We've got a big stream event today with Blizzard showcasing Hearthstone Mercenaries! Stay up to date with the latest as we cover the event live right here.
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Event Coverage
- Mercenaries releases on October 12.
- There will be special packs to purchase for the mode.
- There is a separate collection manager to manage everything in mercenaries.
- Blizzard tricked us - stream is starting 15 minutes after the scheduled start time =/
- Mercenaries Village is your home base for your clan of Mercenaries.
- Mercenaries drops you into Azeroth as a leader of your Mercenary enterprise.
- Hunt bounties to reap rewards.
- Battles level up your mercenaries and let you find new items.
- Mercenaries has Attack and Health stats like normal but they also have ablities.
- Speed -
- Cooldown -
- You plan out your turn and then the battle begins.
- There are three types of mercenary minions which have different colored borders:
- Red - Protector Minions
- Deal double damage to Fighters.
- Green - Fighter Minions
- Deal double damage to Casters.
- Blue - Caster Minions
- Keep your team in the fight and unleash spell combos.
- Deal double damage to Protectors.
- Red - Protector Minions
- Visitors appear around your campfire presenting you with quests to complete.
- There are three unique pieces of equipment each mercenary can equip - only one can be equipped at a time.
- Hearthstone is welcoming a cross-ip character into the game via Mercenaries - DIABLO!
- Abilities and equipment can be upgraded.
- Level 5 and Level 15 provide upgrades for your mercenary abilities.
- Mercenary coins is a new currency in the mode.
- Only 3 mercenaries can be in play at once. Your "deck" (party) contains 6 mercenaries though so when one falls, another one can jump in.
- Your minion types, like Murlocs and Demons matter due to synergies.
- Victories will grant all mercenaries in your party experience.
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Quote From Blizzard The Village is your central hub for all things Mercenaries! In the Village, you can manage your collection, collect task rewards, head directly to the Mercenaries shop, set off on Bounties, and so much more! The Village is also itself a gameplay and progression system because you can build and upgrade buildings in your Village to unlock more content and make them more effective. You can learn more about the Village in our Village and Collection blog post, here.
Picking Fights
What is being a Mercenary if not collecting Bounties? From the Village, you can use the Travel Point to go to the Bounty Board. The Bounty Board is where you can choose which Bounty you want to go after—which can be thought of as choosing what “mission” or “level” to tackle. Seeking Bounties is a major part of the Mercenaries experience, and is critical for leveling up your Mercenaries, even if you plan to focus on PVP play.
Each Bounty has a suggested level, and a designated Bounty Boss at the end, so you have an idea of what you’re getting into. There are several Bounties to go after, and each one includes procedurally-generated encounters leading up to the Bounty Boss, to keep play interesting. As you play longer, additional difficulty levels can be unlocked, too, for even greater challenges!
Selecting a Bounty will bring up the Party selection menu. In Mercenaries, you control a Party of up to 6 Mercenaries, instead of a deck of cards. In combat, you will pick 3 of your 6 Mercenaries to fight at a time, with reinforcements coming off your Bench if one of your Mercenaries falls or uses a special Ability to swap out.
All experience you earn during your run sticks with you—even if that Mercenary rides the Bench or if they don’t make it out of the Bounty alive. After you claim a Bounty, you can move on to the next one, or keep coming back to ones you’ve already beaten to collect more loot and level up your team. Each Bounty has a different type of loot it can drop, so keep coming back to the same Bounty if you’re looking to focus on a specific reward!
After you’ve claimed a few Bounties, your Party might be ready to head to the Fighting Pit! In the Fighting Pit, you always be paired against a similarly-powerful opponent, even when trying out a new Mercenary. Compete in the Fighting Pit to complete achievements, earn rewards, and even push for a spot on the leaderboard!
Get This Party Started!
Try out Mercenaries when it launches on October 12 and get eight Mercenaries (pictured below) just for completing the prologue and introductory missions! That’s enough to put together a Party and immediately start chasing Bounties. Keep playing to continue growing your collection!
