Oh my god this would be so nice! Such a great idea! Your idea to keep them vanilla on board is vital for the concept to have a chance because of new players. I really hope this idea gets through to the devs.
A 1:1 ratio wouldn't work, as others have pointed out. But 1:2 shouldn't break the economy while still making crafting a lot more affordable, which could increase deck variety on ladder.
A different change they could make is add a no-triplicate rule for epics, like we have a no-duplicate rule for legendaries. It always feels terrible to get a third copy of an epic, plus it discourages crafting epics until you've stopped buying packs of a particular set.
I think you mean 1:2 ratio for epics and legendaries. Lets be honest, If I get 20 dust per common dusted, I'll never be buying packs ever again.
No, I mean for all rarities. Even at 1:2, the worst pack would be upgraded from 40 dust to 130 dust, so you'd still need a dozen all-dust packs to craft one legendary.
For me, the amount of packs I buy is limited by how much money I want to spend, which in practice means I never buy packs at full price but do sometimes get bundles. If crafting was cheaper, I'd craft more cards instead of spending less money.
If you already have or can easily get all the cards you need, then I think you can cross out buying the bundles too, even at a discount. I think that's how blizzard thinks people think, and to me that's a fair assumption.
At 130 dust per pack, which just about means a free epic of your choice every three packs, it certainly mean I will never have to fish for epics ever again. Considering that even conservative FTP players can get upwards to 60 packs per expansion, that means the only reason to buy packs (after maxing out rares and commons) will be for legendaries, which make it even less compelling to buy packs for, even at a discount. Let's not forget that a vast majority of legendaries every expansion are quite useless and even fun decks don't go that far.
I think revamping the dust system, if needed at all (and my standing is no), should only include epics and legendaries. Let's throw in rares, I think its still a good compromise. Certainly not commons.
A 1:1 ratio wouldn't work, as others have pointed out. But 1:2 shouldn't break the economy while still making crafting a lot more affordable, which could increase deck variety on ladder.
A different change they could make is add a no-triplicate rule for epics, like we have a no-duplicate rule for legendaries. It always feels terrible to get a third copy of an epic, plus it discourages crafting epics until you've stopped buying packs of a particular set.
I think you mean 1:2 ratio for epics and legendaries. Lets be honest, If I get 20 dust per common dusted, I'll never be buying packs ever again.
No, I mean for all rarities. Even at 1:2, the worst pack would be upgraded from 40 dust to 130 dust, so you'd still need a dozen all-dust packs to craft one legendary.
For me, the amount of packs I buy is limited by how much money I want to spend, which in practice means I never buy packs at full price but do sometimes get bundles. If crafting was cheaper, I'd craft more cards instead of spending less money.
I said it multiple times already I believe that the best solution to the problem is to make packs less garbage.
Change the chance of getting a 40 dust pack from the most common scenario to an edge case and have epics show up every 3rd pack rather than every 5th..
Also would be great if arena rewarded you a legendary every time you get 12 wins.. Instead of random gold..
Would really love it if the Devs let players somehow view the full Art of every Card. Like, going to the Collection Manager and simply clicking on the Card to see the entirety of the Pic instead of just a Close-Up.
I also like your approach to it. Artist would have to change how they approach the pieces in terms of composition and format (as far as I know rn they usually do whatever they want and Blizz just frames it), but that shouldn't be a big Deal. The Thing I'd change though would be the Unlocking as a whole. As much as I like the Art, playing a Card 1000 TIMES is just way too much. I think a simple on/off Option would be better. That Way every Card could have full Art.
The Art is imo one of the most appealing Things of any Card Game. Why Blizzard hasn't done anything with it really is honestly beyond me.
Feel like I'm a bit late to the game but my username came from back when I would skype my friends to play games with them. I didn't (and still don't) have an actual headset and so because of that, when someone would talk, there'd be a bit of echo. Granted this isn't my first username, but it's been this way for about 10 years or so.
It's funny in my opinion because although that's how the name originated, it's always been applicable to me in some other way. Like now whenever I'm in a discord call or some other voice program since I still lack any way to prevent echo, I just type in a voice to mic channel. After a couple of times of doing this (and depending on how well I know the owner of the server), the channel becomes renamed to the "Echo Chamber" since it's just a wall of text from me, making it seem like I was just talking to myself the entire time. There's also the fact I don't like how my voice sounds and thus, don't talk a lot, resorting to using soundboard of people to talk when I have to, this being similar to the Greek myth where a nymph named Ekho (not the same spelling but it's close enough) can only repeat what others say to her, like a parrot, or in this case, like me repeating the words of a person using a soundboard.
