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Competition Theme: Name That Card!

Collectible cards is the name of the game this week!

Wailor wants to see our collections in the competition this week!

As always, I can be reached through Discord or here on the site via PM if you have any issues to report.

Competition Phases

Here are the phases of this card design competition

  • Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, Jun 22 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sat, Jun 27 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
  • Voting Phase: Starts on Sat, Jun 27 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sun, Jun 28 16:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
  • Finalist Phase: Starts on Sun, Jun 28 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Mon, Jun 29 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
  • Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.

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  • Competition Theme: Name That Card!

    Collectible cards is the name of the game this week!

    Wailor wants to see our collections in the competition this week!

    As always, I can be reached through Discord or here on the site via PM if you have any issues to report.

    Competition Phases

    Here are the phases of this card design competition

    • Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, Jun 22 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sat, Jun 27 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
    • Voting Phase: Starts on Sat, Jun 27 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sun, Jun 28 16:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
    • Finalist Phase: Starts on Sun, Jun 28 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Mon, Jun 29 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
    • Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.

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    No thread rules were added to this season. Please populate and manually edit this thread with them.

  • Feel like my last couple of entries have been too out there so decided to go simpler this time around and want more Libram support printed.

    • Quote From Cg8889

      Feel like my last couple of entries have been too out there so decided to go simpler this time around and want more Libram support printed.

      This unfortunately is not eligible.

      From the rules: "Your card cannot pick randomly from a subset of cards - it must be specific"

      Friendly Staff
      • Quote From Demonxz95
        Quote From Cg8889

        Feel like my last couple of entries have been too out there so decided to go simpler this time around and want more Libram support printed.

        This unfortunately is not eligible.

        From the rules: "Your card cannot pick randomly from a subset of cards - it must be specific"

        Then shouldn't Imprisoned Gan'arg also not be an example since it doesn't specifically state Fiery War Axe?

        Get why my example doesn't work cause Libram isn't specific enough; just wanting to figure out what can and cannot work. Thanks!

        • Quote From Cg8889
          Quote From Demonxz95
          Quote From Cg8889

          Feel like my last couple of entries have been too out there so decided to go simpler this time around and want more Libram support printed.

          This unfortunately is not eligible.

          From the rules: "Your card cannot pick randomly from a subset of cards - it must be specific"

          Then shouldn't Imprisoned Gan'arg also not be an example since it doesn't specifically state Fiery War Axe?

          Get why my example doesn't work cause Libram isn't specific enough; just wanting to figure out what can and cannot work. Thanks!

          I was inclined to side with you, but Shadows says it's fine: "3/2 Axe" is close enough of a description to get the idea across. Gan'arg does in fact produce a FWA, and not a similar token.

          Friendly
        • Quote From Cg8889
          Quote From Demonxz95
          Quote From Cg8889

          Feel like my last couple of entries have been too out there so decided to go simpler this time around and want more Libram support printed.

          This unfortunately is not eligible.

          From the rules: "Your card cannot pick randomly from a subset of cards - it must be specific"

          Then shouldn't Imprisoned Gan'arg also not be an example since it doesn't specifically state Fiery War Axe?

          Get why my example doesn't work cause Libram isn't specific enough; just wanting to figure out what can and cannot work. Thanks!

          Not quite since Imprisoned Gan'arg only generates one card, the Fiery War Axe, and it specifies "3/2 Axe" making it clear that you're generating said axe.

          Friendly Staff
    • Quote From Cg8889

      Feel like my last couple of entries have been too out there so decided to go simpler this time around and want more Libram support printed.

      That card wouldn't work for this theme, because the Libram is not specified. It would be fine if the Libram was specific and not random.

      Ninja'd.

      Friendly

  • Your card cannot pick randomly… […]

    Does that mean that discovering from a Pool limited by name (e. G. Breaths, Explorers, Librams) is fine? 

    • Quote From Elfensilver
      Quote From Competition rules
      Your card cannot pick randomly… […]

      Does that mean that discovering from a Pool limited by name (e. G. Breaths, Explorers, Librams) is fine? 

      No: we want you to produce one/a few specific cards directly. Discovering a Libram is much like discovering a random Beast, even if the pool is significantly smaller.

      Friendly
    • Quote From Elfensilver

       

      Quote From Competition rules
      Your card cannot pick randomly… […]

       

      Does that mean that discovering from a Pool limited by name (e. G. Breaths, Explorers, Librams) is fine? 

      No - we're looking for a specific card to be generated, with no variance in what the card can be.

      In regards to cards like Imprisoned Gan'arg or Bear Trap, we're fine with fudging the name a little (maybe for aesthetic purposes) so long as it's clear enough which collectible card you're referring to. If in doubt, write the name out!

  • I just have two ideas at the moment. Similar situation as last time: the Druid card is from my custom expansion, and the Paladin card is a rough draft.  Edit: Going through my old cards, I found Volcanic Guardian. It's the next step up in the chain, creating Igneous Elementals that then create Flame Elementals.

    Friendly

  • To further clarify: does it have to be a collectible card? Or would a card that adds a Flame Elemental, coin or a specific animal companion to your hand be valid? 

    • Quote From Elfensilver

      To further clarify: does it have to be a collectible card? Or would a card that adds a Flame Elemental, coin or a specific animal companion to your hand be valid? 

      Gotta be collectible

      Friendly Staff

  • Idea numero uno!

    Deadly Poison

    Friendly Staff

  • Remember my card from 2 competitions ago that didn't work in the discussion thread? Well I am going to bring that idea back to life.

    "The shady streets of Gadgetzan where the dentists have fake licenses and get pain in fake money"

    What do you think?

    *edit* I just realized that "Counterfeit Coin" should be in single quotes. But other than that what do you think?

    Friendly

    • Looks fun, and Gadgetzan-y. The one thing is that I don't know that any other neutral card generates a specific class card like this one does. That isn't necessarily a problem, but it does make it rather unusual.

  • Ah, that lovely time of week when the new contest rolls in and the creative juices get pumping again.  Finally succeeded in my mission to make it to finals and now setting my sights to winning a contest (although it's very hard and unlikely).  A bit unsure when the quotation marks need to be added, but I think they don't need it if they're summoned and do if it is another effect (not 100% on this).

    Ishanah pushes control Priest by offering a potentially huge way of stabilizing against aggressive matchups.  Against other control matchups its a bit more difficult to get value since Lightwell doesn't offer the same threat level it does to aggressive decks.  Lightwell is a card that basically never ever gets seen in games and is widely considered to be one of the weakest cards.  I wanted to push it so that people fear the Lightwell and consider it enough of a threat.  A bit worried about the costing of this Ishanah, since four Lightwells is technically 8 mana worth of minions, and she comes with a decent taunt body.

    I knew from the get-go I wanted to try to make something Hungry Crab related since there is so much humor available in that concept.  Fishy acts as a 'payoff' for having a lot of small murlocs since you can efficiently trade them in for 1 mana 3/4s.  Early designs were cheap murlocs that added Hungry Crabs to both player's hands.  It became too hard to find a good balance in minion form, so I tried to push it into a one-sided spell instead.  Thinking about lowering the cost to add in symmetrical Hungry Crab-adding again, but unsure if that's a good direction to pursue.

