I decided to make another card since I don't really like my current card. How does this one look?
A 1-mana 3/3 scared me at first-glance, but thinking about it some more I guess the card is a different brand of Flame Imp. +1 Health, but your opponent gets a minion instead of 3 damage to your own face. It might turn off those who have that same initial thought process, though.
Yeah the outlandish burn down is over anyway, double casting +1/+1 to All minions everywhere for 0 mana twice a turn seems fair, only came close to losing to 0 mana deal 3 damage twice per turn to everything..
Sure, it's not a bug but that just made those 2 decks unbeatable, almost no matter what they draw.
People talk about synergies, yet they dont understand nab is the synergy.
If deny said "Deny any spell or ally from entering play, put that card into hand, you may cast it for 1 less. Plunder, draw a card from your opponents deck and you may also play that" people would freak out and want it banned.
Yet for 2 you can do pretty much that. Deck disruption and card advantage is the synergy. Its a broken mechanic and it needs to go away. Changing it to the bottom is mostly meaningless.
Its crazy that a card game with so few cards, and so few mechanics would actually foster this type of play style. Its beyond me, and has completely turned me off from the game.
That's got to be the worst analogy/comparison/whatever you wanna call it I've seen in a while. "Imagine this one card that is now an extremely exaggerated effect of another card, yeah that'd be broken wouldn't it?"
Deck disruption, especially now that it's drawn from the bottom of your deck, isn't a thing. Very little, if any, games go to fatigue (unless you're talking about deep, for which Nab only compliments its gameplan) so you never would've been able to play that exact card during that exact game anyway.
With that out of the way, the opponent basically just gets a random card at a potential mana discount. Except you can play around it far better than an actual random card, because it's one from your deck.
I really don't get the excessive amount of hate towards Nab when it really isn't unbalanced. It feels bad, sure. But from a logical card-game perspective it's just another mechanic.
In my opinion, it should be Give all allies +X/+X this round, where X is the number of spells you've played. In most cases, that would play like a sup'ed up For Demacia! The fact that the current implementation "undoes" your units' existing stats is just too restrictive IMHO--it means you can ONLY play this card in decks with units with low stats and lots of spells, which is extremely niche.
Edit 2: @Dermostatic please explain the solution to us!
Happy to! :)
Starting off, anchorm4n, you absolutely clued me in on how to go about this puzzle with your earlier post about capital letters, so I give you full points for thinking about this the right way. I'd been scouring Mech minions for random capitals (à la SN1P-SN4P) and trying to decipher DestroyerR's posts in this thread for hidden capital cities or misplaced capital letters.
In terms of my process, I started noticing some awkward capitalisation here and there on this thread, but didn't get much from that alone. So, I went into the mess of DestroyerR's forum posts. Not just here in the Treasure Hunt, but the full list you can find on a user's homepage.
I worked backwards, which is why it took me some time. We were told that we needed to know history, and I figured that DestroyerR had been working on this for a while, but (thankfully) not for years. Like you anchorm4n my initial search was to gather as many capital letters as possible from all posts I could read in about 30 minutes, which yielded no results and a mild headache. Then, I noticed that some of the posts I'd read had interesting capitalisation. Most noticeable was that these posts all had lowercase writing, with one glaring capital letter. The first one I stumbled upon was this post from about a month ago:
moroes is a groom, so maybe that. maybe a minion with Deathrattle for the relapse part?
Proper punctuation but improper capitalisation? I thought this had to be a clue, so I noted the letter "D" in a separate document. I kept going back and gathered some more letters. Some posts were in this thread, some were in the card design competition thread; heck, one was in a thread about whether or not to disenchant your trash legendaries!
i don’t know about others, but i pretty much never disenchant cards i don’t have two of. who knows what whacky fun decks you’ll be able to create down the line? in fact, i even go so far as to not dust even a packfiller Minion. you never know...
