Yeah like you can build a do nothing garbage and just bate an avalanche but once again, how do you win against every other deck in the game?
So once again hard counter or nothing right?
This is what makes a tier list its not harr harr this deck is literally unbeatable
It's har har you have to bend so fucking far over backwards to counter this that your climbing chance on ladder is exactly naught point nothing on zero.
Just like a "pro player" we are going to go through every inclusion in my deck and why it's top tier:
3 all out - if people remember shurima had a 2+1 burst and it was top tier and demanded a nerf, well here we are good card
3 pigeons - another 3/3 for one that is sometimes a 4/4
3 saboteur - I've come around on this card since vile feast and pokey aren't the auto includes they used to be, it's very good for what this deck is trying to do - board presence plus burn
3 Rearguard - required a nerf at one point it was so good, staple aggro card
3 Butchers - another staple card 3/3 for 1
3 Make It rain - on its own in a vacuum it's okay, but really shines as a set up for pirotte plus butcher
3 pirouette - might be op it's so good, imagine if guile and parlay had a baby and you're halfway there
3 Samara- what doesn't she do, she burns, she Diana's, she has a good champ spell, and ocassionally you level her
3 mf - she complicates board math and pushes a bit of burn, and has a good champ spell but probably the most "fair" card in the deck
3 noxian furver - complicates board and face math while burning. You can probably measure winrate by number drawn
3 zap sprayfin - basically elusive tf as far as this deck is concerned
3 eyes of nox - they nerfed it to focus speed and that effects aggro not at all because you'll always use it preemptively
3 decimate - they nerfed it and still doesn't matter when you consider how low thr mana curve is of this new and improved pirate aggro shell
So there is the S tier shell, a lot of things have got cut, demolitionist felt too slow, I knew that I didn't need any more go wide tools, I learned the power of all out, but largely the strategy stays the same
Spam high value one drops, wait for opponents response, leverage make it rain and piroette to win on tempo, push as much dmg as possible, then burn them out.
1 tech - I'm gonna use farron because having 15 one cost cards can deplete your resources fast and this gives the deck unexpected staying power.
All in all it's very hard to beat without a hard counter. Like yes you can run Elise, but then have fun beating all the solitaire decks out there.
Nora probably faires a little better but you'd be surprised, and they can't statistically hit Nora on curve every game even if it seems like it
You can spam healing but I guarantee I win that matchup everytime, so yes its basically hard counter or nothing, and then your hard counter loses to everything else.
Nifty aggro is the eternal meta now, and even pro players will have no choice but to admit it's impact. I'm basically the new Swim now sorry.
So now that everyone has moved into the acceptance stage I basically just get insta conceded in eternal.
All the best players in LOR tried to step up to the plate and make Nifty Eternal aggro look bad
Mostly by board spamming good trading followers like that's some kind of answer
But eventually I won enough matches anyway that everyone has accepted the S tier status of Samara MF
And it will hit top of S tier for Eternal tier lists
It was bound to happen eventually, I've been absolutely raking good players over the coals with my off meta builds that my one foray into meta territory was bound to be unstopable.
So yeah discussion over, thanks for playing.
I am the king of eternal and I'll let you know the next time I build an S tier list for the format.
----rant----
Pro players will try to deceive you into thinking ratioing matters, that by moving 1 card they somehow "fixed" your deck and can take credit for it.
No that bullshit, it's the shell that matters.
The person who decided to cheat out Nasus with a landmark first made that deck.
Just like I learned that Samara was all in all a more efficient inclusion over TF in pirate aggro hence its my shell
Or inefficient memey print decks are Sunnys claim to fame.
Or Grapplr keep trying to make Karma work, who may be unironically good now in standard.
Or Majin made Ryze cancer
Those are their decks and this is mine plain and simple
Eternal is a very broad meta, to the point that it becomes difficult to objectively talk about decks without inserting a little personal bias but let's try our best by using last season as a base:
1. Elites - I do not think that elites are broken anymore, as someone who used them to easily hit masters in record time last season, they actually feel quite slow by eternal standards.
- you can cast your big 9 cost rally and opponents will have no problem chumping 6 times in one turn by the time the spell is online
2. Annie Jhin - this is objectively not the best way to run aggro anymore, once again it feels slow and inflexible. Spamming 4/2 stuns is not good enough
- you'll feel that turn 1 Annie isn't the terror she used to be, and I dont even know the last time I saw tibers
3. Jayce - objectively not the best control shell anymore, spamming 3/3s and pinging for 3 used to be the only good answer to elites. But as we mentioned if elites are too slow then jayce is way too slow
What's gotten better:
Pirate aggro - Samara as amazing as she has been for standard, is way better in eternal where you essentially have an unlimited supply of high value one drops.