    Set the Table! is because I love Discard Warlock and I love Silverware Golem.  It always felt awful to have a hand full of discarding cards but no discard payoffs, so I made Set the Table! works especially well in an overabundance of discard effects since you need to discard first to set it off, and then find a way to discard the golems.  I love the Silverware Golem discard-summon animation especially and love the idea of seeing it proc a lot of times in a game. A bit worried about the swingy potential in the card, but my love for discard is too great and I think the amount of set-up required makes it alright.  

  • Here's my first idea. I'll come back and get some feedback up for others in a few hours. Have to get the little one to bed first.

    I'm thinking this might need to be 4 mana, or drop the Rush to keep it at 3 mana. 

  • Thoughts on another card that takes inspiration from GvG an mix it into Boomsday. Like what Dr. Boom does in his expansion. Thoughts?

  • @linkblade91

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    I'd say Volcanic Elemental is the best of the bunch. I also like Primal Fury.

    @Demonx95

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    Cool card, feels very Rogueish. I'd change the artwork, though.

    @KANSAS

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    I don't like that your card uses Counterfeit Coin instead of The Coin just to fit the competition criteria. Even if the concept itself is good, I'd go with a different idea.

    @BloodMeFirst

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    All of those are excellent, probably my favorites so far. I'd say Set the Table! is the best one, since it combines flavor and an interesting effect.

    That said, an Epic Class card for an expansion that had none might be a bit off-putting for some people, so I'd make it a Rare just in case.

    @Xarkkal

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    I think you're right about the balance. I'd say I prefer a 4 mana version with Rush.

    @Pokeniner

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    I like your card, but I think you should make Nezzie herself a Mech.

    Sure, you'd have to drop this cool artwork, but I think the card overall would benefit, since you wouldn't need to modify the token.

  • An idea I came up with a while ago.

    Cons:

    • You need too copies of the card to get Rag for the same cost.
    • Rag's effect won't trigger at the end of the turn.

    Pros:

    • Dust-wise, he's half the price.
    • Any sort of copy effect would allow you to have multiple Rags. (most relevant for Mages, Priests and Shamans)

    I'm not sure if I should leave it neutral or give it to one of the classes.

    Feedback:

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    linkblade91: Primal Fury: seems a tad expensive. You can probably get away with making it cost 3, since the cards it generates aren't that powerful, and you'd get a better curve

    Aldor Adjudicator: I'm not sure the libram package needs more reductions. More librams, sure, but not reductions. Maybe just make it reduce by (1).

    Volcanic Guardian: Looks good.

    Demonxz95: Looks fine. You can;t exactly play more than one or two Combo cards a turn, and it's unlikely to survive after. I'd just give it an official emblem, this looks at home in K&C or Karazan.

    KANSAS: Looks fine, balance wise. Question: why is the dentist paying you?

    BloodMefist: High Priestess Ishanah: The concept is pretty cool. If you're worried about the cost, you could make it a highlander or give it other such restricions. And you should probably still put the well in quotations.

    Something Fishy…: Don't like this one. It's either a tech card, in which case it's terrible, or you use it on your own stuff, in which case you get a board that's weaker on average than the one you just killed.

    Set the Table!: This one's interesting. No idea how good it is, but I like disco, so I like this card!

    Xarkkal: Yeah, you should probably make one of the balace changes you mentioned. I'd drop the rush. Otherwise, cool idea!

    Pokeniner: High chance the cannons kill her Sorry, didn't see the text on the cannons. In this case, i'd either follow Wailor's advice or give Nezzie (the cannons ignore her). Also, mechs weren't a big part of Warlock's identity in Boomsday. Otherwise, love the concept!

    Staff

  • I'd like to try to make a Demon Hunter card this week because there was only a small number of entries for this class over the last weeks and the Outcast mechanic works well with this week's theme. 

     

    My first idea is a blacksmith that toys with Warglaives of Azzinoth. I find it very hard to balance Outcast cards, but first of all I need to decide between adding the weapon to hand or flat out equipping it. Not entirely happy with the art yet.

    My second idea is a "DH Tony" card (still looking for a fitting character). Suggested game plan: equip Warglaives of Azzinoth, next turn drop DH Tony and attack as often as possible, next turn drop Altruis the Outcast and profit.

    Which of the two designs do you like better and why? I'm grateful for any form of feedback and will add my two cents as soon as possible. 

  • Feedback:

    Nirast:

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    The easy part first: it should stay neutral. I'm not really sold about the card without being able to put a finger on the sore spot. The text looks too long but is correct. The paragraphs are fine. Hm. I guess I need more motivation to run this. You should make it cost 3.

    Pokeniner:

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    I agree with Wailor. What about making Mecha-Jaraxxus a card? You could use the original Lord Jaraxxus stats for more flavor. That way you might give it a harder condition though… Cool design anyway!

    Xarkkal:

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    I'd drop the Rush, everything else is great. I especially like the cost & stats reflection.

    BloodMefist:

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    Ishanah is OP imo. Both of the spells look interesting. I don't have the time to look it up now, but have you checked the wording of the Shaman one (is it "field"?) and if the art of the Warlock one is already used?

    KANSAS:

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    I like the card. In your place, I'd toy around with positioning of the text a bit, trying to fit parts of the effects into one line each (1: Battlecry: Deal 2 damage; 2: to a minion; 3: and add a 'Counterfeit Coin'; 4: to your hand) if that doesn't look awkward. Also there's a typo in your flavor text (pain / paid).

    Demonxz95:

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    I like the card, but the art looks a bit off. The colors don't look strong enough.

    linkblade91:

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    I'm no fan of the Libram archetype and I just don't feel the druid card. Volcanic Guardian looks really cool. Why not make it an Ungoro card as well?

  • Is it breaking the spirit of the theme to cast one and add the other, or is it more about directly referencing the cards? Wanted to help make these cards show up more often, since they aren't often run, and I liked the symmetry of using them both on the same card. Technically this is a 5/5 with taunt on 4, but you have to have another minion in play, which admittedly isn't that hard for token druid, which is probably where this would see play. 

  • I think this is one of the most Comedic cards I've ever made! I'm not sure If I'd enter the competition with this one but I do think it would fit nicely. Might come up with a few more ideas but let me know what you guys think!

  • Went back to the drawing board and I like this idea a lot. 

    Command the Illidari

    With Outcast, it is a possible +6 attack for 6 mana so may have to change it to Coordinated Strike instead. Is it too strong as is and needs to be changed or is it in line with costing accurately since Inner Demon is a +8 for 8 mana without any other requirements? Feedback appreciated. Will get back on later to provide my insight for others. 

  • Here is my card after feedback:

    @Nirast, the dentist is paying you because even if it would technically make more sense story-wise, it is not going to say "Battlecry: Do dental work on a minion and have it pay me a coin". Sometimes a card can make sense flavor-wise without spelling out exactly how it would work in real life.

    @anchorm4n, does this formatting look better?

    Feedback!

