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Welcome to the Legendary Crafting Tier List!

This has been updated at the request of the community. After a solid amount of work to update it, we finally have one that will be updated each major expansion and update! I have done by best to provide a good understanding of how Legendaries are performing in the current DoD Standard Metagame. If you are not sure which legendary you should craft next, this is the place to ask! This is also a great way to know which packs you should be openening the most. Some weight has been given to the Tier List based on rotation.

We only recommend disenchanting golden versions of legendary cards until you know you will not buy more packs from the corresponding set. Keeping even the worst legendaries will increase your chance of getting a good one next time due to the no-duplicate rule. We will try our best to stay on top of the meta-game with updates, and hope this guide can be a valuable resource for new and veteran players alike to make better decisions with your dust!

Disclaimer: A tier list like this can never please everyone; the meta game is dynamic. If you think a card is in the wrong tier, please explain and provide links to deck lists or other data to support your claim.

Please note that some of the cards may not yet be craftable, and are received through adventures or rewards.

Descent of Dragons
Deathwing, Mad Aspect - Great card in lots of Warrior decks.
Dragonbane - Great card in lots of Hunter decks.
Dragonqueen Alexstrasza - Staple in Highlander decks and heavy draw decks, great late-game value card.
Flik Skyshiv - Staple in most Rogue Decks, doubles as board clear and tempo.
Galakrond, the Tempest - Staple in Galakrond Shaman, I believe it will still be good after nerfs.
Kronx Dragonhoof - Staple in all Galakrond decks.

Galakrond, the Nightmare - Enables Galakrond Rogue decks and is good.
Galakrond, the Unbreakable - Enables Galakrond Warrior, good mid-range deck.
Galakrond, the Wretched - Galakrond Warlock is a good deck that will improve after Shaman nerfs.

Saviors of Uldum
Corrupt the Waters - Staple for Battlecry Shaman.
Dinotamer Brann - Staple in Highlander Hunter.
Siamat - Staple in a variety of Highlander decks and other tempo-based decks.
Zephrys the Great - Enables all Highlander Decks, arguably the most powerful individual card ever printed.

Rise of Shadows
None in the DoD Meta.

Rastakhan's Rumble
Shirvallah, the Tiger - Staple for OTK Paladin and most non-aggro Paladin decks.
Zul'jin - Staple in Secret and Highlander Hunter decks.

The Boomsday Project
Flobbidinous Floop - Staple in Malygos and Quest Druid, sees play in other Druid decks too.
SN1P-SN4P - Staple in every Mech deck and many non-mech decks.
Zilliax - Staple in most decks. The best healing card in the game, tons of utility.

The Witchwood
Shudderwock - Staple for top tier decks Quest and Galakrond Shaman.

Classic
Edwin VanCleef - Staple in almost all Rogue decks.
Leeroy Jenkins - Best finisher and Staple in almost all Aggressive decks.

Descent of Dragons
Ancharrr - Staple in Pirate Warrior, great winrate when played.

Saviors of Uldum
Anka, the Buried - Necessary card for Deathrattle Rogue.
High Priest Amet - Staple for Combo Priest, which has lost popularity since DoD.
Reno the Relicologist - Staple in Highlander Mage.
Unseal the Vault - Quest Hunter has been good since DoD, this card is required in that deck.
Untapped Potential - Quest Druid has been a bit too slow in DoD, but will be good for a while.

Rise of Shadows
Archmage Vargoth - Strong synergies in many decks, notably Token Druid and Galakrond Shaman.
Heistbaron Togwaggle - Great in almost all Rogue decks due to great Lackey synergy.

Rastakhan's Rumble
Wardruid Loti - Staple for Quest Druid and decent in other Druid decks.

The Boomsday Project
Dr. Boom, Mad Genius - Staple for Control Warrior, much worse since nerf to 9-cost.
Electra Stormsurge - Staple card for most Shaman decks (Overload, Galakrond, etc.)
Kangor's Endless Army - Staple for Mech Paladin.
Subject 9 - Staple in Secret and Highlander Hunter, playable in other Secret-based decks.

The Witchwood
Lord Godfrey - Staple in any non-aggro Warlock Deck

Classic
Alexstrasza - Versatile neutral card, playable in a wide variety of decks.
Bloodmage Thalnos - Strong neutral card, playable in a variety of decks.
Malygos - Staple in OTK Combo decks.

