People do get irrationally angry about getting beaten with "their own cards." I used to be a person like that. But then I played Eternal for the last 2.5 years, where stealing cards, playing cards from the graveyard, messing with the player's hand, forcing the other player to discard - these all happen quite regularly. So, you either get over it, or you have a rotten experience. I got over it. But most of the LoR playerbase is not coming from that kind of background, so they are still going to be in the phase of being irrationally angry about their cards getting stolen.
How are you leveling up Elise with this deck? Kill your own Aristocrats with Vile Feast and Chronicler of Ruin? I guess I don't understand why this deck has 3x Elise and almost zero spiders.
Also my friend your post will inspire others - like you say this new system is potentially easier to reach the hallowed echelon of Legend so if you used to get Rank 5 on the old system, Legend is now calling your name!!!
It's most definitely easier, as noted by the rank 45k+ of the original post :) ... But I personally have no issue with it being easier. I'll probably try to hit legend myself (for only the second time) next month, just for the free legendary
How is 6 deathrattles sufficient here? I see Teron Gorefiend, who wants at least 3x deathrattles on the board when he comes down ... but there are only 6 total deathrattles (other than himself) in the entire 30 cards (plus two copycats who require one of the 6 actual deathrattles to be on the board).
NPR is, indeed, an excellent source of information. As I would expect from a reputable source like NPR, they get the information correct. Mr. Kennedy, however, twisted it quite dramatically.
As that NPR article states, vaccines do NOT cause Polio. They prevent it. However, when the live version of the vaccine is used, some of the virus gets out into the environment through excrement (when the kids poop). After that, the viruses sometimes "regained their ability to paralyze unvaccinated children." Leftover viruses from the vaccination process can infect people who have NOT been vaccinated. The vaccine itself does NOT cause the cases of Polio mentioned in the article. And by the way, there were a whopping 27 total cases of Polio reported anywhere in the world as of the writing of that article in that year (2017). Why such a small number of cases? I think by now the answer to that is crystal clear ...
Yet again, the argument that people SHOULD get vaccinated is reinforced, as the vaccine protects against all forms of Polio if you've been vaccinated (even vaccine-mutated forms).
Hand washing and clean water are very important, no question. Neither of them do you any good, however, in the case of, say, measles, which is so contagious that you can catch it just by walking into a room where someone with measles has been, even an hour after they left.
The only way to protect against things like measles is a good vaccine. Side note: measles was almost eradicated in the world, until the anti vaccine movement entered the scene. Now measles outbreaks are starting to happen again, when there hadn't been any for decades. Why? Because some people are refusing life saving vaccines.
You're a fan of quoting the WHO. Here's their article about measles. Direct quote from that article, "Before the introduction of measles vaccine in 1963 and widespread vaccination, major epidemics occurred approximately every 2–3 years and measles caused an estimated 2.6 million deaths each year."
Unless we get a wide-spread vaccine for Covid-19, it could easily have similar statements made about it in 20 years. But that won't actually happen, because a safe vaccine WILL be developed. And even if people like you refuse to get it, you'll (luckily) still be protected by the herd immunity granted to the community overall, due to most other people getting said vaccine. Herd immunity is explained here (bonus - it also talks about measles as well).
Nice try with that link. I read most of it. It's not peer reviewed. And forgive me if I don't consider a professional politician (Robert Kennedy, author of the article) to be an unbiased expert on health concerns. I don't even consider him to be reliable, especially when he says thousands of girls were given a vaccine and in the same sentence says that 50 out of the 500 who got the vaccine had major side effects. Does 500 = thousands these days?
TLDR - the article you linked is one of the most obviously biased things I've read in quite a while, and I wouldn't be surprised if some of it is just plain false.
Major side effects to commonly-used (non-experimental) vaccines are extremely, extremely rare. If you care to assert otherwise, cite some published, peer reviewed evidence.
The fact about vaccines is that they made everything you enjoy about the modern world possible. Why have we never had a pandemic like this before in our lifetimes? Vaccines. That's why.
It took a brand new illness to make us have to worry and protect ourselves from possible infection by a disease we have no vaccine for yet. But before vaccines, massive outbreaks of deadly illness and widespread deaths from it were a common occurrence.
Vaccines do immeasurably more good for humanity than the extremely uncommon bad that comes from side effects.
Those are the facts of the situation. And this pandemic will not fully resolve until we have herd immunity to Covid-19, thanks to wide spread, affordable vaccines that are being developed even as I write this response.
Here ya go, the quote you asked for. I highlighted the part that shows that you're upset.
Quote From Kovachut
Personally I would have liked the new ladder way more if it were a bit too challenging. Maybe I am just kinda salty for gaining easy stars prior to Diamond 5
I find it pretty silly to be upset about reaching legend "too easily." Why on Earth are you upset about it being easier and more relaxed? Some kind of elitist attitude? Or have you just been conditioned over years of playing to believe that only the very, very best, who grind for hours and hours, should be allowed to get to legend?
