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Any suggestion for replacement N’Zoth? Only card I’m missing, although I have considered crafting him many time

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That awesome moment, when you face Exodia mage as thief priest and acquire a copy of their Ice Block. The opponent was very excited, when they assembled the combo, until they saw what secret I stole from them, how I healed myself to 40 and Entombed their Archmage Antonidas.

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but I want to take a moment and praise Conjured Mirage. That card blocked so much damage in the game versus Even Shaman, that I was able to reach turn 7, when I cast Psychic Scream and won a few turns later.

So proud to figure in this weekend selection, thank you Frosty! 😊

Yeah, I know. But the decks above were supposed to resemble cheaper versions of their popular counterparts. The dust threshold was around 2000 and we were asked to stay below that line as much as possible. Initially I ran both copies of the Crystallizer, but with 6 epics alone the deck had exceeded the acceptable crafting cost. That's shy I removed them. But if you go to my zoolock's deck page, you will see a paragraph, where I recommended adding the epics instead of the Witchwood Imps.

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Also had an interesting game against a rogue who had just put 8 copies of Zephrys the Great in his deck after he already used it twice using a Shadowstep. Still managed to win using some big boys on the board though.

Putting 8 copies of a card that has a singleton requirement seems like a bad idea..

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I'd like to think that the lower winrate of quest shaman and quest druid is due to the large amount of experimentation, and that as time goes on, the better builds will win out and they will both end up with higher winrates.  I'm not so hopeful though, especially on quest druid.  Quest shaman shows more promise.

For quest druid:  At all ranks, it is 49.5% over the entire expansion.  Last 3 days it is at 48.7% and last 1 day it is at 47.5%.  So it seems that the quest druid is just worsening over time.  At upper ranks it is doing even worse.  From rank 5-legend, it is 47.1% over the whole expansion, 46.6% over past 3 days and 45.7% over the past day.  It's looking bleak for quest druid.  

For quest shaman:  At all ranks, it is 49% over the entire expansion.  Past 3 days, it is also 49%.  Past 1 day, it is up to 49.5%.  It's been improving slightly, so there might be some promise here.  At upper ranks, it is 48.2% over the whole expansion.  Past 3 days, it is at 48.3%.  Past 1 day it is at 48.6%.  So we've seen some improvement, though it's still fairly negative.

Quest shaman I'd say is also the deck that has the most possibilities for different builds.  You can go all the way from a fast aggro version meant to burn down the opponent immediately, all the way up to a fatigue style control deck.  So there's a lot more possibilities and variance in the builds, as well as a lot more room to find the perfect formula that will have the best chances of winning in the current meta.

Quest druid on the other hand is far more straight forward in its build.  The number of different choose one cards are rather limited, so the different ways you can actually build the deck are limited as well.  Druid doesn't have the tools to be much of a control deck without single target removals or any serious board clears, nor can the quest be aggro with how it forces you to skip using your mana.  It will always be either a midrange value deck or some sort of crazy combo deck with Elise.

So based on the info we have available, I'd assume that when everything is finished, quest shaman will end up as a pretty solid T2 deck list while quest druid will be little more than a tier 3 deck used in certain competitive circumstances where you can ban bad matchups.  Even then though, there may be better options.

These statistics are really interesting. I'm guessing they're from hsreplay. Are they premium only?

 

Some great insights overall. I guess I thought quest shaman would be more straightforward than it is. Throwing in all the lackey synergies + good lategame value cards such as Swampqueen Hagatha and Shudderwock mixed with some boardclear isn't enough to have the deck reach 50% just yet apparently.

Will be interesting to see how the quests further develop, and what vS' thoughts are coming thursday.

Yeah, they're from hsreplay.  Premium lets you view a lot more things than you get to see for free.  It's pretty cheap, provides some interesting statistics to look at (being able to see deck popularity at each rank is pretty useful too), and I like being able to support the info that hsreplay puts out.

I've been trying a quest shaman that's basically a control shaman list.  Earthquake is a really nice AOE in a lot of instances and plague of murlocs does give us a way of dealing with early giants.  I'm just not sure if the quest actually makes sense in the deck; it might be better to just drop the quest and lackey stuff in favor of more removal like hex or lightning bolt.

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Hard to pick, but I'll go with Flame Ward for opening up so many options for Secret mage.

