I was playing some non-combo Quest Rogue in wild for 4/4 lackeys and believe me you don't even need bounce with Bloodsail Flybooter and with lackeys anymore to complete the quest. If you are lucky enough, 2 copies of it will complete it for you and that's not that hard, i know that because i played a lot in wild.
In my opinion, it should be reverted because of Bluegill and Boar nerfs. I really think that the unnerf of The Caverns Below is fair enough with charge nerfs but i'm repeating again, you don't even need bounce to complete it with Bloodsail Flybooter now.
Just looking at the 1 drop section shurima makes one realise how much better these are: Dunekeeper: a 2/1 + a 1/1 ephemeral used eighter for nexus demage, extra death trigge, a free sac unit and an extra death trigger
I just recreated Leblanc with the revealed cards that how I wanted her to be.
I really don't know about her power level, I didn't think of any of the existing cards while I'm creating this. Just wanted to create an interesting version instead of a creepy aggro one.
I kept Leblanc's Mirror Image at 4 health because of the possible heal playarounds to fake the opponent. Level-up conditions/Stats/keywords might be overpowered or weak but can be tweaked. I just wanted to know that you're happy with the real LeBlanc or something like this which I showed above.
Oh and I forgot to write on the card but Level 2 Leblanc loses its Last Breath after she dies.
Edit: I have corrected level 2 state of her.
I am really so disappointed to see the real LeBlanc.
For Aegwynn, the Guardian, I don't agree that decksize will not let her to be good. All she need is minions that produce spells. Team 5 still wants Mage to be the class that generates random spells. At least Aegwynn says it. How effective will those random spells are another question tho. Especially if they produce no damage dealing spells.
She is one of my favourite champ in LoL and I won't even want to try her in LoR. SHAME !
Where is the all trickstery about her ?
I'm so angry at Riot, all of my favourite champs in LoL are crap in LoR. I know it is so early to say that she will be bad or good but she is not interesting to play neither.
They might even use Jandice Barov - like effect for her passive in LoL like; "When I die, Instead I am summoned again with 1 health and with my Mirror." And Mirror could have a text like "Your opponent can't see this text. I can't deal damage and whenever i take damage, i die." You simply level-up her for nothing. Because she won't survive for another 15+ damage most of the times and her requirement is "I saw" which is bad most of the times. She needs to be on board with her little hp.
Her blinks, Her Trickstery, All are gone for this Aggro crap. I had my hopes that some mage-like plays can be implemented to Noxus with LeBlanc. Now all is gone. They really want Noxus to be pure aggro region. That doesn't have to be. Red in Mtg isn't like that. Even Hunter has some cool mechanics in Hs.
I am really disappointed. I will keep my high hopes for Akali -the other favourite champion of me- for some interesting plays it seems and will wait to see when she will be released.
Black Rose Spy might be good, but delayed most of the times. You might be too late to play her most of times and for duping Champs, there are better options.
Thorn of the Rose is just a filler to give cheaper 5 attack to players that is interested in Reputation but doesn't have enough cards. Most worthless of these. Not even related with LeBlanc. Seems like "Leblanc also can stun your enemies like in LoL!" stuff that Riot wants to say.
The only interesting card here is Mimic to gain copies of fast and Slow spells that your opponent cast. Might be the best card of this reveal.
U should be able to dust ur golden dupes of basic cards but i can be wrong. Are basic rotating too?
Yes, some basics are rotating. Check the Core Set 2021 Guide page for which card isn't rotating so you can find out which one is.
Keep in mind that the Core cards and the Legacy cards are technically separate copies. So that means that even the Basic cards in the Core set are still considered to be rotating to Wild, since they are part of the Legacy set. You should be able to DE the golden Basic cards and still keep the regular copies if you want them for playing Wild. Since they mentioned golden Core cards will come from completing achievements, and because the Legacy cards are technically not tied to Core cards, I doubt having a Legacy card in golden will give you a Core card in golden. But I could be wrong!
And since everyone with Wild unlocked will automatically get all regular and golden Basic cards at rotation (info here, Introducing the Legacy Set section), that's 14,300 dust from just the golden Basic cards, which is 100 dust short of being able to craft 9 legendary cards.
