Even though it costs 4x as much, I feel like the new paladin spell will be much better than Smuggler's Run.
Also a more niche but more powerful Violet Teacher might not be bad if there's a lot of cheap holy spells
well i think smugglers run is still betetr de 4times cheaper, which can be seen how effective it is in wild mech pally, which will gladly(and does) run smugglers run, but wont use the 4mana version even if gives board and deck aswell.
I'm really happy that Bluegill Warrior didn't get it's charge removed, but i'm sad that Stonetusk Boar keeps charge. Stonetusk Boar is i.m.o. too problematic because it's always 1 good card away from being able to become oppresive or to give rise to a really unfun strategy. Bluegill Warrior kinda has the same thing going on, but because it costs 1 more mana it's probably a bit harder to try use in the same kind of combos as Stonetusk Boar.
Btw, for those probably screaming: "But it's in wild now, those combos won't be that strong after they print 1 synergistic card!", well look back at what pre-nerf Hysteria did to Wretched Tiller. That "one card" turned a bad 1 drop that pretty much never saw play, into a really unfun combo piece.
Even after everything i just said, i'm happy they listened to the community. That feels pretty good, and it feels even better considering the fact that most of the complaining came from the Wild community! Normally they ignore Wild and it's community a lot, but the fact that they listened now is amazing!
Hysteria was a turn 6/7 OTK that had twice of deck.
Caverns cant even comapre to that At all. Its way slower,weaker and inconsistent.
Weell...I would guess your indifference to Boar stems from you forgetting they are fully unnerfing Quest Rogue. I dare say Boar is more a cause for concern than Bluegill if you have objections to charge.
Sonya is not 5/5 for tokens,prpe reduces by 2 not 3 and giggling is 6 not 5.
and evrythign else,espcially aggro is way stronger then before.
Of all these changes, only Leper Gnome, Undertaker, and Arcane Golem springs to mind as perhaps a tad too far, even in wild, where hyper aggro is legit.
Leper gnome is small and unassuming, but if unremoved on turn 1, its basically going to deal 4 damage to your face for 1 mana. Its a nice buff for an odd hunter in wild, along side Undertaker, perhaps one of the best 1 drop in its time (and I'm not so sure its less powerful now).
Arcane Golem, now that's something that has been forgotten ever since they removed charge from it. Its hard to believe that back in the day this card used to be just about in every aggro deck, and I still believe that with this un-nerf its going to do so again, at least until team5 nerfs it back.
Undertaker wont be issue in wild at all, it s way easier to handle nowdyas then bakc then.
Leper gnome possibly coulld ad arcane golem is 100 % a mistake, Albatros is 100% msitake aswell.
How is it exciting that Monk is "hinted"? It's the only WoW class left to add to HS.
The only interesting part of that is that it was hinted in a negative, which might imply that they would rather skip Monk and add something non-WoW (i.e., unique to HS) instead.
Either way, I very sincerely hope they are a lot more careful with the next class than they were with Demon Hunter. DH is probably going to be fairly reasonable after rotation, but this first year has been pretty unpleasant.
Death knight is a class in wow(and is older then monk and dh)
I like all of them except arcane golem and albatross.
Thats 100% msitake imo. Its better then leeroy jenkins and can have 2.
2less dmg but 2mana cheaper and way eaiser to combo with any extra burst,like nitroboost is 4mana for 8dmg vs leeroys 5mana for 6.
If any is gonna get reverted again its arcane golem.
Also elysiana is not gonna be used at all anymore, only odd warrior used her
Also NO TO ALBATROSS.
Thats a msitake aswell 100% Imo, its way to much of anti evrything as 4/3 for 3 that gives 2dread draws to opnennt AND Counters RenO;
And im generly against nerfs in wild, btu fi are worried about reno decks id a 100times rather they nerf zeph/reno then bring albatross.
Also wonder what happned to: not buffing alreayd strong decks, yet are MASSIVLY buffing odd rogue(one of best dekcs atm) and any odd deck with golem and albatross.
That's why I feel Albatross should be a 3/3 at least (maybe even 3/2), so there's at least some tribute to make for the effect.
Anyways, I like it much more at 3 mana, in before they almost always play their Kazakus/Raza before I can drop and kill Albatross as a control deck.
as 3/3 id eb fine with it. Just shoudlnt be a 4/3 ontop of the effect, not as neutrall certainly
It's gonna be experimented in Odd Rogue but not so sure it's so OP. Odd rogue is a tempo deck with a lot of burst and Golem is dangerous to be played on curve obviously, and you don't want many cards to hold in hand waiting for burst time. Leeroy may be enough for that I think.
this is better then leeroy and if cobmo with extra dmg like nitrobosot ,playing it earlier is not issue
Wild is already crazy powerful so honestly, making cards like Undertaker and Golem that see little to no play in the format better might not be as bad as you think. Personally if these changes can push some of the existing strong deck types out of the picture (Secret Mage and Big Priest, in particular) then I’ll be happy! Big Priest only recently had a resurgence, but Secret Mage has been gross for a little too long there!
Honestly though, I expect some experimentation for a little bit, maybe a month later we’ll see the same strong decks still on top.
undertaker will see litte.
