That moment you know you have a bad idea

Submitted 4 years, 10 months ago by

Have you ever had a moment when you wanted to craft an expensive card (Epic or Legendary) based on an idea you know is going to be bad of a deck you know that will never work, but you just have to do it for the fun of it?

What was the card, and what was the result of this endeavor? 

I am having that moment right now... and was wondering how others handled it :)

  • Zebulun's Avatar
    255 85 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago

    Have you ever had a moment when you wanted to craft an expensive card (Epic or Legendary) based on an idea you know is going to be bad of a deck you know that will never work, but you just have to do it for the fun of it?

    What was the card, and what was the result of this endeavor? 

    I am having that moment right now... and was wondering how others handled it :)

    Legends never die,
    They become a part of you.

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  • DoubleSummon's Avatar
    Ancestral Recall 1585 2271 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago

    Elemental mage, right? 

    Crafted 3 epics yesterday, 2 mana cyclones and a plague of murlocs for elemage and control shaman respectably, needlessly to say Both decks suck.

    Thanks blizzard for being able to test decks cheaply.. Oh wait. 

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  • Meteorite12's Avatar
    670 696 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago

    I remember crafting Mukla ages ago for Midrange Hunter. To be fair though, he actually wasn’t that bad. He helped with getting in a nice chunk of damage early on, and the bananas usually didn’t end up screwing me over

    Who needs consistency when you could have fun?

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  • AngryShuckie's Avatar
    1705 1735 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago
    Quote From DoubleSummon

    Elemental mage, right? 

    Crafted 3 epics yesterday, 2cmana cyclones and a plague of murlocs for elemage and control shaman respectably, needlessly to say Both decks suck.

    Thanks blizzard for being able to test decks cheaply.. Oh wait. 

    If you want to test decks cheaply, let other people do it for you then craft cards if the deck is found to be good. Or if it is an option you can get a friend to make the deck, then use that deck in games against them.

    Asking to be able to test everything cheaply yourself is asking for a lot more than your off-hand comment makes it sound. If you can come up with a way to do it that both lets you test against the meta and doesn't decimate Blizzard's profits (they justifiably wouldn't do it if it did), then you should let them know.

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    Anyway, I play exclusively meme/low power decks, so either everything I craft is a bad idea or nothing is. Though I'm pretty sure Bolf Ramshield qualifies as a truly bad idea. I don't remember what the plan was, but I know it didn't even meet my low low expectations.

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  • DoubleSummon's Avatar
    Ancestral Recall 1585 2271 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago
    Quote From AngryShuckie
    Quote From DoubleSummon

    Elemental mage, right? 

    Crafted 3 epics yesterday, 2cmana cyclones and a plague of murlocs for elemage and control shaman respectably, needlessly to say Both decks suck.

    Thanks blizzard for being able to test decks cheaply.. Oh wait. 

    If you want to test decks cheaply, let other people do it for you then craft cards if the deck is found to be good. Or if it is an option you can get a friend to make the deck, then use that deck in games against them.

    Asking to be able to test everything cheaply yourself is asking for a lot more than your off-hand comment makes it sound. If you can come up with a way to do it that both lets you test against the meta and doesn't decimate Blizzard's profits (they justifiably wouldn't do it if it did), then you should let them know.

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    Anyway, I play exclusively meme/low power decks, so either everything I craft is a bad idea or nothing is. Though I'm pretty sure Bolf Ramshield qualifies as a truly bad idea. I don't remember what the plan was, but I know it didn't even meet my low low expectations.

    They could start by increasing the chance of getting epics.. sometimes I am more excited to open a specific epic than a legendary..

    My friends don't play hearthstone or they don't have a big collection, most of them quit.. guess why.

    I got around 15K dust stored in duplicates but you never know what they will nerf so I can't press "disenchant all" button and going over all commons one for one is a pain, also I am in high hope Blizzard one day decides to stop being so greedy and increase the dust per common to 10 or decrease the cost of epics.. I can keep dreaming on that..

    Then people complain why people net deck so much, can't try stuff myself so I have to copy what works so I am not stuck with a meme deck.

     

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  • EpicHercules's Avatar
    Jaina 270 59 Posts Joined 06/21/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago

    It would be kind of nice to have like a "Practice" mode where you could at least play against the A.I. with all the cards unlocked. That would give people a chance to try new and different mechanics to at least get a feel for how they play and if it's even reasonable to try in the meta.

