Interesting to see how this turned out. All 8 finalists were very close in their final score. Only 0.3 separate 1st from 8th place! This does kinda make me wonder if this is the right scoring system to be using? I wasn't sure how scoring was being done, I voted for my own card and didn't vote for the other finalists in the final round. I guess it incentivizes me to give them all 1 star? That feels lame and I didn't want to do that. Might be a good call to not let finalists vote in the final round?
It is nice that later entries (like mine) were still able to compete and still received a good number of views and votes, which was a problem back on hearthpwn.
I don't know if any changes need to be made just yet. But I will say that I already like this better than the old system on Hearthpwn.
Hm, you know, that never actually came up as a problem "finalists voting on themselves". Since it isn't possible to vote on yourself in the submission phase of the competition, it only makes sense we wouldn't allow it in the finalists.
Though, it would be funny if someone forgot to give their own card 5 stars in the finals :D
We'll have to leave that open for now and continue to collect feedback and hold an internal discussion. I think we have a lot of really great people in the community though that legitimately vote so it may not be an issue right now.
The close scores are also an interesting point to bring up. Although I'd personally like to wait and see how things turn out over multiple competitions before anything changes, we maybe could have done a better job at getting people to go and vote in the finals, even those that don't take part in the competitions themselves.
I love the feedback we've gotten on the system so far though and I agree, things are MUCH better here! The best part about it though is that they're only going to improve because we actually have the ability to make changes without needing to go through processes on top of processes. I'm super stoked we have the competitions back and I can't wait for us to extend them to other titles we cover, breaking some ground there.
Anyway, I'll be leaving much of the decision making up to the Fan Creations team to see how we're going to proceed with any changes since they are much better than I at figuring it out - I'll just be the code monkey getting any potential changes out to everyone :D
One thing to throw out there, I would love to implement a progress bar showing how many cards you've voted on and how many you have to go. I can't say for certain it'll appear during competition 2 but maybe by 3 I'll be able to get that out there. Anything that can improve the voting experience is A+.
Zilliax to me is very much in-between. There were a lot of fun moments with him which made it a great card and one that will certainly be missed for that reason, but looking at it overall from a game health perspective, Zilliax had some very evil moments.
I noticed that the Fan Creations menu doesn't appear in the Hearthstone dropdown menu that appears on other portals, the only way to access it is to go into the Hearthstone portal first.
I've actually got a fix for this that'll go out in the next site update
They said per pack it will end up being a bit more than normal packs since the booster boxes have less packs in them due to the increased card size.
I imagine each booster box will be going for the usual price, no insane markup like Modern Horizons, though we may see an initially higher price due to demand as is always the case >.>
Get those pre-orders in so you can see them cancelled. lol
Increased the number of forum threads appearing on the site homepage.
With more games comes less chance of seeing something you may be interested in. We've extended the number of forum posts that are displayed on the homepage to help with this (and take over some newfound space!)
Hearthstone
Removed Tavern Brawl & Deck Discussion from the site homepage.
These are still on the Hearthstone portal. In our efforts to better cover multiple games, we're finally finishing the clearing-up of Hearthstone content on the main homepage.
Added a Pack Opener Leaderboard widget to the Hearthstone portal.
We'll change the featured pack occasionally to spice things up!
Bug Fixes
Hearthstone
Fixed an issue with Galakrond's Awakening cards missing their golden images.
Rendered and uploaded fresh cards for the January card nerfs. Oops
Shuffling isn't rigged and shouldn't be considered rigged until it can be proven otherwise. It would be a very bad day for any of the companies mentioned if it was discovered they were intentionally messing around with it, potentially leading to advantages for certain players/cards/whatever.
If you can provide statistically significant data that proves your point, I'll reopen the thread.
I moved your thread to the Custom Hearthstone forum since it is "fan created content" and fits really well here - the forum isn't just for custom cards!
Keep being awesome, griffior. I would love to see full art cards in the game so much and tying it to play requirements sounds like it could be a lot of fun.
I think this a neat product for them to put out and I'm probably going to have to pick up a couple of packs to play with. I really can't wait for this to be available on Arena though! My real question is if when it comes to Arena we'll get to keep the cards from the packs or if it'll be more of a for-fun thing.
A small update has gone out that fixes a couple of competition issues and site nav.
Changes
Magic
Added a header banner (finally).
Added navigation links that take you to the Magic Arena Portal.
Hearthstone
Fan Creations Nav item now has a dropdown.
Added an additional reminder to use Hearthcards.net on the submission page for card competitions.
Bug Fixes
General
Fixed an issue where spoiler markup would fail to render.
Cookies that keep track of the last part of the site you were on (for browser-side cosmetics) no longer expire when you close your browser, retaining theme.