- It's not a complicated deck essentially being the LOR equivalent of mtg humans, just cheap good units with good effects at a low mana cost plus some cheap spells.
Ryze - it's hard to argue that with Ionia getting its own version of tavern keeper plus mana cheating that ryze isn't very good now. It will always be a high variance deck but it remains a scary matchup.
Turbo Nasus - easy wincon that got better control spells in the form of shadow isles very own culling strike, plus the already existing quietus makes that 1 ->2 control spell formula very consistent so you can play solitaire all you want.
- good tech options as well for board clears, and healing means that this sneaky last season deck will be top tier this season
Sundisc - speaking of uninteractive wincons, while remaining an off meta pick in eternal it will have its place as the ultimate solitaire deck. While it's weak into aggro (very weak) it's simultaneously a very reliable way to punish a large variety of deck builds
Ramp - you'll notice a bit of a trend here where your deck is either A (very ******* fast) or (very uninteractive) eternal is essentially going to be LOR modern and thats the trend you notice in expanded card pools.
- I love midrange, and straight up control but you will find it struggle to make a home on the external tier list. So 20/20 on mana 7 kinda good. Along with infinite free card value.
Lurk - the ultimate highroll deck will always have a place, and while statically it will be tier 3 it won't feel that way when they hit the dreded double champ setups.
Nora - Nora isn't a deck Nora is legion. It doesnt matter how well you think you've prepped the marchup, or your winrate record into this champion sometimes she will just bs you, and you'll get real salty, and there will be nothing you can do about king granny.
So yeah in conclusion the "competitive decks" from last season are bad in eternal, the uninteractive garbage from last season are good!
And the only aggro decks that are worth playing are fast enough to kill your opponent before they can play solitaire.
Thats my eternal tier list so you're welcome Majin for your introduction to this messy, messy and beautiful format.
Pirrotte with Swain confirmed pretty good now remove all the garbage aggro cards from that list and include a boat control shell and youre halfway there.
So in card games there is what is commonly referred to as a deck shell.
Essentially the central theme of your deck that let's you win games.
It consists of things like synergy, a curve, draw for deck thinning, wincons, creatures, and legendaries.
Then you have your tech, your answers to the current meta game, they can be landmarks (artifacts), or spells, or creatures with aura effects or on play abilities.
The mistake I commonly see in eternal is that people either build a deck with 100% tech or 100% shell they can't mix the two.
Lurk is lurk and does lurk things
This is a ping deck it pings and does ping things.
In reality you have one handful of tech, and one handful of shell and not a lot of laddering flexibility.
When I build my decks I try to be as flexible as possible.
Yes this is a ramp deck but it has 3 avalanches, 3 blighted, 3 harsh winds, and 3 tavern keepers.
Thats the tech ^ but that doesn't stop me from turbo leveling asol on mana 7
So if you want to build a p and z ping spam deck, then your "shell" is Annie Ezreal sometimes splashes Katarina.
Includes 3 conservatory, and 3 broadmanes for wincons.
Even if you're trying to build something original you need to follow the "shell" and tech formula.
Too much shell in eternal and your deck is inflexibile, too much tech and now you insta lose certain ladder matchups.
The key to being good at winning in a large cardpool is not mastering matchups or win tables its being able to go into 90% of games with confidence that you will win regardless of the 500 cards your opponent might use.
You hard teched tripple frost bite into healing board clear and still got top tiered, almost like you're bad or something?
Also that pile of garbage would t last 10 seconds on ladder nevermind with me thr player you literally sniped and couldn't beat
Yeah so my top tier goes 50/50 with ryze the other top tier.
Sounds about right rofl
Case closed
Also auto draw 3 landmarks is high variance, you'll have to concede the rest of the games putting my decks win percentage higher
Oh you bet your sweet bippy that fiora player got top tiered
Sorry zillian memer you got top tiered
Sorry bad deep player I teched against pings top tiered
Sorry bad thralls player top tiered
Sorry azir irelia player top tiered I can do this all day
Sorry no name mono shurima.playet who wasn't even worth remembering you got top tiered
Sorry iced tea you got top tiered
Sorry meatbox you got top tiered I'm gonna call out every single player I mangle just to drive home the point
You couldn't win against me with a deck full of avalanches, shadow removal, frostbite and healing in anivia
Get top tiered rofl
I'll go back to the demo variant to redevalue pings with blade dancer lol have fuuuuuun
Yep ya got fucked so we have two variants one hyper aggro and original og
One has an insane winrate and one counters the counters
Yeah like you can build a do nothing garbage and just bate an avalanche but once again, how do you win against every other deck in the game?