I also just like how the name sounds, which I guess is important as well.
Edit: Oh and since some people are talking about profile pictures, mine is my dog, Percival. He's a very good boy
So many things about this product don't make sense to me. First comes the name, Jumpstart. Not only is this a name for a mechanic in standard right now, but at least right now it's not even clear why it's named that. I guess if your new it can jumpstart your collection with a bunch of themed cards, but that doesn't seem great. It's not a thing for a new player to jump in to start playing, as seen in how it's mainly for limited, with some of the cards being only commander/legacy/vintage playable while others being standard legal.
It feels like it would be a fun limited set based on what we know so far, but beyond that, I don't really see who this is supposed to be designed for. Maybe there are some eternal format bombs being reprinted in them? Who knows, I'm just being skeptical until I see what's actually being in the themed lists I guess.
Yeah definitely, it's a super weird deck honestly. Even though the deck's plan is fairly straightforward, a lot of the times it's not clear how to get into that position. I'd recommend taking it into casual first, or trying it at a ranked floor if you are concerned about losing ranks because there's a bit of a learning curve.
A 1:1 ratio wouldn't work, as others have pointed out. But 1:2 shouldn't break the economy while still making crafting a lot more affordable, which could increase deck variety on ladder.
A different change they could make is add a no-triplicate rule for epics, like we have a no-duplicate rule for legendaries. It always feels terrible to get a third copy of an epic, plus it discourages crafting epics until you've stopped buying packs of a particular set.
I think you mean 1:2 ratio for epics and legendaries. Lets be honest, If I get 20 dust per common dusted, I'll never be buying packs ever again.
Great guide for an off meta deck. I played beast hunter myself when Fresh Scent came out, so its nice to see someone not only posting the deck but offering a nicely written guide.
I'd personally make a few changes, in view of the meta;
- remove Escaped Manasaber for Deadly Shot - Embiggen druid metas. Beast druid don't play the long game and the cards are cheap enough that I never think it necessary. If Zul'jin at 10 doesn't win it you usually just don't win.
- I've tried and often find 4 buff cards too clunky in beast hunter. Most of the time, all that's needed is one buff card in hand. I would personally remove 1x Dire Frenzy for either Unleash the Hounds or even Hench-Clan Hogsteed.
I would also caution against saving up cards for the Timber Wolf combo. Its not worth it. Its nice to have, but I've never been able to execute this combo and win. Best way to use Dire Frenzy is still on 1 drops, and on Diving Gryphon and scalehide.
A 1:1 ratio wouldn't work, as others have pointed out. But 1:2 shouldn't break the economy while still making crafting a lot more affordable, which could increase deck variety on ladder.
A different change they could make is add a no-triplicate rule for epics, like we have a no-duplicate rule for legendaries. It always feels terrible to get a third copy of an epic, plus it discourages crafting epics until you've stopped buying packs of a particular set.
They said per pack it will end up being a bit more than normal packs since the booster boxes have less packs in them due to the increased card size.
I imagine each booster box will be going for the usual price, no insane markup like Modern Horizons, though we may see an initially higher price due to demand as is always the case >.>
Get those pre-orders in so you can see them cancelled. lol
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i would replace the card requeriment to "play this card 1000 times" to obtain a regular full art card and 2000 times to a golden one in order to simplify and allow this format to every card. i'm also curious of how these type of card look like on the board. will they have a square shape?
I think it would be best if they maintain the oval shape that we’re all familiar with. Keeping it simple would be the best way to approach it. That’s why if you were to play these, the opponent would see the “Vanilla” version of the card
Its just elementary that you shouldn't be able to dust something at the same cost it takes to craft it. There would not be any incentive to buy packs, except for compulsive collectors.
On the other hand, I never really thought it necessary to revamp the dust system. Its just part and parcel of a FTP (in theory anyway) game. It is necessary to revamp how resources are being distributed, so the game is less expensive to have fun with. The problem isn't the dusting, its getting the cards we want in the first place, either by lowering the RNG or giving more packs for less gold/cash.
A small exercise; if blizzard start selling high value packs at slightly higher costs (packs containing only epics and legendaries, etc.), they'd find out that this would be the preferred choice of everyone buying.
Yasuo Level-Up Requirement: Stun AND Recall or Stun OR Recall?
It was a regular Steel Tempest.
Full Art Cards, A New Hearthstone Reward.
