I'm not trying to make this all about me or anything, but I made a custom expansion too. You seem like someone who would find it interesting. I have all 135 cards, a subset of special cards, and an explanation for a few of them as to how I decided on their effects, stats and cost.
Let me know what you think. I believe we can help each other with ideas and critiques.
Heroic lvl 5, had a great run went fairly easy to khadghar. 1 turn from me having lethal he otk's me ... From max health (70) well played Blizzard, well played indeed...
Don't worry about it, it is literally just a game and (unless you're one of the top 16 players in the world) that arbitrary number next to your name means nothing at all. Once you realise and believe these things, you'll be free to play the game without anxiety or stress.
I used to get super stressed about this shit, and in some way imagined it was important, until one day one of my dogs was trying to get my attention and I turned and said, 'will you fuck off.' At that point I knew I had to get myself in check. Nowadays I'll walk away from/concede Ranked games if dinner is ready or whatever. It doesn't matter.
So today I was doing the random deckbuilding challenge and I ended up landing on Exotic Mountseller. While yes, I ended up building a deck that included two copies of her, I never really felt like the card did anything too useful in it.
Dusting non-duplicates is generally not worth it in the long run, especially with legendaries where you're just opening yourself up to getting that same unwanted legend back. But if you're going to dust something, it's usually not hard to tell what is a "crap epic", EG a card that's shitty, but too complex to have as a common or rare card. Gurubashi Offering-tier, if you will.
Tony you have reached an elevated state of Hearthstonery. I only like taking damage when I have the lethal in hand for next turn, or when they hit face while they should have eliminated this minion. I find it impossible to not feel anything when losing. Some losses are worse than others of course. On the other hand, when I win too easily with a deck (I recently won a couple of games very smoothly with some tempo/aggro mage variant) I get bored :)
I am flattered you consider it an elevated state! You could be right. Since I got in this mode I have been taking more risks in my decision making. I'm not sure how long this will last. Maybe it can last forever. I'd feel lucky. Like I said, I think taking more risks is helping me out
It actually does. Many of the major mistakes players make in hearthstone involve prioritizing what 'feels' better than what gives them the better chance. For example, many players, when faced with a choice of defending an attack that will kill them or taking a chance that may win the game, will opt to defend: 100% to succeed feels better than, say, a 20% chance to succeed. A pro though will ask "If I defend, how do I actually WIN afterwards." and realize that defending at that time will lead to just slowly losing as you never gain the advantage later on. Thus they will take the 20% chance over the slower loss and win 1 out of 5 games instead of losing every time.
That's called "playing to win vs playing not to lose" It's something you can only do if you are comfortable with losing, even though it actually leaves you winning more often.
It also lets you actually SEE your chances instead of FEEL them, which is important because we're..bad at feeling our chances. For example, studies have shown that losing $10 feels as bad as winning $20 feels good. Which means even though it's a good idea to take a coin flip chance between winning $20 and losing $15 your brain will see it as a bad deal. It's also why you can easily ignore the 10 wins you got in a row but get pissed over 3 losses.
(I know I felt that when I ran a deck tracker on some of my decks, lost a few with a particular deck, went to delete it out of frustration, and found I had a 10-3 win rate with it and just forgot about the earlier wins)
Just about everything from the mulligan to the deck choice to individual plays change once you can look at it logically rather than focus on feeling. That's not to say that feelings are bad. It's fine to be happy or angry at things. The question is just whether they are simply guiding you or if they've taken over. As I've had it put: your feelings should be in the car with you, but should not be the driver.
Playing Rogue only, since Old Gods. Don't like any other classes. Finishing with Leeroy is the only funny thing in this game (also enjoyed Mill rogue alot). Honesty, I think that Rogue is the only class with unique and interesting mechanics.
Wrote a long post but if you just want the highlights!
OMG LONG POST TL:DR SUMMARY!
-You can't get duplicate Legendaries. All other rarities will duplicate.
- Focus on deck design, not so much tier list. Find a deck you want to make. Make sure it's one you WANT to make and can make with just a few craftings, make sure you NEED those cards in that deck, then craft THOSE. Even Zilliax would be worthless if the decks you WANT to play don't really need him.
- Focus the priority NOT on class but on playstyle, and prioritize cards you wouldn't want to play even if it becomes good or gets buffed. Also aim for ones that are about to go away and try not to craft cards that are also about to go away unless you HAVE to. Classes change, cards change, but if you hate aggro, you'll probably always hate aggro.