Descent of Dragons
Bandersmosh - Decent highroll card.
Chenvaala - Playable card in bad archetype Miracle Mage.
Frizz Kindleroost - Can highroll in Dragon decks, but they are underwhelming.
Goru the Mightree - Great card for Treant Druid, but not required.
Malygos, Aspect of Magic - Great card in Highlander Mage and other Dragon Mage decks.
Sathrovarr - Adds great value to specific decks and a staple in OTK Paladin
Valdris Felgorge - Decent card for most Warlock archetypes, including Handlock.
Veranus - Good card for Quest Hunter and Highlander Hunter decks.
Ysera, Unleashed - Good card for Dragon Druid's late-game.
Zzeraku the Warped - Good card for Handlock decks.

Saviors of Uldum
Armagedillo - Good card for Warrior, not played much in Control Warrior currently.
Dark Pharaoh Tekahn - Good in Warlock, but doesn't create a deck by itself.
Corrupt the Waters - Staple for Battlecry Shaman.
Elise the Enlightened - Good card in Highlander and Quest Druid, but replacements for value can be found.
Octosari - Good card for Highlander and Aggressive decks.
Sir Finley of the Sands - Highlander Paladin is rather underhwhelming, also sees play in Murloc Paladin.
Vessina - Great card in Overload/Token Shaman, can be substituted with Bloodlust

Rise of Shadows
Barista Lynchen - Playable in a wide variety of Battlecry-centric value decks.
Catrina Muerte - Staple in resurrect combo priest.
Jepetto Joybuzz - Great for enabling combo decks, but a bit too slow for DoD.
Kalecgos - Staple in Highlander and Dragon Mage decks.

Rastakhan's Rumble
Akali, the Rhino - Playable in Rush warrior.
War Master Voone - Playable in Dragon Warrior.
Zentimo - Occasional Tech pick for some Shaman Decks.

The Boomsday Project
Crystalsmith Kangor - Great for any Paladin Heal effects.
Luna's Pocket Galaxy - Sees play with mana-cheating in Highlander Mage.
Myra's Unstable Element - Great card for Aggro Rogue archetypes.
Stargazer Luna - Playable in most Mage decks.
The Soularium - Strong in Zoolock and some Warlock decks, but the archetype is playable without it.
Whizbang the Wonderful - From a crafting standpoint, you get more out of Whizbang than any other card. He is not Tier 1 in the DoD Meta, but I think for F2P he's amazing. I hope he becomes Classic.

The Witchwood
Countess Ashmore - Versatile neutral card, playable in Warrior and Hunter decks.
Darius Crowley - Good card in most Warrior decks.
Houndmaster Shaw - Good card in a variety of Hunter Archetypes, doesn't see much play.

Classic
Archmage Antonidas - Playable in Spell-Generation Mage and other Mage decks.
Cairne Bloodhoof - Playable in deathrattle and midrange decks, low play rate.
Captain Greenskin - Strong card in Pirate Warrior and some Rogue decks.
Cenarius - Good in Quest Druid and some Token Druid decks.
Grommash Hellscream - Playable in Rush and Tempo Warrior decks.
Harrison Jones - Evergreen neutral tech card.
Tirion Fordring - Great card in Highlander and other Paladin decks.
Ysera - Strong, slow neutral value card.

Descent of Dragons
Dragonrider Talritha - Playable in Dragon Paladin.
Galakrond, the Unspeakable - Galakrond Priest has been underwhelming so far.
Mindflayer Kaahrj - Decent card, but Priest struggles right now.
Murozond the Infinite - Fun card, but Priest struggles right now.
Nozdormu the Timeless - Seeing more play in OTK Paladin and Big Paladin.
Shu'ma - Niche use for token centric decks like Quest Hunter.
Waxadred - Niche card for shuffle and draw Rogue, too slow in most cases.

Saviors of Uldum
Activate the Obelisk - Priest struggles right now and Quest Priest is too slow.
Bazaar Burglary - Niche for Burgle Rogue.
Colossus of the Moon - Niche for Big decks.
Hack the System - Quest Warrior is very niche and doesn't do enough late-game.
King Phaoris - Great card for Big Spell decks, but very niche and slow.
Making Mummies - Quest Paladin will not get better without more Reborn minions.
Raid the Sky Temple - Random Spells have been proven to be inconsistent.
Supreme Archaeology - Staple in weak Plot Twist warlocks, T4 in Wild.