    @Linkblade91

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    Volcanic Guardian is too slow, I kind of like Aldor Adjudicator but getting two extra Libram of Hopes is kind of a lot. I really like Primal Fury but you could probably make it 3 mana or maybe even 2 mana and be okay. "Feral" cards are really bad, so you would probably be fine making them more accessible.

    @Demonxz95

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    I am not 100% sure about the power-level on this card because I don't know how easy it would be to trigger multiple combo effects in a turn. But getting multiple Deadly Poisons feels like a lot of extra damage. Again I am not sure if it would be problematic  because I don't play rogue, but just something to keep in mind.

    @BloodMefist

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    Ishanah is interesting as a control tool, and I like that she makes use of bad cards. I also like that she doesn't support Rez Priest. But don't forget to put a period after the Taunt. Something Fishy is interesting, but I feels really hit-or-miss. If you are fighting a Murloc deck it just wins you the game, if you are playing a Murloc deck I guess it can be used to slightly upgrade your board, and otherwise it does literally nothing. Set the Table! is really cool, but probably too powerful.

    @Xarkkal

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    I really like it, but it is probably too OP as it is now. You should definitely either remove the Rush or make it 4 mana. Personally I would rather remove the rush, but making it 4 mana is fine.

    @Pokeniner

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    First off, I would reduce her mana cost to 6 or maybe 7. It isn't worth spending 4 mana on a Fel Cannon, so I don't see why it would be worth it to spend 8 mana on two. Also, to avoid adding that extra line to the Fel Cannons you could just change the character to a mech. But aside from that I really like it.

    @Nirast

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    No offense, but the card as it is seems pretty pointless. Why would I spend 8 mana and two cards summoning Ragnaros and not trigger his ability when I could spend 8 mana and a single card to summon Ragnaros and also trigger his ability. I would both reduce its mana and make it a battlecry. If you wanted to make it a little more interesting, you could do something like Mogu Cultist and make them 1 mana but make it so that you need to control 3/4 of them.

    @anchorm4n

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    I want to like it, but I am biased against Warglaives of Azzinoth so I don't like it. But I can put aside my opinion for a bit and provide constructive feedback. I like Illidari Blacksmith better than Tony because it is simpler. It does a single effect, and then it is done. I like the first version better because I feel like it doesn't have as much potential to swing the game in an un-fun way. It gives the opponent more warning, and it is also slower. I would however change the Battlecry to only hit a minion so that it helps aggro decks a bit less and also maybe reduce it's stats.

    @grayghost39

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    I like the idea of a choose one effect, I also like first option a lot, but the second option is really bad. Gift of the Wild is a bad card, and going through an extra step to cast it isn't going to help. I feel like as it is now people are never ever going to pick the second one. I would find some other druid spell instead of Gift of the Wild. I would also have it cast both options just for simplicity.

    @CovenantKevlar

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    It is funny, but I am not sure it is very realistic. I think you could do something else cheese themed that makes EVIL Cable Rats, but just making a block of cheese be a minion is a little odd. Also, I would reduce the Health to make it similar to other eggs.

    @Cg8889

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    First off the wording is wrong, it should say "Whenever a friendly minion dies this turn, give your Hero +1 attack. Outcast: Add 'Command the Illidari' to your hand". You always say the thing that triggers the effect before the effect. I do also think that Coordinated Strike would be better just to make it a bit smaller and cheaper to cast. Other than that it looks great!

    @MrRhapsody

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    Beast Training Manual is pretty cool, though I am not sure about the balancing. Surprise Element is funny, but not too realistic (btw it should probably be named "The Element of Surprise") and it also needs a period after the Taunt. Weather Forecast is tied with Beast Training Manual for my favorite, but I do think it would be kind of under-powered seeing as Shaman doesn't have a lot of draw and it is very possible to draw these at the wrong time, and if you draw them at just the right time it could make a lot of players salty. All in all I think Beast Training Manual is the best, but I just don't feel too god about being able to play with 4 Kill Commands

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  • Had lots of ideas for that one, but i'll to limite myself to post only three. Those are the ones i thought were more interesting. Thoughts?

    As always, feedback later.

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      Thoughts?

      I really like this one...if Blizzard was replaced with something else. It's weird for a Shaman spell to shuffle a Mage spell into one's deck. How about Rain of Toads?

      I'll have more feedback for others later today, I think. Just popped in real quick while I'm waiting for something.

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  • More feedback.

    @Nirast

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    I like that you can get a super early Ragnaros, but it's way too similar to Blood of The Ancient One to catch my eye. But who knows, maybe people doesn't care about that.

    @anchorn4m

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    I think I prefer DH Tony, but since you usually can only attack once per turn, I wouldn't make it a legendary.

    If you still decide to make him a legend, you could use Varedis, who is one of the first five Blood Elves who became a DH.

    @grayghost39

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    I think the card doesn't break the rules, but it seems a bit dull, IMO. Dunno, the fact that Gift of the Wild is basically a mass Mark of the Wild makes the flavor a little bit better, but I'm still not fully convinced.

    @CovenantKevlar

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    Kinda funny. Now you can make a cheese omelette in an Egg Deck :)

    It's a simple card, but the flavor is good and people might like it.

    @Cg8889

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    I don't like that the card is worded in an unsual way so that it can work with the generated card. I mean, the interaction itself is fine, but the wording is a bit unintuitive.

    How about making the card a minion with the following text: "Whenever a friendly minion dies, give your hero +1 Attack. Outcast: Add 'Command the Illidari' to your hand. Of course, the minion would need to be understated. If you make this change, the generated card could be Coordinated Strike instead.

    @MrRhapsody

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    All your cards have superb flavor, really. I think I'd go with Surprise Element because its flavor is so funny I actually laughed IRL, even if the effect isn't the most interesting thing in the world. Weather Forecast is also cool, but its high RNG factor might be off-putting for some people.

  • Ok after feedback and trying to fit everything on the card in four lines, I came up with the new version of the same aspect:

    Feedback

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    @linkblade91 - Love the idea behind Primal Fury because I like cards that incorporate cards that don't see play in Standard (hence my design as well). I think it could maybe even less since you still have to play the cards that are added. 

    @Demonxz95 - Really hope we get an expansion soon that focuses on Combo for Rogues. Always thought it was one of the class identities that hasn't seen much support. With that said, card is balanced and fair. Also the art is really cool.

    @KANSAS - Like the re-design of it being a Rogue card. Checks the boxes of things Rogues want. 

    @BloodMefist - Love Something Fishy for the context of the card but seems like a major bummer for one deck in the meta and everyone else it doesn't really affect as you probably aren't wanting to target your own Murlocs. With that said, I think the best design is High Priestess Ishanah but could be a problem in Wild for Divine Spirit / Inner Fire as that one card puts 5 high health minions on the board at one time. 

    @Xarkkal - Agree with your statement about dropping the Rush if keeping it at 3 mana. Raising the card to 4 mana and keeping Rush is the idea I would personally like to see. 

    @Pokeniner - The idea of the card being a Mech is probably best since the change for Fel Cannons would be something unique that I don't believe has happened in the game yet. 