- The less dusting and crafting you do to get what you need, the better. A deck that requires 1 legendary that makes you happy is MUCH better than one that requires 3.
If you want to know the meaning behind all that, read below.
Since Blizzard has decided to start buffing cards, it has become much more risky to dust clearly bad legendaries and epics. The most safe solution is to target a couple of classes that you dislike as general playstyle and use them has your "dust deposit", disenchanting only cards from them.
This is the best advice for a budget player. Choose classes you hate playing, and just plan to never ever play them. Disenchant all their stuff (except maybe legendaries, so you don't open those legendaries again later).
That's a really interesting point!
I thought it was random irrespective of what you already had? Are you less likely to get repeats?
I got 2x Magic Carpet in one pack a couple of days ago.
Legendaries can't duplicate. It will always give you one you don't have. The others ignore what you have.
Meanwhile I would highly advise NOT dusting entire classes. That's because as the sets change so do the playstyles of each class. Chances are you aren't really THAT devoted to the image of that particular hero and are instead in love with the playstyle they present and if you find that the deck you most want to play involves a class who've you've dusted down you're stuck. I know I hated Rogue back when it was a fully combo styled class. However, last year they've gone far more Tempo and reliant on battlecries or stealing mechanics, Thankfully I still had all of the cards I had collected so I could just craft the few things I needed to make those decks.
So don't aim on nuking the entire class. Instead aim for playstyles.
For example take Oblivitron. That card is meant for mech hunter decks. The idea is to be VERY sticky and annoying with mechs that keep summoning mechs that summon other mechs that combine with other mechs that summon mechs and..you get the point.
That card really isn't being used in hunter decks, not even the mech ones. But that can change either due to new sets, no strategies, or the card being buffed so that's not too reliable. HOWEVER!
1. The card has only 8 months to live, so even if it becomes hyper useful, you'll only have a few months to worry about it before it goes away from Standard. A VERY powerful tool budget players have is the "ignore it and let it go away" ability. I've gone through a lot of metas where That One Deck everyone played was NOT the one I made, so I stayed low, made the decks I wanted, and let rotation wipe the deck away. Or nerfs. That Druid nerf swarm in Rumble came at a great time for me.
2. The most important, do you even WANT to play a deck like what I posted? Does a hunter mech deck with sticky tempo cards interest you, or would you rather have something faster, like an aggro deck, or slower like a deck that throws out big boys? Or perhaps you like mechs but you're more interested in what Paladin can do? Thus even if hte deck becomes #1 in the ladder and Oblivitron is used in every deck in the world you would be bored out of your mind to play it.
THAT is the ultimate dust candidate. A card you don't WANT to use no matter how good or bad it is.
You can look at some of your other cards the same way. Carpet is a good card, but he's used for zoo styled decks; decks that throw lots of cheap stuff on the board. Is that even something you want to try out? If so then keep carpet. If not, then maybe you don't really need them?
Whatever you dust, do it VERY sparingly though. You hurt your collection every time you dust and craft something: effectively losing 3 cards for every 1 card you make. I'm not saying to NEVER dust but keep that in mind.
Myself I wouldn't craft legendaries based on a tier list ALONE. Instead I would look at decks I really REALLY want to make and look at what's in there. After all, Zilliax is worthless if the decks you want him for also require 3-5 other cards you can't craft, especially since he'll be gone next year. He's not going to make that Murloc Mage deck you use good enough either.
I'll put it another way, Zilliax won't let you make a Conjure's Calling mage if you don't have Conjure's Calling. Conjure's Calling mage, though, can live without Zilliax.
Make SURE you have good deck that you can almost craft. Look for others who have run decks like that and make sure it's something you find fun, or powerful, or whatever you are looking for in a deck. Also make sure there's not a version that DOESN'T use the card. I wanted to make a Spell Hunter deck last year and wondered if I needed Rhok'delar. I then found Firebat using the card and, when asked, said that it was the weakest part of the deck and not really needed. Thus I ended up making a spell hunter deck without it and did well with it.
Also make sure about that 'almost craft' as well. Last year I saw Shudderwock Shaman, loved it, crafted Shudderwock in a flash..then realized it needed 3 other legendaries I didn't have. Then I watched a lot of Shudderwock games and realized the deck wasn't interesting to me and Shudder really didn't have much of a use beyond it, so yeah.. COMPLETELY wasted 1600 dust.