Oh my god this would be so nice! Such a great idea! Your idea to keep them vanilla on board is vital for the concept to have a chance because of new players. I really hope this idea gets through to the devs.
Should hearthstone revamp the dusting system
If you already have or can easily get all the cards you need, then I think you can cross out buying the bundles too, even at a discount. I think that's how blizzard thinks people think, and to me that's a fair assumption.
At 130 dust per pack, which just about means a free epic of your choice every three packs, it certainly mean I will never have to fish for epics ever again. Considering that even conservative FTP players can get upwards to 60 packs per expansion, that means the only reason to buy packs (after maxing out rares and commons) will be for legendaries, which make it even less compelling to buy packs for, even at a discount. Let's not forget that a vast majority of legendaries every expansion are quite useless and even fun decks don't go that far.
I think revamping the dust system, if needed at all (and my standing is no), should only include epics and legendaries. Let's throw in rares, I think its still a good compromise. Certainly not commons.
Should hearthstone revamp the dusting system
No, I mean for all rarities. Even at 1:2, the worst pack would be upgraded from 40 dust to 130 dust, so you'd still need a dozen all-dust packs to craft one legendary.
For me, the amount of packs I buy is limited by how much money I want to spend, which in practice means I never buy packs at full price but do sometimes get bundles. If crafting was cheaper, I'd craft more cards instead of spending less money.
shards limit?
If there was a cap, and probably it's really high, I doubt they would set it as low as 10k or 100k..
The Best and Worst Spells Cast by The Amazing Reno in Standard Ranked by Winrate
How often these spells get castet...?
You mean how offen reno gets played divided by the amount of spells available?
given the samplesize, it is allmost impossible to see any variation between castrates
Full Art Cards, A New Hearthstone Reward.
I don't like it, it will clutter your collection, also 1000 times is a lot of times..
Would rather have achievements with real rewards, have no interest in full arts, specially since you can view them online.
You still get 100 gold for completing the classic set lol.
Should hearthstone revamp the dusting system
I said it multiple times already I believe that the best solution to the problem is to make packs less garbage.
Change the chance of getting a 40 dust pack from the most common scenario to an edge case and have epics show up every 3rd pack rather than every 5th..
Also would be great if arena rewarded you a legendary every time you get 12 wins.. Instead of random gold..
Full Art Cards, A New Hearthstone Reward.
Lovely concept!
Basically this could work as a reward system for Achievements.
The fact the opponent would always see the vanilla version is a necessary safeguard for playability at all times.
They could even think of going beyond the bare full-art, with arts just partially overlapping their frames, as if they were emerging from them.
Full Art Cards, A New Hearthstone Reward.
Would really love it if the Devs let players somehow view the full Art of every Card. Like, going to the Collection Manager and simply clicking on the Card to see the entirety of the Pic instead of just a Close-Up.
I also like your approach to it. Artist would have to change how they approach the pieces in terms of composition and format (as far as I know rn they usually do whatever they want and Blizz just frames it), but that shouldn't be a big Deal. The Thing I'd change though would be the Unlocking as a whole. As much as I like the Art, playing a Card 1000 TIMES is just way too much. I think a simple on/off Option would be better. That Way every Card could have full Art.
The Art is imo one of the most appealing Things of any Card Game. Why Blizzard hasn't done anything with it really is honestly beyond me.
The Hearthstone 2020 Community Summit Leaves Frodan in Shock - Big Changes Coming for Hearthstone in 2020
More coals for the hype train: https://twitter.com/OdemianHS/status/1230549437954478083
According to reddit, he's a "French influencer, under DNA".
Rough translation: "lol they already announced more changes than during the whole time since 2013"
What is the story behind your username?
Feel like I'm a bit late to the game but my username came from back when I would skype my friends to play games with them. I didn't (and still don't) have an actual headset and so because of that, when someone would talk, there'd be a bit of echo. Granted this isn't my first username, but it's been this way for about 10 years or so.
It's funny in my opinion because although that's how the name originated, it's always been applicable to me in some other way. Like now whenever I'm in a discord call or some other voice program since I still lack any way to prevent echo, I just type in a voice to mic channel. After a couple of times of doing this (and depending on how well I know the owner of the server), the channel becomes renamed to the "Echo Chamber" since it's just a wall of text from me, making it seem like I was just talking to myself the entire time. There's also the fact I don't like how my voice sounds and thus, don't talk a lot, resorting to using soundboard of people to talk when I have to, this being similar to the Greek myth where a nymph named Ekho (not the same spelling but it's close enough) can only repeat what others say to her, like a parrot, or in this case, like me repeating the words of a person using a soundboard.