Once again, perfect punctuation, excellent grammar but... Not even first person singular "I" was capitalised? Weird. In the end, I had this collection of letters, in order:
D S A M F (Y) D W L A T T M
Immediately after the M, older posts had a normal structure and capitalisation. I knew the answer had to contain these letters. The Y was in brackets because it was capitalised at the beginning of a word and thought it was a red herring to put us off the scent. Then I realised... D for Deathrattle, A for Attack, M for Minion... This must be some card text or a bunch of hints referring to a specific card. From there, it wasn't long before I took the full words rather than just the capital letters and got:
Deathrattle Summon A Minion From (Your) Deck With Less Attack Than This Minion
There's only one card I know of that does this: Meat Wagon. Interestingly, DestroyerR started in reverse, with the older posts containing the last words in the card text. This is really clever, because when you check someone's forum posts, you see them from newest to oldest, and would thus read these words in the order they're meant to go. Also, these posts are consecutive, meaning DestroyerR had to interact with the forum in such a way that they could incorporate their word for the clue in order. *Applause* for taking time and care with this puzzle, I thoroughly enjoyed finding it and was beyond satisfied to have completed it. Truly brilliant.
I've posted all the posts in order in a spoiler below with their appropriate thread and word bolded. I'll post my own riddle soon!
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1. moroes is a groom, so maybe that. maybe a minion with Deathrattle for the relapse part? (Card Treasure Hunt)
2. here’s my initial idea, maybe i’ll think about other ideas later. maybe an hp with a Summon mechanic… anyway, thoughts? (By Your Powers Combined - Card Design Competition)
3. this is A blind guess, but kirin tor mage? kabal lackey could be the addicted “brother”, but i don’t know about the groom part (Card Treasure Hunt)
4. ayyyyyy you did it!! i was starting to think i’d have to hint at a warrior Minion. nicely done, your turn! (Card Treasure Hunt)
5. it absolutely is. a hint: From what it seems, the card is just a bit confused as to the name of the set (Card Treasure Hunt)
6. Your guess is interesting… but nope (Card Treasure Hunt)
7. it’s a minion, but not that one. as for the hint you requested, the de-scrambled answer contains 5 words. another nudge: perhaps you should try to think less about how iconic a card is in a set or Deck in order to pinpoint it, and more about how… flavorful it can be. (Card Treasure Hunt)
8. possibly. the important thing to remember is that there’s a reason why I presented this riddle With an interview: the card is genuinely trying to answer the question conventionally (Card Treasure Hunt)
9. well, maybe a bit Less outside of the box… the anagram does answer the interview question coherently (meaning it’s closer to a set), but consider this: if the anagram only reveals the set, how come that alone is enough to discover the card? (Card Treasure Hunt)
10. i think you may want to change the text. choose one isn’t formatted that way, and the text is barging into the Attack box (Two Quests Are Better Than One - Card Design Competition)
11. that makes a lot of sense. much better to have a little extra text (which can be put into spoilers, so not even that) during the final vote Than potentially making a card lose unfairly because of lack of context (WCDC Idea: "Description from the creator" should be visible during the Final Voting stage)
12. if you want to make This a hagatha reference, there’s already a murloc hagatha art you can use (Two Quests Are Better Than One - Card Design Competition)
13. i don’t know about others, but i pretty much never disenchant cards i don’t have two of. who knows what whacky fun decks you’ll be able to create down the line? in fact, i even go so far as to not dust even a packfiller Minion. you never know… (Disenchant trash tier (and other) legendaries?)
that way you get rid of the "awkwardness" of mind meld I don't see why Swim thinks the card doesn't fit Bilgewater, there is a 1 cost spell generated tokens in the region, and a lot of card draw/fleeting.
Fizz is elusive post Mind Meld and so is Teemo, so here is the solution of getting shump blocked, also there are some 1 drops that have elusive or even fearsome as well, running bad cards in your deck to make a bad card work is never a good idea.
Those are some good suggestions. Ill try them. Thanks.
First of all, your statement about having set this up for a long time and the "history research" make me quite sure that you have hidden the answer in your riddles all over this thread.