Since Blizzard has decided to start buffing cards, it has become much more risky to dust clearly bad legendaries and epics. The most safe solution is to target a couple of classes that you dislike as general playstyle and use them has your "dust deposit", disenchanting only cards from them.
This is the best advice for a budget player. Choose classes you hate playing, and just plan to never ever play them. Disenchant all their stuff (except maybe legendaries, so you don't open those legendaries again later).
That's a really interesting point!
I thought it was random irrespective of what you already had? Are you less likely to get repeats?
I got 2x Magic Carpet in one pack a couple of days ago.
So, the best counter for Zilliax is to stop playing Standard for 8 months? That's so easy! /s
:D
I mean, that is the cheapest option...
I think if I can get a strong enough deck and skills to get rank 15 or better, then I'll start to make enough dust on a monthly basis to be self-sustainable. I don't have aspirations to attend the grand masters event, or get 20,000 twitch followers :) Just a bit of fun.
Since Blizzard has decided to start buffing cards, it has become much more risky to dust clearly bad legendaries and epics. The most safe solution is to target a couple of classes that you dislike as general playstyle and use them has your "dust deposit", disenchanting only cards from them.
This is the best advice for a budget player. Choose classes you hate playing, and just plan to never ever play them. Disenchant all their stuff (except maybe legendaries, so you don't open those legendaries again later).
I wish there were a poll in this thread, so that we could see which alternative hero skin ends up being the community's beloved pick.
If I have to be honest with you, I would welcome ALL of them. I don't see why there should be a single alternative hero being implemented in the game, because this would sadden the majority of players, who don't play that specific class. But anyway, if I have to choose my own favourites, I would go with Squeamlish (she's the cutest one), Ol' Barkeye (I love his voice lines) and Tekahn (I'm a warlock fan and I don't have other skins for that class).
Let’s Make An Expansion!
Dw about it. I looked at all the cards. Looks like they are great! I love mimikyu so it’s great feature that it is a leg
Use for Exotic Mountseller?
I strived to stay away from mage simply because of how much better Vex Crow is at doing what she does there.
Let’s Make An Expansion!
I do! I just cannot post currently as I use iPad mostly so when I can I will post them
Use for Exotic Mountseller?
Some sort of cyclone mage variant, maybe? Span a bunch of cheap spells and fill your board.
Group Therapy! Need to blow off some steam? Mega salty? Here's the place!
Heroic lvl 5, had a great run went fairly easy to khadghar. 1 turn from me having lethal he otk's me ... From max health (70) well played Blizzard, well played indeed...
How to best react when your opponent has the nuts
Don't worry about it, it is literally just a game and (unless you're one of the top 16 players in the world) that arbitrary number next to your name means nothing at all. Once you realise and believe these things, you'll be free to play the game without anxiety or stress.
I used to get super stressed about this shit, and in some way imagined it was important, until one day one of my dogs was trying to get my attention and I turned and said, 'will you fuck off.' At that point I knew I had to get myself in check. Nowadays I'll walk away from/concede Ranked games if dinner is ready or whatever. It doesn't matter.
Group Therapy! Need to blow off some steam? Mega salty? Here's the place!
Where ever you go i will follow you my lord Kaladin
Use for Exotic Mountseller?
So today I was doing the random deckbuilding challenge and I ended up landing on Exotic Mountseller. While yes, I ended up building a deck that included two copies of her, I never really felt like the card did anything too useful in it.
Has anyone found her a home anywhere?
Playing on a budget: Which cards to disenchant?
Dusting non-duplicates is generally not worth it in the long run, especially with legendaries where you're just opening yourself up to getting that same unwanted legend back. But if you're going to dust something, it's usually not hard to tell what is a "crap epic", EG a card that's shitty, but too complex to have as a common or rare card. Gurubashi Offering-tier, if you will.
How to best react when your opponent has the nuts
It actually does. Many of the major mistakes players make in hearthstone involve prioritizing what 'feels' better than what gives them the better chance. For example, many players, when faced with a choice of defending an attack that will kill them or taking a chance that may win the game, will opt to defend: 100% to succeed feels better than, say, a 20% chance to succeed. A pro though will ask "If I defend, how do I actually WIN afterwards." and realize that defending at that time will lead to just slowly losing as you never gain the advantage later on. Thus they will take the 20% chance over the slower loss and win 1 out of 5 games instead of losing every time.