Under the old system, there were hundreds of thousands players (maybe millions) who stopped playing at rank 5 because the grind to legend was sooooooooooo absurd. They had the skill to do it; they just didn't want to invest the minimum of 10-hours needed to actually grind it out (assuming roughly 6 minutes per game and roughly 62% winrate). And of course, most people will not manage a 62% winrate from rank 5 to legend, so it will be (a lot) longer than 10 hours for most. I did it once, almost by accident, when a deck I was playing turned out to be way more successful than I expected it to be. Got to rank 2 with it, and decided to just keep going. But even that was a grind, and I had to switch decks, because the meta caught up with the deck that got me to rank 2.
I would NEVER, EVER have done legend again, EVER, under the old system, same as the vast majority of the playerbase, because the grind was beyond absurd. I welcome a system that is less absurdly grindy. I might even try to hit legend again.
Did 4 more games today, lost all 4. This is in Bronze mind you, the old rank 25-20 range. I used to get rank 5 every single month for the last 6 months (since I started), slowly climbing throughout the month, but I just can't win a single game since all my opponents are Legends with full top tier decks, my halfass decks just can't cope ugh
It matches you against people whose overall win-loss record matches yours. It also doesn't show their rank, so I'm kinda curious how you know you're being matched against legends
Your predictions are duly noted. Here's my prediction: within 1 week of full release, someone will have figured out an effective counter to demon hunter, and will skyrocket up the ladder to high legend due to so much of the meta being full of demon hunters. Others will also start countering DH. After another week, things will balance out to basically normal levels, and DH will have roughly the same share of the meta as any other deck.
And the argument that they start with less total cards than the others only truly matter in wild, and I'm commenting on standard. I think that goes without saying.
Demon Hunter has a grand total of 45 class cards, period. 45 cards for all possible archetypes and deck builds you might want to make.
After rotation, every other class will have about 70 class cards to use in Standard, for all possible archetypes and builds. This is enough for variety, and it allows bad cards to be absorbed without affecting the ability to still build a deck. If a typical percentage of DH cards were average, niche, below average, or just plain weird (every class gets a few of these kinds every expansion), they wouldn't have enough cards leftover for more than 1-2 different archetypes at the absolute best case scenario.
Given they have a bit more than half as many class cards as other classes in standard after rotation, their cards have to have a higher average quality, or the class would be essentially unplayable at its launch.
@Shadows - great reviews of the cards. But Sightless watcher does not work the way you suggested. It discovers a card from somewhere in the deck, then moves only that card to the top. It says nothing about your draws after that one card.
This is probably the most powerful effect in the basic set for demon hunter. It will be auto included in every demon hunter deck. I'm honestly surprised that more people aren't seeing this. Also, it does NOT show the next three cards; I have no idea why people keep thinking that's how it works. It puts one card from somewhere in the deck on top. That's it.
People do get irrationally angry about getting beaten with "their own cards." I used to be a person like that. But then I played Eternal for the last 2.5 years, where stealing cards, playing cards from the graveyard, messing with the player's hand, forcing the other player to discard - these all happen quite regularly. So, you either get over it, or you have a rotten experience. I got over it. But most of the LoR playerbase is not coming from that kind of background, so they are still going to be in the phase of being irrationally angry about their cards getting stolen.
How are you leveling up Elise with this deck? Kill your own Aristocrats with Vile Feast and Chronicler of Ruin? I guess I don't understand why this deck has 3x Elise and almost zero spiders.
Is this deck still good?
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It's most definitely easier, as noted by the rank 45k+ of the original post :) ... But I personally have no issue with it being easier. I'll probably try to hit legend myself (for only the second time) next month, just for the free legendary
How is 6 deathrattles sufficient here? I see Teron Gorefiend, who wants at least 3x deathrattles on the board when he comes down ... but there are only 6 total deathrattles (other than himself) in the entire 30 cards (plus two copycats who require one of the 6 actual deathrattles to be on the board).
They already nerfed Skull of Guldan once.
NPR is, indeed, an excellent source of information. As I would expect from a reputable source like NPR, they get the information correct. Mr. Kennedy, however, twisted it quite dramatically.
As that NPR article states, vaccines do NOT cause Polio. They prevent it. However, when the live version of the vaccine is used, some of the virus gets out into the environment through excrement (when the kids poop). After that, the viruses sometimes "regained their ability to paralyze unvaccinated children." Leftover viruses from the vaccination process can infect people who have NOT been vaccinated. The vaccine itself does NOT cause the cases of Polio mentioned in the article. And by the way, there were a whopping 27 total cases of Polio reported anywhere in the world as of the writing of that article in that year (2017). Why such a small number of cases? I think by now the answer to that is crystal clear ...
Yet again, the argument that people SHOULD get vaccinated is reinforced, as the vaccine protects against all forms of Polio if you've been vaccinated (even vaccine-mutated forms).
I honestly don't really care if they die. They had plenty of chance to shine. Time to move on.
Hand washing and clean water are very important, no question. Neither of them do you any good, however, in the case of, say, measles, which is so contagious that you can catch it just by walking into a room where someone with measles has been, even an hour after they left.