I also just like how the name sounds, which I guess is important as well.
Edit: Oh and since some people are talking about profile pictures, mine is my dog, Percival. He's a very good boy
Magic Announces Jumpstart - A Fusing of Contructed and Limited. Coming to Shelves and Arena This Year
So many things about this product don't make sense to me. First comes the name, Jumpstart. Not only is this a name for a mechanic in standard right now, but at least right now it's not even clear why it's named that. I guess if your new it can jumpstart your collection with a bunch of themed cards, but that doesn't seem great. It's not a thing for a new player to jump in to start playing, as seen in how it's mainly for limited, with some of the cards being only commander/legacy/vintage playable while others being standard legal.
It feels like it would be a fun limited set based on what we know so far, but beyond that, I don't really see who this is supposed to be designed for. Maybe there are some eternal format bombs being reprinted in them? Who knows, I'm just being skeptical until I see what's actually being in the themed lists I guess.
Full Art Cards, A New Hearthstone Reward.
This is so awesome, i love this concept! Its also a way to introduce some kind of achievement system to the game
Wicked Witchdoctor Shaman
Yeah definitely, it's a super weird deck honestly. Even though the deck's plan is fairly straightforward, a lot of the times it's not clear how to get into that position. I'd recommend taking it into casual first, or trying it at a ranked floor if you are concerned about losing ranks because there's a bit of a learning curve.
That aside, hope you enjoy trying it out!
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Should hearthstone revamp the dusting system
I think you mean 1:2 ratio for epics and legendaries. Lets be honest, If I get 20 dust per common dusted, I'll never be buying packs ever again.
Out of Cards Changelog - 2020-02-20
Those are some pretty good changes. Nice work guys!
2020 Beast Hunter
Great guide for an off meta deck. I played beast hunter myself when Fresh Scent came out, so its nice to see someone not only posting the deck but offering a nicely written guide.
I'd personally make a few changes, in view of the meta;
- remove Escaped Manasaber for Deadly Shot - Embiggen druid metas. Beast druid don't play the long game and the cards are cheap enough that I never think it necessary. If Zul'jin at 10 doesn't win it you usually just don't win.
- I've tried and often find 4 buff cards too clunky in beast hunter. Most of the time, all that's needed is one buff card in hand. I would personally remove 1x Dire Frenzy for either Unleash the Hounds or even Hench-Clan Hogsteed.
I would also caution against saving up cards for the Timber Wolf combo. Its not worth it. Its nice to have, but I've never been able to execute this combo and win. Best way to use Dire Frenzy is still on 1 drops, and on Diving Gryphon and scalehide.
Should hearthstone revamp the dusting system
A 1:1 ratio wouldn't work, as others have pointed out. But 1:2 shouldn't break the economy while still making crafting a lot more affordable, which could increase deck variety on ladder.
A different change they could make is add a no-triplicate rule for epics, like we have a no-duplicate rule for legendaries. It always feels terrible to get a third copy of an epic, plus it discourages crafting epics until you've stopped buying packs of a particular set.
Out of Cards Changelog - 2020-02-20
Also, Demon pointed out that the latest round of card nerfs didn't have card images. That was just resolved.
Magic Announces Jumpstart - A Fusing of Contructed and Limited. Coming to Shelves and Arena This Year
They said per pack it will end up being a bit more than normal packs since the booster boxes have less packs in them due to the increased card size.
I imagine each booster box will be going for the usual price, no insane markup like Modern Horizons, though we may see an initially higher price due to demand as is always the case >.>
Get those pre-orders in so you can see them cancelled. lol
Out of Cards Changelog - 2020-02-20
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I think it would be best if they maintain the oval shape that we’re all familiar with. Keeping it simple would be the best way to approach it. That’s why if you were to play these, the opponent would see the “Vanilla” version of the card
Should hearthstone revamp the dusting system
Its just elementary that you shouldn't be able to dust something at the same cost it takes to craft it. There would not be any incentive to buy packs, except for compulsive collectors.
On the other hand, I never really thought it necessary to revamp the dust system. Its just part and parcel of a FTP (in theory anyway) game. It is necessary to revamp how resources are being distributed, so the game is less expensive to have fun with. The problem isn't the dusting, its getting the cards we want in the first place, either by lowering the RNG or giving more packs for less gold/cash.
A small exercise; if blizzard start selling high value packs at slightly higher costs (packs containing only epics and legendaries, etc.), they'd find out that this would be the preferred choice of everyone buying.