RokaraTyrande WhisperwindBlademaster SamuroXyrellaMillhouse ManastormCariel RoameCornelius RoameGrommash HellscreamThe More the Merrier
Start up a new Bounty after the introductory missions and you will also receive the adorable new Sarge mount for World of Warcraft! Learn more.
WoW and Hearthstone fans have even more to celebrate! Purchase a 6-month WoW Subscription between now and October 19, or have a current subscription set to renew at a later date, and you will receive the Tavern Pass and Battlegrounds Perks for this and the next expansion, 15 packs from United in Stormwind, 15 packs from Hearthstone’s next expansion, and 30 total Mercenaries Packs across your subscription period! Additional details and restrictions apply.
Diablo Comes to Mercenaries!
Last, but certainly not least, the Lord of Terror is coming to help celebrate the launch of Mercenaries! Diablo is available as part of one of three pre-purchase bundles, each including an iconic Blizzard character!
The Diablo Mercenaries Pre-Purchase Bundle includes a Diamond Legendary Diablo Mercenary Card and 50 Mercenaries Packs; the Lich King Mercenaries Pre-Purchase Bundle includes a Diamond Legendary Lich King Mercenary Card and 50 Mercenaries Packs; and the Sylvanas Mercenaries Bundle includes a Golden Legendary Sylvanas Mercenary Card and 30 Mercenaries Packs.
SylvanasThe Lich KingDiabloThe Diablo, Lich King, and Sylvanas are all also obtainable in-game, without purchasing these bundles, from Mercenaries Packs or the crafting system. To learn more details about Mercenaries, make sure to check out our Gameplay and Collection blogs. We’ll see you in the Village!
Quote From Blizzard So, you’ve selected a Bounty and are preparing to head out, but you’re not quite sure how you plan to get your target? It starts with a good team and strong fundamentals, then the rest is up to you and your Mercenaries! If you’re not ready yet, you can check out our Overview blog first. Come back here when you’re ready to start your first Bounty.
Mercenary Roles
Immediately after selecting a Bounty, you will be taken to a Party select screen similar to selecting a deck in Play Mode. From there, you can select a Party you’ve already created, or you can make a new one. Picking which 6 Mercenaries to put in your Party is one of the most important parts of taking on any Bounty.
The first thing you will notice when selecting Mercenaries for your Party is that they are separated into three Roles:
- Fighters have green frames. They tend to use aggressive Abilities to deal major damage to your enemies.
- Casters have blue frames. Casters tend to cast spells for powerful effects—sometimes supporting your Party, sometimes blowing the other Party up—but they tend to have less Attack, which can make them softer targets for your enemies.
- Protectors have red frames. They tend to be your tanks and supports. They often have a lot of Health and tend to utilize effects like Taunt and buffs to control the flow of battle. Some of them are pretty good at hand-to-hand combat, but do not have many ranged options and tend to be a bit slower than the other Roles.
You can build a team with any combination of Mercenaries, but neglecting one Role or another might expose your Party’s weaknesses. While on offense, Fighters deal double damage to Casters, Casters deal double damage to Protectors, and Protectors deal double damage to Fighters. You’ll want to keep these weaknesses in mind when building your Party.
As you play through the prologue and introductory missions, you’ll gather 8 Mercenaries to start with—enough for a Party with two Mercenaries of each Role and a couple alternates. That balanced spread is a good place to start as you learn how to build your own Parties.
Abilities & Equipment
When you select a Mercenary in the Tavern, you will notice that each Mercenary has slots for Abilities and Equipment. These are another way to find synergies between your Mercenaries! At level 1, each Mercenary only has one Ability, but you unlock a second at level 5 and a third at level 15. As you continue to progress, you can upgrade those basic Abilities to more powerful versions with Mercenary Coins!
* Mercenaries is still in development and all stats and effects are subject to change. The Card Library will be updated when Mercenaries launches on October 12 to represent any updated versions.
Mercenaries start without any Equipment. As you play, you will unlock Equipment for your Mercenaries by completing Achievements and Task Board tasks—up to three pieces of Equipment each. Like Abilities, Equipment can be upgraded with Mercenary Coins. Unlike Abilities, you can select only one piece of Equipment per Mercenary at a time.