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  • YourPrivateNightmare's Avatar
    Skeleton 2010 4741 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago

    Ah yes, I remember when I crafte Lady in White thinking that there had to be some way to make that card playable

     

    There wasn't

    I tried having fun once.

    It was awful.

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  • YourPrivateNightmare's Avatar
    Skeleton 2010 4741 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago
    Quote From EpicHercules

    It would be kind of nice to have like a "Practice" mode where you could at least play against the A.I. with all the cards unlocked. That would give people a chance to try new and different mechanics to at least get a feel for how they play and if it's even reasonable to try in the meta.

    Silly player, then how would Blizzard get you to spend your dust unwisel and encourage you to buy more packs?

    I tried having fun once.

    It was awful.

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  • PopeNeia's Avatar
    Darkmaster 640 841 Posts Joined 07/06/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago

    I crafted 2 Portal Overfiend for my Portal Warlock. It was okay, but not game breaking though.

    This ain't no place for a hero

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  • Avalon's Avatar
    Salty Dog 1550 2105 Posts Joined 06/12/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago
    Quote From DoubleSummon

    They could start by increasing the chance of getting epics.. sometimes I am more excited to open a specific epic than a legendary..

    I got around 15K dust stored in duplicates but you never know what they will nerf so I can't press "disenchant all" button and going over all commons one for one is a pain, also I am in high hope Blizzard one day decides to stop being so greedy and increase the dust per common to 10 or decrease the cost of epics.. I can keep dreaming on that..

    Then people complain why people net deck so much, can't try stuff myself so I have to copy what works so I am not stuck with a meme deck.

    I absolutely agree with everything written here. Everything.

    Most of the times (unless it's a Zephrys the Great/Kronx Dragonhoof/Siamat type of card) crafting stuff feels like a gamble in which you have to hope the meta won't change so much that your new toys will be pushed out of playability.

    Unless you don't aim for full collection or you have plenty of dust due to continuous preorders, crafting can be punishing and stressful at times, especially if you want to optimize your resources.

    For what concerns the thread's topic... Remember Doom in the Tomb? October 2019? Yeah, the night of the event's launch I got really drunk and I thought Flamewaker Cyclone Mage would have totally wrecked the meta. So what? Crafted 2nd copy of Mana Cyclone and Stargazer Luna (a Legendary I always wanted to have but never had the courage to craft because I don't have good Mage stuff and because of what I wrote above).

    To be fair none of these cards are bad by any means and sometimes I even use them (Luna is good in OG Odd Mage, now even better with Arcane Amplifier), but yeah after 10 games or so I realized that spending 2000 dust while drunk is not as good as you might think.

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  • Bystekhilcar's Avatar
    270 335 Posts Joined 09/02/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago

    Hah, you'd be amazed. If I'm particularly interested in an expansion, I will theorycraft a huge number of decks (I think last time I did this I had ~14) and I will make damn sure I have all the necessary cards on release day. As a side effect, I spend a huge amount of packs on release day when that happens.

    The decks I come up with are rarely, if ever, good (I don't bother posting them because why post something that has a 90+% chance of being garbage?) and it costs me a lot of money... but it's fun, so I do it. The bright side of having a decent job, I suppose.

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    I'm not as good as turn 4 Barnes; But I'm at least a Twilight Drake

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  • AliRadicali's Avatar
    465 713 Posts Joined 06/06/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago

    Dr. Boom, Mad Genius for me. The card is fine, but I never had all the required cards for the pimped out warrior deck so I'd invariably lose to the other warriors, at which point there no point in playing the deck, really. And I don't even enjoy paying control warrior, so there's that.

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  • Zwane's Avatar
    Wizard 320 423 Posts Joined 06/04/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago

    Well, yesterday I was feeling bold so I upgraded 2 legendary cards to golden since I had 5K spare dust sitting in my account and some 5K gold which I converted to 30 packs yielding some more dust. So now I am the proud owner of golden versions of Luna's Pocket Galaxy and Archmage Antonidas which both mean a lot to me personally (they are my friends so to speak).

    I am not sure I will later think this was a very bad idea when I really need some new card and I can't afford it. 

    But I now have a clear new goal: get all mage cards to golden and then to get a golden deck (slightly harder probably).

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  • Koetti's Avatar
    1095 863 Posts Joined 11/21/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago

    Crafting a Legendary because of a stupid Idea/it seems cool is always the first Thing I do during Xpac-Launch.