Thanks for the link, but i have still some questions.
It says that Classic packs will continue to give classic cards, but the 2014 versions. For example, We can't open Brightwing from them. And my question is that new classic cards which is in core set 2021aren't collectible ? I mean, Won't None of the existing packs give Alexstrasza the Life-Binder for example ? If it is like that, What will happen in 2022 ? Can't we play those cards in wild if they don't decide to put them Core set 2022 ?
Damn Blizzard, When you made some changes, there are never enough infos !
And If anyone can say that what will happen the Classic Packs and will they offer Basic cards, I will be appreciated as well.
That is actually a very good question. They will technically become Wild packs, eh?:D To be honest, i think they will stay without change, they will still reward Classic cards and thats it. At best they might throw in Basic cards, but im not too sure about that.
what my thought is; if level progression of classes will give core set cards through level 10, i can think of that after level 10 they will continue to give basic + golden cards but can't be so sure of it as well.
I'm using emotes mostly for some reactions, greet and such. I mean, normal ways. Not spamming or anything.
When they never emote back, I know that they squelched at the first moment when we encountered. I consider this as a bm. Think that you re playing this game physically and as soon as you sit, your opponent seals their ears with something. Spamming might annoy everyone, I'm ok with that but you can squelch after bunch of emotes, You don't have to do it instantly whenever you encountered with a human-being.
I was so annoyed when Quest Druid was in the meta. They were there but they act like they are afk. I really hated that. In my opinion that was a BM as well.
Also, not accepting friend requests are bad manners in my opinion because I want to say something to my opponent after the games end. Sometimes it was about how they played well, sometimes I want to ask some questions about the game why they decide to do that and sometimes it was all about their nickname, and sometimes it was a different deck and i want to ask for codes but so less people accept it. I can understand that people thinks always the bad side of that; "They added me, They will be toxic about game/deck etc." but it is bad manners to not accept in my opinion. You don't really have to read intentions.
Other than that, Simple stuff like roping, spamming etc. But Roping after doing their move and spend all of their mana annoys me more than waiting to play until rope comes constantly.
With the exception of Fireball, none of those core spells have or will see inclusion into the current iteration of burn mage. And since I rate Imprisoned Phoenix higher than Aegwynn, that should more or less settle this debate.
Choosable quests might be even better in my opinion. I mean, The game can ask you whenever you open the game for the day first time like discover mechanic and choose between options of game modes, not especially the quests. It can be a random quest from chosen category like;
Opened the game;
A screen of choices appeared as "Arena, Duels, Battlegrounds, Casual/Ranked" I chose you, Casual/Ranked ! I obtained a new random quest related with Casual/Ranked He chose you, Battlegrounds ! He obtained a new random quest related with Battlegrounds !
Everyone is happy !
Oh, And there is some extra;
"I didn't like this quest, let's reroll" I obtained a new random quest related with Casual/Ranked again ! "He didn't like that quest, let's reroll" He obtained a new random quest related with Battlegrounds again !
They are canceling hundreds of cards that were supposed to be permanent…I'm just saying it's kind of stupid that these articles keep saying it's a boon to the wallets of veteran players when that is clearly not the case.
If I understand you right, you're suggesting that this is economically bad for veteran players because they've already spent a lot of money on their full Classic collection, which they were told would be evergreen in Hearthstone. If that's what you're arguing, then your argument is based on the sunk cost fallacy. Any money veteran players have spent on their Classic collection is gone, so at the point that you've collected a full collection of Classic cards, the only economic question left in the game is whether or not you're going to keep spending money on future expansions. To suggest otherwise is to assert that the sunk cost of having a full Classic set should weigh in on your present economic choices, which it plainly shouldn't.
So, if the Core Set enables you to make a meta deck with a higher percentage of "Core" cards (i.e. Evergreen cards today, Core soon) than before without costing you a cent, then you have fewer expansion cards you need to buy or craft to build your deck, and can therefore save money and in-game resources that you might have otherwise spent. This is why the Core set is economically positive for all players. The Tavern Brawl thing is an added (and long overdue) bonus on top of that, but it's not strictly necessary.