Chasing Your Bounty
Once you’ve selected your Party, you’re off to the hunt! Each Bounty includes a procedurally-generated series of encounters before culminating in the Bounty Boss. Those encounters include fights, the Spirit Healer, and random point of interest nodes that can either help or hurt your Party through universal Boons, additional characters, or a rule change for that Bounty.
Fights make up most encounters on any given Bounty. After each fight, you will gain experience for all Mercenaries in your Party, regardless of whether they participated in the fight, sat on the Bench, or even died. You will also gain one Treasure per fight for one of your surviving Mercenaries. Treasures can come in the form of stats boosts, passive effects, or exciting and powerful new Abilities! While most progression in Mercenaries is permanent across the mode, Treasures only last for that Bounty, similar to picking up a Treasure during a Dungeon Run.
Some fights—marked with a dragon frame around that node—are extra tough. In these “Elite” encounters, you will go up against an extra enemy, and will likely lose a Mercenary or two. But, if your Party survives, you’ll get more experience and even better Treasures than normal!
After each fight, all surviving Mercenaries will have their health restored, but any Mercenaries that did not make it out of the fight can’t be used for the rest of the run. Unless you get to a Spirit Healer, that is. The Spirit Healer node randomly revives one of your fallen Mercenaries. If your team is weak after the long road or a tough encounter, you might want to choose a path in the Spirit Healer’s direction. Conversely, if you see a Spirit Healer ahead, you might feel a bit more confident about taking on that Elite encounter. You can see the map at the start of a run, so you can use that information while planning out which path to take to the Bounty Boss!
Combat Planning
You’ve taken up a Bounty, selected your Party, and chosen your path. The time for planning is over; it’s time for action! There are three main components to Mercenaries combat: placing your Mercenaries, choosing your Abilities for the turn (the “Command Phase”), and watching the Abilities play out automatically (the “Combat Phase”). Let’s take a look at each.
Place Your Mercenaries
At the start of a fight, you will get to select three starting Mercenaries from your Party. Those three Mercenaries are placed on the board to fight while your remaining Mercenaries wait on the Bench. You can place your starting Mercenaries in whatever order you want, and rearrange them as you see fit, but once you’ve locked them in, they are stuck there—placement is not part of every turn’s turn progression. Though, if one of your Mercenaries falls in combat, you select an available replacement off your Bench at the start of the next turn, and can put that replacement wherever you want on your side of the board. Be careful! There are some Abilities in Mercenaries where positioning matters.
For the most part, Mercenaries on the Bench are unaffected by combat unless they have to tag-in for one of your Mercenaries who falls. However, as you progress in Mercenaries, you will find that there are also some effects that allow Mercenaries to interact with the Bench, from a tactical retreat Ability to Abilities that buff your Bench. Remember, Mercenaries gain the same experience even when just watching from the Bench, so don’t be afraid to let a Mercenary sit a fight out if they aren’t best suited for it.
Choose Your Abilities in the Command Phase
Once your Mercenaries are set, the fight can begin! In Mercenaries, each turn has two phases, and each phase happens for both sides, simultaneously.
The first phase is the Command Phase, when all commands are entered. For each of your Mercenaries, select an Ability to use and any appropriate targets. In PVE, you can also check on enemies to see some information about what Abilities they have queued up for the turn, and you can use that information to more effectively plan your turn.
You will notice that each of your Abilities has a number under it. That number is the Ability’s Speed, which determines action order on each turn. Taking note of your Abilities’ Speeds is crucial for making the most of your Abilities. Some Abilities also have a cooldown number, which indicates how many turns you must wait before each use of that move. Those moves tend to be powerful tools that are worth the wait. With the Speed order in mind, you organize your commands to make a life-saving heal before an enemy attack, set up a combo, or focus all attacks on a slower enemy to kill it before it gets to act!
If you change your mind before all commands are locked in, you can select one of your Mercenaries to start over from there. Once you’re all set, hit the “Ready” button and your commands for the turn are locked in.
