I believe you guys/gals are trying to focus on sweet new features, but could you change personal profile deck interface similar to this? So, we can filter however we like within our decks. It doesn't have to feature all, just Class and Game Mode filter should do the trick.
Note-I: Maybe it's just me but wasn't "Mage" button next to "Hunter"?
Note-II: Please, change "Is Standard" to "Game Format". It's even mentioned here, so why not change it?
Note-III: Is it possible to implement how many people viewed a deck within this page and our personal profile, similar to ones on Hearthpwn?
I like the fact that most portraits represent some of the most famous and heroic characters in Warcraft lore. I realise there are exceptions, like Sir Annoy-o and Murgl, and I'm fine with joke portraits if done in moderation. Adding nine in one go seems waaay overkill, especially since many of these aren't even particularly funny or memorable.
I'm glad they're in the single player content to add spice to the game but I'm also glad they're not a part of normal HS.
I think a crucial distinction between those examples is that the murlocs don't magic themselves onto the board with charge and bloodlust, you actually have to spend at least one turn developing them. That's totally fair if you ask me, provided the murlocs themselves aren't too efficient. A Wispering Woods that made Murloc Tinyfins might be a bit of a problem, for example.
I don't have too much of a problem with Giant + Conjuring either, because mages typically have to split up the combo early on (Giant on four, hope it survives), and even the dream scenario where you play them on the same turn comes down on turn six and requires a full hand. That said, I really dislike the interaction with Elemental invocation effectively reducing the MG's cost by one, precisely because it allows the mage to cheat a turn out of their aggro opponent.
Of the three examples given Cleef is by far the worst offender because he just comes down too early, too hard. Playing a giant minion for cheap during the mid-game is much more fair because at that point most decks will have some sort of answer, but on turn 3 you're screwed in most cases. What's worse trying to build your own board in anticipation of Cleef often just creates a bigger problem by providing backstab and prep/eviscerate targets.
I wouldn't mind seeing the card bumped up to four, maybe even become 3/3 to compensate. That might seem like a minor nerf, but I believe delaying Edwin by one turn and making him more awkward to play alongside other stuff would be significant in a lot of circumstances. I don't want him gone for good, but a bit less unfair and game-deciding would be nice.
TL;DR, I think turn 4 is roughly where single big cheaty minions should start coming out and turn 6 and beyond is when decks should start spawning huge boards out of hand. If the "combo" requires prior board setup (like the opponent leaving up a Vargoth or Khadgar) I think that makes it a ton more fair and deserves 1-2 turns discount.
I probably a bit salty right now, but is the matchmaking bugged?
Finnally crafted down odd paladin, and 2 out of 3 match againts a warlock, who plays Despicable Dreadlord. I have seen that since it was in STANDARD. Obvioualy i didn't draw any weapon to kill and lost the game. Then i say "if so many non-big priesf control deck are here, finally let's play jade druid". Immedietly a murloc, who kills me over 6 turn.
Wtf this matchmaking? I'm the only onw who feels this way?
I used it a lot and it improved my arena skills greatly! If you care for constant good results, use it.
Since i play mostly on mobile now, i don’t use it anymore but results haven’t changed that much. So i wouldn’t say that it will make you a worse player in the long run. It just opens your mind to some cards and lets you rethink the value of others.
So, I finally crafted Genn a couple days ago, and already I've fallen for Even Shaman. So I decided to start a thread for anything and everything Even Shaman - lists, strategies, matchups or just stories. Any insight welcome. I'm currently at 10-4 with the deck at ranks 5-4, however I rotate between two lists: one with walking fountains, corpsetakers and some extra hex action; the other with thunderheads, likkims and some extra overload cards like zap and that 4 mana BRM 'gain X attack' boy. Would love to hear from folks who run/ran either or both.
So, yeah, Even Shaman archetype. Hope this is enough to start a discussion!
Depends on how OP the play is. Like, 3-4 mana 8/8 has been around for a long, long time and I don't think it was too tilting. If you, however, triple that 8/8 the turn after, that gets kind of sketchy.
So far I believe the consensus is to use the tierlist for the firsr 10/15 cards, and then pick the rest more according to what your deck is lacking. And then, when you get better and better, you might pick differently than the list. I'd try it out, don't think it'll hurt in the long run. I rarely play arena, but when I do I use lightforge's tierlist while drafting.
Congratz man! You should be, as it not easy to get all of the to golden. For that go easy, you need meta to be on ur side. I had problems sonetimes bcs i pushed some classes when they were shit in meta.
Now about bragging. Lowest wins are hunter 801 and highest is priest 1118 wins. Rest are mostly between 850-950.
I've resently finished shaman golden, makes my golden count 5. Paladin, Hunter, Warlock, Mage, Shaman (in the order of obtaining).
