Expensive Tastes - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread

Demonxz95: DH can attack quite a lot of times in a game, and even at 7 or 8 mana, this would be good. I'd make it more expensive.

Wailor: 8 mana 7/8 isn't that crazy, and the chances of seeing it again after trading a second time are slim. The second version wouldn't see much play, you don't trade that many cards in a game.

linkblade91: Considering you won with Mecha'Zoth iirc, I obviously don't want you to submit that, lol! The idea is good, same with Elise. I don't like Xavius, he's basically an engine that gives 3/3s for free, but the 7 cost restriction may be enough.

BloodMefist: Interesting idea, but like with Link's Xavius, it's a free engine. It's not as bad, since 1/3s aren't that threatening, but they're more annoying, since they have Taunt.

R: Cool idea, but you can't use the art, since it's already used by a (admittedly, uncollectible), card. You should probably make it a giant, and use the giant wording as well.

Neoguli: Interesting ideas. I think I like the Lurker a tad more.

FieselFitz: Graazek is fine, but you need to change the art, and shouldn't hit itself. Brogon needs to cost at least 30 to be balanced, and even then, it's probably too strong.

Fedrion: I'd limit the Battlecry to basic totems, since you can fairly easily bring this to 0 mana.

The (buffed) second version is more than acceptable, but I prefer the first version myself.

Mecha'zoth is a classic, so I would not be opposed to the idea of using that if you want.

Of the other two, I do think Elise would have the better chance of getting a good score over Xavius. While I for one, support the concept of a card that you "can't" play, some people will likely find it a bit too weird (particularly under its current execution) and penalize it somewhat.

Coral Lurker has a really cool ability (although I am worried that it might be slightly too strong). Though I am hoping Tradeable makes appearances elsewhere, its watermark should be either United in Stormwind or The Deadmines for the time being.

I am not a big fan of Miranda Coastmoor. It's not supposed to be that easy to get Treasures. Marin the Fox requires you to play an understatted 8-drop and destroy a minion you give to your opponent, and [Hearthstone Card (Heistbaron Toggwaggle) Not Found] requires you to have Lackeys (and to be playing Rogue). This requires no such condition and is easily repeatable.

As pointed out, Fire Lord Graazek needs an art change since its art is already being used by Fireguard Destroyer. The effect is fine, but I don't think it's intended to hit itself so it should specify "other characters".

Brogon the Trampler is…. an interesting concept but playing it covers two extremes. Either you draw it early and can be play a 10/10 with Rush for very few or potentially even 0 mana, or you draw it late when you've already drawn most of your Beasts and the card is literally unplayable and it wastes a draw. Beyond that, there are syntax errors such as "Beast" not being capitalized and Rush being below the Cost-reduction effect instead of above it.

This is actually one of the oldest fan-made card designs to become a "trope" many many years ago, so it's a cool throwback to those old days to see it come back.

Back then, this effect was theorized to be used as Joust synergy rather than Evolve synergy as the latter had not existed yet by this effect's first iteration. I think this is a cool Shaman design and I do think we will eventually see it in the game some day, not to mention its contrast with other cards in this competition is probably going to give it some appeal in voting. I'm not sure about the specific numbers, but I think the base idea you have is worth using.

It's funny, but I do think the joke is a bit too "on the nose" for me. It'll probably get some points from some people for humor, but it'll likely also cost you some points from others for a very similar reason.

I'd say go for it if you're really confident that more people will love the humor than people that won't. Otherwise, it'll probably be a good idea to have some other card in reserve just in case.

Definitely too weak in my opinion.

As pointed out before in response to Wailor's card, cards that upgrade when Traded only need to be Traded once before they become "good". This one needs to be Traded at least 3 times before it becomes any good and that will take quite a while overall.

Yes, you will.

That is all that I think needs to be said.

R - Does a self-pain Warlock need a big Abyssal clearer? I feel like the Warlock has a lot of clears already, and the requirement is very similar to Flesh Giant. I would say there's nothing inherently wrong with the card, though; just seems unnecessary. I think I prefer Obsessed Worgen.

MenacingBagel - Isn't this just a Yogg-Saron, Hope's End with the requirement that someone loses? Not sure how well I feel about that.

Wailor - I like the latest Ancient of Wonders. I don't know if you did this on purpose, but the Ancient of Wonders in Warcraft III is a store for hero items; with that in mind, being related to Tradeable is very on-brand and lore-appropriate. Nice work :)

BasilAnguis - "Trade" should be capitalized and bolded, and "Cost" should be capitalized as well. I have a soft-spot for the Sha, having made an expansion based around them, so I like the usage.

AeroJulwin - That's a silly name :P Personally, I wonder if the cost needs to be higher: it's not hard for a Paladin to cast 6 Holy spells or more in one game, to earn themselves a Reno Jackson. Libram of Wisdom-abuse can easily bring this card further down - I'd love to say "well the Libram will be in Wild by then!", but a lot of people won't see that.

Nirast - That's just goofy lol. Not sure what to say: it exists to be exploited, which will annoy some people. Also, why is it a Kobolds & Catacombs card? It has no connection to the expansion.

Fedrion - "Totem" needs to be capitalized. Combining the main four together is cute, but it's also a pretty crap combination of stats without any Keywords. You would need to save your Totemic Surges for the board fill…but that's in Wild. Without it, I'm concerned there isn't enough good Totems to risk the gamble.

FieselFitz - Change the art of the Fire Lord and make sure it says "all other characters", and I think you're good to go. I would pass on Brogon, even in light of a potential rework.

Neoguli - Coral Lurker could be phrased as "When you Trade this, reduce the Cost of this and the card drawn by (2)." Might look better/neater. I prefer it over Miranda: I think we've seen enough of the Fantastic Treasures for now.

BloodMefist - I like the Void Baron, but as the Discussion thread has indicated, we might be in the minority regarding cards that are not meant to be played.

Demonxz95 - Where have I seen that condition before? *cough* MyCardLastWeek *cough* :P I like it, though. Doesn't need to be 11+ mana, per se, but whatever.