Rise of Shadows
Blastmaster Boom - Bomb Warrior has not been great since RoS.
Chef Nomi - Build-around for Nomi decks, Priest currently has the best version.
Commander Rhyssa - Secret Paladin is not great and Highlander Paladin is better without secrets.
Fel Lord Betrug - Staple in relatively weak Plot Twist Warlock.
Keeper Stalladris - Decent card for some Druid decks.
Lucentbark - Enables weak Druid Heal deck.
Madame Lazul - Weak stats and questionable value.
Scargil - Great card for Murloc Shaman, not playable in any other archetype.
Swampqueen Hagatha - Good card as a standalone, but too slow for most DoD meta decks.
The Boom Reaver - Decent card in Big Warrior.

Rastakhan's Rumble
Bwonsamdi, the Dead - Sees play in Combo Priest for late-game draw.
Captain Hooktusk - Playable in slower Pirate Rogue decks.
Da Undatakah - Slow card with strong synergies in Mech Paladin.
Gral, the Shark - Niche compared to better Draw options for Rogue.
Halazzi, the Lynx - Sees some play in Quest Hunter decks, but not a Staple.
High Priest Thekal - Staple in several heal-heavy decks and some play in OTK Paladin.
Krag'wa, the Frog - Playable in a Aggro Shaman, but not the best option.
Mojomaster Zihi - Tech card vs combo decks, struggles in the Standard Meta.
Oondasta - Synergy with Witchwood Grizzly and other big beasts in control decks.
Princess Talanji - Struggles to find a home after the Standard rotation.

The Boomsday Project
Boommaster Flark - Niche play in Quest and Mech Hunter.
Dr. Morrigan - Sees Niche play in Plot Twist Warlock.
Floop's Glorious Gloop - Niche for Nomi Druid and some Quest Druid decks.
Mecha'thun - Unique win condition, better in the Wild format. 
The Boomship - Playable in Big Warrior and some Mecha'Thun Warrior decks.
The Storm Bringer - Playable in Murloc and Token Shaman decks.
Zerek's Cloning Gallery - Used in some Resurrect Priest decks.

The Witchwood
Azalina Soulthief - Niche as emergency hand refill in several decks.
Dollmaster Dorian - Used in Plot Twist Warlock decks only.
Glinda Crowskin - Niche tech in Magic Carpet zoolock, lackey synergy.
Hagatha the Witch - Slower Shaman decks have been replaced by Quest Shaman, so Hagatha sees no play.
Prince Liam - Niche for Aggro Paladins.
Tess Greymane - Playable in Thief Rogue, low win rate.
The Glass Knight - Struggles to find a home in a Paladin deck.

Classic
Al'Akir the Windlord - Sees some play in Big Shaman.
Baron Geddon - Very niche board clear card without a home.
Deathwing - Playable rarely as a "Just in Case" board clear.
Onyxia - Playable in dragon decks.
Prophet Velen - Struggles to find a home in the DoD metagame and hurt by the loss of [Hearthstone Card (Mindblast) Not Found]
The Black Knight - Evergreen neutral tech card, not great in the current meta but may find a place in future decks.
Tinkmaster Overspark - Sees some play as neutral transform tech.

Descent of Dragons
Nithogg - Very slow card for the cost and the effect may not trigger.

Saviors of Uldum
None in the DoD Meta.

Rise of Shadows
Khadgar - Has struggled to find a place since Conjurer's Calling got nerfed.
Nozari - Unique effect, playable in Dragon Paladin but very low win rate.
Oblivitron - Big Deathrattle Hunter is too slow for the DoD metagame.
Tak Nozwhisker - Playable in Thief and Pogo-Hopper rogue, very low win rate.
Vereesa Windrunner - Sees play in Malygos Hunter, but is too expensive for the effect.
Zayle, Shadow Cloak - A poor man's Whizbang the Wonderful.

Rastakhan's Rumble
Gonk, the Raptor - Gonk OTK decks are not viable.
Griftah - Unreliable meme card, very low win rate.
Hakkar, the Soulflayer - Playable in mill decks, much to slow for DoD metagame.
Hex Lord Malacrass - Weak card rarely used in Highlander Mage.
High Priestess Jeklik - Struggles to find a home without Discard synergies.
Hir'eek, the Bat - Sees experimental play in hand-buff zoo, very low win rate.
Jan'alai, the Dragonhawk - Not playable since Baku the Mooneater went to the HoF.

The Boomsday Project
Flark's Boom-Zooka - Bad card in all DoD Hunter decks.
Harbinger Celestia - It's a 4-mana 1/1.
Myra Rotspring - Not playable in DoD metagame.
Zerek, Master Cloner - Effect slow and difficult to make use of, low win rate.