Don't know which one I should do next. Druid is probably ahead with about 380 wins. Long way to go. Shaman costed me about half a year for like 200 wins. :D
Do you have an hour to play against YAFW? Nope? Then concede.
Even on the other side I get bored of playing Warrior...although even with the boring hero power, I must admit the OP cards feel..well..powerful? But so predictable and repetitive...
Warrior seems to have an answer for everything (for cheap in mana), it's just a matter of having the right card at the right time.
I'd say that depends on the meta. If there are decks that can have a reasonable answer on the turn that specific crazy shit happens, I'd be fine with it. Problems arise when decks can have a massive board which can't realistically be countered by any deck (a Darkest Hour warlock highroll in wild for example). That deck can create a board at turn 5 or 6 which cannot be answered. That, in my opinion, isn't healthy or fun.
A wide board on turn 2 or 3 with 2-3 statted minions can still be countered by a Hellfire, so I can live with a "highroll" like that.
This about times when YOU had the nuts, the best curve, the perfect answer, the best outcome. That way you won't get as much demoralized since every coin has 2 sides.
At the beginning of the year I started playing meme decks in wild whenever I got tilted by a succession of high rolls in standard. Now I play the majority of my games there, pushing for legend and mainly sticking to 5 in standard. Because everything is pretty broken in wild, the bad beats never feel so bad; besides, whatever deck I'm playing is just as degenerate in its own way as my opponent's. Except big priest, for obvious reasons.
Personal Profile Decks Interface
I believe you guys/gals are trying to focus on sweet new features, but could you change personal profile deck interface similar to this? So, we can filter however we like within our decks. It doesn't have to feature all, just Class and Game Mode filter should do the trick.
Note-I: Maybe it's just me but wasn't "Mage" button next to "Hunter"?
Note-II: Please, change "Is Standard" to "Game Format". It's even mentioned here, so why not change it?
Note-III: Is it possible to implement how many people viewed a deck within this page and our personal profile, similar to ones on Hearthpwn?
The Dalaran Heist alternate heroes should be collectible. Change my mind!
I like the fact that most portraits represent some of the most famous and heroic characters in Warcraft lore. I realise there are exceptions, like Sir Annoy-o and Murgl, and I'm fine with joke portraits if done in moderation. Adding nine in one go seems waaay overkill, especially since many of these aren't even particularly funny or memorable.
I'm glad they're in the single player content to add spice to the game but I'm also glad they're not a part of normal HS.
At what turn is the crazy stuff allowed to start
I think a crucial distinction between those examples is that the murlocs don't magic themselves onto the board with charge and bloodlust, you actually have to spend at least one turn developing them. That's totally fair if you ask me, provided the murlocs themselves aren't too efficient. A Wispering Woods that made Murloc Tinyfins might be a bit of a problem, for example.
I don't have too much of a problem with Giant + Conjuring either, because mages typically have to split up the combo early on (Giant on four, hope it survives), and even the dream scenario where you play them on the same turn comes down on turn six and requires a full hand. That said, I really dislike the interaction with Elemental invocation effectively reducing the MG's cost by one, precisely because it allows the mage to cheat a turn out of their aggro opponent.
Of the three examples given Cleef is by far the worst offender because he just comes down too early, too hard. Playing a giant minion for cheap during the mid-game is much more fair because at that point most decks will have some sort of answer, but on turn 3 you're screwed in most cases. What's worse trying to build your own board in anticipation of Cleef often just creates a bigger problem by providing backstab and prep/eviscerate targets.
I wouldn't mind seeing the card bumped up to four, maybe even become 3/3 to compensate. That might seem like a minor nerf, but I believe delaying Edwin by one turn and making him more awkward to play alongside other stuff would be significant in a lot of circumstances. I don't want him gone for good, but a bit less unfair and game-deciding would be nice.
TL;DR, I think turn 4 is roughly where single big cheaty minions should start coming out and turn 6 and beyond is when decks should start spawning huge boards out of hand. If the "combo" requires prior board setup (like the opponent leaving up a Vargoth or Khadgar) I think that makes it a ton more fair and deserves 1-2 turns discount.
All 9 Golden Heroes!
try the dalaran heist challange now , will take enough time to complete everything :>
WTF matchmaking
I probably a bit salty right now, but is the matchmaking bugged?
Finnally crafted down odd paladin, and 2 out of 3 match againts a warlock, who plays Despicable Dreadlord. I have seen that since it was in STANDARD. Obvioualy i didn't draw any weapon to kill and lost the game. Then i say "if so many non-big priesf control deck are here, finally let's play jade druid". Immedietly a murloc, who kills me over 6 turn.
Wtf this matchmaking? I'm the only onw who feels this way?