That's called "playing to win vs playing not to lose" It's something you can only do if you are comfortable with losing, even though it actually leaves you winning more often.
It also lets you actually SEE your chances instead of FEEL them, which is important because we're..bad at feeling our chances. For example, studies have shown that losing $10 feels as bad as winning $20 feels good. Which means even though it's a good idea to take a coin flip chance between winning $20 and losing $15 your brain will see it as a bad deal. It's also why you can easily ignore the 10 wins you got in a row but get pissed over 3 losses.
(I know I felt that when I ran a deck tracker on some of my decks, lost a few with a particular deck, went to delete it out of frustration, and found I had a 10-3 win rate with it and just forgot about the earlier wins)
Just about everything from the mulligan to the deck choice to individual plays change once you can look at it logically rather than focus on feeling. That's not to say that feelings are bad. It's fine to be happy or angry at things. The question is just whether they are simply guiding you or if they've taken over. As I've had it put: your feelings should be in the car with you, but should not be the driver.
Any Other Single Class Players?
Playing Rogue only, since Old Gods. Don't like any other classes. Finishing with Leeroy is the only funny thing in this game (also enjoyed Mill rogue alot). Honesty, I think that Rogue is the only class with unique and interesting mechanics.
At what turn is the crazy stuff allowed to start
Turn 2, 10/10 Edvin.
Playing on a budget: Which cards to disenchant?
Wrote a long post but if you just want the highlights!
OMG LONG POST TL:DR SUMMARY!
-You can't get duplicate Legendaries. All other rarities will duplicate.
- Focus on deck design, not so much tier list. Find a deck you want to make. Make sure it's one you WANT to make and can make with just a few craftings, make sure you NEED those cards in that deck, then craft THOSE. Even Zilliax would be worthless if the decks you WANT to play don't really need him.
- Focus the priority NOT on class but on playstyle, and prioritize cards you wouldn't want to play even if it becomes good or gets buffed. Also aim for ones that are about to go away and try not to craft cards that are also about to go away unless you HAVE to. Classes change, cards change, but if you hate aggro, you'll probably always hate aggro.
- The less dusting and crafting you do to get what you need, the better. A deck that requires 1 legendary that makes you happy is MUCH better than one that requires 3.
If you want to know the meaning behind all that, read below.
Legendaries can't duplicate. It will always give you one you don't have. The others ignore what you have.
Meanwhile I would highly advise NOT dusting entire classes. That's because as the sets change so do the playstyles of each class. Chances are you aren't really THAT devoted to the image of that particular hero and are instead in love with the playstyle they present and if you find that the deck you most want to play involves a class who've you've dusted down you're stuck. I know I hated Rogue back when it was a fully combo styled class. However, last year they've gone far more Tempo and reliant on battlecries or stealing mechanics, Thankfully I still had all of the cards I had collected so I could just craft the few things I needed to make those decks.
So don't aim on nuking the entire class. Instead aim for playstyles.
For example take Oblivitron. That card is meant for mech hunter decks. The idea is to be VERY sticky and annoying with mechs that keep summoning mechs that summon other mechs that combine with other mechs that summon mechs and..you get the point.
That card really isn't being used in hunter decks, not even the mech ones. But that can change either due to new sets, no strategies, or the card being buffed so that's not too reliable. HOWEVER!
1. The card has only 8 months to live, so even if it becomes hyper useful, you'll only have a few months to worry about it before it goes away from Standard. A VERY powerful tool budget players have is the "ignore it and let it go away" ability. I've gone through a lot of metas where That One Deck everyone played was NOT the one I made, so I stayed low, made the decks I wanted, and let rotation wipe the deck away. Or nerfs. That Druid nerf swarm in Rumble came at a great time for me.
2. The most important, do you even WANT to play a deck like what I posted? Does a hunter mech deck with sticky tempo cards interest you, or would you rather have something faster, like an aggro deck, or slower like a deck that throws out big boys? Or perhaps you like mechs but you're more interested in what Paladin can do? Thus even if hte deck becomes #1 in the ladder and Oblivitron is used in every deck in the world you would be bored out of your mind to play it.
THAT is the ultimate dust candidate. A card you don't WANT to use no matter how good or bad it is.
