A new card has been revealed by YiLingShu. The English name and wording have now been confirmed (our original translation was Professor Turalyon).
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If an eight mana card in paladin removes a single minion when equality consecrate is an eight mana combo that removes all their minions exists. it's not good. You'll remove one minion then they'll kill it easily. If it was: "Whenever this minion would do damage to another minion set that minion to 3/3" It would be way better for the effect. Making it need to be removed with weapons or spells. Or punish you for playing it against a board of small minions(lackeys for instance) and a single big minion(edwin).
Lore-wise, this is a strange choice of expansion to put Turalyon in. I was under the belief he was off-world fighting with the Army of the Light from the second Horde vs Alliance war through to the Legion expansion, meaning he had no interaction with Scholomance which was scourge affiliated (i.e. third war onwards).
Effect-wise, you have to consider that paladin does not have hard removal... at all. There's a few leftover damage dealing spells in classic and the extremely situational destroy effect in Sacred Trial, but that's it. They have to do everything through weapon and/or minion damage, alongside debuffs to bring big minions in reach. So the context for this card is very different to Natalie Seline who is in a class that can easily kill things using only 1 card. Therefore I expect Turalyon to be used in slow paladin lists, simply because it provides card efficiency the class simply doesn't have otherwise.
Also, this was a clever way to give the class hard removal while still doing it via debuffs and attacks. For that reason alone I like the design.
If I recall Scholomance was there way before the 3rd War, it only became the base of operations in the 3rd war. By the 3rd war, they were all then Undead and Liches, etc... this is a "spin on the time line" like One Night in Karazhan was. where Medivh was a jolly, playful person, instead of the Medivh we know from Playing Warcraft. I say don't sweat the small stuff and enjoy it, so far I'm digging this expac.
Ture, Scholomance was around long before the 3rd war, but as Lord Alexei Barov's family home. I don't believe it had anything to do with any paladins or schools at all.
That said, I'm also happy for HS to completely twist the lore like this. HS should definitely unshackle itself from the details of Warcraft lore if it fits the HS aesthetic better. It's just that in this case Turalyon feels like the least thematic big paladin character they could have chosen.
Yeah, they probably just didn't have any Character they could use from lore to fit Pally in the Scholomance theme, not many Paladins in the Barov Family lineage.
I agree on the lore front. Would of rathered seen someone from the argent dawn or scarlet crusade in this spot with the effect.
I like the effect. A remove that leaves a body is always good. Paladin has less removal than most classes so I can see this being used. Similar to Eadric or the taunt from ungoro (on phone or I'd look it up). Libram of justice is still the go to removal I think but this has a chance.
Yeah my wowpedia skills tell me Turalyon should have been stuck behind the Dark Portal for at least a couple years at this point. Or maybe already recruited into the Army of the Light. Then again I can't find info anywhere that Kel'thuzad actually opened a real school for any length of time so def fudging the previously established lore on this one. Whoopsie! But also I'm cool with this. More interesting than Shadowlands at this point.
Oh yes, there's a lot of fudging regarding the school: I don't think KT even tried to pretend it was anything other than the horrific school of necromancy that HS has tucked away in the basement.
I think it's impossible to say whether Turalyon and Alleria had joined the army of the light yet because they were in the twisting nether so time went all funny (squeezing 1000 years into 24, or something like it). I'm fine with him being here on the basis that HS 'lore' is just stories told in a tavern, so the possibly drunk story-teller might get their timelines mixed up. Even so, most important paladins actually did fight and/or end up joining the scourge, so there were surely better options.
Like how cool would it be if instead we got one of the paladins from the 4 horsemen fight in Naxx? The idea that he had some kind of relationship with them prior to then wouldn't be such a stretch. Certainly not as big as Turalyon. The one paladin that def missed all of this.
Agreed. Alexandros Mograine (who Baron Rivendare later took the place of) would have been perfect since Kel'Thuzad himself turned him into a death knight.
Perhaps they had the card mechanics in mind first and felt it was best applied to someone who isn't best known for becoming an undead. Oh well.
Subdue is basically hard removal for paladin
Often yes, but actually no. Examples like Ragnaros the Firelord show why you still need to use something else to finish it off. Even if you just hit a big stat-stick, there is still the chance it gets silenced and you have to deal with it again.
The ultimate meme is to play this card with the quest, make a 2/2 copy of it that can't trade with anything
Technically speaking, if you have LIbrams it could works quite easily.
Copy it, then attach a Libram for a free trade after which you get the libram back for the same thing next turn.
NOt that that's particularly good, but hey, any reason for playing Quest Paladin is welcome.
The copy would only be 2/2 and thus leaving the opponent with a 3/1. Not a great result.
I don't want to be unkind, but this comment made my day :)
Its really does look like a meme against a proposal for a meme doesn't it?
Yeah the anti-meme meme squad. Those guys are pretty militant. They asked me to join but I didn't fancy the uniform or the facial tattoo requirements.
If I understand well the effect is BEFORE the attack. So, when played, it kills a minion and leaves a 3/9 body in the field. Not so bad after all ...
Me: Oh, wow, this card is cool!
More than half the comments: This card is crap.
Me: o_O