    @Nirast - It's one of those cute combos that have been seen in the game before but just not seeing why anyone would try and run this when we have broken stuff in the game that can get Rag out without a combo to set it up (Big Priest, Shaman, Rogue). I feel like the card could have at least Chillwind Yeti stats as the combo more than likely would be hard to pull off.

    @anchorm4n - Illidari Blacksmith #2 scares me as you are going to get a free 3/4 taunt as we have seen that most DH aren't playing Outcast cards without its effect (plus I think it has to add a card to your hand or shuffle it in the deck so don't think this one works). The first design is better since you have to still play the Warglaives. The legendary is neat but as we already saw with Priestess that 7 Health is an issue and this card in my mind is even scarier of an idea that un-nerfed Priestess.

    @grayghost39 - Not sure if the first option works since it doesn't add the card in some way and just casts it. You could have it where the card added to their hand has a discount and raise the base cost appropriately.

    @CovenantKevlar - Think the card is great flavorwise and having 3 extra Lackey generators would be worth it for certain classes. It does run into the issue eggs have in the game right now and this does seem possibly stronger than eggs. Yes you have to play the Cable Rats but you also are getting 3 of them where eggs just summon a minion on death. Not sure if that is just my take but seem like it could be stronger for a value Lackey deck.

    @MrRhapsody - Love Weather Forecast but definitely change Blizzard to a Shaman spell. Maybe Earthquake would work better.

  • Better idea?

  • My mind immediately jumped to Old Gods and the beautiful lore 

  • Mistress of Fate would be intended to be used in a Plot Twist deck to provide more consistency and to fulfill the Supreme Archeology quest faster. 

    My other potential card would be "Cause of the Light" which would support Pure Paladin. I think it is balanced, because it requires you to give up a card in your opening hand to make your deck better one turn 4 at the earliest (without Paladin card draw). It also naturally balances itself, since the more Neutral cards you include in your deck the more turns it will take on average for the card to go off. This would also allow for experimentation on a Pure Paladin deck with 10+ Neutral cards that just uses this quest to activate the Pure cards in the late-game.

  • Three ideas so far:

    Clever Marksman is a simple card to help with the hunter cards in Rise of Shadows.  It can work with Arcane Fletcher and Thori'dal, the Stars' Fury.

    Drill Sargent can be used in mainly in midrange and control warrior decks to provide tools needed to control the board, by dealing with either multiple small minions, a medium-sized minion, or a large minion with an enabler.

    Brigitte Abbendis is a payoff for self-damage warlock decks.  Since you're most likely be dealing enough damage to yourself that you're low on health, Mal'Ganis can protect yourself and buff your other demons.

    Feedback (in progress)

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    CursedParrot

    Mistress of Fate is interesting and I like the idea.  1 needs to be in parentheses, because it's referring to a cost. I think that with 2 of these in your deck, you can have 8 Plot Twists, which might be too many and make the quest too easy to complete.  At the same time, the Plot Twist takes up one of your draws and the deck needs tools to be able to survive to complete the quest.  I think I like it with 2 copies shuffled in and some sort of casts when drawn effect instead of the cost reduction.

    I don't think that Cause of the Light provides enough of a reward unless your deck has mainly neutral cards, which makes the quest hard to complete and provides less of a reward since your deck will not have many cards left by the time it is completed.  I think it I prefer having it shuffle 10 or 15 copies into your deck instead with a higher requirement (maybe 5 or 6 paladin cards).  It would help Pure Paladin the most but still supports decks that want to run neutrals.

    bigcums

    I like the card, but does the healing need to be restricted to spells only?  I think it could open up more possibilities if it could work with all of your healing, even if means increasing the requirement. Also, try to arrange the text so that Lightlord is not the only word in the fourth line in the card. The text looks a little crammed in to me.

    Pokeniner

    Seems really solid.  I like seeing classes get support for archetypes that haven't been seen yet.

    Cg8889

    The text seems really crammed in to me, so it doesn't look great from an aesthetic perspective, but there's really no way to fix it othet than changing the effect.  Other then that, I like how the abilities work with one another.  It provides a way for Demon Hunter to deal with bigger minions that doesn't undermine its weaknesses.

    MrRhapsody

    I think that the Beast Training Manual might be underpowered because both Play Dead and Tracking are 1 mana spells and Play Dead would be unless if you're not running any deathrattle minions.

    I like Surprise Element the most in terms of gameplay, but I like the Weather Forecast the most in terms of flavor and creativity.  I think they are both very nice cards.  For Weather Forecast, Casts when Drawn doesn't need quotes.  I don't mind Blizzard as one of the spells because it's an effect that could fit in Shaman, even if its a mage spell, but I think that Rain of Toads could also work since Lightning Storm is already a board clear.  

    KANSAS

    I like the card and the flavor. I'm not sure what makes it worth epic rarity, or more importantly why is WANTED! an epic?

    Looking at the comments, let's just say the dentist is working on your behalf, but it wants to keep the coin for itself so it's going to give you a counterfeit coin. 

    CovenantKevlar

    I like cheese, so I'll be likely to eat this before the rats come XD

    3 might be a little too many, I think it would be better with 2 rats at 2 mana.

    grayghost39

    The second option seems really slow.  Maybe have it add 3 or 4 Mark of the Wild spells to your hand instead, so it works like Gift of the Wild but with the option to play it in chunks?

    anchorm4n

    I think of the first version of Illidari Blacksmith, but with higher stats and taunt instead of the battlecry, would be best.  I feel like the battlecry doesn't relate to the outcast ability and makes the card feel like its trying to do too much at once.  The second might be okay balance-wise but it might scare some people.  

    The legendary card being able to add multiple copies of Twin Slice into your hand starts heading towards multiple card generation, which is supposed to be one of Demon Hunter's weaknesses.

    Nirast

    I don't like that you have to wait one turn to get Ragnaros to deal damage.  I think this would be better as a battlecry.  Other than that, nice card.

    Xarkkal

    I really like the 3 mana version without Rush.  It makes a good parallel with Lightforged Zealot.

    BloodMefist

    High Priestess Ishanah is way too powerful.  There's room to make Boommaster Flark better, but not by THAT much.  That being said, I like this one the most out of the three.

    Something Fishy functions more like a tech card.  I could see it used in some murloc decks to chain Hungry Crabs. It should say battlefield instead of field.

    Set the Table! I like because it can potentially give each discard a free 3/3, as well as potential discard targets later on.

    Demonxz95

    Toxin Alchemist might be a little hard to use, but I enjoy the design.  I don't much to say other than its a solid card.

    linkblade91

    All three cards seem pretty good to me.  There's not one in particular that I like the most. Volcanic Guardian would be better off as a neutral imo.  I don't know what makes it a shaman card.

     

  • I liked the direction Ishanah pushed, but she was definitely too strong.  I toned down her offensive stats and made it into a weaker, but continuous effect.  Her immediate board impact is not nearly as strong, but she puts a bit more pressure on the board by herself.