Think bigger :^) you’re definitely on the right track. Let me just say that any posts after I posted the riddle (including the riddle post itself) does not count towards what you’re trying to do.
i decided to scrap my other idea because of the token limit. what about this one?
I really like it. But I don't think you need the text on the Carrot. You could just make them 2 mana spells and be fine. Also I think he should be a 3/3. 3 mana 2/3, even if it is immune for a turn, just feels really bad tempo wise. But I really like the Curse of Rafaam-like effect.
First of all, your statement about having set this up for a long time and the "history research" make me quite sure that you have hidden the answer in your riddles all over this thread. You told us to "look for capitals", so I went through fourty.fucking.nine pages and wrote down all the capital letters. They make no sense at all:
I also tried leaving out the "I"s whenever there only was an "I" in the riddle, also to no avail:
AAMYAMHBBOTSOGIAHCCMCHMAHWRWHSTATOWHQWAIATJ
Last but not least, I wrote down all the words with capital letters (without the "I"s). That went to hell as well:
Alona Alas My Yet As My He Beyond But Oobdi Taunt Stab OG If Attack Health Cost Cost My Cost Health My Attack Health Who Rarity Who HS Twins A Think Oh While Here Q What A In This Just
Maybe those words are a riddle theirself, but I can't find any meaning in there yet. Does anyone else?
For the sake of making a guess after all this effort, I go with Illidan Stormrage because of "Alas" and "Twins" and lots of "Attack"s.
that way you get rid of the "awkwardness" of mind meld I don't see why Swim thinks the card doesn't fit Bilgewater, there is a 1 cost random minion generation theme in the region, and a lot of card draw/fleeting.
Fizz is elusive post Mind Meld and so is Teemo, so here is the solution of getting chump blocked, also there are some 1 drops that have elusive or even fearsome as well, running bad cards in your deck to make a bad card work is never a good idea.
[Game] Card Treasure Hunt (The Resurrection Attempt)
Dude, we got Sherlock Holmes up in here lol
glad the riddle was well-enjoyed!
Written In The Cards - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread
A 1-mana 3/3 scared me at first-glance, but thinking about it some more I guess the card is a different brand of Flame Imp. +1 Health, but your opponent gets a minion instead of 3 damage to your own face. It might turn off those who have that same initial thought process, though.
Any thoughts on my updated Yrel?
Blizzard Has Fixed Tavern Brawl Illidan's Instant Win Hero Power and Missing Legendary Quest Rewards
How about fixing the adventure and letting us play with our Wild decks?
Blizzard Has Fixed Tavern Brawl Illidan's Instant Win Hero Power and Missing Legendary Quest Rewards
Yeah the outlandish burn down is over anyway, double casting +1/+1 to All minions everywhere for 0 mana twice a turn seems fair, only came close to losing to 0 mana deal 3 damage twice per turn to everything..
Sure, it's not a bug but that just made those 2 decks unbeatable, almost no matter what they draw.
[Game] Card Treasure Hunt (The Resurrection Attempt)
Wow, incredible work from both of you. I wouldn't have been able to solve this even if I had gotten the letters right. Well played!
Has Yoink Gone Too Far?
That's got to be the worst analogy/comparison/whatever you wanna call it I've seen in a while. "Imagine this one card that is now an extremely exaggerated effect of another card, yeah that'd be broken wouldn't it?"
Deck disruption, especially now that it's drawn from the bottom of your deck, isn't a thing. Very little, if any, games go to fatigue (unless you're talking about deep, for which Nab only compliments its gameplan) so you never would've been able to play that exact card during that exact game anyway.
With that out of the way, the opponent basically just gets a random card at a potential mana discount. Except you can play around it far better than an actual random card, because it's one from your deck.
I really don't get the excessive amount of hate towards Nab when it really isn't unbalanced. It feels bad, sure. But from a logical card-game perspective it's just another mechanic.
