basic. They expand the Basic ruleset to make Hearthstone more rich and complex.
Evergreen keywords
Extensive list: Discover, Poisonous, Lifesteal, Rush.
These keywords were introduced in a particular expansion, but have also appeared in later sets. If previous cards had that effect, they are modified to include the keyword (see Emperor Cobra or Queen of Pain)
Expansion-exclusive keywords
Extensive list: Spare Part, Inspire, Jade Golem, Adapt, Death Knight, Recruit, Echo, Magnetic, Overkill, Twinspell, Reborn.
These keywords only exist in the expansion they are introduced. If previous of later sets include cards with similar effects, they are worded explicitly (see how Meat Wagon and Captain Hooktusk don't use Recruit, even if their effect is just that).
Year-exclusive keywords
Extensive list: Echo, Lackey.
These keywords can appear in all cards of a certain Year. While Lackey was a year-exclusive keyword by design, the inclusion of Echo in this category is more or less accidental, since the only card that doesn't belong to The Witchwood with this keyword is SN1P-SN4P.
Recurring keywords
Extensive list: Mega-Windfury, Quest, Choose a Deathrattle, Casts When Drawn, Choose Twice, Start of Game.
These keywords appear in expansions from time to time. All of them are very different in nature, however:
How'd Your Pack Opening Haul Go?
I got a golden Zephyr and Reno
i'm very happy
Yogg Saron’s wishing well.
I upvoted your post, but c'mon, it's not that bad. I have seen many people with much worst luck than you when opening packs in these forums through all this years and many of them are still playing Hearthstone (and visiting the forums, obviously). But still, good luck for the next time, and please, remember to NOT pray to Yogg-Saron!!! I'm not gonna do it again, that is for sure... ;) ;) ;)
Stop running Myra's in Mecha'Thun Rogue
It was a seriously bad choice before Anka was a thing and it hasn't changed since then. Played against another rogue player who used it and all you accomplish is performing a double-edged hack slash to your own win condition as well. Unless you, by some miracle, draw only cheap spells (That aren't cycle spells) then you conceded the game by making it so that you have to spend all of those other cards while taking fatigue before you can win.
Gazlowe Can't Choose One!
I may be missing something here but, why have Fandral if completing the quest gives you a passive version of what he offers? Is it just as an aggro target for opponents to waste things on since it doesn't matter?
Edit: Fixed typo
Knee-jerk reaction to day one ladder (SoU)
I can understand players not buying the bundles (I used to be f2p for years before transitioning to a paying customer), but not saving up gold? That's just lazy and on the fault of the players who don't save and/or complete their dailies
Saviors of Uldum Streamer & Pro Decks
Any quest paladin decks?
Saviors of Uldum Streamer & Pro Decks
Whizbanging all the way, here. Not sure how good the decks are, but they're pretty fun!
How'd Your Pack Opening Haul Go?
NA:
62 packs
5 Legendaries
13 epics
EU:
100 packs (won a 50 pack bundle on a stream)
8 Legendaries
21 epics
Asia:
62 packs
4 Legendaries
12 epics
Not including free legendaries, bundle legendary
[GA] At a Bazaar with Tess Greymane
Thats great! :) Iv been playing it myself today a bit and i had some fun games, most of which i even won :)))
Knee-jerk reaction to day one ladder (SoU)
Not every player gets the bundle or saves up gold for every expansion guys. Day one decks are not for everyone.
Uldum Heal Priest
I actually opened a High Priest Amet, but I missed on some of the commons I have in this list. I don't like crafting commons, so when I get a chance to start playing later, I will probably play with a somewhat different list from what I have posted here. And I'll probably include the High Priest. Maybe quartz elementals as well. I did open 2 holy ripples and at least one neferset ritualist, so that's good. I have most of the cards posted here, but not all, so initial testing will be a bit different from this list. I do like the idea of Psychopomp; and you are probably right that the farseers are the weakest card in this list.
Knee-jerk reaction to day one ladder (SoU)
After like 10 matches using Whizbang against a friend of mine, who was trying out the new Quest hunter.
Rogue's Hooked Scimitar is super-duper rad with the pirate package.
Quest Hunter performs really good against a wide board [beat Whizbang's Murloc Shaman 0-3] but struggles against control decks [Big Warrior, Heal Druid]. The Zoo Warlock that I got also beat him once. I think I'm in love with the new Rogue weapon right now.
Knee-jerk reaction to day one ladder (SoU)
I've played 5 matches at rank 9 against the same stupid Mech Hunter deck we've been facing for the past 3 months. How can people not want to try out the new cards but instead play the same shit they've been playing all year?
Saviors of Uldum Launch Survival Guide - Everything You Need to Know + Theorycraft Decks
Poop, just realized there was no launch week $10 bundle :(
Battlecry Dragon Shaman
Alright, you've convinced me that Lifedrinkers should be in the deck.
How'd Your Pack Opening Haul Go?
4 legendaries in 70 packs. 1st legendary (besides free one) was Zephrys the Great
How'd Your Pack Opening Haul Go?
120 packs opened.
Untapped Potential
Dinotamer Brann
Making Mummies
Activate the Obelisk
Bazaar Burglary
Vessina (golden)
Supreme Archaeology
Zephrys the Great (golden)
Dark Pharaoh Tekahn
Octosari (golden)
Colossus of the Moon
I got a negative for my results???
Saviors of Uldum Streamer & Pro Decks
I'm gonna try Slysssa's Quest Malygos Druid and Alliestrasza's Quest Shudderwock Shaman, not only because I like the decks, but also because they are made by cute female streamers who deserve more recognition... Of course, I already upvoted both. :) :) :)
Knee-jerk reaction to day one ladder (SoU)
I've only seen one Quest Druid, one Quest Hunter, two tempo Rogues (one with and one without the quest) and last meta decks, Bomb Warriror and Big Shaman. It's mainly been Highlander Mage and Quest Priest that I keep seeing on ladder.
How'd Your Pack Opening Haul Go?
Opened 91 packs and got 11 legendaries. Most insane luck I've ever had in my pack openings.
From login and preorder:
Bazaar Burglary
Zephrys the Great (golden) (what makes my luck even more insane is that this was on the top of my to craft list)
From packs:
Corrupt the Waters
Dark Pharaoh Tekahn
Vessina (golden)
Sir Finley of the Sands
Octosari
Making Mummies
Anka, the Buried
Supreme Archaeology
Reno the Relicologist
Untapped Potential
High Priest Amet
Knee-jerk reaction to day one ladder (SoU)
This data tells me that it was the most anticipated quest for people to try out.
Reno Jackson, farts and the Saviors of Uldum trailer (I can't be the only one...)
Meh... The Golgari Swarm is by far one of the best things in MtG, and while I also appreciate guilds like House Dimir (Blue/Black) and the Izzet League (Red/Blue) from Ravnica, Grixis scum don't have any place in my hearth. XD XD XD
Knee-jerk reaction to day one ladder (SoU)
I'm one of the aforementioned Quest Druids lel; been using the deck recipe for now. When I'm not playing that I too have used Whizbang...and gotten the Quest Druid again.
I've been running into a disappointing number of Token Druids and other old decks, even in Casual. "I'm gonna take advantage of people experimenting by playing the same stuff I know is good." Sounds like a winning strategy, to be fair, but it's disheartening :(
How'd Your Pack Opening Haul Go?
92 packs
Octosari
Colossus of the Moon
Anka, the Buried
Zephrys the Great
I would have loved to get the other two neutrals, or at least a 5th one. Pretty meh.