Blizzard needs to nerf mana cheating warlock and priest decks, and nerfing hyper agro decks.
Well, all decks try to cheat somewhere, this is called "using synergy". And some synergy is more serious than other and then you want to call it cheating :).
Turn 4 Barnes into Y'shaarj or a turn 4 Voidcaller into Voidlord/Mal'Ganis is toxic and mana cheating -but if you don't want to call that mana cheating than be my guest.
I am only talking about standard. In Wild all bets are off -- that's why it's called wild.
Well you reacted to my post first and I was talking about Wild, and it's illogical for not balancing a format.
I had this issue this morning (Europe, between around 06:00 to 11:00 CEST). News Posts on the front page and pretty much all the links to decks lead to this error. The only section working was the forums. It occured on mobile (Safari) and desktop (chrome). Since about 12:00 CEST everything has been running smoothly.
I get a Server Error 500 when clicking any of the news from the front page or any deck (from front page as well as "Decks" section). Is it just me? Tried from home and work and different browsers, devices and cleared caches in between.
Edit: Nevermind, right after posting this everything started working fine again...
Hi, could you tell us what device and browser were you using? We are experiencing this bug again mostly on Chrome rn, will get it fixed hopefully soon, but more info is always good, thanks!
I have a fun kinda control deck with mage that has a lot of big minions and tries to outvalue late game with galaxy spell. Also runs star aligners for fun and mountain giants ofc and conjurers calling. To ruin aggro decks I run some aoe like blast wave. Its really fun when it works and it can utterly destroy those control warriors. It struggles against aggro of course. Also with luna draw engine, and when she starts going off and can pull in all your one mana dudes, and then at the same time trigger the star aligner combo it can be really funny. Has decent win rate overall, I think almost 50%.
I call "decent" a 52% at least, if you can't get at least a tiny bit above 50% the game is frustrating to play.
The deck compensates for it by giving more fun wins :) It can be boring to grind out your 52 avg win rate, for instance imagine a control warrior grind in which each game also takes 30 minutes on average, and you only armor up and remove minions and then win on fatigue. Not my idea of having fun.
Life is too short to play Control Warrior xD
I prefer to play decks that are are out of the meta (or at least quite different versions from the popular decks) AND that have at least a 52% WR in my hands. Losing is not fun.
Maybe Blizzard will read these forums, so here is an idea for a new cosmetic item: a pet.
You would get this pet after a short quest each year (for example win 10 ranked games, like the quests to get the alternate heroes).
This year, Year of Dragon you would get an egg,
Pet will be sitting on the playing desk - on the right your pet, on the left opponents pet. Just a comestic.
Then, as you play the pet gains experience and when it gets to a treshold, you can level up.
Level 1 - egg hatches, you get a small dragon - choose red/green/bronze
Level 2 - you can alter the color of dragon - red into dark red, fire red, metallic red, bronze into silver, golden, brown, green into blue, dark green, light green
Level 3 - you can change the head of dragon from 3 options (antler)
Level 4 - you can change the shape of wings (3 options)
Etc.
Next year you can get another pet - a bird in Year of raven, a small Mammoth in year of mammoth etc.
Of course when you have lethal against warrior, he gets a 3rd or 4th devastator and he stabilizes. Boom needs to go. Give all classes an OP DK or none. Also remove mech tag from devastator. Kill a 8-10 mana minion AND a 4 health minion for 4 mana and in one turn is beyond %@%$$%$%
OT: for the admins - I don't know if you are aware of it but, if I'm not mistaken, tomorrow there will be a Q&A on Reddit with the game Devs. They'll probably say something about the new expansion and maybe will even show some new cards.
I never preoder, I find the bundles too expensive. I usually spend only 20 € (max 30) per expansion, plus some gold. I know the value is good, but I only play around 50 games/month, so it makes no sense for me to spend a lot of money in Hearthstone.
I get a Server Error 500 when clicking any of the news from the front page or any deck (from front page as well as "Decks" section). Is it just me? Tried from home and work and different browsers, devices and cleared caches in between.
Edit: Nevermind, right after posting this everything started working fine again...
That said, calling beast hunter aggro is a total misnomer. The deck is very versatile and can adapt its playstyle to the opponent's deck. Against a slow deck w/o pressure you can take your time to frenzy timber wolves for an OTK and against aggressive decks you often win by outlasting the opponent's stuff with Unleash the Beasts and buffed scalehides.
Definitions aside, this is what I was after, too: Beast Hunter is so ridiculously versatile that even fatigue won't get it, while it can still gun you down on early turns.
Sure it's versatile, but it's also quite unreliable unless you're a god at mulligan-ing master's call. Not to mention having a weak curve and relying heavily on 2-3 card comboes.
You can argue that Dire Frenzy is a problem of design philosophy but IMO beast hunter is not remotely problematic in terms of power level in the meta.
you're totally right on that, I think Iwas exaggerating there. Discussing design philosophy is also way more interesting to crying over a card or two, as I ended up doing.
So to elaborate, I used to love playing hunter for the scarcity of resources (= draw & generation) you were given. It fits so well with the idea of a hunter lurking in the woods, building makeshift traps and making wise use of scant materials. So personally, I find the current state of hunter too abundant and sort of all over the place design-wise.
Unless you're willing to get creative and experimental, right now the control decks available are the ones that are available. You could experiment. I think Shaman is the best candidate for control experimentation right now.
exactly, so if any of you have any particularly exciting ones, would love to take them for a ride. I don't care about win rates other than it would be nice not to lose every game.
In general, I miss being able to counter tier 1 aggro decks with fun things.