The Witchwood
Archmage Arugal - Not playable in any Mage decks.
Blackhowl Gunspire - Meme card, effect difficult to abuse.
Chameleos - Very weak and unreliable card.
Duskfallen Aviana - Enables some big plays...for your opponent.
Emeriss - Slow card, useless in current hunter decks.
Face Collector - Bad card. Even in Thief Rogue, low win rate.
Lady in White - Playable in silence priest, low win rate.
Splintergraft - Interesting, slow effect, hasn't found a home since it was released.
Toki, Time-Tinker - Inconsistent value card for Mage.

Classic
Gruul - Very slow card
Hogger - Weak to AOE, rarely sees play anymore.
Illidan Stormrage - Rarely sees play due to cost.
King Krush - Struggles to find a home.
King Mukla - Struggles to find a home.
Lord Jaraxxus - Gets killed too easily with Burn or Zephrys the Great
Lorewalker Cho - Meme card, needed for the longest hearthstone turn ever.
Millhouse Manastorm - A liability.
Nat Pagle - Outclassed by Novice Engineer.
Nozdormu - Meme card.
The Beast - A liability.

Again, this guide is for Standard and I highly recommend focusing your crafting or pack purchases on the Year of the Dragon expansions. For details on how Standard will rotate, check out this thread!

A new Epic Targon Unit, Mountain Sojourners, has been revealed!

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A new Common Targon Unit, Tyari the Traveler, has been revealed!

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...Or perhaps more appropriately, "new region + new champions and a bunch of supporting cards", since they have decided to release cards in waves and seem to be downplaying the term "expansion".

Re: timestamp 4:11 @

 The full schedule should be:

• Wed, July 22: Patch 1.6 = 3rd & final RT "big" balance patch; start of Spirit Blossom event
• Wed, Aug 5: Patch 1.7 = 4th & final RT "small" patch; last 2 epic Spirit Blossom quests added
• Thur, Aug 6: HS Scholomance Academy released
• Wed, Aug 19: Patch 1.8 = new region + new cards ("expansion-lite"?); end of Spirit Blossom event

For Rising Tides, the tease season started April 7th with Demacia artwork on Twitter and lasted until the MF YouTube announcement on April 27th--the day before RT released on April 28th.  If they follow that same cadence, that will mean teases should start 3 weeks before expansion: July 28th aka this coming Tuesday.  However between Scholomance Academy coming out in the dead middle of that schedule and the fact less cards will be immediately released in this set than RT, I could also see them pushing the start out and just doing a shorter tease season.  (For context: Ashes of Outland was released on April 7th, so there was just a tiny overlap with the start of RT tease season) 

Please forgive me if there's a thread on this already - but is there a page on THIS site with easy to grab avatar sized images of popular Hearthstone characters and heroes? I know that other sites have similar pages where you can grab a jpg and update your avatar. Just wondering if there's one here that I missed. Thanks!

I was using the card search tool for Hearthstone today (https://outof.cards/hearthstone/cards/ ) and wanted to list all the secrets available in standard. I don't see anywhere in the list of filters a toggle to show only cards valid in standard. This seems like an odd thing to be missing, given that there are a few battlegrounds specific toggles. There should be a toggle to choose game mode (Standard/Wild/Arena/BG/Any).

thought LoR is a place where players can't be f**** a****, however it becomes for whatever brainless reasons more and more popular, that players wait each and every round until time (nearly) runs out to make you quit. they won't be automatically marked as "toxic/afk" because they don't wait until time completely runs out to make their play. I understand in some rounds you need time to go through all the options, but not EVERY ROUND!

we need an option to report those players ingame. i play unranked and experience those situations at least twice a week, can't imagine how hard it is to deal with such idiots in ranked....

We have a new highest win rate deck in legends of Runterra, and that's Swain TF.

I'll include my version that just swaps riptide rex for farron, because he's been getting good results on stream lately.

Now I personally haven't seen anyone playing this list at all, have you guys?

This is according to mobalytics, 57 percent wins, with 3000 games

https://lor.mobalytics.gg/stats/regions

So I've personally been feeling a little burned out on LOR

This being the result of several factors.

1. A fairly established meta game, which I will include here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqHMDLe5Ldk

2. Running into a lot of made hand scenarios for every single deck - aka opponent card draw simulator

3. Less people willing to run synergistic low tier and exciting lists

4. Having all the cards

5. A distinct impression that others aren't enjoying the game anymore - aka speed chess

6. Slow roll or value plays being generally phased out for pure tempo

So if you guys have any ideas on how to keep things fresh until the expansion I'd love to hear it

A new Legendary Warrior Minion, Rattlegore, has been revealed!

