It or another sort of tier list like lightforge are good tools, but you dont want to rely on them too heavily. Heartharena does acknowledge synergies and mana curve if it knows what cards you are choosing, but it's not perfect so you should always consider these things before you make your choices. Over time you will remember which cards are valuable and what works well together with cards you've already picked.
Thanks Flux for your answer. Checked the iOS Version (12.3.1). Some of my issues are gone. The ones that are still there is the menu thing (so now I dont worry about any more :-)) and content that are formatted with tables.
It's crazy to think back on decks that were overpowered a few years ago and realize how laughable they would be now. Big minions used to have some value. Now they only have value if you can multiply them, resurrect them, and re-stock them. A card like Oondasta would have been strong once, but now all it does is give you one free big minion. If it's not at least two big free minions, why even bother?
as a very old school hearthpwn member ive seen the work and dedication that flux put into the community over the years. flux IS hearthpwn. and due to that i hope all the people that notice this will continue to support him and this website instead of hearthpwn.
This deck is great! I run the exact deck except instead of Cairne Bloodhoof I use mechanical drake. The drake summons a bigger deathrattle and both are mechs that can be hit with Zilliax for a bigger lifesteal. Love this deck
If I had 1600+ dust available, the smart craft for the archetype would probably be Ayaya, but I'm not sure I could resist some Storm Bringer memes myself.
I own aya, but i still prefer Fire Elemental in her place.
A Renodeck without Kazakus and Raza the unchained? Your title sounds legit. :D
There is no DK, so Raza isn't too needed. You could swap out thoughtsteal for kazakus if you wanted. I just keep it in there for more high rolling on your opponent.
1. Why would blizzard ever do this? If even, they would probably want you to feel good about the deck changes you just did.
2. For every bad matchup you get, someone else gets a good matchup. So what‘s your point? A miraculous blizzard algorithm chose you to be on the losing side, based on ..... what?
There is simply no reason for Blizzard to tinker with matchmaking.
Flip a coin 100 times, it may teach you something about statistic
No one can say 100% one way or another without seeing the match making algorithms (which we'll never have access to).
I would say it happens too often that match making works against you for it to be completely random. I lost count a long time ago of the times I tech against a popular deck and then never see it but if I remove the tech options from that deck I instantly get the deck I originally was trying to counter.
You'll get people trying to prove to you with their 'facts' but the truth is only Blizzard knows.
What bugs me about these ideas is that it's always ALWAYS against the person posting it. If a match making algorithm isn't random then whatever system is being used should have the reverse as well: people who, no matter what changes they make, keep getting good matchups. Once a system is no longer random, it becomes a solvable puzzle that can be manipulated and gamed.
"only blizzard knows" is a cop out. The entire field of Statistics is meant to show the pattern behind the random, and humans are notorious for being very bad at hiding non-random elements. Whatever non-random system people claim, beyond any "it will know you are looking for it and hide itself" theories (which is solve by toning down on your distopian sci-fi stories), you can show evidence to suggest it actually exists.
That's not to say "It would've been found if it exists." I can very much believe that those that disagree do so blindly while those that believe ..well, do so blindly, and nearly no one has actually bothered a long-form testing, given how bloody impossible it is to actually see anyone post results either way.
But put down the "no one could know the truth.. so anything can be true" card here. It's not a good way to quiet or ignore dissent and it's far too good at ignoring whatever information doesn't fit your current bias when it SHOULD be used to question your own beliefs as well. It also spits on a very major branch of mathematics in this case.
No one can say 100% one way or another without seeing the match making algorithms (which we'll never have access to).
I would say it happens too often that match making works against you for it to be completely random. I lost count a long time ago of the times I tech against a popular deck and then never see it but if I remove the tech options from that deck I instantly get the deck I originally was trying to counter.
You'll get people trying to prove to you with their 'facts' but the truth is only Blizzard knows.
Got only Priest, but agree 500 wins with Warriors is masochism (only have like 50-80 on it) but pretty close on the others
maybe for you, I actually have the most wins on warrior, can't remember now but I think it's the only class for me with 300+ wins ;
Previous comment: yes, want to play only the heroes I don't have golden yet. This comment: well - it is harder on Warrior if you play control, because games take very long to end, but if you played during the Pirate Warrior era then yes, it is easier I must assume
If I had 1600+ dust available, the smart craft for the archetype would probably be Ayaya, but I'm not sure I could resist some Storm Bringer memes myself.
I am not a fan of Shaman as a class, but Even Shaman is indeed the deck that best fits my abilities and my style in the game: Even Shaman is the perfect Jack of all Trades, fair chances against nearly any opponent.
So at the end of the day, Even Shaman is one of my favourite decks ever, and my main climbing deck.
I am just just unsure about crafting The Storm Bringer, it sounds tons of fun after the buff...
About using HearthArena
It or another sort of tier list like lightforge are good tools, but you dont want to rely on them too heavily. Heartharena does acknowledge synergies and mana curve if it knows what cards you are choosing, but it's not perfect so you should always consider these things before you make your choices. Over time you will remember which cards are valuable and what works well together with cards you've already picked.
Mobile View
Thanks Flux for your answer. Checked the iOS Version (12.3.1). Some of my issues are gone. The ones that are still there is the menu thing (so now I dont worry about any more :-)) and content that are formatted with tables.