Right, so you're seeking the net deck that hasn't been posted on the net and you're looking for somebody to do the work for you. This is the stage of the game, in the post rotation times, when all you can do is rely on your own abilities to construct decks to deal with your little pocket meta crap, whether in casual or ranked. It's the time of the tech cards. Nothing more to do.
I have a fun kinda control deck with mage that has a lot of big minions and tries to outvalue late game with galaxy spell. Also runs star aligners for fun and mountain giants ofc and conjurers calling. To ruin aggro decks I run some aoe like blast wave. Its really fun when it works and it can utterly destroy those control warriors. It struggles against aggro of course. Also with luna draw engine, and when she starts going off and can pull in all your one mana dudes, and then at the same time trigger the star aligner combo it can be really funny. Has decent win rate overall, I think almost 50%.
I call "decent" a 52% at least, if you can't get at least a tiny bit above 50% the game is frustrating to play.
The deck compensates for it by giving more fun wins :) It can be boring to grind out your 52 avg win rate, for instance imagine a control warrior grind in which each game also takes 30 minutes on average, and you only armor up and remove minions and then win on fatigue. Not my idea of having fun.
Blizzard needs to nerf mana cheating warlock and priest decks, and nerfing hyper agro decks.
Well, all decks try to cheat somewhere, this is called "using synergy". And some synergy is more serious than other and then you want to call it cheating :).
Turn 4 Barnes into Y'shaarj or a turn 4 Voidcaller into Voidlord/Mal'Ganis is toxic and mana cheating -but if you don't want to call that mana cheating than be my guest.
I am only talking about standard. In Wild all bets are off -- that's why it's called wild.
Idea for a new cosmetic item
Sounds nice, I like it. Could be implemented with some effort and a great option for them to make more money!
bondage warrior
Looks like a fun deck. I might have to give this one a whirl.
Lack of control deck options?
Well you reacted to my post first and I was talking about Wild, and it's illogical for not balancing a format.
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I had this issue this morning (Europe, between around 06:00 to 11:00 CEST). News Posts on the front page and pretty much all the links to decks lead to this error. The only section working was the forums. It occured on mobile (Safari) and desktop (chrome). Since about 12:00 CEST everything has been running smoothly.
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Battletag: DeltaStorm#11552
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Hi, could you tell us what device and browser were you using? We are experiencing this bug again mostly on Chrome rn, will get it fixed hopefully soon, but more info is always good, thanks!
Lack of control deck options?
Life is too short to play Control Warrior xD
I prefer to play decks that are are out of the meta (or at least quite different versions from the popular decks) AND that have at least a 52% WR in my hands. Losing is not fun.
Idea for a new cosmetic item
Maybe Blizzard will read these forums, so here is an idea for a new cosmetic item: a pet.
You would get this pet after a short quest each year (for example win 10 ranked games, like the quests to get the alternate heroes).
This year, Year of Dragon you would get an egg,
Pet will be sitting on the playing desk - on the right your pet, on the left opponents pet. Just a comestic.
Then, as you play the pet gains experience and when it gets to a treshold, you can level up.
Level 1 - egg hatches, you get a small dragon - choose red/green/bronze
Level 2 - you can alter the color of dragon - red into dark red, fire red, metallic red, bronze into silver, golden, brown, green into blue, dark green, light green
Level 3 - you can change the head of dragon from 3 options (antler)
Level 4 - you can change the shape of wings (3 options)
Etc.
Next year you can get another pet - a bird in Year of raven, a small Mammoth in year of mammoth etc.
What do you think?
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Of course when you have lethal against warrior, he gets a 3rd or 4th devastator and he stabilizes. Boom needs to go. Give all classes an OP DK or none. Also remove mech tag from devastator. Kill a 8-10 mana minion AND a 4 health minion for 4 mana and in one turn is beyond %@%$$%$%
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OT: for the admins - I don't know if you are aware of it but, if I'm not mistaken, tomorrow there will be a Q&A on Reddit with the game Devs. They'll probably say something about the new expansion and maybe will even show some new cards.
Have you pre-ordered the expansion yet?
I never preoder, I find the bundles too expensive. I usually spend only 20 € (max 30) per expansion, plus some gold. I know the value is good, but I only play around 50 games/month, so it makes no sense for me to spend a lot of money in Hearthstone.
Quest Trading - Play A Friend!
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I get a Server Error 500 when clicking any of the news from the front page or any deck (from front page as well as "Decks" section). Is it just me? Tried from home and work and different browsers, devices and cleared caches in between.
Edit: Nevermind, right after posting this everything started working fine again...
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Lack of control deck options?
yup, true, an I play renolock and reno mage from time to time, but I was talking about standard in my op.
Lack of control deck options?
you're totally right on that, I think Iwas exaggerating there. Discussing design philosophy is also way more interesting to crying over a card or two, as I ended up doing.
So to elaborate, I used to love playing hunter for the scarcity of resources (= draw & generation) you were given. It fits so well with the idea of a hunter lurking in the woods, building makeshift traps and making wise use of scant materials. So personally, I find the current state of hunter too abundant and sort of all over the place design-wise.
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Lack of control deck options?
haha, this is the stuff I was after, thanks for sharing! Looks v nice.
Lack of control deck options?
You make it sound like a bad thing, why?
Lack of control deck options?
What do you mean? Reno decks are basically control and there are 4 viable Reno decks rn
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Next one is
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Edit 2: Thanks DestroyerR!
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The deck compensates for it by giving more fun wins :) It can be boring to grind out your 52 avg win rate, for instance imagine a control warrior grind in which each game also takes 30 minutes on average, and you only armor up and remove minions and then win on fatigue. Not my idea of having fun.
Lack of control deck options?