    I love the Hungry Crab idea too much to abandon it, but the spell was too niche and janky to use.  Slacker has good stats for the cost, but basically requires you to trade him in or get rid of him yourself lest the opponent gets a free tempo swing.  I think it creates some interesting play options from both sides.  Not sold on the name, open to suggestions!

    I liked the original design for Set the Table, but thought I would see how a slightly different approach would work/be received.  Overlaps a bit more with Silverware Golem and isnt as unique, but the effect is much easier to make use of since you do not need an overabundance of cards that discard to play it.  It also takes away the major pop-off potential that the old design was capable of and offers a more mediocre pop-off.

    IRL work stuff has slowed me down in getting feedback out, but I'll try to get some out tomorrow!      

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      My favorite card after the changes is Set the Table! Unsuspecting Slacker is pretty bad. It isn't worth getting an extra +1 Health on your murloc at the cost of giving your opponent a Hungry Crab. And High Priestess Ishanah is now probably too slow to be good. But I do really like Set the Table! The cost is high enough for it to be hit by Expired Merchant or Nightshade Matron, and the effect isn't too powerful since it requires an extra step to get going. Though Discard Warlock is already a strong deck in wild, so you may need to tune it down a bit. Maybe change it to 3 mana, but remove the discard effect.

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  • What if...
    Arch-Villain Rafaam convinced Archmage Antonidas to join the League of evil?
    And what if the Archmage was secretely still trying to help the defenders of Dalaran?

    I think it would look a little something like this:

  • Thanks for the feedback! I decided to drop DH Tony because generating multiple cards is against Demon Hunter's class identity (thanks grumpymonk!) and the Illidari Blacksmith because the [Hearthstone Card (Warblaides of Azzinoth) Not Found] originate from Azzinoth and making him a card would be kinda boring.

    I just found cool art for an iconic card I'd like to build my entry around, just need to come up with an interesting effect and I'll show it to you :-)

    In the meantime, more feedback!

    bananenparty:

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    This is somewhat… crazy. Two major flaws for me: 1) The card is not strong enough to compensate for the negative effect of giving your opponent fireballs. The only option to exploit this I can make out would be clogging their hand and make them mill a card when their turn starts. 2) I don't like art that shows Hearthstone cards (that's a personal thing, though). So all in all, the idea is fun enough, but the card isn't very good.

    BloodMefist:

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    Set the Table! looks great now. I'd love to run this in Wild Disco Lock.

    grumpymonk:

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    Drill Sargent looks best out of the three. Maybe a little forced, but nice flavor and very versatile.

    CursedParrot:

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    I'd go with Mistress of fate, but instead of reducing the cost, giving it "Casts when drawn" would be way more interesting. This would also allow giving it strong stats because it could be considered a drawback (lol).

    bigcums:

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    Very close to my own train of thoughts. I like the art, but I feel like the condition is too easy to meet. Also: Why not use the original Majordomo's stats? Nice work!

    Pokeniner:

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    Nice work, although I'm still sad you don't want to make Mecha-Jaraxxus a card :/

    Cg8889:

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    Solid card, but I don't feel the flavor.

    MrRhapsody:

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    Beast training Manual and Weather Forecast both look great. I like Hunter as a class more and the card looks a little more serious, so I'd go with the Manual.

    KANSAS:

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    Nice work, the text looks way better now.

    CovenantKevlar:

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    Hilarious! You probably won't win with this, but it's great!

    grayghost39:

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    Really great card, one of my favorites this week! There shouldn't be a capital letter at the start of "add" (Ysera, The Lich King)

  • Here we go. Medivh came up with some more entertainment for his guests! The Beast Tamer and her pet are a proud bunch, so they won't show up until their audience has gathered. What do you think? Any suggestions for a better name?

  • Load of feedback coming up! EDIT: All feedback is ready!

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    linkblade91: I like Primal Fury using underused basic/classic cards, but it isn't a very interesting effect overall.  Not a fan of Aldor, I feel like it just does too much and has a decent statline to boot.  I really like Volcanic Guardian since it supports chaining elementals, something I wish we got more of. I think it would be better if it were a statted a bit more aggressively or given taunt since it si currently 7 mana for a big dude that doesn't affect the board state. 

    Demonxz95: A nice simple and flavorful effect, I really like it.  It can't do any degenerate pop-off shenanigans since you typically only get 1-2 combos off in a turn and it's pretty easy to remove.  Not sure there's much I would change about this card.

    KANSAS: I like the effect, but the flavor still doesn't mesh quite well with me.  A Counterfeit Coin doesn't make a lot of sense since you're paying him to do something.  Keeping the name as "Back-alley Dentist" would make the Counterfeit Coin make a bit more sense and further fit the flavor into Gadgetzan.  

    Xarkkal: I agree that the only real change this needs is the removal of Rush.  I was initially worried that it would be too strong even without Rush, but then I remembered how weak RR was as a set and that Hunter got a '4 mana 7/7' secret card in Uldum.  Remove Rush and I think this is good to go!

    Pokeniner: I always liked Felcannon and was sad that Mech Warlock never got more support, so I'm a big fan of this design.  That said, I do think Boomsday is not the right set for her.  Since Mech warlock was not been supported in any existing set, I think you should use a unique/custom set emblem.  I also think "Nether-borg Nezzie" over "Nether-cyborg Nezzie" rolls off the tongue a bit easier.  Balance-wise, I think she could be 7 mana with the other Mech requirement, or remove the Mech requirement and make her a 5/3 as an inversion of the Felcannons and as a weaker statline.

    Nirast: Not sure how I feel about this card.  I like other methods of summoning Ragnaros, but this opens the door for some potential abuse cases (you list Priest and Mage as options) and doesn't feel in-flavor.  Ragnaros isn't comprised of his servants, he is his own entity.  I think it could be reworked to a battlecry with an elemental on the board or elemental played last turn requirement, a bit like how Shaman got that card to summon Al'Akir.  Something like "If you played 4 Elementals last turn, summon Ragnaros" as a starter idea.

    anchorm4n: Really like Beast Tamer's effect.  Wording I think would be 'if youre opponent control 3 or more minions' rather than 'has'.  I think a name like 'Menagerie Tamer' or 'Menagerie Beast Master' would work since it is in line with other beast cards from ONiK.

    grayghost39: Seems too strong right now, an alternative reading could be 4 mana 3/3 Battlecry: Give a minion +2/+2 and Taunt, which is similar to a down-costed Bonemare.  I think keeping the current effect but increasing the cost to 5 would work, or making both options add to your hand to slow it down.  With the ladder, you could also lower the cost to 3 or increase its stats.  You could also play around with it adding two Marks for extra flexibility.

    CovenantKevlar: Like the flavor and the effect.  Also like how it is a much slower Lackey card, meaning it is much harder to abuse.  I think the wording needs to be changed a bit though.  Reworded to "Add three 'EVIL Cable Rats' to your hand" frees up more card space is more consistent with existing wording.

    Cg8889: I like Illidari Strategist, but agree that the card does feel a bit cluttered.  That said, I can;t think of a way to get the same effect while cutting down on card text. If it were consistent with other cards, it would have even more text and say "Add a 'Coordinated Strike' spell to your hand".  You could alter the effect by upping the cost and making it cast Coordinated Strike instead of adding it to your hand.  Although it is the same as saying "Summon three 1/1 Illidari with Rush", it does cut down on card space significantly.

