Okay so we are back to hard counter meme territory which I always tell you guys not to do because it's 100% more embarrassing when you lose and it won't work on ladder I can switch decks illoi was just one of my old brews that recently got popularized in standard but my eternal version is great too
Yeah again you can tech your Viktor into a 90% anti aggro configuration and it won't change the fact that an aggro deck just snap removed your champ twice which was supposed to be doing something.
Hence why it's not a good card in eternal like I said...cuz I know my stuff
Now could you possible make Viktor work in eternal? Yes but not the way people play him where they toss him to the wolves. No I'm talking build around Viktor that might be something of you really tried.
Champ tossing in general isn't great in eternal even though that's a staple of standard value play. I wouldnt do it here personally.
Let's talk about their card choices for the "best" eternal cards:
Pokey - can't get this one wrong
Shellfolk - yeah no way you can make shellfolk competitive you'll get otked or aggroed or sundiscd or a million other things
Allof traveler- a lot of Nora decks cut allof now, like amazing if you hit ramp and not much else
Inventive chemist - not a lot of midrange landmark running around either
Bilgewater:
Tf: a little slow now you wont find a ton of tf
Gangplank: midrange plunder will always be a deck I just dont think it's the best deck anymore to be running with midrange suffering in general
Fortune croaker: healing decks? Maybe? Idk
Allegience: yeah just a plunder card so one deck it hits and I haven't seen it in eternal yet
Demacia:
Lux: jayce lux isn't the scourge it used to be and while it will always be good aggro got a loooot of tools to out pace lazer
Rangers resolve: don't play this card its usually more effective to use equipment now
Sharpsight: they straight up printed a better version of this card
Bannerman: yes elites will always be playable but once again midrange is suffering
Freijord:
Feel the rush: this one is correct because even Jack turbo levels when this spell is played so it's combo uses are only increasing with time
Spirits unleashed: a little slow but I've played with this card before and it's not bad but again haven't seen it do much in eternal yet
Trundle: yeeeeeeep obviously
Troll chant: best burst in the game pound for pound
Ionia:
Deep med: there are straight up better draw cards printed even Ryze will usually pass on this now
Twin: you won't see a ton of twin these days like trying.to turbo a master yi or whatever usually they play the one mana equipment burst
Homecoming: best card in the ryze deck if they highroll multiple landmarks early not as good in other decks
Health potion: no
Noxious:
Legion rearguard - yeah best aggro card
House spider - still gets played in yassao because it's desperate for board presence that's about it, maybe Annie?
Flock - yeah best removal card in the game
Stun spider - sure pretty okay staple not amazing or anything
P and z:
Ezreal - yes very much so enables a unique wincon not found in other Champs
Viktor - has no home right now and nobody cares
Thermo - very good card
Get excited - Jinx only basically
Shadow:
Vile feast: not as amazing as it used to be as more and more one drops get printed that will out value it, you almost would rather tech quietus plus the new culling strike
Elise: has no real home right now iceborn legacy spiders sucks, and go hard sucks
Attrocity: doesn't get run after the nerf ever
The box: ummmmm no
Shurima:
Absolver - the game has moved beyond this card like you can play akshan Samara and instant rally with glave the power curve is just too high for one overwhelm spell to matter
Sivir - doesn't have a home right now, along with cards like Ash, undir, just slower midrange wincons
Endless devout - mono shurima staple so it gets a pass
Presavarium - sure always relavent
Targon:
Aphelios - gonna feel very bad with how slow he is
Zoe - yes because she's a free cycle so her dying doesn't matter, but her wincon is fairly irrelevant
Mountain goat - meh like very meh by today's standards
Sketcher - just no you can do better
This article gets a D+ from me 50% obvious picks 50% I haven't played eternal at all and am not an authority on this format.
They'll see once ladder starts in a week, have fun trying to climb with aphelios and spacey sketcher when people are otking you, aggroing you by turn 4, or doing some insanely broken combo.
Sorry I was letting you guys win because I wasn't sure what garbage you were playing.
When I realized it was literally nothing all I had to do was tech more draw
Yeah typically the Zoe variant always loses to my turbo Asol so good call
Yeah I wasn't really sure what that was and I was half asleep but it looks like fun
Not sure how competitive
Yeah seems like you were trying to hard counter a tier F deck?
What's your plan into anything else?
No plan apparently, don't counter remember?
Do the math if I win 5/5 with a deck you counter you get game 6
I switch I go 5/5 again that's a 90% climb
Oh right that meme deck you used to counter my aggro Mr lion, how did it fare into a healing deck one of the lowest tier options in the format?
This is why we don't hard counter remember?
Okay so we are back to hard counter meme territory which I always tell you guys not to do because it's 100% more embarrassing when you lose and it won't work on ladder I can switch decks illoi was just one of my old brews that recently got popularized in standard but my eternal version is great too
Now your just on tilt take a breath and try again tomorrow you might get me
Don't beat yourself up I am the king afterall
I like thralls too but that build had some issues
Yeah nope still don't get it it's okay it's a complicated format to master
Yeah and it's not as simple as playing fast either if you're bad at it.
I was making a more nuanced argument that didn't lead you getting rolled
The reason why swim and I can play fast is because we can burst 6 mana, look at your odds and say good luck.
While you're just jamming cards reactively and hoping for the best.