Watch it Unfold in the Combat Phase
After all commands have been input, the actions play out automatically, in order from lowest Speed number to highest Speed number. If multiple actions have the same Speed, one side will be randomly chosen to take their actions first. If a character goes down before their action, that action is skipped. If a target of an action goes down before that action, then the action will randomly re-target.
Some Abilities include physically attacking an enemy. As you might guess, these types of Abilities are more common in Fighters and Protectors than in Casters. When a character attacks an enemy, they deal damage to each other equal to their Attack stats, just like in traditional Hearthstone. However, the damage that the defender deals back to the attacker does not get double damage based on the Mercenaries’ Roles. Spells and ranged attacks avoid taking any damage from the defender at all! You need to be mindful of not just enemy attacks, but also your own Abilities, when trying to figure out how to best preserve your Mercenaries.
Synergies & Strategies
There are a lot of synergies and strategies to Mercenaries. We already talked about the most basic of these: Roles. Your Party makeup can be adjusted to try to cover your bases or prey upon certain Roles. There are also some Role synergies that lie below the surface, like combining a powerful Protector’s Taunt Ability with a Caster’s powerful heals, or reducing an enemy’s Attack stat before your Mercenaries attack into it. As you play, you will learn more of these synergies.
Some Mercenaries also specialize in a particular Spell School, sometimes using effects that get stronger as you dig deeper into that Spell School. Those Mercenaries might give themselves bonuses based on their own continued use of a particular Spell School. Or, they might best in a team of like-minded Spell School enthusiasts, with keywords like Arcane Combo, which means that an additional effect happens if one of your other Mercenaries cast an Arcane spell earlier that turn.
Finally, you’ll notice that each Mercenary has a minion type, including a bunch of minion types that don’t exist in the other game modes! Some Abilities are more powerful when used on, or in the presence of, another Mercenary of a particular minion type. Type synergies are yet another thing you can consider while building your Mercenaries Parties!
Tons of PVE Content, Rewards, and Challenges
The prize for a completed Bounty is a chest full of Mercenary Coins! Mercenary Coins are used to obtain a particular Mercenary, or to power up that Mercenary’s Abilities and Equipment if you already own it. You can learn more about crafting, Abilities, and Equipment in the Collection/Village blog post.
Quote From Blizzard When you enter the new Mercenaries mode, you will be taken to the Village. The Village is the central hub to all things Mercenaries, the place where you can manage your Mercenaries, prepare for Bounties, check the Task Board, and so much more. Here you can learn more about the Village, how to upgrade your Mercenaries, and what Mercenaries will be available at launch!
A Tour of the Village
First, let’s take a look at the sights in the Village.
Workshop
The Workshop will be your first stop in the Village. Actually, when you first enter the Village, it will be the only stop! At the Workshop, you can build out and upgrade all the other locations in the Village. Upgrading locations gives them a new look and improves their functionality. Some upgrades unlock additional features, whereas others allow for more efficiency. All Village upgrades are persistent, so you’ll be able to watch your Village grow and flourish as you play.
Tavern
The Tavern is where your Mercenaries rest and relax when they’re not out chasing a Bounty. Think of it like your Mercenaries Collection Manager. From the Tavern, you can craft Mercenaries, browse your collection of Mercenaries, select from any cosmetic options for them, upgrade their Abilities and Equipment, or throw them together to form a Party!
Travel Point
The Travel Point is your access to Bounties across Azeroth for Mercenaries PVE gameplay. From here, you can pick a Zone and then a Bounty to hunt within that Zone. The Bounties unlock sequentially within a Zone and each has a suggested level and predetermined Bounty Boss, so you have some idea what you’re getting yourself into. After you upgrade your Travel Point, you will also be able to unlock the Heroic difficulty, which will make Bounties much more challenging! We also have plans to continue adding to the Travel Point in future updates for even more challenges.
You can learn more about collecting Bounties in the Gameplay blog.
Fighting Pit
Once you’ve collected a few Bounties, you can head to the Fighting Pit for a different kind of combat! In the Fighting Pit, you are always paired against a similarly-powerful team of Mercenaries, even when trying out one of your new, under-leveled Mercenaries. Gameplay is also a little different in the Fighting Pit than it is while hunting Bounties because you can’t see what moves your opponent is locking in. Compete in the Fighting Pits to complete achievements, get rewards, and even push for a spot on the leaderboard!