You can look at some of your other cards the same way. Carpet is a good card, but he's used for zoo styled decks; decks that throw lots of cheap stuff on the board. Is that even something you want to try out? If so then keep carpet. If not, then maybe you don't really need them?
Whatever you dust, do it VERY sparingly though. You hurt your collection every time you dust and craft something: effectively losing 3 cards for every 1 card you make. I'm not saying to NEVER dust but keep that in mind.
Myself I wouldn't craft legendaries based on a tier list ALONE. Instead I would look at decks I really REALLY want to make and look at what's in there. After all, Zilliax is worthless if the decks you want him for also require 3-5 other cards you can't craft, especially since he'll be gone next year. He's not going to make that Murloc Mage deck you use good enough either.
I'll put it another way, Zilliax won't let you make a Conjure's Calling mage if you don't have Conjure's Calling. Conjure's Calling mage, though, can live without Zilliax.
Make SURE you have good deck that you can almost craft. Look for others who have run decks like that and make sure it's something you find fun, or powerful, or whatever you are looking for in a deck. Also make sure there's not a version that DOESN'T use the card. I wanted to make a Spell Hunter deck last year and wondered if I needed Rhok'delar. I then found Firebat using the card and, when asked, said that it was the weakest part of the deck and not really needed. Thus I ended up making a spell hunter deck without it and did well with it.
Also make sure about that 'almost craft' as well. Last year I saw Shudderwock Shaman, loved it, crafted Shudderwock in a flash..then realized it needed 3 other legendaries I didn't have. Then I watched a lot of Shudderwock games and realized the deck wasn't interesting to me and Shudder really didn't have much of a use beyond it, so yeah.. COMPLETELY wasted 1600 dust.
Group Therapy! Need to blow off some steam? Mega salty? Here's the place!
There are no such matches in Hearthstone. You have to become an Acolyte of Pain in order to play this game for a long time.
Here's some art, make a card! [Legacy Game]
Low impact card that adds a bit of value.
Must be a spell
[Game] Name another card that has the same...
Burgle
Also adds cards to your hand
Quest Trading - Play A Friend!
scr26#1592
NA
Trade only, you go first
Here's some art, make a card! [Legacy Game]
Next Art:
Restrictions:
Must be a minion.
It must not change the board state much. (meaning, it shouldn't add, or remove to much stats from either side of the board)
[Game] Name another card that has the same...
Ysera doesn't have charge but okay.
Nefarian
adds cards to your hand
Playing on a budget: Which cards to disenchant?
That's a really interesting point!
I thought it was random irrespective of what you already had? Are you less likely to get repeats?
I got 2x Magic Carpet in one pack a couple of days ago.
Playing on a budget: Which cards to disenchant?
:D
I mean, that is the cheapest option...
I think if I can get a strong enough deck and skills to get rank 15 or better, then I'll start to make enough dust on a monthly basis to be self-sustainable. I don't have aspirations to attend the grand masters event, or get 20,000 twitch followers :) Just a bit of fun.
Playing on a budget: Which cards to disenchant?
TBH I did a bit of Googling, found some older posts that didn't list my cards. Do you have a specific URL in mind?
These are my legendaries:
Oblivitron
Khadgar
Stargazer Luna
Kalecgos
Commander Rhyssa
Tak Nozwhisker
Fel Lord Betrug
Lord Jaraxxus
Akali, the Rhino
Zayle, Shadow Cloak
SN1P-SN4P
Archmage Vargoth
Harrison Jones
Alexstrasza
Onyxia
Quest Trading - Play A Friend!
Battletag: Krele#1213
Region: NA
Trade only?: Yes, you go first
done
Playing on a budget: Which cards to disenchant?
This is the best advice for a budget player. Choose classes you hate playing, and just plan to never ever play them. Disenchant all their stuff (except maybe legendaries, so you don't open those legendaries again later).
which dalaran heist hero would you want as a skin?
I wish there were a poll in this thread, so that we could see which alternative hero skin ends up being the community's beloved pick.
If I have to be honest with you, I would welcome ALL of them. I don't see why there should be a single alternative hero being implemented in the game, because this would sadden the majority of players, who don't play that specific class. But anyway, if I have to choose my own favourites, I would go with Squeamlish (she's the cutest one), Ol' Barkeye (I love his voice lines) and Tekahn (I'm a warlock fan and I don't have other skins for that class).