Yeah again you can tech your Viktor into a 90% anti aggro configuration and it won't change the fact that an aggro deck just snap removed your champ twice which was supposed to be doing something.
Hence why it's not a good card in eternal like I said...cuz I know my stuff
Now could you possible make Viktor work in eternal? Yes but not the way people play him where they toss him to the wolves. No I'm talking build around Viktor that might be something of you really tried.
Champ tossing in general isn't great in eternal even though that's a staple of standard value play. I wouldnt do it here personally.
Ruthless Rumble
Normal BO3
Runeterra Open pt 1 and pt 2
Thats basically the June schedule
So I do have to ask people of Eternal isn't a competitive format and doesn't matter to players in LOR
How come the release of what we already had (full card pool ladder) is being treated like a massive event.
It's almost like the whole standard is LOR now is kinda bs.
Yes standard is LOR but so is eternal deal with it!
Case and point someone was trying to play a nice little timelines equipment deck
I've seen it before...wait dead by turn 5
And if they weren't dead by turn 5 they would be dead by turn Ryze
Fast fast meta in eternal high power curve
Now it's possible they were running a grindly deck to punish all the players who teched anti-aggro then you get punished by aggro tho no winning.
The meta is what it is can't change it
https://masteringruneterra.com/top-four-eternal-cards-from-each-region/
Let's talk about their card choices for the "best" eternal cards:
Pokey - can't get this one wrong
Shellfolk - yeah no way you can make shellfolk competitive you'll get otked or aggroed or sundiscd or a million other things
Allof traveler- a lot of Nora decks cut allof now, like amazing if you hit ramp and not much else
Inventive chemist - not a lot of midrange landmark running around either
Bilgewater:
Tf: a little slow now you wont find a ton of tf
Gangplank: midrange plunder will always be a deck I just dont think it's the best deck anymore to be running with midrange suffering in general
Fortune croaker: healing decks? Maybe? Idk
Allegience: yeah just a plunder card so one deck it hits and I haven't seen it in eternal yet
Demacia:
Lux: jayce lux isn't the scourge it used to be and while it will always be good aggro got a loooot of tools to out pace lazer
Rangers resolve: don't play this card its usually more effective to use equipment now
Sharpsight: they straight up printed a better version of this card
Bannerman: yes elites will always be playable but once again midrange is suffering
Freijord:
Feel the rush: this one is correct because even Jack turbo levels when this spell is played so it's combo uses are only increasing with time
Spirits unleashed: a little slow but I've played with this card before and it's not bad but again haven't seen it do much in eternal yet
Trundle: yeeeeeeep obviously
Troll chant: best burst in the game pound for pound
Ionia:
Deep med: there are straight up better draw cards printed even Ryze will usually pass on this now
Twin: you won't see a ton of twin these days like trying.to turbo a master yi or whatever usually they play the one mana equipment burst
Homecoming: best card in the ryze deck if they highroll multiple landmarks early not as good in other decks
Health potion: no
Noxious:
Legion rearguard - yeah best aggro card
House spider - still gets played in yassao because it's desperate for board presence that's about it, maybe Annie?
Flock - yeah best removal card in the game
Stun spider - sure pretty okay staple not amazing or anything
P and z:
Ezreal - yes very much so enables a unique wincon not found in other Champs
Viktor - has no home right now and nobody cares
Thermo - very good card
Get excited - Jinx only basically
Shadow:
Vile feast: not as amazing as it used to be as more and more one drops get printed that will out value it, you almost would rather tech quietus plus the new culling strike
Elise: has no real home right now iceborn legacy spiders sucks, and go hard sucks
Attrocity: doesn't get run after the nerf ever
The box: ummmmm no
Shurima:
Absolver - the game has moved beyond this card like you can play akshan Samara and instant rally with glave the power curve is just too high for one overwhelm spell to matter
Sivir - doesn't have a home right now, along with cards like Ash, undir, just slower midrange wincons
Endless devout - mono shurima staple so it gets a pass
Presavarium - sure always relavent
Targon:
Aphelios - gonna feel very bad with how slow he is
Zoe - yes because she's a free cycle so her dying doesn't matter, but her wincon is fairly irrelevant
Mountain goat - meh like very meh by today's standards
Sketcher - just no you can do better
This article gets a D+ from me 50% obvious picks 50% I haven't played eternal at all and am not an authority on this format.
They'll see once ladder starts in a week, have fun trying to climb with aphelios and spacey sketcher when people are otking you, aggroing you by turn 4, or doing some insanely broken combo.
Thats what this format really is LOR modern.
Don't just run inferior versions of my deck I've said this before.
It's tested I just went like 90% against an entire lobby of top tier snipers
What else do you want?
Okay we are done here you all got top tiered every single one of you
S tier confirmed
Oops there goes gravity boy
Mom's spaghetti
Concede faster after I board clear u in an aggro shell
Sorry did your top tier Annie ezreal list get top tiered by me?
Qq
It's almost like I've selectively run this deck into every top tier matchup and already top tiered it.
You want to pull out some jayce next?
Been there done that
Wow another pile of crap rofl
You know you have to actually climb right?
Let's see you run this jank at the end of the month in bronze tier enjoy
Wow a big pile of crap with a top curve heal champ got top tiered almost like you're bad or something?
In case we are counting I'm 10 and 1 with Ryse being the only winner you guys give up yet?