Merchant Cart
The Merchant Cart is your shortcut to the Mercenaries-specific part of the in-game shop. From there, you can get Mercenaries Packs, Mercenaries Coins, and any seasonal or personal offers that might be available to you. Mercenaries Packs are a great way to grow your collection! Each Mercenaries Pack offers five Mercenaries items, which can include new Mercenary Cards, Mercenary Coins, or Mercenary Portraits.
Mailbox
The Mailbox is where you will receive in-game announcements about Hearthstone’s Mercenaries mode. Check in regularly to see what kinds of special events and offers you can take advantage of!
Campfire
And last, but certainly not least, the Campfire. The Campfire is where your Mercenaries can sit, relax, and trade stories about glorious Bounties you’ve claimed with them. Functionally, the Campfire houses the Task Board. The Task Board is similar to your Quest Log or Achievements tab in the Journal. Once a day, Mercenaries will come sit by the Campfire and put up a new task for you to complete. Once you have completed the task, return to the Campfire to claim your reward. Those rewards can include Mercenary Coins, Mercenaries Packs, or Equipment for a particular Mercenary. Even after you’ve completed your dailies, there will be ways to get more tasks in your Village, so check back often to make sure you don’t miss anything!
Managing Your Collection
Now that you’ve taken a tour of the Village, let’s head back to the Tavern for a more in-depth look at the Mercenaries collection system.
When you first enter the Tavern, you’ll notice that your Mercenaries are organized into three sections, called Roles, each with a corresponding color. Red Mercenaries are called Protectors; green Mercenaries are called Fighters; and blue Mercenaries are called Casters. Each tends to have different strengths and weaknesses and play a different role in your Parties.
You’ll also notice your existing Mercenaries Parties and a button to create a new Party on the right side—similar to your decks and deck slots in the Collection Manager. If you create a new Party, or select an existing Party, you can edit it by dragging Mercenaries to or from the collection, just like building a deck.
You can learn more about what each of the Roles entail, and strategies for building a good Party, in the Gameplay Blog.
Selecting a particular Mercenary will also give you lots of information and options for that Mercenary, like their stats, Abilities, Equipment, and Portraits (alternate cosmetic art options) you’ve obtained.
* Mercenaries is still in development and all stats and effects are subject to change. The Card Library will be updated when Mercenaries launches on October 12 to represent any updated versions.
Abilities unlock automatically as you level up the Mercenary; Equipment is unlocked by completing Achievements and tasks related to that Mercenary; and Mercenary Portraits can be obtained from Mercenaries Packs. A Mercenary has access to all their earned Abilities each fight, but has to choose one piece of Equipment to wear. You can set your Mercenary’s Portrait and Equipment from this screen.
Finally, from here you can spend Mercenary Coins to upgrade any Abilities or Equipment you have. Within the Tavern, you can also use Mercenary Coins to craft Mercenaries you don’t already own.
Growing Your Roster
Mercenaries will launch with over 50 Mercenaries! To start out with, all players will receive 8 Mercenaries just for completing the Mercenaries prologue missions. In completing your early adventures, you will also amass some Mercenary Coins and some Mercenaries Packs. These are the two main in-game methods for receiving new mercenaries.
Mercenary Coins are earned throughout the Mercenaries mode, including from completing tasks and Bounties. Each Mercenary Coin is specific to that particular Mercenary and can then be redeemed in the Tavern to craft that Mercenary if you don’t own it, or upgrade their Abilities or Equipment if you do. Mercenaries Packs can also be earned or purchased, and include 5 Mercenaries items, which can include new Mercenary Cards, Mercenary Coins, or Mercenary Portraits. Each Mercenaries Pack includes at least one new Mercenary Card until you own all Mercenaries of that rarity tier. You can learn more about the details of Mercenaries Packs here.