Arcane golem will see tons of play, its better then leeroy which is already in many decks.
Just because it wasn't played in the past as a finisher, that doesn't mean there isn't something extremely degenerate NOW that makes it a way better finisher.
And in the past it was actully played asfinisher aswell as a combo tool(mainly warlock with PO +faceless)
There is a very big difference between Arcane Golem and Leeroy Jenkins - while the former is cheaper, you don't play it as a finisher.
Therefore, giving your opponent a mana crystal is quite a big downside if you want to race him down. On the other hand, when Leeroy hits the board it's because you want to kill your opponent, so the 1/1s Whelps are not relevant.
Not saying reverted Arcane Golem is trash and won't see play, but rather that saying it's a better Leeroy is wrong.
ITs better because its cheaper and way easier to combo for more dmg and can have 2 its more consistent.
I like all of them except arcane golem and albatross.
Thats 100% msitake imo. Its better then leeroy jenkins and can have 2.
2less dmg but 2mana cheaper and way eaiser to combo with any extra burst,like nitroboost is 4mana for 8dmg vs leeroys 5mana for 6.
If any is gonna get reverted again its arcane golem.
Also elysiana is not gonna be used at all anymore, only odd warrior used her
Also NO TO ALBATROSS.
Thats a msitake aswell 100% Imo, its way to much of anti evrything as 4/3 for 3 that gives 2dread draws to opnennt AND Counters RenO;
And im generly against nerfs in wild, btu fi are worried about reno decks id a 100times rather they nerf zeph/reno then bring albatross.
Also wonder what happned to: not buffing alreayd strong decks, yet are MASSIVLY buffing odd rogue(one of best dekcs atm) and any odd deck with golem and albatross.
Or you know USE FINLEY.
Which is betetr on own AND does it pernamantly the hero power.
well i think smugglers run is still betetr de 4times cheaper, which can be seen how effective it is in wild mech pally, which will gladly(and does) run smugglers run, but wont use the 4mana version even if gives board and deck aswell.
Death adn decay is always 3dmg though adn does FACE dmg aswell
thats a turn 10 play at earliert though and they still need to be at 1hp to actully get water elemetnals.
Not sure how good will be, but will be incredbly annoying to clear though
I think its good they dont repeat highlaner again, they can give it bit o a break.
And plus ti gives some love to a different restriciton(like the princes from Kotft)
Hysteria was a turn 6/7 OTK that had twice of deck.
Caverns cant even comapre to that At all. Its way slower,weaker and inconsistent.
ANd EXTREME vurnablity to aggro
Sonya is not 5/5 for tokens,prpe reduces by 2 not 3 and giggling is 6 not 5.
and evrythign else,espcially aggro is way stronger then before.
I wouldnt be worried
Undertaker wont be issue in wild at all, it s way easier to handle nowdyas then bakc then.
Leper gnome possibly coulld ad arcane golem is 100 % a mistake, Albatros is 100% msitake aswell.
Death knight is a class in wow(and is older then monk and dh)
as 3/3 id eb fine with it. Just shoudlnt be a 4/3 ontop of the effect, not as neutrall certainly
this is better then leeroy and if cobmo with extra dmg like nitrobosot ,playing it earlier is not issue
undertaker will see litte.
Arcane golem will see tons of play, its better then leeroy which is already in many decks.
And in the past it was actully played asfinisher aswell as a combo tool(mainly warlock with PO +faceless)
ITs better because its cheaper and way easier to combo for more dmg and can have 2 its more consistent.
I like all of them except arcane golem and albatross.
Thats 100% msitake imo.
Its better then leeroy jenkins and can have 2.
2less dmg but 2mana cheaper and way eaiser to combo with any extra burst,like nitroboost is 4mana for 8dmg vs leeroys 5mana for 6.
If any is gonna get reverted again its arcane golem.
Also elysiana is not gonna be used at all anymore, only odd warrior used her
Also NO TO ALBATROSS.
Thats a msitake aswell 100% Imo, its way to much of anti evrything as 4/3 for 3 that gives 2dread draws to opnennt AND Counters RenO;
And im generly against nerfs in wild, btu fi are worried about reno decks id a 100times rather they nerf zeph/reno then bring albatross.
Also wonder what happned to: not buffing alreayd strong decks, yet are MASSIVLY buffing odd rogue(one of best dekcs atm) and any odd deck with golem and albatross.
Arcane golem is a posisblity and OFC leeroy aswell (to 4 which coudl eb considered nerf as mainly odd decks play him nowadays)
Maybe theyre gonna do once Diablo 4 will come out/has come out
Aslong zeprhys is a card i dont think it will ever be unnnerfed.
Even more with Dh being a class so ar e2 demon using classes where zeph would be 2mana 3/2 destory a minion restore 5hp to your hero
well they say dint really want to buff alreayd good decks, and reno and cube are pretty alright so that would lower chance of lackey/darkpact unnerf.
And bloodbloom obviously isnt gonna happen.
And aslo just could be that theyre planning to bring back some stuff to core set next year and thats why wanna keep it nerfed (for now).
Also casue doesnt happen now ,doesnt rule out that wont be revrted in future.