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Sure, it's a decent lategame play and you can use it early to cheat out some stuff, but overall the effects seems to have anti synergy. One wants you to play big demons, the other wants small.
We don't even really have many big demons that would make this worth it, just the Nightshade Matrons and maybe an odd Siegebreaker won't be enough.
At best I couuld see it with some Aranasi Broodmothers and Betrug in Plot twist lock, but that's a meme deck anyways.
BrandonOld God Fanatic 13502416 PostsJoined 05/29/2019
Posted 3 years, 6 months ago
Bloodreaver Gul'dan has been roborn. This will definatly see play in wild. Cubelock will love it. In standard i'm curious at best, it will be a nice reload tho.
RNG is only fun as long as there is a 50/50 chance of getting something really good or trash level of bad. If RNG always results in something good, then it's not fun.
Kanrethad Prime is very powerful, and if you can get multiple copies off, its essentially a mini galakrond with a good stated body. Even kanrethad himself only costs 2 and has vanilla stats.
I beg to differ. For one, it is a cheap legendary with a good effect that enables future powerplays, then it is also a prime generator that will generate demons on board. I guess what I meant to say is I'm hoping to unpack a golden copy of this bad boy
Struggle with Heroic Galakrond's Awakening? I got your back :
This legendary is rather disappointing in my opinion. Basically a Sorcerer's Apprentice for demons. Not sure for which archetype this minion was designed for.
It's obviously a bad card for Galakrond decks, since Kanrethad Prime will mostly summon 1/1.
In Zoo decks, this card can be used to cheat out many cheap demons in one turn, but the resurrect effect of Kanrethad Prime will be rather weak.
In a deck that contains a lot of big demons, the cost reduction of Kanrethad Ebonlocke will be negligible, but Kanrethad Prime can create a strong power turn.
Another great Prime card - you really need to build your deck (or at least the demons inside it) around that Prime, if you want a powerful swing turn in the late game. If you are just a Zoo and want a board refill - you can do that as well - nothing wrong with that.
And the discount of your demons is small, but can enable some shenanigans, so a + in my book as well.
Now, when I think about it - I understand why they removed Spellbreaker from Standard - Silence will take a lot of the fun from those Prime cards away.
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EU Legend: S52 (ZooHeal Lock); S76 (Highlander Hunter);
Kanrethad Ebonlocke is great for Turn-2 swing in Zoolock, with cheap demons at hand (up to 5-6 minions down for 2-mana), with room to grow more and more reliable the more 1-cost efficient Demons they release, especially in Wild. If only we had a Crystology for Warlocks...
Kanrethad Prime is excellent to generate great swing turns in later game, especially for a Midrange Demonlock.
However, for Wild purposes Kanrethad Prime is battlecry, and it might be a problem in Cubelock, especially with Skull of the Man'ari: trying to get it to work without impairing your summons might be too clunky, especially in later turns.
So I've been thinking about it and this might actually be pretty good In Plot twist Warlock.
YOu run Broodmother, Betrug and the new Enhanced Dreadlord as your demons, then sruvive until the Betrug turnand use it with Plot Twist to get out a bunch of stuff to stabilize as well as Kanrethad (the base form) so you get to shuffle at least two Primes in the deck, which will act as your lategame powerplays and will usually res something good (Betrug, taunts or lifesteal demons).
Unfortunately there isn't any way to shuffle more Primes
So I've been thinking about it and this might actually be pretty good In Plot twist Warlock.
YOu run Broodmother, Betrug and the new Enhanced Dreadlord as your demons, then sruvive until the Betrug turnand use it with Plot Twist to get out a bunch of stuff to stabilize as well as Kanrethad (the base form) so you get to shuffle at least two Primes in the deck, which will act as your lategame powerplays and will usually res something good (Betrug, taunts or lifesteal demons).
Unfortunately there isn't any way to shuffle more Primes
Why shuffle more primes when you can get it off Expired Merchant instead? if you keep the coin or generated it, you can easily just coin Mortal Coil and play the prime with another prime in hand.
This can actually help control warlock get some value instead of using Dragonqueen Alexstrasza.
So I've been thinking about it and this might actually be pretty good In Plot twist Warlock.
YOu run Broodmother, Betrug and the new Enhanced Dreadlord as your demons, then sruvive until the Betrug turnand use it with Plot Twist to get out a bunch of stuff to stabilize as well as Kanrethad (the base form) so you get to shuffle at least two Primes in the deck, which will act as your lategame powerplays and will usually res something good (Betrug, taunts or lifesteal demons).
Unfortunately there isn't any way to shuffle more Primes
Why shuffle more primes when you can get it off Expired Merchant instead? if you keep the coin or generated it, you can easily just coin Mortal Coil and play the prime with another prime in hand.
This can actually help control warlock get some value instead of using Dragonqueen Alexstrasza.
This card require a proper deck to work since you don't want rez some 2 mana demon. Anyway the effect is strong, but can warlock build a big demon deck right now ?
ErodosCrossroads Historian 9451019 PostsJoined 05/29/2019
Posted 3 years, 5 months ago
Pretty strong, but the two halves have anti-synergy with each other. The first half wants you to play small demons, while the second half wants you to play big ones.
So I've been thinking about it and this might actually be pretty good In Plot twist Warlock.