From time to time, there will also be various offers in the in-game store. These can include standalone Mercenary purchases, deals on packs, options for Coins, and bundles combining a few Mercenaries items. There are also three exciting pre-purchase options that are available from now until Mercenaries launches!**
Diablo, The Lich King, and Sylvanas each have their own special pre-purchase bundles if you want to kickstart your Mercenaries collection. These bundles will give you a huge swath of Mercenaries to play with right out the gate! Don’t worry if you can’t get all three, Diablo, Sylvanas, and the Lich King are here to stay and will be obtainable in-game through packs and crafting after launch.
** Mercenaries pre-purchased items will not appear in-game until the mode launches on October 12. You will know that your pre-purchase has been confirmed by checking that the bundle has been marked as owned in the in-game shop.
Make sure to mark your calendars for when Mercenaries launches on October 12! In the meantime, check out our Overview and Gameplay blogs for more details on Mercenaries. We’ll see you in the Village!
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I wont make any judgement of the price or gameplay until I test it to have an opinion. The only thing I can say for now is that the demonstration made me want to play the new mode so i will for sure play it a couple hours at least.
When I heard a new game mode that would be related to a Roguelike RPG I expected something better structured and fun not a Battlegrounds 2.0 with fewer functions.
I'm still holding out hope that the Mercenaries PvE mode will provide a fun single-player experience, much like Lab of Legends on LoR. But I am concerned that only the whales would be able to max out even one character, while the rest of us will have to grind away for coins with diminishing returns and make do with suboptimal builds forever.
3 super expensive pre-purchase bundles for a game mode that isn’t even out yet? ROFL
Also, right after a huge scandal? What a joke, this company truly is finished.
I just gonna ignore all and try to make a physical version of this game. I tried with Hearthstone and it ended very well, and this seems very physical-friendly so am gonna try.
Edit 3/9/21: I have a playable demo! I made Rokara, Xyrella, Milhouse and Cariel!
Geez, the flood of negativity for this new game mode is astounding. I'm starting to consider pre-purchasing just to make a statement against the cynicism.
Yes, Blizzard wants money for this game they've invested significant time into. Yes, it's pretty much just a gacha game. Guess what? There's nothing inherently wrong with that. If you don't like gacha games, just don't play it; it's not going to significantly hurt your enjoyment of other Hearthstone games. But don't whine about it and don't villainize the "whales" who will want to pay for this experience. (I think paying for this is a lot more gratifying than paying for pure cosmetics. And it's not "pay to win" if the matchmaking system works well, either; it's "pay to play against other people who pay.")
Those who are saying Blizzard should have made an entirely new franchise for a gacha game, well ... I for one am more likely to enjoy the game because it's WarCraft characters.
What the heck kind of argument is this?
Customers get to have opinions, they get to push for lower prices. If you're going to with the "Blizzard is a company, they need to make money" argument, then don't be upset if people go "I'm a customer, I want good value for my money", and especially don't be upset if they push for the company to offer something affordable.
What on earth do you have to gain from being angry at people who push for lower prices and express their anger at a company that's been doing a _lot_ wrong recently?
If you feel bad because you want to spend money anyway, that sounds like a you problem to me.
There's a difference between haggling and whining.
"Affordable" is a term that's so relative that it's meaningless.
People aren't mostly expressing that they think the product is low value. Even if they were, it's too soon to judge pretty much anything but the art quality yet, and my impression is that people are impressed with the art quality. No, it's almost as if they're complaining that it is good quality. Because then they "have to" spend money on it or something.
Anger you mention. Anger is not an appropriate response to the Mercenaries quality or prices. At worst, it should be a "roll eyes, I won't spend my money on that" and express that matter-of-factly in a forum. But no, as you admit, people are ranting and raving and getting offended.
Anger might be appropriate for other things you imply Blizzard is doing (although that's been going on since 2004, not "lately"). And I don't fault anyone who boycotts Blizzard for its sexism issues. (I'm not, partly because I don't think the Hearthstone team was more than tangentially involved.) But even if that's why people are angry, they're expressing it very poorly. It's almost like they're saying "because this company has done immoral things, they should be redeeming themselves publicly by selling their products for virtually no money!" And that's ... not how things work.
Cap'n, that's still a ridiculous argument.