    So, yeah... Waxadred, Murozond the Infinite, Chameleos, Zerek, Master Cloner, The Marsh Queen, Emeriss, Temporus, Madame Lazul, Vereesa Windrunner, Bazaar Burglary, etc. 

    But I regret Nothing!

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  • Blackpancake's Avatar
    85 8 Posts Joined 11/21/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago

    Crafted Octosarifor a deathrattle roque tempo deck this season... My first craft was The Last Kaleidosaur btw because I got The Voraxx 

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  • Zwane's Avatar
    Wizard 320 423 Posts Joined 06/04/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago

    I once crafted a warrior legendary Dr. Boom, Mad Genius (what was I thinking my god) but I was happy when they nerfed it so I could dust it again.

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  • JFK's Avatar
    Curious Pair 1070 621 Posts Joined 07/31/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago
    Quote From Koetti

    Crafting a Legendary because of a stupid Idea/it seems cool is always the first Thing I do during Xpac-Launch.

    So, yeah... Waxadred, Murozond the Infinite, Chameleos, Zerek, Master Cloner, The Marsh Queen, Emeriss, Temporus, Madame Lazul, Vereesa Windrunner, Bazaar Burglary, etc. 

    But I regret Nothing!

    It's funny how half of those are Priest...

     

    I crafted Unite the Murlocs for a control murloc shaman. This was before Witchwood, mind you, so no RoS support either. Needles to say it wasn't super-duper successful.

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  • og0's Avatar
    Red Riding Hood 1570 1062 Posts Joined 03/31/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago

    Would be nice if you couldn't get more than 2 of the same epic.  I really don't need 6 x Bestial Wrath when I'm missing useful epics.

    But they said they won't do that so I guess we need to be happy they changed legendary duplicate rules.

    All generalizations are false.

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  • Vandaren's Avatar
    620 636 Posts Joined 06/05/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago

    Well i craft Zephrys the Great just for the sake of playing him.

    Now i know that he is very strong and all, but i don't have all the necessary epics and legends to complement him.

    So i just make a highlander deck with whatever cards i have and just go with it. I guess you could say that i got carried away by the hype train. 

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  • Xarkkal's Avatar
    Servant of Illidan 910 1321 Posts Joined 03/29/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago

    Almost 4 years ago, shortly after I started playing. The first legendary I saved up to craft was Illidan Stormrage because I thought it would be good in my Zoolock Deck, and I felt it was wrong to not have Illidan in my collection because my son is named Illidan.

    Have never used the card once...

     

    Blizzard: When will you do this amazing character justice and give him an actually playable card?

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  • SamHobbs494's Avatar
    Scrambled Eggs 400 245 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago
    Quote From Xarkkal

    Almost 4 years ago, shortly after I started playing. The first legendary I saved up to craft was Illidan Stormrage because I thought it would be good in my Zoolock Deck, and I felt it was wrong to not have Illidan in my collection because my son is named Illidan.

    Have never used the card once...

     

    Blizzard: When will you do this amazing character justice and give him an actually playable card?

    You win at child naming 



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  • ArngrimUndying's Avatar
    Draconically Dedicated 520 626 Posts Joined 06/11/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago

    I crafted Sir Finley of the Sands day 1 of SoU because I was so sure Highlander Paladin was going to be good...and then did exactly the same thing with Dragon Paladin & Dragonrider Talritha day 1 DoD. I should leave Paladin decks alone...

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  • DoubleSummon's Avatar
    Ancestral Recall 1585 2271 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago
    Quote From ArngrimUndying

    I crafted Sir Finley of the Sands day 1 of SoU because I was so sure Highlander Paladin was going to be good...and then did exactly the same thing with Dragon Paladin & Dragonrider Talritha day 1 DoD. I should leave Paladin decks alone...

    Paladin is currently tier 2... as a mech deck..

    Well about dragon paladin maybe next year I don't think it's the last of those cards..

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  • drfelip's Avatar
    Dragon Scholar 365 289 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago

    Well, you know, I crafted Tak Nozwhisker, I thought it would make pogo decks finally viable... I played it like 3 times. Maybe my dust deserves trying a bit harder...

    Last time it was Nozdormu the Timeless, at least this one is playable, but not nearly as good as I thought. 

    The pleasure is mine.

    My last standard decks: nothing special right now.

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  • Savron's Avatar
    Malfurion 155 44 Posts Joined 06/10/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago
    Quote From og0

    Would be nice if you couldn't get more than 2 of the same epic.  I really don't need 6 x Bestial Wrath when I'm missing useful epics.