About using HearthArena
I used it a lot and it improved my arena skills greatly! If you care for constant good results, use it.
Since i play mostly on mobile now, i don’t use it anymore but results haven’t changed that much. So i wouldn’t say that it will make you a worse player in the long run. It just opens your mind to some cards and lets you rethink the value of others.
Bro, do you Even Shaman?
So, I finally crafted Genn a couple days ago, and already I've fallen for Even Shaman. So I decided to start a thread for anything and everything Even Shaman - lists, strategies, matchups or just stories. Any insight welcome. I'm currently at 10-4 with the deck at ranks 5-4, however I rotate between two lists: one with walking fountains, corpsetakers and some extra hex action; the other with thunderheads, likkims and some extra overload cards like zap and that 4 mana BRM 'gain X attack' boy. Would love to hear from folks who run/ran either or both.
So, yeah, Even Shaman archetype. Hope this is enough to start a discussion!
At what turn is the crazy stuff allowed to start
Depends on how OP the play is. Like, 3-4 mana 8/8 has been around for a long, long time and I don't think it was too tilting. If you, however, triple that 8/8 the turn after, that gets kind of sketchy.
About using HearthArena
So far I believe the consensus is to use the tierlist for the firsr 10/15 cards, and then pick the rest more according to what your deck is lacking. And then, when you get better and better, you might pick differently than the list. I'd try it out, don't think it'll hurt in the long run. I rarely play arena, but when I do I use lightforge's tierlist while drafting.
All 9 Golden Heroes!
Congratz man! You should be, as it not easy to get all of the to golden. For that go easy, you need meta to be on ur side. I had problems sonetimes bcs i pushed some classes when they were shit in meta.
Now about bragging. Lowest wins are hunter 801 and highest is priest 1118 wins. Rest are mostly between 850-950.
All 9 Golden Heroes!
Congrats! Way to go for me too.
I've resently finished shaman golden, makes my golden count 5. Paladin, Hunter, Warlock, Mage, Shaman (in the order of obtaining).
Don't know which one I should do next. Druid is probably ahead with about 380 wins. Long way to go. Shaman costed me about half a year for like 200 wins. :D
Fibonacci's Nomi Warrior
Do you have an hour to play against YAFW? Nope? Then concede.
Even on the other side I get bored of playing Warrior...although even with the boring hero power, I must admit the OP cards feel..well..powerful? But so predictable and repetitive...
Warrior seems to have an answer for everything (for cheap in mana), it's just a matter of having the right card at the right time.
[R5-Legend] Tempo Rush Bomb Warrior
Should actually try it before be rude.. im havin 13-2 so far in EU, got legend with it last seaso
At what turn is the crazy stuff allowed to start
I'd say that depends on the meta. If there are decks that can have a reasonable answer on the turn that specific crazy shit happens, I'd be fine with it. Problems arise when decks can have a massive board which can't realistically be countered by any deck (a Darkest Hour warlock highroll in wild for example). That deck can create a board at turn 5 or 6 which cannot be answered. That, in my opinion, isn't healthy or fun.
A wide board on turn 2 or 3 with 2-3 statted minions can still be countered by a Hellfire, so I can live with a "highroll" like that.
How to best react when your opponent has the nuts
This about times when YOU had the nuts, the best curve, the perfect answer, the best outcome. That way you won't get as much demoralized since every coin has 2 sides.
All 9 Golden Heroes!
Good job! I currently have Mage and Paladin, with Rogue being a relatively close one at 300 something wins
Group Therapy! Need to blow off some steam? Mega salty? Here's the place!
hunters!!!! grrrrr
Murloc shammies
F*** them
All 9 Golden Heroes!
Got only Priest, but agree 500 wins with Warriors is masochism (only have like 50-80 on it) but pretty close on the others
[Game] Name another card that has the same...
Clockwork Giant
By the way, I think you have to ask for a card that has smilitude with the card you just mentioned, and Zilliax doesn't seem very giant to me!
But either way, Clockwork Giant is a giant that can not be played in Standard, find me another one!
Mill me daddy
I love the mill decks. it's so much fun
Dalaran Heist Tips
all heroics and of course normal can be done by this way very easy... (and u can get 0 spell by tavern)
PSA: Free Packs this Weekend w/Twitch drops
this starts in 8 hours?
All 9 Golden Heroes!
Xd
How to best react when your opponent has the nuts
At the beginning of the year I started playing meme decks in wild whenever I got tilted by a succession of high rolls in standard. Now I play the majority of my games there, pushing for legend and mainly sticking to 5 in standard. Because everything is pretty broken in wild, the bad beats never feel so bad; besides, whatever deck I'm playing is just as degenerate in its own way as my opponent's. Except big priest, for obvious reasons.
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