Yes, people are upset about the value. They're very open about that. Prices are extremely high - multiple triple A games worth. The mode looks unappealing and unrefined for that money. And f2p isn't an option without eating into your gold for Constructed.
You want people to roll their eyes instead of expressing their emotions? Do you feel that bad when others don't like something you want to spend money on? It's still a you problem.
Right? If you're paying to improve your PvE experience, then who cares? If you're paying to improve your PvP experience, then you'll be matched against similar people. You won't be - or at least shouldn't be, assuming the system works - beatin' on F2P people (unless they're doing well on their own).
Exactly, I am super hyped up. It just always disapoints me how toxic the hearthstone community is.
I'm just sort of confused at this point. The possibilities for a digital card game over a physical one (as someone who got priced out of playing MtG as a teenager in the late-90s) have always excited me. But at this point it doesn't feel like Team 5 is particularly invested in developing a cutting-edge CCG.
Battlegrounds is an auto-battler, plain and simple. Cards are a great way to organize stats and information, but it's literally a different game. It doesn't follow the same rules and mechanics as a different mode like Dungeon Run, Tavern Brawl, Arena, etc. Mercenaries is literally a different game. Maybe it'll be great, but I think it's fair to complain. It's not a new game mode. It's a new game.
We joke about "small indie company" but it does feel cheap and silly that Activision-Blizzard doesn't have dedicated teams to its premier auto-battler and this new gacha Mercenaries game. Team 5's resources are not going into Hearthstone, the CCG, and it's noticeable:
1) Standard is a mess this expansion - the triangle of aggro/control/combo is deeply broken with combos at the moment.
2) Arena and Duels don't get the kind of support that incentivizes playing them. Tavern tickets still aren't a real currency. Runeterra, for example, gives you a free tavern ticket each week if you complete even a single daily quest. The mini-sets require you to save up too much gold to justify paying the admissions. My Arena play has dropped off dramatically since the mini-sets became a permanent fixture in the game, and the rewards track simply hasn't compensated for them.
3) I'm not sure how much Classic is getting played, but I found it pretty boring after a couple days despite having a complete Classic collection.
4) Wild. Players have been asking for NEW WAYS to use THEIR EXISTING COLLECTION for years and years and years now. I'm not going to even complain about Wild being unbalanced, because of course it is with every single card ever printed available. But they could a) frequently rotate the card pool like Arena; b) have rotating rules-changes longer than a week like Tavern Brawl; c) have a tournament mode with deck bans (like Gauntlets in Runeterra); d) have a dedicated rotating Core Wild set like they have a Core Standard set; e) a combination of all of these ideas. I'm not trying to be flippant about their work, but all of these ideas are relatively easy to implement.
More recently, I have been really bothered by the price of Hearthstone. Paying $50 or $80 to access the full gameplay experience of a single expansion is ludicrous. Basically, I love the MtG-style of gameplay, but there is no reason for games to simulate pack-openings or restrict gameplay based on artificial card scarcity like they do with physical cards (which is still artificial scarcity as well). I have paid for every pre-order for years, and played nearly every day, but I NEVER get every card in an expansion. It literally isn't possible without spending additional money, beyond the pre-orders, on packs. Well, I finally didn't pay the pre-order for United in Stormwind, and it's been an even worse experience - truly pay-to-have-fun.
I was hoping Mercenaries was going to be like Slay The Spire or Dungeon Run on steroids or something that related back to the core cards and gameplay. But nope. It's just a gacha game with its own currency and its own packs. Again, it might be fun, but it's not what I want out of the game that I do play. I stopped playing Hearthstone a week after United in Stormwind, and was hoping to return for Mercenaries. I'll check in again at the next set rotation in April.
Wow. You have a lot of issues with the game. I disagree with many of them, and the ones I do agree with aren’t as important to me as they are to you, but that’s ok. Your opinions are valid, and of course it’s fine if you like different games than me. I’m only sorry that it’s taken you so much time, money, and mental energy to realize that Hearthstone is not the game for you.
For your sake, I hope that you’re close to making that break for real. You deserve to be putting that time and money into a game (or other hobby) that you do enjoy.