So once again hard counter or nothing right?
This is what makes a tier list its not harr harr this deck is literally unbeatable
It's har har you have to bend so fucking far over backwards to counter this that your climbing chance on ladder is exactly naught point nothing on zero.
Just like a "pro player" we are going to go through every inclusion in my deck and why it's top tier:
3 all out - if people remember shurima had a 2+1 burst and it was top tier and demanded a nerf, well here we are good card
3 pigeons - another 3/3 for one that is sometimes a 4/4
3 saboteur - I've come around on this card since vile feast and pokey aren't the auto includes they used to be, it's very good for what this deck is trying to do - board presence plus burn
3 Rearguard - required a nerf at one point it was so good, staple aggro card
3 Butchers - another staple card 3/3 for 1
3 Make It rain - on its own in a vacuum it's okay, but really shines as a set up for pirotte plus butcher
3 pirouette - might be op it's so good, imagine if guile and parlay had a baby and you're halfway there
3 Samara- what doesn't she do, she burns, she Diana's, she has a good champ spell, and ocassionally you level her
3 mf - she complicates board math and pushes a bit of burn, and has a good champ spell but probably the most "fair" card in the deck
3 noxian furver - complicates board and face math while burning. You can probably measure winrate by number drawn
3 zap sprayfin - basically elusive tf as far as this deck is concerned
3 eyes of nox - they nerfed it to focus speed and that effects aggro not at all because you'll always use it preemptively
3 decimate - they nerfed it and still doesn't matter when you consider how low thr mana curve is of this new and improved pirate aggro shell
So there is the S tier shell, a lot of things have got cut, demolitionist felt too slow, I knew that I didn't need any more go wide tools, I learned the power of all out, but largely the strategy stays the same
Spam high value one drops, wait for opponents response, leverage make it rain and piroette to win on tempo, push as much dmg as possible, then burn them out.
1 tech - I'm gonna use farron because having 15 one cost cards can deplete your resources fast and this gives the deck unexpected staying power.
All in all it's very hard to beat without a hard counter. Like yes you can run Elise, but then have fun beating all the solitaire decks out there.
Nora probably faires a little better but you'd be surprised, and they can't statistically hit Nora on curve every game even if it seems like it
You can spam healing but I guarantee I win that matchup everytime, so yes its basically hard counter or nothing, and then your hard counter loses to everything else.
Nifty aggro is the eternal meta now, and even pro players will have no choice but to admit it's impact. I'm basically the new Swim now sorry.
Typically the meta cycle goes like this:
Rage -> denial -> bargaining -> acceptance
So now that everyone has moved into the acceptance stage I basically just get insta conceded in eternal.
All the best players in LOR tried to step up to the plate and make Nifty Eternal aggro look bad
Mostly by board spamming good trading followers like that's some kind of answer
But eventually I won enough matches anyway that everyone has accepted the S tier status of Samara MF
And it will hit top of S tier for Eternal tier lists
It was bound to happen eventually, I've been absolutely raking good players over the coals with my off meta builds that my one foray into meta territory was bound to be unstopable.
So yeah discussion over, thanks for playing.
I am the king of eternal and I'll let you know the next time I build an S tier list for the format.
----rant----
Pro players will try to deceive you into thinking ratioing matters, that by moving 1 card they somehow "fixed" your deck and can take credit for it.
No that bullshit, it's the shell that matters.
The person who decided to cheat out Nasus with a landmark first made that deck.
Just like I learned that Samara was all in all a more efficient inclusion over TF in pirate aggro hence its my shell
Or inefficient memey print decks are Sunnys claim to fame.
Or Grapplr keep trying to make Karma work, who may be unironically good now in standard.
Or Majin made Ryze cancer
Those are their decks and this is mine plain and simple
https://masteringruneterra.com/eternal-tier-list/
Eternal is a very broad meta, to the point that it becomes difficult to objectively talk about decks without inserting a little personal bias but let's try our best by using last season as a base:
1. Elites - I do not think that elites are broken anymore, as someone who used them to easily hit masters in record time last season, they actually feel quite slow by eternal standards.