The other part of your argument that I think might merit some attention is this idea that Blizzard promised that these cards would be evergreen. No one ever bemoans the fact that expansion sets rotate (even though this same complaint could just as easily be lobbed at annual Standard rotations) because we expect those sets to rotate. Ultimately, though, I think the question you have to ask is "would knowing that this set would rotate five years after it became the evergreen Standard set have changed your behavior?" At some level, that's a personal question each player would have to answer for themselves, but I think there are two things worth noting about the question generally. First, in those five years you could have picked up 260 classic packs for free from Tavern Brawls. Second, buying into five years of the evergreen set would probably still yield a fair value when compared to a single year of an expansion set. It's hard for me to believe knowing the Classic set only had a five-year run ahead of it would have changed anything that anyone did.
So, to the extent that you feel this is unfair to veteran players, and that some refund is due for anyone who spent money on the Classic set because of this promise, I guess all I can say is "get over it." For any player who enjoyed their time playing Classic cards, I think it's disingenuous to suggest that they're owed something simply because those cards are rotating, and new players won't have to buy into the Classic set in the future. Some of the first cards I crafted were Sylvanas Windrunner and Ragnaros the Firelord because of how powerful they were, and they were among the first cards to be Hall-of-Famed. I didn't think Blizzard owed me anything because I had enjoyed all of the time I had spent playing those cards and gotten my money's worth out of them.
I really wonder that; Can you say those reasonings for a player who starts the game in january 2020 and buys great amount of Classic packs due to their evergreen guarantee? or crafted some classic legendaries with their very limited dust.
Just answer this question and then we will ok to agree that you will already enjoyed with what you bought well enough.
Veteran players who plays this game for 7 years may not even care for these core set changes just because they already enjoyed their product they bought but some players that started the game just bunch of weeks/months ago might have bought Classic packs just for they are evergreen. May be I don't deserve a compensation just because of that I already played with them for a lot of time but you can't say those comperatively new players who just bought great amount of classic packs deserve some compensation for reality.
If you sell products under the name of "evergreen" until the changes happen, even you make your users apply some ridiculous "terms of use" and "Blizzard can do any changes in any time without asking permission" rubbish, Even if it is not their right to ask legally just because they apply TOU ,You should give some compensation to those people ethically.
Don't get me wrong, I'm like you and I honestly think that I have already enjoyed what I bought in 7 years but it is the reality that some people bought some classic packs due to its evergreen statement not long ago. I have an acquaintance from web who did that in november and can't even played with those cards enough time. He bought those classic packs just because people around web advised him to do that because of its evergreen statement even if I told him it is blizzard and everything can change in one day.
Before defending some thoughts, please just try to evaluate all of the possibilities. I will repeat again, Maybe we - 7 years of users might not deserve compensation but some people really do.
And That's right. Even if there is no refunds this time, Golden copies of Basic cards can be the source of some extra dust this time around but I advise you to spend them wisely or never do it because it is just one time deal and i really don't know if they are acquirable again from packs. I mean, if you want golden copies of them again in future, you might have to craft them with dust. Not %100 sure tho.
And If anyone can say that what will happen the Classic Packs and will they offer Basic cards, I will be appreciated as well.
statistics junkies..
I wish you could also enjoy all parts of games but winrates matter more than enjoyement.
Even she is my favorite Warcraft character and love to have this portrait, i can't really get it why she is Rogue portrait.
She is a ..... Warden !? :( not rogue !?
C'mon Blizzard !
well, there was no Bloodsail Flybooters in those times.
I was playing some non-combo Quest Rogue in wild for 4/4 lackeys and believe me you don't even need bounce with Bloodsail Flybooter and with lackeys anymore to complete the quest. If you are lucky enough, 2 copies of it will complete it for you and that's not that hard, i know that because i played a lot in wild.
In my opinion, it should be reverted because of Bluegill and Boar nerfs. I really think that the unnerf of The Caverns Below is fair enough with charge nerfs but i'm repeating again, you don't even need bounce to complete it with Bloodsail Flybooter now.