It's been an active hobby and I'm an adult with a stable job so I don't exactly begrudge the $50 I spent every few months. But it's objectively a steep price to pay for what we're getting, and I genuinely think we're getting less and less each expansion. After the final balance patch during Barrens I actually thought the Standard meta was in a fantastic place. But it took literal months. And then United in Stormwind completely ruined the meta again. This has been a consistent cycle of them not play-testing or balancing OBVIOUS broken cards before releasing a set. What if, for example, instead of putting intensive resources into a new game (not a mode), they put that energy into the back-end so they could patch/alter the game on the fly much easier? Having each nerf cycle take a month simply isn't fun, especially when they don't usually get it right on the first try.
That’s fair. As long as you feel that it’s worth it for you, I won’t question that.
I will say that I still enjoy the game, including the past month. I’ve liked the new decks available to try, the team has been fast with balance adjustments, and despite what others say I find that most games last a satisfying 8-10 turns. Overall player numbers are apparently steady, so hopefully there are a lot of people out there who are having fun.
I do worry that a lot of players are just waiting for the game to become something it’s not. Maybe the game has changed, maybe the person has changed without realizing it, but I’m sure it’s never going to satisfy many of the people I see on Reddit. I just hope most of them move on and find a game they enjoy, which was the reason I answered you the way I did. But if you do think it’s likely to be fun again for you, then I’m glad. Good luck!
Well said - the time,money and man power they spent on this new game mode - they could of completely revamped hearthstone.
Except both Mercenaries and Battlegrounds have do dedicated teams. Iksar mentioned it in one of his q&as earlier this year.
I'm sorry, but what? You do have in mind that they release 3 expansion each year with 3 additional mini-expansion in between? Each of them with unique themes and mechanics may I add. Not to mention the frequent balance patches which primarely hit standard constructed.
Elemental shaman, handbuff paladin, Quest rogue, Aggro-Priest, Fel-demonhunter and more are a few examples of non-combo meta decks. Besides, when was the meta ever not "broken"?
And that's on purpose. Ben talked about it in one of the Blizzconline interviews how Tavern Brawl, Arena and Duels are supposed to be secondary gamemodes that you play every now and then. Standard, Battlegrounds and now Mercenaries on the other hand are supposed to be main ones.
Similar thing to the Point above. You just play the mode if you want something consistent on which you can always rely on no matter how everything else in the game goes.
1. Duels
2. The devs made it very clear that the main purpose of wild is to have a place where you can play your decks once they rotated out. It is not in their intention to make it a standard 2.0
I only bought the big pre-order, played semi-regularely and have easily managed to get every card of the set since Darkmoon. Seems like a you-problem to me.
I mean, do what you want, but maybe you should atleast play the tutorial and one run before saying that the mode is not for you.
To clarify, I've bought ever $50 pre-order for years, and have never achieved a full set. I do imagine you'd get there with the $80 bundle. I haven't paid that much for a single video game since Super Mario 3.
Not to be "that person", but we've known from the outset that Mercenaries was always intended to be its own game inside of the umbrella that has become Hearthstone. It would not use your Collection; it would be its own thing, just like Battlegrounds is. I know it's not what some people wanted, but it was directly advertised as a new experience :/ I hope you'll at least give it a shot: many people thought BG would be terrible, with a "oh what is this garbage" kind of sentiment, but it turned out to be fun and very popular.
Ultimately I think the driving idea behind "Hearthstone is a platform" is that Hearthstone can be what you want to get out of it. You can play Constructed, be a Duels-main, play Battlegrounds or Mercenaries, or all of the above if you are so inclined. Mercenaries might bring in new players to try it out, only for them to be pulled into the whirlpool that is Hearthstone "proper". I don't have any data, but I imagine at least some percentage of BG-first players went on to try Hearthstone itself and came to enjoy it. That's a win for us all, and it can be again with Mercenaries.
You're generally right about how it was advertised. I think what really set me off is the new currency and pack-system. It's one thing to "not use your existing collection" and another thing to have you start building an entirely new one. I'm not against them developing new games, but I am extremely skeptical of "Hearthstone as a platform." It especially feels like Team 5 resources are not going into the CCG because of these new games (not game modes).