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Hey guys thought i would upload some of the decks ive been refining since release day. Please upload yours if you wish.

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really fun great against control, would love some feedback on this one

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a bit draw dependent but hilarious if you get good starting hand. good against decks who like clearing your board turn after turn

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another hurt me deck but my own take on it that i theorycrafted two weeks ago

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really good against druid and other decks that cant deal with big minions

so thats it please show me your fun decks from SA

Hope this is the right section/anyone could help me.

When I start the Hearthstone app on my smartphone, it goes smooth and everything. After the time required to play 2/3 game, it starts lagging; restarting the app, makes Hearthstone go smooth until it starts to lag again.

It started doing this like a month ago, but I have no idea how to solve this. Does anyone have any advice?

My smartphone is a Xiaomi Mi 9T btw.

Thank you in advance

I'm using RSS feeds to access the articles of outofcards. I'm using inoreader, but I suppose it is the same with other rss readers.

For the generic RSS for all the news on the site, each article has an image associated to it. (it's pretty convenient for cards for instance)

I'm more interested in news about hearthstone and runeterra, but when I select these specific feeds, I get the post, but not the image. Do you think you can resolve this issue? Or add this feature?

By the way, thanks for the content, you're doing a great job.

Well, I’m an impatient person and this isn’t finished by far, but the core cards are done and I’m curious about your feedback. Blizzard will also probably announce the new expansion within a few days and I want to make a point of who had those brilliant ideas first, so...

Ladies and Gentlemen, I proudly present to you my first custom Hearthstone expansion,

The Great Air Race

Now sit back, tighten your seatbelts and make yourself ready, because you are in for a wild ride!

The story:
Our favorite heroes have agreed upon taking a little break from constantly bashing their heads in and chose to participate in The Great Air Race to pass their time instead. It takes place in the Jade Forest on Pandaria and revolves around the Order of the Cloud Serpent, so prepare for Dragons, Pandaren and …

Mounts!
Every class gets a Legendary Mount card to help them win the race. With the exception of Druid I used their WoW class mounts for these. I’m really surprised Blizzard hasn’t walked down this path a long time ago. They are so cool!

Winning The Great Air Race will not only be a matter of speed, but also of endurance. This trait will be illustrated by my custom

New Keyword: Stamina (x)!

Protect your Stamina minions and reap amazing rewards! Stamina is basically a fun and interactive version of Dormant. It forces players to pay more attention to their opponent’s board and brings back trading minions as a key element of Hearthstone.

But enough of the warm up, let’s go racing! Here are the cards I’ve designed so far:

Mounts

Dragons

Pandaren

Other

As you can see, I didn’t find art for all the WoW stuff I wanted to make cards of. If anyone happens to be able to help me out with this, I’d be very grateful. I’m also open to any kind of feedback. This custom expansion is far from complete and will probably be a long term side project. I’ll happyly adjust the balance of my cards if you have any concerns.

Thanks for reading!

Enjoy this magnificent pack I opened today!

https://imgur.com/a/87tZduj

It's clear now that blizzard will never nerf the rez mechanic, a mechanic in wild that is so abused and annoying to play against, yet so easy to pilot that a lot of people are still playing it even now. And it's clear there is no stopping it, since bliz is even now releasing cards like Raise Dead and Vectus for the neverending bullshit that is Convincing Infiltrator spam. And i have gotten tired of trying to voice my opinion about it just to hear people tell me it's fair and balanced and fun to play against just because it's their favorite deck to play in wild. So i'm just going to make this thread three times a year, or until the mechanic is fixed.

What is this thread you ask? Well a year ago there was a deck:

Big Priest Murder Simulator

Wild · Control Mage · by Morkimus · 6 years, 10 months ago

• 1 Gravelsnout Knight x 2
• 1 Saronite Taskmaster x 2
• 1 Weasel Tunneler x 1
• 2 Arcanologist x 2
• 2 Flamecannon x 2
• 2 Primordial Glyph x 2
• 3 Arcane Intellect x 2
• 3 Conjurer's Calling x 2
• 3 Counterspell x 2
• 3 Forgotten Torch x 2
• 3 Marsh Drake x 2
• 3 Polymorph: Boar x 2
• 3 Potion of Polymorph x 2
• 4 Polymorph x 2
• 6 Sylvanas Windrunner x 1
• 8 Marin the Fox x 1
• 9 Frost Lich Jaina x 1

7,400 Dust 9,808 12 Copy Deck Code

Okay that's enough of my rambling, here's where you come in, i will be testing these changes out myself but other opinions are always welcome :)

Potential additions by expansion:

Saviors of Uldum:

Reno the Relicologist

Puzzle Box of Yogg-Saron(?)