And being so hard to play around to

It's not hard to play around.  People just straight up don't play around it.  We've never had a mage secret that AOEs the board so they don't think of it.  It's the same deal with pressure plate

You may be right on this one, we may all just need a bit of training to make it as predictable as any other secret. I was saying hard to play around as in, usually, you would test the water deploying a cheap minion 1st, then a cheap spell, and so on until you are confident you can make your move. We will get better at it, or maybe just I need to get used to it

I think the main reason people play hard into Flame Ward is that people are just trained to check for Vaporize first by hitting with a small minion and Flame Ward is kinda checked the opposite way.

Missing a bit of damage by checking for the wrong secret first is marginal (and arguably not even a missplay if it's randomly generated).  I'm talking about players going face after playing out their minions for the turn and damaging/losing their minions.  Even when I was stuck at rank 1 for a day, I was facing plenty of players doing this.  Other times I see people play their minions, drag an arrow to my face before remembering the secret exists and deciding to not attack

Your dedication to Reno Mage is inspiring! I look forward to adapting this deck with the cards from Saviors of Uldum.

Zephrys the Great was a day one craft for me, right after I opened all my packs.  He's absolutely amazing when his battlecry is active.  I later crafted Siamat when I wanted to build a Highlander Mage list.  He's done well in a few situations for me, but ultimately may be either more of a "win more" card, or just a way to clear two minions with Rush+Windfury and hope you get some sort of body left behind.  I really feel he's best when you can go Divine Shield+Windfury and be largely uncontested until your next turn.  But again, you're ahead on board already in that scenario so it's more of a "win more" card.  I don't regret the craft on Siamat, but I also had my free golden Octosari (aka: My free "Choose Your Own Legendary" that came with the pre-order), so I didn't technically have to spend additional dust on him.

Playing a random casual game in wild. I'm going up against a Druid. Turn 5 I coin out Skulking Geist and hit both of his Earthen Scales , both Naturalize cards and his Floop's Glorious Gloop, get fooked armor Druid! 

And yes he conceded. Oooooh it felt so good. 

Diseased Vulture for all you aggro fans out there. if it comboed on the turn u play it its great if it survives 1 turn u probably win the game. insane

I'm adding Plague of Wrath to my favorites because of the animation. Best one in the game by far 

Ladder is SO fucked up at the moment. I can't even get wins at rank 5 if I'm not extremely lucky with draws and RNG in general. And I'm not playing crappy decks.

Once you play a fun deck against either Mage or Warrior you know you'll end up raped. But yeah, fun: who would ask such an unreasonable thing in the first week of a new expansion?

Oh well, time to wait for another Developer Insight to read that they have to collect more data in order to understand that there's something wrong in the game right now.

This deck is really good and I love it.

Just some questions:

Is Sandbinder necessary? If you have Zephrys then draw it then it’s kinda useless. If you keep it in, what could I replace it for a budget?

Also, what can i replace Flark with?

thanks

After playing a bunch of matches, I'm thinking of replacing Vulpera Scoundrel with Storm Chaser. Too many times I would have had lethal if I had just drawn a Bloodlust, but they are both stuck at the bottom of my deck. Vulpera was never useful in any of my matches, and gave me really bad choices, and mystery choice was always really bad too. Storm Chaser I feel would be a more consistent option compared to praying to RNGesus. Just my two cents, take it or leave it. I'll test it out and let you know how it goes. 

Ok Blizzard, when will you get it through your thick skulls that it is long past time for fucking Dr. Boom, Mad Genius to get nerfed?

Awesome, thanks!

Pretty interesting deck! The Crowd Roasters seem pretty out of place but the rest seems good.

This looks like a cool deck, I'm missing some of the key legendaries but I'm save this and maybe craft what I need when I have enough dust

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In theory you could open a channel in advance and it will start playing when the broadcast starts. In practice, Twitch isn't all that reliable and playback can hang when switching video (broadcast start or from/to commercials). I don't know if that matters for pack drops though: it would depend on whether you're actually disconnected from the channel or only from the video feed.

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I wasn't able to watch the last time they had an event like this, so I used the strategy you suggest.  I ended up only getting one of the two packs.  YMMV, but it's probably still worth trying.

Thanks! I'll try it, I hope it works! ;-)

First of all, thanks for the kind words. But I think you have mistaken my deck. I didn't create the highlander one, Superkowboj1 did it and they deserve all the credit for it.

Still, I wish you have fun while playing it. Regarding Barista Lynchen, I can't say how useful she would be in that deck. Superkowboj1 might run a lot of battlecry minions, but most of them cost 3+ mana and you might not always have an easy time copying them. That's why I normally run Zola the Gorgon. Still, I would advise you to ask the aforementioned user, since they are the original creator of the highlander deck.

i got it as my golden card. ... And scrapped it. Made shaman quest. But well i play paladin so ...

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