- you can cast your big 9 cost rally and opponents will have no problem chumping 6 times in one turn by the time the spell is online
2. Annie Jhin - this is objectively not the best way to run aggro anymore, once again it feels slow and inflexible. Spamming 4/2 stuns is not good enough
- you'll feel that turn 1 Annie isn't the terror she used to be, and I dont even know the last time I saw tibers
3. Jayce - objectively not the best control shell anymore, spamming 3/3s and pinging for 3 used to be the only good answer to elites. But as we mentioned if elites are too slow then jayce is way too slow
What's gotten better:
Pirate aggro - Samara as amazing as she has been for standard, is way better in eternal where you essentially have an unlimited supply of high value one drops.
- It's not a complicated deck essentially being the LOR equivalent of mtg humans, just cheap good units with good effects at a low mana cost plus some cheap spells.
Ryze - it's hard to argue that with Ionia getting its own version of tavern keeper plus mana cheating that ryze isn't very good now. It will always be a high variance deck but it remains a scary matchup.
Turbo Nasus - easy wincon that got better control spells in the form of shadow isles very own culling strike, plus the already existing quietus makes that 1 ->2 control spell formula very consistent so you can play solitaire all you want.
- good tech options as well for board clears, and healing means that this sneaky last season deck will be top tier this season
Sundisc - speaking of uninteractive wincons, while remaining an off meta pick in eternal it will have its place as the ultimate solitaire deck. While it's weak into aggro (very weak) it's simultaneously a very reliable way to punish a large variety of deck builds
Ramp - you'll notice a bit of a trend here where your deck is either A (very ******* fast) or (very uninteractive) eternal is essentially going to be LOR modern and thats the trend you notice in expanded card pools.
- I love midrange, and straight up control but you will find it struggle to make a home on the external tier list. So 20/20 on mana 7 kinda good. Along with infinite free card value.
Lurk - the ultimate highroll deck will always have a place, and while statically it will be tier 3 it won't feel that way when they hit the dreded double champ setups.
Nora - Nora isn't a deck Nora is legion. It doesnt matter how well you think you've prepped the marchup, or your winrate record into this champion sometimes she will just bs you, and you'll get real salty, and there will be nothing you can do about king granny.
So yeah in conclusion the "competitive decks" from last season are bad in eternal, the uninteractive garbage from last season are good!
And the only aggro decks that are worth playing are fast enough to kill your opponent before they can play solitaire.
Thats my eternal tier list so you're welcome Majin for your introduction to this messy, messy and beautiful format.
Yeah so turns out people are just gonna run my deck and rotate 1 card.
You know that thing I said would happen
Thanks for shopping from the nifty deck school
Have a nice day
If you're gonna run my deck just run my deck it's better.
Also elites kinda bad now eh?
Cool spider deck bro let me know when it does something
Cool shromes deck or something?
Idk even know this is all jank to me
Cool tripple Rumble deck bro but where did they go?
I can do this all day
Pirrotte with Swain confirmed pretty good now remove all the garbage aggro cards from that list and include a boat control shell and youre halfway there.
So in card games there is what is commonly referred to as a deck shell.
Essentially the central theme of your deck that let's you win games.
It consists of things like synergy, a curve, draw for deck thinning, wincons, creatures, and legendaries.
Then you have your tech, your answers to the current meta game, they can be landmarks (artifacts), or spells, or creatures with aura effects or on play abilities.
The mistake I commonly see in eternal is that people either build a deck with 100% tech or 100% shell they can't mix the two.
Lurk is lurk and does lurk things
This is a ping deck it pings and does ping things.
In reality you have one handful of tech, and one handful of shell and not a lot of laddering flexibility.
When I build my decks I try to be as flexible as possible.
Yes this is a ramp deck but it has 3 avalanches, 3 blighted, 3 harsh winds, and 3 tavern keepers.
Thats the tech ^ but that doesn't stop me from turbo leveling asol on mana 7
So if you want to build a p and z ping spam deck, then your "shell" is Annie Ezreal sometimes splashes Katarina.
Includes 3 conservatory, and 3 broadmanes for wincons.
Even if you're trying to build something original you need to follow the "shell" and tech formula.
Too much shell in eternal and your deck is inflexibile, too much tech and now you insta lose certain ladder matchups.
The key to being good at winning in a large cardpool is not mastering matchups or win tables its being able to go into 90% of games with confidence that you will win regardless of the 500 cards your opponent might use.
Flexibility + Adaptability
Thats what makes me king 👑