Zephrys the Great(potential highlander possibility in wild. zephrys can get Cabal Shadow Priest early)

Golden Scarab(potentially more Polymorph)

Descent of Dragons(and Galakrond's Awakening):

Malygos, Aspect of Magic(mainly for Malygos's Polymorph, but eight damage from Malygos's Flamestrike wouldn't be bad either or even Malygos's Intellect for draw)

The Amazing Reno POOF

Ashes of Outland:

Evocation(potentially more Polymorph)

Magtheridon(i would never craft this card for this deck, but it does make sense for the matchup.)

Infectious Sporeling(sounds good but probably doesn't work, priest has removal for things like this)

Terrorguard Escapee(one of the new cards for this deck. Mostly an excuse as to why they haven't nerfed the rez mechanic, but it could work nicely)

Scholomance Academy:

Devolving Missiles(potentially not good enough, but i'll try it out.)

[Hearthstone Card (Lorekeeper polkelt) Not Found](basically freeze mage, play polkelt topdeck blizzard freeze them out for an OTK, Just keep telling yourself the whole time, that running Mindrender Illucia in a rez deck is bad deck design and don't be too upset when they play it anyway.)

Sphere of Sapience(tutor for polymorph effects)

If there's anything i missed let me know, but i think i got pretty much everything. In closing rez priest is not a hard opponent to beat with the right deck, just about any control deck with [Hearthstone Card (chef gnomi) Not Found], and enough removal can beat it. But this deck isn't designed for that. It's designed to make the rez priest feel bad they picked that deck to play. It wants to make them question every mage they see might be the unwinnable matchup. To make the priest stop joining games with their rez deck and think they've won on turn one because they had Convincing Infiltrator and two Resurrect in their mulligan. It's for that reason. If you have a similar deck let me know i'm down to check it out!

I decided to leave my impressions and thoughts about these first few days of the expansion and an analysis of the legendary cards i've got. The thread is long so bear with me.

Glide is a card that i despised upon first glance. I mostly play slow decks and it looked like something designed to completely screw over with them in aggro DH which is supposed to be weak to Control decks. I only played against two DH with Glide so far. The meta isn't favorable for the card but it's awful if you are trying to keep resources in hand. They vomit everything on their hand and then they play this and refill their hand while discarding yours (it's not true discard but it feels like that). It may not be as op as i thought but it's as anti-fun as i thought. 

I got Lorekeeper Polkelt from the bundle and i've been testing him mostly in highlander decks. It's an interesting card that has its uses but it can be a liability as well. You can play him one turn before you get to your big cards and you are guaranteed to draw them on the next turn. I have used it to have Dinotamer Brann consistently in my hand by turn 7 but if you don't draw Polkelt in time then he just becomes useless. Also, he's bad for specific card combinations. I've been testing Professor Slate in the deck as well and it's not good to have both him and/or Rapid Fire at the bottom of your deck. Polkelt is a little tricky to use properly and not as much of a meta breaker as people thought.

Speaking of Professor Slate, that's a card i haven't seen at all. Not in ladder, not in videos, absolutely nothing. I decided to test the card and it's quite good. Hunter doesn't lack hard removal. In fact, they have a lot of it right now with both Slate and Krolusk Barkstripper joining his arsenal alongside Deadly Shot and Rotnest Drake. The key difference is that Slate isn't random. You can choose your destruction target and that's relevant against wider boards. The problem is the lack of good spells to use with the card. Rapid Fire is good with Slate and... pretty much nothing else. Well, there's Vereesa Windrunner but nobody uses her so... Yeah. Besides that, we have Explosive Shot and Multi-Shot. These are not good enough. There will be people making the atrocious mistake of running into an Explosive Trap before removing Slate but i can't really count secrets as those are very easy to play around. In the end, the card lacks proper support but he can easily become great with a decent and cheap Multi-hit/AoE spell (like Grievous Bite in Wild).