How to make Mind Meld an actual viable card. Warning: Long Post
In my opinion, it should be Give all allies +X/+X this round, where X is the number of spells you've played. In most cases, that would play like a sup'ed up For Demacia! The fact that the current implementation "undoes" your units' existing stats is just too restrictive IMHO--it means you can ONLY play this card in decks with units with low stats and lots of spells, which is extremely niche.
Medarda was actually nerfed
Agreed I would stick with the Ren Shadowblade rework which is a lot better.
Supremus
Higlaqnder mage first try
[Game] Card Treasure Hunt (The Resurrection Attempt)
Happy to! :)
Starting off, anchorm4n, you absolutely clued me in on how to go about this puzzle with your earlier post about capital letters, so I give you full points for thinking about this the right way. I'd been scouring Mech minions for random capitals (à la SN1P-SN4P) and trying to decipher DestroyerR's posts in this thread for hidden capital cities or misplaced capital letters.
In terms of my process, I started noticing some awkward capitalisation here and there on this thread, but didn't get much from that alone. So, I went into the mess of DestroyerR's forum posts. Not just here in the Treasure Hunt, but the full list you can find on a user's homepage.
I worked backwards, which is why it took me some time. We were told that we needed to know history, and I figured that DestroyerR had been working on this for a while, but (thankfully) not for years. Like you anchorm4n my initial search was to gather as many capital letters as possible from all posts I could read in about 30 minutes, which yielded no results and a mild headache. Then, I noticed that some of the posts I'd read had interesting capitalisation. Most noticeable was that these posts all had lowercase writing, with one glaring capital letter. The first one I stumbled upon was this post from about a month ago:
moroes is a groom, so maybe that. maybe a minion with Deathrattle for the relapse part?
Proper punctuation but improper capitalisation? I thought this had to be a clue, so I noted the letter "D" in a separate document. I kept going back and gathered some more letters. Some posts were in this thread, some were in the card design competition thread; heck, one was in a thread about whether or not to disenchant your trash legendaries!
i don’t know about others, but i pretty much never disenchant cards i don’t have two of. who knows what whacky fun decks you’ll be able to create down the line? in fact, i even go so far as to not dust even a packfiller Minion. you never know...
8. possibly. the important thing to remember is that there’s a reason why I presented this riddle With an interview: the card is genuinely trying to answer the question conventionally (Card Treasure Hunt)
9. well, maybe a bit Less outside of the box… the anagram does answer the interview question coherently (meaning it’s closer to a set), but consider this: if the anagram only reveals the set, how come that alone is enough to discover the card? (Card Treasure Hunt)
10. i think you may want to change the text. choose one isn’t formatted that way, and the text is barging into the Attack box (Two Quests Are Better Than One - Card Design Competition)
11. that makes a lot of sense. much better to have a little extra text (which can be put into spoilers, so not even that) during the final vote Than potentially making a card lose unfairly because of lack of context (WCDC Idea: "Description from the creator" should be visible during the Final Voting stage)
12. if you want to make This a hagatha reference, there’s already a murloc hagatha art you can use (Two Quests Are Better Than One - Card Design Competition)
13. i don’t know about others, but i pretty much never disenchant cards i don’t have two of. who knows what whacky fun decks you’ll be able to create down the line? in fact, i even go so far as to not dust even a packfiller Minion. you never know… (Disenchant trash tier (and other) legendaries?)
AntiTeron
no.. can't say i recommend this one.
I've tried it 4 times now and Teron just destroyed me every time. I'm sure there's a draw where it will work.. but i haven't gotten it.
Kael'thas Sunstrider
even too easy ... just a classical Face Hunter !
Adventure · Face Hunter · by Grumpy000 · 6 years, 3 months ago
Lady Vashj
quite a classical Quest Resurrect Priest + Alextraza
Adventure · Quest Priest · by Grumpy000 · 6 years, 3 months ago
[Game] Card Treasure Hunt (The Resurrection Attempt)
True enough, between the interview riddle and the current one there are some outstanding capitalizations. I gathered (in chronological order):
MTTALWDFMASD
Plesae don't tell me that's an anagram again. It's sorely missing vowels. Edit 1: Found the vowels, they were hiding in a comment. USOKTYOLERTEPAE
Edit 2: @Dermostatic please explain the solution to us!