Hearthstone
Fixed debug info showing up in Fan Creations "my votes" section.
Fixed a typo causing a server-side error when visiting the competition list. (This was hotfixed on Feb 18 after the first error was triggered)
Dev Notes
We're paying attention to all the feedback that has been brought forth for the new Fan Creations Card Design Competition system. We won't be making any major changes for the first competition but we are currently considering exactly what we'll change. So far we're happy with the positive response we've seen from the launch of the system and we're looking forward to a healthy competitive environment for Hearthstone card design that simply isn't being offered elsewhere.
Ugh, why'd you have to remind me of Blue Ez hahaha. That was some interesting times in bot lane.
Yeah, I don't really expect to see Overkill again. Other mechanics definitely made up for it being lackluster, but damn that was a shame!
Yes please!
Congrats!
You should have a new avatar border to celebrate :D
Hm, you know, that never actually came up as a problem "finalists voting on themselves". Since it isn't possible to vote on yourself in the submission phase of the competition, it only makes sense we wouldn't allow it in the finalists.
Though, it would be funny if someone forgot to give their own card 5 stars in the finals :D
We'll have to leave that open for now and continue to collect feedback and hold an internal discussion. I think we have a lot of really great people in the community though that legitimately vote so it may not be an issue right now.
The close scores are also an interesting point to bring up. Although I'd personally like to wait and see how things turn out over multiple competitions before anything changes, we maybe could have done a better job at getting people to go and vote in the finals, even those that don't take part in the competitions themselves.
I love the feedback we've gotten on the system so far though and I agree, things are MUCH better here! The best part about it though is that they're only going to improve because we actually have the ability to make changes without needing to go through processes on top of processes. I'm super stoked we have the competitions back and I can't wait for us to extend them to other titles we cover, breaking some ground there.
Anyway, I'll be leaving much of the decision making up to the Fan Creations team to see how we're going to proceed with any changes since they are much better than I at figuring it out - I'll just be the code monkey getting any potential changes out to everyone :D
One thing to throw out there, I would love to implement a progress bar showing how many cards you've voted on and how many you have to go. I can't say for certain it'll appear during competition 2 but maybe by 3 I'll be able to get that out there. Anything that can improve the voting experience is A+.
New Features
Hearthstone
Changes
General
Bug Fixes
General
Zilliax to me is very much in-between. There were a lot of fun moments with him which made it a great card and one that will certainly be missed for that reason, but looking at it overall from a game health perspective, Zilliax had some very evil moments.
I've actually got a fix for this that'll go out in the next site update
I especially love this since most of these cards won't be in Standard much longer!
Yeah, this is some INSANE art.
The next 5 weeks each give out 3 cards with a shared theme so its a great time to join in the Magic fun :)
Ah, they never covered that in the livestream, or if they did, huge mistake on my part.
Thanks!
Also, Demon pointed out that the latest round of card nerfs didn't have card images. That was just resolved.
They said per pack it will end up being a bit more than normal packs since the booster boxes have less packs in them due to the increased card size.
I imagine each booster box will be going for the usual price, no insane markup like Modern Horizons, though we may see an initially higher price due to demand as is always the case >.>
Get those pre-orders in so you can see them cancelled. lol
Changes
General
Hearthstone
Bug Fixes
Hearthstone
Shuffling isn't rigged and shouldn't be considered rigged until it can be proven otherwise. It would be a very bad day for any of the companies mentioned if it was discovered they were intentionally messing around with it, potentially leading to advantages for certain players/cards/whatever.
If you can provide statistically significant data that proves your point, I'll reopen the thread.
I moved your thread to the Custom Hearthstone forum since it is "fan created content" and fits really well here - the forum isn't just for custom cards!
Keep being awesome, griffior. I would love to see full art cards in the game so much and tying it to play requirements sounds like it could be a lot of fun.
I think this a neat product for them to put out and I'm probably going to have to pick up a couple of packs to play with. I really can't wait for this to be available on Arena though! My real question is if when it comes to Arena we'll get to keep the cards from the packs or if it'll be more of a for-fun thing.
Oh my god. Mana cheating is so fucking stupid at the degree they've taken it. AGREED.
Update: All Runeterra card data and card images have been updated for yesterday's patch.
A small update has gone out that fixes a couple of competition issues and site nav.
Changes
Magic
Hearthstone
Bug Fixes
General
Hearthstone
Dev Notes
We're paying attention to all the feedback that has been brought forth for the new Fan Creations Card Design Competition system. We won't be making any major changes for the first competition but we are currently considering exactly what we'll change. So far we're happy with the positive response we've seen from the launch of the system and we're looking forward to a healthy competitive environment for Hearthstone card design that simply isn't being offered elsewhere.