Mindrender Illucia is another card that's really hard to utilize properly. She is mostly good for disrupting combos but those are extremely rare because the ladder is full of aggro decks. In my experience, she isn't great in control or midrange games because even if you waste your opponent's resources they can do the same to you. You don't want to play her with your big cards in hand and if you wait too much then there won't be much left to disrupt. In aggro games you can actually use her more effectively because your opponent is mostly holding low cost cards and you are holding high cost cards. If you play her early you can screw them and they won't be able to do much with your hand. Overall, she is another card that's really tricky to play with and she gives me the tech card vibe. 

The meta isn't great on my end as i'm facing Druid all the time. There are a lot of Face Rogues (ugh...) and all sorts of Hunter decks as well. I rarely see Paladins and Warriors and not much else. Druids tend to fall apart pretty quickly against any aggression. However, it's undeniable that Lightning Bloom is a liability and it's just going to cause problems for the remainder of the year and the next one. Secret Passage is also pretty ridiculous. Voracious Reader is only good in extreme hyper aggressive decks that vomit their hands very quickly but the card isn't very good in any deck with cards that costs 4 or more. I think it will be fine if Face DH and Face Rogue fall from the meta.

Just as i expected, Mozaki, Master Duelist is extremely difficult to utilize as she is a combo card and the ladder is infested with aggression. Combo decks just fall apart very easily because of that. So far, she seems like a big meme that's going to see play just because combo lovers will never give up on making cards like that work. Ras Frostwhisper is much better and can be slotted into Highlander Mage without any other support cards. I don't play Shaman so i don't know how he's doing in that class. Btw, Ras is the only dual class legendary i've got so far. Really unlucky.

Finally, there's Sphere of Sapience. The card is very good in specific decks. I utilize it in my Wild OTK Miracle Priest. The deck always ran into the problem of drawing my big key minions before i could play Zerek's Cloning Gallery and the weapon prevents that which greatly increased its consistency. The weapon is good in Big Warrior and Duel Paladin as well because you really want to keep the big minions in the deck so you cheat them out. Sphere is pretty good, especially in decks that want to keep certain cards inside the deck.

Edit: I completely forgot about Infiltrator Lilian. I guess that's how much i care about aggressive cards. I tried her in a Secret Passage Stealth Rogue and it was fine. The deck has a lot of damage. Self-Sharpening Sword and Vulpera Toxinblade are really strong. Sometimes i didn't even need Secret Passage to win but that card just improves the deck's consistency a lot. Drawing 5 cards for so little just leaves a ton of flexibility and you can make the most out of your mana because of it. Also, if you draw Eviscerate the combo is going to active already. Lilian itself is just okay. The guaranteed damage can make the difference occasionally but she isn't needed to play a deck like this.

So far, the expansion just feels okay. There's some big mana cheat shenanigans happening (mostly because of Lightning Bloom but High Abbess Alura also contributes to the issue), lots of aggro decks, combo decks dying to aggro decks (as always) and Control decks seem to be AFK (at least, i haven't seen a lot of them). Let's see what's going to happen next week. Any thoughts? Thanks for reading!

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Please wipe my collection on this site so that I can re-import it with the JSON importer.

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This is not a complaint thread, more of a commentary and attempt at a neutral analysis of my pack opening.

First off I need to set the stage. I am 100% free to play and typically save up at least 8k gold between expansions. My philosophy is to purchase 60 decks and use whatever freebies Blizzard hands out to form the basis of my collection. If I get close to the legendary pity timer at the end of opening those packs, I'll buy a few packs at a time until I hit the timer. This time around I already had three packs waiting from my monthly ladder rewards and I completed day 1 of the special quests to get two more packs before I opened anything.

My login reward was Infiltrator Lilian. I guess it has some promise, but it wasn't my first choice. I suspect with the Self-Sharpening Sword and Secret Passage there will be some decks out there that will make use of her.

I got my first legendary Ras Frostwhisper at pack 3, not even halfway into the first 10 timer for a new set. He looks pretty cool and I think there is some potential for a spell power mage deck to work with this.

My next one came 19 packs later, Lord Barov. I'm not too excited about this one, but who knows. Two out of my first 5 epics in this stretch were Secret Passage, so I've at least got that much nerf dust coming to me. :-)

The next one did not come until 39 packs later. I can't tell you how anxious I got waiting for that gold glow. This one I do feel good about, Sphere of Sapience should be integral for a few decks that come up. And that was the end of my notable cards. My most notable pack was having an epic show up in the same pack as my last legendary. My golden count was 9 (1 epic, 4 rare, and 4 common).