At what turn is the crazy stuff allowed to start
It's crazy to think back on decks that were overpowered a few years ago and realize how laughable they would be now. Big minions used to have some value. Now they only have value if you can multiply them, resurrect them, and re-stock them. A card like Oondasta would have been strong once, but now all it does is give you one free big minion. If it's not at least two big free minions, why even bother?
A Letter From Flux
as a very old school hearthpwn member ive seen the work and dedication that flux put into the community over the years. flux IS hearthpwn. and due to that i hope all the people that notice this will continue to support him and this website instead of hearthpwn.
My ideas to improve this forum,
Really? I always thought the Hearthpwn deck listings and pages were too busy/cluttered. These (to me at least) are much cleaner and easier to read
[Game] Name another card that has the same...
Unstable Evolution
1 mana spell
All 9 Golden Heroes!
Well done! I'm about 2/3 of the way
Big Shaman | Guide | Season 63 | Cardinal
This deck is great! I run the exact deck except instead of Cairne Bloodhoof I use mechanical drake. The drake summons a bigger deathrattle and both are mechs that can be hit with Zilliax for a bigger lifesteal. Love this deck
A Letter From Flux
I very much like out of cards and see it is a big improvement over that other site with no banners etc.
So I plan to be around here a lot. Thanks for the outstanding job so far!
Bro, do you Even Shaman?
I own aya, but i still prefer Fire Elemental in her place.
In my list, TSB would replace Ragnaros/TLK.
Quest Trading - Play A Friend!
Battletag: Grimok#1851
Region: NA
Trade Only?: Yes
Done
At what turn is the crazy stuff allowed to start
I wish it was turns 6-8
i feel that the longer the game goes on the more meaningful decisions can be made and the more skill and decision making win games.
nothing I hate more than losing the game turn 2-4 because I haven’t drawn an answer yet. Pretty frustrating
Wild Even Inspire Reno
Pretty cool concept, I like it!
Is it possible to play it without Khadgar ?
An absolute joke
There is no DK, so Raza isn't too needed. You could swap out thoughtsteal for kazakus if you wanted. I just keep it in there for more high rolling on your opponent.
WTF matchmaking
1. Why would blizzard ever do this? If even, they would probably want you to feel good about the deck changes you just did.
2. For every bad matchup you get, someone else gets a good matchup. So what‘s your point? A miraculous blizzard algorithm chose you to be on the losing side, based on ..... what?
There is simply no reason for Blizzard to tinker with matchmaking.
Flip a coin 100 times, it may teach you something about statistic
[Game] Name another card that has the same...
Charge (the card that is, not the keyword)
Effect matches a keyword, but doesn't use that keyword (in this case, the Charge card is basically Rush, but it doesn't use the Rush keyword).
[Game] Name another card that has the same...
Molten Giant
Warrior OTK key card from any time
WTF matchmaking
What bugs me about these ideas is that it's always ALWAYS against the person posting it. If a match making algorithm isn't random then whatever system is being used should have the reverse as well: people who, no matter what changes they make, keep getting good matchups. Once a system is no longer random, it becomes a solvable puzzle that can be manipulated and gamed.
"only blizzard knows" is a cop out. The entire field of Statistics is meant to show the pattern behind the random, and humans are notorious for being very bad at hiding non-random elements. Whatever non-random system people claim, beyond any "it will know you are looking for it and hide itself" theories (which is solve by toning down on your distopian sci-fi stories), you can show evidence to suggest it actually exists.
That's not to say "It would've been found if it exists." I can very much believe that those that disagree do so blindly while those that believe ..well, do so blindly, and nearly no one has actually bothered a long-form testing, given how bloody impossible it is to actually see anyone post results either way.
But put down the "no one could know the truth.. so anything can be true" card here. It's not a good way to quiet or ignore dissent and it's far too good at ignoring whatever information doesn't fit your current bias when it SHOULD be used to question your own beliefs as well. It also spits on a very major branch of mathematics in this case.
WTF matchmaking
No sympathies for odd paladins from me.
WTF matchmaking
No one can say 100% one way or another without seeing the match making algorithms (which we'll never have access to).
I would say it happens too often that match making works against you for it to be completely random. I lost count a long time ago of the times I tech against a popular deck and then never see it but if I remove the tech options from that deck I instantly get the deck I originally was trying to counter.
You'll get people trying to prove to you with their 'facts' but the truth is only Blizzard knows.
Bro, do you Even Shaman?
Without Dire Wolf, your totems are useles
Bro, do you Even Shaman?
Here's the Corpsetaker/Fountain variant I've been playing around with:
Wild · Even Shaman · by uhuglue · 7 years, 3 months ago
All 9 Golden Heroes!
Previous comment: yes, want to play only the heroes I don't have golden yet. This comment: well - it is harder on Warrior if you play control, because games take very long to end, but if you played during the Pirate Warrior era then yes, it is easier I must assume
Bro, do you Even Shaman?
If I had 1600+ dust available, the smart craft for the archetype would probably be Ayaya, but I'm not sure I could resist some Storm Bringer memes myself.
Bro, do you Even Shaman?
I am not a fan of Shaman as a class, but Even Shaman is indeed the deck that best fits my abilities and my style in the game: Even Shaman is the perfect Jack of all Trades, fair chances against nearly any opponent.
So at the end of the day, Even Shaman is one of my favourite decks ever, and my main climbing deck.
I am just just unsure about crafting The Storm Bringer, it sounds tons of fun after the buff...