    MrRhapsody: I like the flavor of Beast Training Manual, but it's a bit of a boring effect.  I like Surprise Element for the play on words, but think it is not interesting enough.  Weather Forecast is fantastic and super flavorful.  I agree with some other comments that Blizzard is a bit weird since it is a Mage spell and think that Rain of Toads could be a decent substitute.

    bigcums: I really like this effect and how it encourages control Paladin.  I think restricting it to spells might be too difficult since many Paladin healing effects are not spells.  I think you could raise the required healing but remove the spell requisite and it would be good to go.  That said, I also understand wanting to keep the healing at 8 cuz Rag, so maybe a different restriction like 8 health to your hero?

    CursedParrot: I like Mistress of Fate the most out of the two, but the wording should be a bit different.  It should be "Shuffle three 'Plot Twist' spells into your deck".  This is more consistent with other cards and takes up less space.  Not a fan of the quest since it seems a bit janky to use.  You'll likely complete it by the time you need your Pure Paladin cards to come online, but including neutral cards just to turn them into really strong buff cards seems jank. It also might reach a critical mass of Hand of Adals that is too strong.

    grumpymonk: I like Drill Sergeant the most of the three.  It is nice to have a predictable discover-esque effect that your opponent can more reasonably interact with.  I am a tad scared of Heroic Strike generation to mid-range/aggro warrior, so I might consider increasing the cost and stats to push it further from aggro's grubby hands.  Clever Marksman is interesting for his synergy, but makes me go 'meh' when I look at him.  Briggite is interesting and a close second for me, but it doesn't hit quite right for me compared to Drill Sergeant.

    bananenparty: An interesting effect, but I dont think it will work.  You could just shove this into Zoo and not care about your opponent getting Fireballs because you dont cast any spells.

  • I reduced the cost of Primal Fury to 3 as has been suggested, plus I came up with a different card altogether; I wasn't feeling the others:

    I assume if there's only one enemy minion, they would get double-Swiped. And before you ask, I just made Kranak up.

    I'm going to start on feedback now. Sorry I didn't get to it yesterday.

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      I reduced the cost of Primal Fury to 3 as has been suggested, plus I came up with a different card altogether; I wasn't feeling the others:

      I assume if there's only one enemy minion, they would get double-Swiped. And before you ask, I just made Kranak up.

      I'm going to start on feedback now. Sorry I didn't get to it yesterday.

      Stuff's looking good honestly.

      Although, according to Stargazer Luna and Altruis the Outcast, leftmost and rightmost should be written as "left-most" or "right-most". Druid is also not supposed to have good AoE, so I'm not sure if Kranak is too much of a bend or a break in Druid's class parameters.

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        I reduced the cost of Primal Fury to 3 as has been suggested, plus I came up with a different card altogether; I wasn't feeling the others:

        Stuff's looking good honestly.

        Although, according to Stargazer Luna and Altruis the Outcast, leftmost and rightmost should be written as "left-most" or "right-most". Druid is also not supposed to have good AoE, so I'm not sure if Kranak is too much of a bend or a break in Druid's class parameters.

        "Whoops." I'll fix the card before submitting, if I end up with that one. Good catch :)

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    anchorm4n - I think "Lion Tamer" is simple and effective. Beyond that, I like the card: a Savannah Highmane isn't going to light the world on fire, so who cares if he comes down a turn earlier with a 2/2 attached? Might make the card see some "use".

    bananenparty - As anchorm4n noted, this card does not have enough power behind it to justify giving your opponent a handful of Fireballs. I can understand trying to mill your opponent's good cards by filling their hand, but Fireball is not the answer: they'll just kill you with them.

    BloodMefist - I like Set the Table! the most, and this is coming from someone who hates Discardlock lol. I find the Priestess kind of boring, and the Slacker is not worth the +1 Health.

    grumpymonk - I like Brigitte Abbendis: it's something different versus the various "Add (X) to your hand" effects floating around in this competition. And who wouldn't want to see a return of Mal'Ganis?

    Cursed Parrot - I like the idea behind Cause of the Light, but a Legendary Quest all by itself in Ashes of Outland? One that flies in the face of all other Quests that come before? It's very weird. That being said, I like Mistress of Fate: I've been trying to play Plot Twist Warlock myself, and I could definitely use more Plot Twists lol.

    bigcums - I like the idea, but it's not Ragnaros THE Lightlord, it's just Ragnaros, Lightlord. Also I wonder if 8 Health restored is too easy, considering Amber Watcher does that in a single card. 8-meme aside, I think if you increase the requirement and drop the "the" as appropriate, you've got a potential winner.

    Pokeniner - I loved Fel Cannon back in the day for whatever reason, so any excuse to bring it back is a good one :) I think it's sort of weird for Nezzie to be a Mech - she looks mostly fleshy in the art - but I understand why you had to do that, gameplay-wise.

    Cg8889 - I honestly feel like the Outcast is tacked on because you have to have it; it creates a feeling where there's too much going on with this 3/2/2 Rare. I'm not sure how to fix this feeling :(

    KANSAS - I'm amused that the Dentist has made a comeback, although adding Counterfeit Coin to it does feel like you're cheating a little. Why would the text need to be anything beyond the Coin itself, except because you needed a collectible card?

    CovenantKevlar - I like it: it's an amusing "egg" minion. I say go for it haha

    grayghost39 - The first option would probably just say "Give a minion +2/+2 and Taunt"; or…." It would be faster and easier to say that, so in that sense you are kind of stretching it a little. You have Gift of the Wild in the second option, so you're ultimately fine if you remove the first card-reference.

    Nirast - I like the card as-is, being a Neutral. It's like Blood of The Ancient One, but for a much-more-popular character. One of the "Pros" you left off is the potential to work on the Ragnaros over multiple turns; putting down one on turn-4 and another on turn-5, for example. All-in-all, I think it's fine.

    Xarkkal - I would drop the Rush off Trapper Keeper. I think there's too much going on with the card, and I'd rather keep the card as a 3/3/2.

    Demonxz95 - I'm not sure what the intended archetype Toxin Alchemist is supposed to be used in; she feels like a card without a home. Something with a lot of Combo effects, obviously, but do you plan to use those Deadly Poisons on anything other than your basic 1/2 knife? I don't know, but then again I don't play the Rogue so maybe I just don't see the whole picture.

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  • Once again you guys surprise me. Didn't expected such aproval over Wether Forecast, thanks for the feedback. But about the use of Blizzard in it, i really didn't wanted change it, since a Blizzard is an actual climatic condition, but since there were lots of requests to change it, i've replaced Blizzard with... Volcano! Why Volcano do you ask me? Two reasons: 1- Rain of Toads were the one i was going to put, but the card ended up too wordy. 2- Healing Rain and Volcano are both from the Year of the Mammoth, so putting them together makes the card more realistic. Also, thats the same reason why i've decided to cut the second favorite: Earthquake. Hope you guys like the new version, and now my feedback. 