YOu run Broodmother, Betrug and the new Enhanced Dreadlord as your demons, then sruvive until the Betrug turnand use it with Plot Twist to get out a bunch of stuff to stabilize as well as Kanrethad (the base form) so you get to shuffle at least two Primes in the deck, which will act as your lategame powerplays and will usually res something good (Betrug, taunts or lifesteal demons).
Unfortunately there isn't any way to shuffle more Primes
In Wild there are a number of things to do... You could have Baron Rivendare, Spiritsinger Umbra, and even Augmented Elekk. So there are a number of way to put more Primes into your deck. The question really is, do you want to build a deck based around it?
Standard needs more Big Demons to really justify running him; what are you planning to revive otherwise, a Flame Imp? In Wild, though, I can definitely see a Big Demonlock happening with Bloodreaver Gul'dan as another way to revive all the threats.
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Well, that's kinda boring.
Sure, it's a decent lategame play and you can use it early to cheat out some stuff, but overall the effects seems to have anti synergy. One wants you to play big demons, the other wants small.
We don't even really have many big demons that would make this worth it, just the Nightshade Matrons and maybe an odd Siegebreaker won't be enough.
At best I couuld see it with some Aranasi Broodmothers and Betrug in Plot twist lock, but that's a meme deck anyways.
I tried having fun once.
It was awful.
Bloodreaver Gul'dan has been roborn. This will definatly see play in wild. Cubelock will love it. In standard i'm curious at best, it will be a nice reload tho.
RNG is only fun as long as there is a 50/50 chance of getting something really good or trash level of bad. If RNG always results in something good, then it's not fun.
Disappointingly Boring
Kanrethad Prime is very powerful, and if you can get multiple copies off, its essentially a mini galakrond with a good stated body. Even kanrethad himself only costs 2 and has vanilla stats.
Dont underestimate the card.
I beg to differ. For one, it is a cheap legendary with a good effect that enables future powerplays, then it is also a prime generator that will generate demons on board. I guess what I meant to say is I'm hoping to unpack a golden copy of this bad boy
Struggle with Heroic Galakrond's Awakening? I got your back :
This legendary is rather disappointing in my opinion. Basically a Sorcerer's Apprentice for demons. Not sure for which archetype this minion was designed for.
It's obviously a bad card for Galakrond decks, since Kanrethad Prime will mostly summon 1/1.
In Zoo decks, this card can be used to cheat out many cheap demons in one turn, but the resurrect effect of Kanrethad Prime will be rather weak.
In a deck that contains a lot of big demons, the cost reduction of Kanrethad Ebonlocke will be negligible, but Kanrethad Prime can create a strong power turn.
Another great Prime card - you really need to build your deck (or at least the demons inside it) around that Prime, if you want a powerful swing turn in the late game. If you are just a Zoo and want a board refill - you can do that as well - nothing wrong with that.
And the discount of your demons is small, but can enable some shenanigans, so a + in my book as well.
Now, when I think about it - I understand why they removed Spellbreaker from Standard - Silence will take a lot of the fun from those Prime cards away.
“If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas.” ― George Bernard Shaw
EU Legend: S52 (ZooHeal Lock); S76 (Highlander Hunter);
Kanrethad Ebonlocke is great for Turn-2 swing in Zoolock, with cheap demons at hand (up to 5-6 minions down for 2-mana), with room to grow more and more reliable the more 1-cost efficient Demons they release, especially in Wild. If only we had a Crystology for Warlocks...
Kanrethad Prime is excellent to generate great swing turns in later game, especially for a Midrange Demonlock.
However, for Wild purposes Kanrethad Prime is battlecry, and it might be a problem in Cubelock, especially with Skull of the Man'ari: trying to get it to work without impairing your summons might be too clunky, especially in later turns.
So I've been thinking about it and this might actually be pretty good In Plot twist Warlock.
YOu run Broodmother, Betrug and the new Enhanced Dreadlord as your demons, then sruvive until the Betrug turnand use it with Plot Twist to get out a bunch of stuff to stabilize as well as Kanrethad (the base form) so you get to shuffle at least two Primes in the deck, which will act as your lategame powerplays and will usually res something good (Betrug, taunts or lifesteal demons).
Unfortunately there isn't any way to shuffle more Primes
I tried having fun once.
It was awful.
Why shuffle more primes when you can get it off Expired Merchant instead? if you keep the coin or generated it, you can easily just coin Mortal Coil and play the prime with another prime in hand.
This can actually help control warlock get some value instead of using Dragonqueen Alexstrasza.
I like Expired Merchant, but she makes running stuff like Alexstrasza or Enhanced Dreadlord much less reliable.
Maybe she's useful as a 1-of for that purpose, but I don't really think that's worth it.
I tried having fun once.
It was awful.
Very powerful, can make a pretty insne turn 2 in zoo with flame imps and void walkers.
pretty nice demon lock card it makes your imps free at turn 2 which can be a relatively scary turn 2.
This card require a proper deck to work since you don't want rez some 2 mana demon. Anyway the effect is strong, but can warlock build a big demon deck right now ?
Pretty strong, but the two halves have anti-synergy with each other. The first half wants you to play small demons, while the second half wants you to play big ones.
In Wild there are a number of things to do... You could have Baron Rivendare, Spiritsinger Umbra, and even Augmented Elekk. So there are a number of way to put more Primes into your deck. The question really is, do you want to build a deck based around it?
Standard needs more Big Demons to really justify running him; what are you planning to revive otherwise, a Flame Imp? In Wild, though, I can definitely see a Big Demonlock happening with Bloodreaver Gul'dan as another way to revive all the threats.