Card reveal season for Forged in the Barrens continues with a card reveal from Eduquesa!
Two watch post cards were revealed by AmazingLP!
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1 star...for all 3 cards.
People are sleeping on the outposts.
Crossroads basically gives you a scaling buff machine against any spell based deck while Mor'shan hardcounters swarm decks.
Like...if you ever manage to take the board and play this afterwards it will almost guarantee you'll keep the board for a while.
What an awesome mechanic. Great concept for something original with lots of potential to build upon in the future.
a lot of hate for something different that is not deemed immediate or reactive. T
I don't see why people are saying Watch posts are bad. They supplement a gameplan that revolves around constraining your opponent's options, because every time they do something, you get a benefit. To me, they're like less impactful secrets that your opponent can see. Ogremancer became the unsung hero of the meta in DMF, so I believe that people are underestimating cards that give you things when your opponent does things.
The Mor'shan Watch Post on its own seems very powerful. A lot of efficient spell removal will rotate, and it's just crushing against an aggro deck for coming out so early. Your opponent is either forced to commit damage to remove the Watch Post (thus killing off their board, or at least weakening it and making it susceptible to removal) or let it sit and allow you to stabilise through the tokens it generates.
Besides, we haven't yet seen all the cards. It's certain there are many more watch posts, and potentially more watch post synergy cards that are yet to be revealed. We may see a "Give all your watch posts Taunt" or "Your watch posts can attack this turn" card.
What I'm trying to get at is watch posts are not amazing, but I think it's incorrect to call them outright "bad". I believe, just like with all of the new mechanics that Blizzard introduces, it should be given a chance before making a preemptive decision.
The legendary is pretty bad though. Why not just play a corrupted Carnival Clown?
I'm not sold on the Ogremancer comparison here. The first thing to note is that the 2/2s having taunt is really important because it gets teched into decks to thwart spell-heavy aggro decks. The second thing to note is that its recent prevalence is almost exclusively in Highlander Control decks. But for that deck restriction, those decks would much more happily run a second copy of some class AOE (e.g. Breath of the Infinite or Flame Ward). Highlander decks aren't going to be relevant in Standard after rotation, so many of these control decks will just prefer to run more AOE over convoluted token generation.
Despite Mor'shan Watch Post being decent tech against token generation if it comes down on turn 3, the 2/2 bodies won't be worth nearly as much against midrange or control decks, which makes playing a "Can't Attack" minion a lot more painful.
I think the problem with these is that you are spending mana to do nothing until your opponent does. A meta in which these are playable will be board-centric, and if you get behind playing a 4/6 is going to get you to lose the game. Of course, you will have other minions, but these are dead draws otherwise. I also think that it is better to wait and see to make a decision, but given the current context of cards being printed, I think these cards are terrible. These could be released right now, and they would not have a lasting impact after the weekends.
Also, I think you have overrated Ogremancer, lol. I might have missed it, but I have not seen that guy pop in HSreplay or anywhere else before.
Edit: Thank you, TIL that Ogremancer wasn't packfiller.
Ogremancer is becoming popular in control decks as a tech against Rogue and Demon Hunter. It's actually extremely strong for that purpose, and that's about it.
Mor'shan Watch Post is the better of the two. Its pretty hard to find a deck that doesn't play minions in it. And if you manage to get it out on 3 and your opponent can't trade into it, its almost always going to get you a 2/2, which along with a must kill target, isn't altogether a bad result. I personally think people are sleeping on this card, but we'll find out when Barrens is released.
As for the Crossroads Watch Post, its only bad because Ogremancer is the better of the two. And its significantly easier to find decks that dont really play any spells, and without taunt in those matches, its just trash levels of bad.
On ogremancer, its only appearing now because masters tour featured lots of players playing this to counter rogue and libram pally. But honestly, its more significant in scholomance when the meta is mostly small spell mage, rogue and control priests.
*cough cough* No Minion Mage /s
We're playing Warcraft3 now?
I'm 100% sure outpost will be a thing all year, as this will be a Alliance vs Horde year. But I don't know where people are getting that they are bad stated, crappy, epic minions.
Reveals card that synergizes with watchpost, but not alongside the actual watchpost cards.
The watchpost looks pretty big. Chances are good there's going to be a few cards that have synergy with watchposts down the line.
As for this card, its usefulness will depend on the watchpost cards themselves because they don't seem to have taunt, and neither this card nor the token it summons has it either. So the watchpost either does something really special or Animated Broomstick is just mandatory in this style of play; otherwise you just die the turn after you play this.
This has got to be the worst legendary in a looooong time. It's an understatted minion that requires you to play even worse minions that are high rarity in order to break even. Third worst leg in the game, after Millhouse and The Beast!
I guess you're a big fan of Majordomo Executus, who currently holds the seat for the 'most likely to backfire' card award.
The watchposts aren't bad honestly. Mor'shan Watch Post is a 3/5 that summons a 2/2 for every minion played by your opponent. If you play this on 3 and your opponent can't trade into it, then its almost always going to get you a 2/2 at very worst. I like this one in particular, and wouldn't be surprised to see it in at least a few tier 2 decks.
As for kargal himself, well, I'm not a big fan, but that's not to say its bad. If you play at least 2 watchposts, that's quite a good deal of 5/5s on board which along with broomstick can still be a decent threat. Its also a nightmare to deal with by control decks.
I'm not sure about the worst legendary (in a long time), but I have to agree that this is pretty bad. Unless a really awesome watch post gets printed, this card will be too slow. If a really awesome watch post does get printed, I imagine you would just put it into an aggro/midrange deck and skip this and the others.
The watchposts are basically minions that can't attack and has a benefit when you're opponent does something.
How do we summon watch posts?
You play them. They're collectible minions. Crappy, high-rarity ones too.
Yeah already know, Amazing LP wasn't quite up yet when I asked...