Blade Flurry gets what it deserves.
actually, Stowaway is great with C'Thun, the Shattered. It draws both spells and C'Thun, the Shattered itself.
Bloodthirsty Marauder is just like - what was the deadly sin of Legion Rearguard !?
Which stops ALL chained spells.
ALL
I already wrote a long comment under Leblanc's reveal article. So I won't repeat them.
I just recreated Leblanc with the revealed cards that how I wanted her to be.
I really don't know about her power level, I didn't think of any of the existing cards while I'm creating this. Just wanted to create an interesting version instead of a creepy aggro one.
I kept Leblanc's Mirror Image at 4 health because of the possible heal playarounds to fake the opponent. Level-up conditions/Stats/keywords might be overpowered or weak but can be tweaked. I just wanted to know that you're happy with the real LeBlanc or something like this which I showed above.
Oh and I forgot to write on the card but Level 2 Leblanc loses its Last Breath after she dies.
Edit: I have corrected level 2 state of her.
I am really so disappointed to see the real LeBlanc.
definitely not blitzcrank
For Aegwynn, the Guardian, I don't agree that decksize will not let her to be good. All she need is minions that produce spells. Team 5 still wants Mage to be the class that generates random spells. At least Aegwynn says it. How effective will those random spells are another question tho. Especially if they produce no damage dealing spells.
Well, at least Shurima + Hecarim is real.
Probably with Azir who is the ruler of these Sand people. So Azir is meant to be with Hecarim. We'll see.
-Rage Post-
She is one of my favourite champ in LoL and I won't even want to try her in LoR. SHAME !
Where is the all trickstery about her ?
I'm so angry at Riot, all of my favourite champs in LoL are crap in LoR. I know it is so early to say that she will be bad or good but she is not interesting to play neither.
They might even use Jandice Barov - like effect for her passive in LoL like; "When I die, Instead I am summoned again with 1 health and with my Mirror." And Mirror could have a text like "Your opponent can't see this text. I can't deal damage and whenever i take damage, i die." You simply level-up her for nothing. Because she won't survive for another 15+ damage most of the times and her requirement is "I saw" which is bad most of the times. She needs to be on board with her little hp.
Her blinks, Her Trickstery, All are gone for this Aggro crap. I had my hopes that some mage-like plays can be implemented to Noxus with LeBlanc. Now all is gone. They really want Noxus to be pure aggro region. That doesn't have to be. Red in Mtg isn't like that. Even Hunter has some cool mechanics in Hs.
I am really disappointed. I will keep my high hopes for Akali -the other favourite champion of me- for some interesting plays it seems and will wait to see when she will be released.
Bloody Business is situational Whirling Death, that you don't have to wait for combat, Sigil of Malice is worse Mystic Shot. Whispered Words is just a good card tho, but not interesting.
Black Rose Spy might be good, but delayed most of the times. You might be too late to play her most of times and for duping Champs, there are better options.
Thorn of the Rose is just a filler to give cheaper 5 attack to players that is interested in Reputation but doesn't have enough cards. Most worthless of these. Not even related with LeBlanc. Seems like "Leblanc also can stun your enemies like in LoL!" stuff that Riot wants to say.
The only interesting card here is Mimic to gain copies of fast and Slow spells that your opponent cast. Might be the best card of this reveal.
Thanks for the link, but i have still some questions.
It says that Classic packs will continue to give classic cards, but the 2014 versions. For example, We can't open Brightwing from them. And my question is that new classic cards which is in core set 2021aren't collectible ? I mean, Won't None of the existing packs give Alexstrasza the Life-Binder for example ? If it is like that, What will happen in 2022 ? Can't we play those cards in wild if they don't decide to put them Core set 2022 ?
Damn Blizzard, When you made some changes, there are never enough infos !
Hecarim now has better Shark.
what my thought is; if level progression of classes will give core set cards through level 10, i can think of that after level 10 they will continue to give basic + golden cards but can't be so sure of it as well.
Wild packs sounds bad actually. :D
I'm using emotes mostly for some reactions, greet and such. I mean, normal ways. Not spamming or anything.