The only way to protect against things like measles is a good vaccine. Side note: measles was almost eradicated in the world, until the anti vaccine movement entered the scene. Now measles outbreaks are starting to happen again, when there hadn't been any for decades. Why? Because some people are refusing life saving vaccines.
You're a fan of quoting the WHO. Here's their article about measles. Direct quote from that article, "Before the introduction of measles vaccine in 1963 and widespread vaccination, major epidemics occurred approximately every 2–3 years and measles caused an estimated 2.6 million deaths each year."
Unless we get a wide-spread vaccine for Covid-19, it could easily have similar statements made about it in 20 years. But that won't actually happen, because a safe vaccine WILL be developed. And even if people like you refuse to get it, you'll (luckily) still be protected by the herd immunity granted to the community overall, due to most other people getting said vaccine. Herd immunity is explained here (bonus - it also talks about measles as well).
Nice try with that link. I read most of it. It's not peer reviewed. And forgive me if I don't consider a professional politician (Robert Kennedy, author of the article) to be an unbiased expert on health concerns. I don't even consider him to be reliable, especially when he says thousands of girls were given a vaccine and in the same sentence says that 50 out of the 500 who got the vaccine had major side effects. Does 500 = thousands these days?
TLDR - the article you linked is one of the most obviously biased things I've read in quite a while, and I wouldn't be surprised if some of it is just plain false.
Major side effects to commonly-used (non-experimental) vaccines are extremely, extremely rare. If you care to assert otherwise, cite some published, peer reviewed evidence.
The fact about vaccines is that they made everything you enjoy about the modern world possible. Why have we never had a pandemic like this before in our lifetimes? Vaccines. That's why.
It took a brand new illness to make us have to worry and protect ourselves from possible infection by a disease we have no vaccine for yet. But before vaccines, massive outbreaks of deadly illness and widespread deaths from it were a common occurrence.
Vaccines do immeasurably more good for humanity than the extremely uncommon bad that comes from side effects.
Those are the facts of the situation. And this pandemic will not fully resolve until we have herd immunity to Covid-19, thanks to wide spread, affordable vaccines that are being developed even as I write this response.
Here ya go, the quote you asked for. I highlighted the part that shows that you're upset.
I find it pretty silly to be upset about reaching legend "too easily." Why on Earth are you upset about it being easier and more relaxed? Some kind of elitist attitude? Or have you just been conditioned over years of playing to believe that only the very, very best, who grind for hours and hours, should be allowed to get to legend?
Under the old system, there were hundreds of thousands players (maybe millions) who stopped playing at rank 5 because the grind to legend was sooooooooooo absurd. They had the skill to do it; they just didn't want to invest the minimum of 10-hours needed to actually grind it out (assuming roughly 6 minutes per game and roughly 62% winrate). And of course, most people will not manage a 62% winrate from rank 5 to legend, so it will be (a lot) longer than 10 hours for most. I did it once, almost by accident, when a deck I was playing turned out to be way more successful than I expected it to be. Got to rank 2 with it, and decided to just keep going. But even that was a grind, and I had to switch decks, because the meta caught up with the deck that got me to rank 2.
I would NEVER, EVER have done legend again, EVER, under the old system, same as the vast majority of the playerbase, because the grind was beyond absurd. I welcome a system that is less absurdly grindy. I might even try to hit legend again.
It matches you against people whose overall win-loss record matches yours. It also doesn't show their rank, so I'm kinda curious how you know you're being matched against legends
Your predictions are duly noted. Here's my prediction: within 1 week of full release, someone will have figured out an effective counter to demon hunter, and will skyrocket up the ladder to high legend due to so much of the meta being full of demon hunters. Others will also start countering DH. After another week, things will balance out to basically normal levels, and DH will have roughly the same share of the meta as any other deck.
Where did you see Kibler and Firebat playing with the new cards?
Demon Hunter has a grand total of 45 class cards, period. 45 cards for all possible archetypes and deck builds you might want to make.
After rotation, every other class will have about 70 class cards to use in Standard, for all possible archetypes and builds. This is enough for variety, and it allows bad cards to be absorbed without affecting the ability to still build a deck. If a typical percentage of DH cards were average, niche, below average, or just plain weird (every class gets a few of these kinds every expansion), they wouldn't have enough cards leftover for more than 1-2 different archetypes at the absolute best case scenario.
Given they have a bit more than half as many class cards as other classes in standard after rotation, their cards have to have a higher average quality, or the class would be essentially unplayable at its launch.
@Shadows - great reviews of the cards. But Sightless watcher does not work the way you suggested. It discovers a card from somewhere in the deck, then moves only that card to the top. It says nothing about your draws after that one card.
This is probably the most powerful effect in the basic set for demon hunter. It will be auto included in every demon hunter deck. I'm honestly surprised that more people aren't seeing this. Also, it does NOT show the next three cards; I have no idea why people keep thinking that's how it works. It puts one card from somewhere in the deck on top. That's it.