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    Demonxz: I like it, but i would like it more if it costed (2) and had lower stats. Whirlkick Master was 2 mana and even yet it rarelly triggered its effect ( at least from my Arena experience), so a 2/2 or 2/3 stat line and a (2) cost would be better IMO.

    Xarkkal: Yeah, 4 cost seens more fair and realistic. Removing Rush would just make it a little less insane, at 4 it would be at the same power level as Hyena Alpha, or maybe just a little bit higher. In general, i like it.

    Nirast: Good callback to Blood of the Ancient One, i like it, but you probably should remove the line break after "into".

    Grayghost: I don't know, Gift of the Wild is pretty bad even when generated, most of the time it i'll be just a 5/5 with Taunt. At about Power of the Wild or Wild Growth? It i'll make it less flavourful but also more versatile and useful.

    CovenantKevlar: Three seens like a lot, it can complete the Shaman quest in one shot in the right situation. What about change it to " At the end of your turn, add an EVIL Cable Rat to your hand."?, it would make it more balanced and flavourful, passing the idea that the Cheese is smelling and is slowly attracting the rats.

    KANSAS: Looks better than the old one, and if you remember, i was one of the few who liked the old one back in the "I Miss my X" comp. Honestly, i don't know how people didn't get the flavor from it, he does his work in a painful way, yet the client gets satisfied and pay him for his job, but since he works for you, the coin goes to you, that simple. Also, haven't people ever heard of golden teeths?

    Cg8889: I Like it, but that effect is worth of an Epic card or even a Legendary but with more effects IMO. Not complaining tho, it's just a sugestion.

    Pokeniner: Thats a lot of stats for 8 mana, even with the restriction. But i don't think it is broken, just really powerful, worth of making Mechlock a real thing, and as a Mech Warlock enthusiast ( for real, i played my Mechlock homebrew a lot when Boomsday came out) i realy liked it!

    Bigcums: I'll be honest, i'm not a fan of [Hearthstone Card (Jan'alai) Not Found]'s wannabes, i have a little runt on them, and since i'm suspected to evaluate it, i'll leave it to others to evaluate.

    CursedParot: Really loved Misstres of Fate, but giving the Plot Twist Casts When Drawn would make a easy 5 star for me. Also, you should put () between the 1.

    grumpymonk: Clever Marksman is my favorite, it's a good paralel to Violet Spellwing. I like Drill Sargent too, but it seens a little unrealistic, and for Brigitte Abbendis, as i said above, not a fan of [Hearthstone Card (Jan'alai) Not Found]'s wannabes.

    Bloodmefist: I like them all, but i like Set the Tabble a little more. It's balanced, flavorful and also funny. Good job on all of them.

    Banananparty: Seens kinda meh, it i'll most of the time be just a 5 mana 5/7, and i'm not a fan of legendaries with nothing but raw stats. At about make it a 4 mana 5/7 or 7/5 and make it cast the fire ball right on your face? It would not only make it even more bulky for the stats, but also have a double edge blade, dealing a lot of damage to you, but also sinergizing with cards like Molten Giant, Hooked Reaver, Duskbat, etc.

    anchorm4n: Really liked it, very flavourful. As you asked, i'll give some name suggestion, at about Menagerie Tamer, Circus Beastmaster, Flamering Sideshow, or maybe a mix of those? I don't know, at least i've tried.

    linkblade: I'll would go with Primal Fury, it fits Druid more since board clears is not ecxatly their strenght and the flavour is amazing. Took me a while to realise (I'm a little sleepy today), but when i did i fell in love with it, nice job.

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      Once again you guys surprise me. Didn't expected such aproval over Wether Forecast, thanks for the feedback. But about the use of Blizzard in it, i really didn't wanted change it, since a Blizzard is an actual climatic condition, but since there were lots of requests to change it, i've replaced Blizzard with... Volcano! Why Volcano do you ask me? Two reasons: 1- Rain of Toads were the one i was going to put, but the card ended up too wordy. 2- Healing Rain and Volcano are both from the Year of the Mammoth, so putting them together makes the card more realistic. Also, thats the same reason why i've decided to cut the second favorite: Earthquake. Hope you guys like the new version, and now my feedback. 

       

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      Demonxz: I like it, but i would like it more if it costed (2) and had lower stats. Whirlkick Master was 2 mana and even yet it rarelly triggered its effect ( at least from my Arena experience), so a 2/2 or 2/3 stat line and a (2) cost would be better IMO.

      Xarkkal: Yeah, 4 cost seens more fair and realistic. Removing Rush would just make it a little less insane, at 4 it would be at the same power level as Hyena Alpha, or maybe just a little bit higher. In general, i like it.

      Nirast: Good callback to Blood of the Ancient One, i like it, but you probably should remove the line break after "into".

      Grayghost: I don't know, Gift of the Wild is pretty bad even when generated, most of the time it i'll be just a 5/5 with Taunt. At about Power of the Wild or Wild Growth? It i'll make it less flavourful but also more versatile and useful.

      CovenantKevlar: Three seens like a lot, it can complete the Shaman quest in one shot in the right situation. What about change it to " At the end of your turn, add an EVIL Cable Rat to your hand."?, it would make it more balanced and flavourful, passing the idea that the Cheese is smelling and is slowly attracting the rats.

      KANSAS: Looks better than the old one, and if you remember, i was one of the few who liked the old one back in the "I Miss my X" comp. Honestly, i don't know how people didn't get the flavor from it, he does his work in a painful way, yet the client gets satisfied and pay him for his job, but since he works for you, the coin goes to you, that simple. Also, haven't people ever heard of golden teeths?

      Cg8889: I Like it, but that effect is worth of an Epic card or even a Legendary but with more effects IMO. Not complaining tho, it's just a sugestion.

      Pokeniner: Thats a lot of stats for 8 mana, even with the restriction. But i don't think it is broken, just really powerful, worth of making Mechlock a real thing, and as a Mech Warlock enthusiast ( for real, i played my Mechlock homebrew a lot when Boomsday came out) i realy liked it!

      Bigcums: I'll be honest, i'm not a fan of Jan'alai's wannabes, i have a little runt on them, and since i'm suspected to evaluate it, i'll leave it to others to evaluate.

      CursedParot: Really loved Misstres of Fate, but giving the Plot Twist Casts When Drawn would make a easy 5 star for me. Also, i'll should put () between the 1.

      grumpymonk: Clever Marksman is my favorite, it's a good paralel to Violet Spellwing. I like Drill Sargent too, but it seens a little unrealistic, and for Brigitte Abbendis, as i said above, not a fan of Jan'alai's wannabes.

      Bloodmefist: I like them all, but i like Set the Tabble a little more. It's balanced, flavorful and also funny. Good job on all of them.