Interestingly enough, 65 packs was the exact amount I needed to get all the rare cards. I double checked using 'missing' and 'extra' searches in my collection, and I have exactly two of every rare card. I also got 12 total epic cards and the three legendary. With the epic timer at 10, that probably makes five packs the average, so I'm right on the money there. If we remove the first legendary and the first 10 cards that puts me at 2/50 which is slightly below average.

I do have some dust stored up that I can comfortably craft a few must have epic or legendary cards. I'll just be patient and wait to see which ones those are.

Anyone else care to share their experience?

Hi, all.

So, up until yesterday I had saved around 9.2k gold for SA packs. My only wish was to obtain Illucia and after opening 80 packs (including freebies), I finally got her. Right now I have 2k gold remaining and I don't feel like buying any more packs - my current legendaries are Infiltrator Lilian (freebie), Ace Hunter, Malicia, Ras and Illucia. Normally I would like to have Alabaster, Polkelt and Sphere as well, but I am not that likely to open another legendary, yet alone one of the desired three in the next 20 packs. So, I considered the following options: Buying two wings of an adventure or the BG-bundle. And right now I just can't decide what I should go after.

From the pve adventures I only want Naxx tbh, but since I missed the chance to buy the first wing, I can't use gold to purchase it, so that's out of the question. I considered whether I wanted to buy BrM and ONiK and I figured, it's not worth to do it for the sake of new cards, since most of them don't see any play and the ones, that do, are so derp cheap, that I can craft them easily with dust. This led me to the following options - GA or the dungeon-run adventures in RoS/SoU. Now, my goal is mainly to have fun. I have heard, that GA was a bit underwhelming and it didn't offer much replayability, so I am leaning towards the other picks, but I would like to hear your opinion on those three adventures. 

Regarding the BG-bundle: I play bgs casually. My rating is 6.3k, so you can see, that I am not that devoted to it. It was another thing I decided to buy due the fun factor.

So, those are my options. I would like to hear what you guys think and what you could recommend me. Btw, I am aware, that I could save my gold for the next expansion, but I think I will accumulate enough, when it hits. Not to mention, I am not in the mood for such long-term investments.

I just played almost 5 hours straight after Scholomance Academy's release and I'd like to discuss our first impressions here. I'm aware of the fact that nothing is solved yet and it's probably way too early to judge the meta, but let's just put together our observations, shall we? 

For me, Beast Spell Druid was the most successful deck I played. I don't remember losing a game with it. I'm not even sure if this can be kept in line by aggro anymore. 

Soul Fragment Handlock was fun and looks promising, but needs some refinement. I don't own Kelidan, but I think he might be a good addition to this deck. 

Aggro Alura Paladin is meh. Sometimes I managed to snowball hard, but most of the time I got out valued. Haven't played Pure Alura yet and the games against that deck felt fair. 

Priest seems to be in a good place. I queued into lots of buff Priests and they are very hard to beat imho. Will probably try this out this weekend. 

Zoolock was very underwhelming. This needs much refinement. 

I tried a Deathrattle Hunter list for a few games, but it wasn't very exciting. Much depends on drawing Teron in time. 

Big Warrior appears to be a thing. Very hard to beat if you cant apply lots of pressure early. 

Demon Hunter looks cool. Not OP, just fun to play imho. I got Kreen as a golden legendary from the bundle and I'm really happy with that. 

What surprised me most was mage. I got all the legendarys and finally crafted Solarian and Kalecgos but neither the Spell Damage nor the Highlander archetype worked for me. I played Flux's Pew Pew Pew Mage for almost and hour and won only two games (one was a disconnect and the second a frustrated but unnecessary concede after a misplay). Can someone please explain to me how Mozaki is supposed to work? Either I don't draw her or I'm not able to hold on to enough cheap spells to do something significant. I wanted to make this work so badly, but I'm at a loss right now. Maybe I tried too many of the new cards at once. 

So what are your first impressions? I haven't seen much of Rogue, how are they doing? Have you made similar experiences like me? Where do you disagree? Any advice for mage? 

A week after I posted my Hecarim/Kalista deck over half of the decks in ranked are slight variants of it... lol.  The funny part is now its hard to find the usual meta decks because Hecarush beats them ;p  Unfortunately for me, Hecarush is weak to Hecarush  so mirror comes down to who gets sharks/kalista up and running first... T_T

I followed all the steps and installed the plugin to upload my collection. It appears on the plugin section of HDT but when i open the drop down menu to login it only shows settings and when i click it nothing happens. I tried restarting HDT but it's not working. Any idea of what's happening?