[Game] Card Treasure Hunt (The Resurrection Attempt)
ayyyyyyyyyyyy
well done Dermostatic! I can finally use normal capitalization again, it has been a nightmare lol
How to make Mind Meld an actual viable card. Warning: Long Post
Those are some good suggestions. Ill try them. Thanks.
How to make Mind Meld an actual viable card. Warning: Long Post
So your "solutions" are to turn the card into an unstoppable finisher that resolves as early as Turn 7 with little to no counterplay.
[Game] Card Treasure Hunt (The Resurrection Attempt)
Wait...
Is it Meat Wagon?
[Game] Card Treasure Hunt (The Resurrection Attempt)
I've been scouring DestroyerR's forum history too, and have noticed that particular posts have, to put it one way, awkward capitalisation.
I am, however, no closer to a guess.
[Game] Card Treasure Hunt (The Resurrection Attempt)
Think bigger :^) you’re definitely on the right track. Let me just say that any posts after I posted the riddle (including the riddle post itself) does not count towards what you’re trying to do.
Mother Shahraz
Defeated the Mother with this deck. It's a Big Druid with some anti-weapon card, a silence and in particular Alextraza
Adventure · Big Druid · by Grumpy000 · 6 years, 3 months ago
Golden Kael'thas Sunstrider Is not golden
It doesn't look golden if you look at the reward tab of the challenges. But when you get him, it's definitely gold.
Written In The Cards - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread
I really like it. But I don't think you need the text on the Carrot. You could just make them 2 mana spells and be fine. Also I think he should be a 3/3. 3 mana 2/3, even if it is immune for a turn, just feels really bad tempo wise. But I really like the Curse of Rafaam-like effect.
[Game] Card Treasure Hunt (The Resurrection Attempt)
First of all, your statement about having set this up for a long time and the "history research" make me quite sure that you have hidden the answer in your riddles all over this thread. You told us to "look for capitals", so I went through fourty.fucking.nine pages and wrote down all the capital letters. They make no sense at all:
AIIIAIIMIYIIIAMIIIIHBBOIITSIIIIIIOGIIAHCCMCHMAHWRWHSTATOWHQWAIATIJ
I also tried leaving out the "I"s whenever there only was an "I" in the riddle, also to no avail:
AAMYAMHBBOTSOGIAHCCMCHMAHWRWHSTATOWHQWAIATJ
Last but not least, I wrote down all the words with capital letters (without the "I"s). That went to hell as well:
Alona Alas My Yet As My He Beyond But Oobdi Taunt Stab OG If Attack Health Cost Cost My Cost Health My Attack Health Who Rarity Who HS Twins A Think Oh While Here Q What A In This Just
Maybe those words are a riddle theirself, but I can't find any meaning in there yet. Does anyone else?
For the sake of making a guess after all this effort, I go with Illidan Stormrage because of "Alas" and "Twins" and lots of "Attack"s.
How to make Mind Meld an actual viable card. Warning: Long Post
Did you also run von yipp? since it's obvious you don't have to rely 100% on mind meld you need to have back up plans? were your champions fizz/teemo?
I see a Mind Meld deck as a finisher for a Fizz/Teemo deck that runs both Professor von Yipp and Suit Up!.
that way you get rid of the "awkwardness" of mind meld I don't see why Swim thinks the card doesn't fit Bilgewater, there is a 1 cost random minion generation theme in the region, and a lot of card draw/fleeting.
something like this:
Fizz is elusive post Mind Meld and so is Teemo, so here is the solution of getting chump blocked, also there are some 1 drops that have elusive or even fearsome as well, running bad cards in your deck to make a bad card work is never a good idea.