When they never emote back, I know that they squelched at the first moment when we encountered. I consider this as a bm. Think that you re playing this game physically and as soon as you sit, your opponent seals their ears with something. Spamming might annoy everyone, I'm ok with that but you can squelch after bunch of emotes, You don't have to do it instantly whenever you encountered with a human-being.
I was so annoyed when Quest Druid was in the meta. They were there but they act like they are afk. I really hated that. In my opinion that was a BM as well.
Also, not accepting friend requests are bad manners in my opinion because I want to say something to my opponent after the games end. Sometimes it was about how they played well, sometimes I want to ask some questions about the game why they decide to do that and sometimes it was all about their nickname, and sometimes it was a different deck and i want to ask for codes but so less people accept it. I can understand that people thinks always the bad side of that; "They added me, They will be toxic about game/deck etc." but it is bad manners to not accept in my opinion. You don't really have to read intentions.
Other than that, Simple stuff like roping, spamming etc. But Roping after doing their move and spend all of their mana annoys me more than waiting to play until rope comes constantly.
Imagine you triggered Aegwynn, the Guardian onto Imprisoned Phoenix, Your Fireballs are now Pyroblasts.
I'm actually saying that, Why not both ?
Choosable quests might be even better in my opinion. I mean, The game can ask you whenever you open the game for the day first time like discover mechanic and choose between options of game modes, not especially the quests. It can be a random quest from chosen category like;
Opened the game;
A screen of choices appeared as "Arena, Duels, Battlegrounds, Casual/Ranked"
I chose you, Casual/Ranked !
I obtained a new random quest related with Casual/Ranked
He chose you, Battlegrounds !
He obtained a new random quest related with Battlegrounds !
Everyone is happy !
Oh, And there is some extra;
"I didn't like this quest, let's reroll"
I obtained a new random quest related with Casual/Ranked again !
"He didn't like that quest, let's reroll"
He obtained a new random quest related with Battlegrounds again !
Everyone is Happier !
That must not be so hard to implement, I presume.
I really wonder that; Can you say those reasonings for a player who starts the game in january 2020 and buys great amount of Classic packs due to their evergreen guarantee? or crafted some classic legendaries with their very limited dust.
Just answer this question and then we will ok to agree that you will already enjoyed with what you bought well enough.
Veteran players who plays this game for 7 years may not even care for these core set changes just because they already enjoyed their product they bought but some players that started the game just bunch of weeks/months ago might have bought Classic packs just for they are evergreen. May be I don't deserve a compensation just because of that I already played with them for a lot of time but you can't say those comperatively new players who just bought great amount of classic packs deserve some compensation for reality.
If you sell products under the name of "evergreen" until the changes happen, even you make your users apply some ridiculous "terms of use" and "Blizzard can do any changes in any time without asking permission" rubbish, Even if it is not their right to ask legally just because they apply TOU ,You should give some compensation to those people ethically.
Don't get me wrong, I'm like you and I honestly think that I have already enjoyed what I bought in 7 years but it is the reality that some people bought some classic packs due to its evergreen statement not long ago. I have an acquaintance from web who did that in november and can't even played with those cards enough time. He bought those classic packs just because people around web advised him to do that because of its evergreen statement even if I told him it is blizzard and everything can change in one day.
Before defending some thoughts, please just try to evaluate all of the possibilities. I will repeat again, Maybe we - 7 years of users might not deserve compensation but some people really do.
Yes, some basics are rotating. Check the Core Set 2021 Guide page for which card isn't rotating so you can find out which one is.
I can give some examples; Arcane Explosion, Timber Wolf, Moonfire, Cleave etc.
And That's right. Even if there is no refunds this time, Golden copies of Basic cards can be the source of some extra dust this time around but I advise you to spend them wisely or never do it because it is just one time deal and i really don't know if they are acquirable again from packs. I mean, if you want golden copies of them again in future, you might have to craft them with dust. Not %100 sure tho.
And If anyone can say that what will happen the Classic Packs and will they offer Basic cards, I will be appreciated as well.