      Banananparty: Seens kinda meh, it i'll most of the time be just a 5 mana 5/7, and i'm not a fan of legendaries with nothing but raw stats. At about make it a 4 mana 5/7 or 7/5 and make it cast the fire ball right on your face? It would not only make it even more bulky for the stats, but also have a double edge blade, dealing a lot of damage to you, but also sinergizing with cards like Molten Giant, Hooked Reaver, Duskbat, etc.

      anchorm4n: Really liked it, very flavourful. As you asked, i'll give some name suggestion, at about Menagerie Tamer, Circus Beastmaster, Flamering Sideshow, or maybe a mix of those? I don't know, at least i've tried.

      linkblade: I'll would go with Primal Fury, it fits Druid more since board clears is not ecxatly their strenght and the flavour is amazing. Took me a while to realise (I'm a little sleepy today), but when i did i fell in love with it, nice job.

       

       

      Kinda already submitted unfortunately.

      But I love the flavor of your card. I'm not sure how practical it would be in terms of playability, but everything else is an A+.

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      Two reasons: 1- Rain of Toads were the one i was going to put, but the card ended up too wordy

      I was afraid of that, when I suggested it. It's too bad: I liked Rain of Toads because it gave each of the spells a different purpose, whereas now you have an overlap in the damage cards. Still, I like it :)

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  • I am really torn about how to properly balance my idea.  Some say that the requirement is too easy, some say it is too hard. I based the balance on the requirement of Jan'alai, the Dragonhawk with the caveat that Ragnaros, Lightlord is quite weak compared to the Firelord version so the requirement had to be a bit less strict. Jan'alai also was printed during the Baku meta so the requirement was pretty much always met by turn 7. 

    So, now I have 3 options for the card and I want to see what card I should choose. I will go in the order of balance I think is best suited.

    Please help me out if any of you have a suggestion regarding what I should pick

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      I am really torn about how to properly balance my idea.  Some say that the requirement is too easy, some say it is too hard. I based the balance on the requirement of Jan'alai, the Dragonhawk with the caveat that Ragnaros, Lightlord is quite weak compared to the Firelord version so the requirement had to be a bit less strict. Jan'alai also was printed during the Baku meta so the requirement was pretty much always met by turn 7. 

      So, now I have 3 options for the card and I want to see what card I should choose. I will go in the order of balance I think is best suited.

      Please help me out if any of you have a suggestion regarding what I should pick

      I'd say the hero version makes the most sense since you typically don't heal minions unless you use the Priest Hero Power, which you obviously won't have in Paladin.

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      • I was thinking you can always use minions to do that, like Potion Vendor or Amber Watcher or spells. I think the hero version is a bit too easy and it would require the least effort to use the card making it a bit of an auto-include in all decks. 

  • Thank you so much for all of your feedback! <3

    As linkblade pointed out Fireballs are just way too easy for your opponent to use, so I turned those into Pyroblasts. Of course, if your opponent can somehow combo with them, that's even crazier, but getting a bunch of 10 mana spells just cloggs your hand for a while.

    I wanted Antonidas to stay true to his original stat line and design, so changing his stats seems off to me. I also can't see him as a 4 cost, but maybe you can convince me that it's still not good enough at 5 mana.

  • Based on feedback I changed my "Mistress of Fate" card to this:

    Now she also serves the purpose of potentially disrupting your opponent's combos by reshuffling their hand. I made it a Deathrattle so it would synergize better with cards like Fel Lord Betrug and Dollmaster Dorian, and also so that her effect would be disruptable with Silence.

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    @Linkblade91

    I like Primal Fury, it seems like it'd synergize well with attack druid and big hand druid. If you want to make it a bit more proactive, you could make it add 1 copy of Claw, Bite, and Pounce to your hand, so that you could use Pounce that turn if you don't have extra Mana.

    @MrRaphsody

    I feel like Volcano might not be a good idea, since it can affect your own board. Other than that, you card seems really cool!

    @Bigcums

    If you want the requirement to be harsher, maybe it could be "If you've restored Health 8 times this game" so that it can't be easily fulfilled with a single Lay on Hands.

    @Bannenparty

    I'm not sure about Antonidas. Basically you'd want to run him in a Warlock deck with few spells to get a slightly overstated 5 drop, which seems really weak. However, if he were 4 Mana he'd be ridiculously strong. Maybe it'd be better if he was something like a 5 Mana 5/7 with "Battlecry: Shuffle a 'Pyroblast' spell into your opponent's deck for each spell in your hand" so that he has a real downside that could be leveraged as an upside in certain cases.

  • 24 hours left to submit! Good luck to everybody :)

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  • Not a lot of entries in both competitions so far. I could imagine that having to find two matching pieces of art was too much of an issue for some people in the other competition. 

    Anyway, that Vengeful Voidmaster looks like a cool card! I think it's a little OP but it's very flavorful and a cool design. Well done! 

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      Not a lot of entries in both competitions so far. I could imagine that having to find two matching pieces of art was too much of an issue for some people in the other competition. 

      Anyway, that Vengeful Voidmaster looks like a cool card! I think it's a little OP but it's very flavorful and a cool design. Well done! 

      It was tough, agreed. I ended up just finding a piece of art with two characters in it, so I could split them and make separate cards. To those folks who made two or even three cards with matching art, many kudos, snaps, props, and other four letter words of appreciation to you!

      This contest was also tough, because it's so rare for Blizzard to release a card that references another card (I think Mike Donais has even said that they don't like to do that?). I went through a bucket of ideas (and an irresistible urge to create an 50% Ogre, however that came about) which I felt were neat, but could also be executed without generating a card or didn't have enough flavor to justify the generation. Not to mention, the pool to choose from is basically limited to Classic cards. Looking at other folks' entries, it seems like I wasn't the only one who found those bits to be a struggle. There were a couple people who bent the 'guidelines' and still came up with cards I thought would be fun, though (Including the Cheese Egg, unironically, haha). 

      I enjoy how doing these competitions makes ya very aware of Blizzard's unwritten design rules. Most folks here, it seems, agree that a good fan card should be something which could be printed - flavorful, balanced, not complicated, etc. - which limits the pool of acceptable ideas but, I think, brings you closer to the game in a satisfying way.

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        I enjoy how doing these competitions makes ya very aware of Blizzard's unwritten design rules. Most folks here, it seems, agree that a good fan card should be something which could be printed - flavorful, balanced, not complicated, etc. - which limits the pool of acceptable ideas but, I think, brings you closer to the game in a satisfying way.

        That is very true. Ppl will always like if the card(s) look as close to being passable additions to the game as possible. Be it balance, flavor, art etc. You can still come up with some cool ideas even within the "general" constrains of this type of card design and it is that much more rewarding when years later, you see Blizzard making a card that you made before. Quite a few ppl from competitions like this had that privilege in one form or another.

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  • I don't see the competition(s) for this week - are we waiting for the written in the cards comp to finish up first?

    • Quote From grumpymonk

      I don't see the competition(s) for this week - are we waiting for the written in the cards comp to finish up first?

      Yep! You'll see the next comp in about 45 minutes.

      Congratulations to LesserHealer, by the way! :D

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  • Freeze Shaman definitely needed that winning card.

    LesserHealer, you get to design the first prompt for season 2.

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  • Congrats LesserHealer! Loved seeing Freeze Shaman getting some serious love. Great design!

  • Congrats to LesserHealer!

  • Congrats LesserHealer! Cool idea!