    But they said they won't do that so I guess we need to be happy they changed legendary duplicate rules.

    I feel you! I have 3x Embiggen and 2x Golden Embiggen. You know what I wish for ^^

    Mine was Mojomaster Zihi for Even Shaman in Wild. I didn't have neither Ragnaros the Firelord nor The Lich King but wanted to have a good standard card... later I just replaced it with an Eater of Secrets.

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  • Xarkkal's Avatar
    Servant of Illidan 910 1321 Posts Joined 03/29/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago
    Quote From SamHobbs494
    Quote From Xarkkal

    Almost 4 years ago, shortly after I started playing. The first legendary I saved up to craft was Illidan Stormrage because I thought it would be good in my Zoolock Deck, and I felt it was wrong to not have Illidan in my collection because my son is named Illidan.

    Have never used the card once...

     

    Blizzard: When will you do this amazing character justice and give him an actually playable card?

    You win at child naming 

    I can't take credit. That would be his mother's idea.

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  • DoubleSummon's Avatar
    Ancestral Recall 1585 2271 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago
    Quote From Savron
    Quote From og0

    Would be nice if you couldn't get more than 2 of the same epic.  I really don't need 6 x Bestial Wrath when I'm missing useful epics.

    But they said they won't do that so I guess we need to be happy they changed legendary duplicate rules.

    I feel you! I have 3x Embiggen and 2x Golden Embiggen. You know what I wish for ^^

    Mine was Mojomaster Zihi for Even Shaman in Wild. I didn't have neither Ragnaros the Firelord nor The Lich King but wanted to have a good standard card... later I just replaced it with an Eater of Secrets.

    don't have your hopes up, I doubt they will nerf that card the deck was balanced before a certain elusive beast came around.

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  • anchorm4n's Avatar
    Harbinger of Winter 1915 2510 Posts Joined 03/13/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago

    To hell with rationality, I will craft Unseal the Vault, Halazzi, the Lynx and Boommaster Flark tonight and create that quest hunter deck. Nevermind I already had pulled them all from packs once and dusted them. Someone stop me please?

    I notice I am confused. Something I believe isn't true. How do I know what I think I know?
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  • Bystekhilcar's Avatar
    270 335 Posts Joined 09/02/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago
    Quote From Savron
    Quote From og0

    Would be nice if you couldn't get more than 2 of the same epic.  I really don't need 6 x Bestial Wrath when I'm missing useful epics.

    But they said they won't do that so I guess we need to be happy they changed legendary duplicate rules.

    I feel you! I have 3x Embiggen and 2x Golden Embiggen. You know what I wish for ^^

    Mine was Mojomaster Zihi for Even Shaman in Wild. I didn't have neither Ragnaros the Firelord nor The Lich King but wanted to have a good standard card... later I just replaced it with an Eater of Secrets.

    Shame there wasn't someone posting specifically to point out that Embiggen wouldn't be a good card from the time it was announced... *cough* :P

    I see you when you're sleeping; I'm gone before you wake

    I'm not as good as turn 4 Barnes; But I'm at least a Twilight Drake

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  • Zebulun's Avatar
    255 85 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago

    My latest unsuccessful idea was Arcane Giant for a spell priest. It was tones of fun to play with, and together with Grave Horror I had some extra board presence. Played it at the end of last season since I was at the bottom of rank 5 and didn't care to climb anymore. But as the new season hit it was clear, this card will not help me to climb as priest.

    Legends never die,
    They become a part of you.

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  • MurlocAggroB's Avatar
    COMMENT_COUNT_900_HS 1170 933 Posts Joined 06/12/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago

    I crafted Making Mummies day one. I wanted that deck to work so badly...

    Maybe when Shotbot comes out. I won't stop dreaming.

    A man is lying on the street, some punks chopped off his head

    I'm the only one who stops to see if he's dead.

    Hmm. Turns out he's dead.

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  • ArngrimUndying's Avatar
    Draconically Dedicated 520 626 Posts Joined 06/11/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago
    Quote From MurlocAggroB

    I crafted Making Mummies day one. I wanted that deck to work so badly...

    Maybe when Shotbot comes out. I won't stop dreaming.

    I got that out of a pack and it's honestly pretty decent, particularity the deathrattle-mech variant - definitely very mulligan/curve-heavy in getting the Reborns, but it's on of those snowball decks where if you can make it to mid-game and start spamming, your oppoent will be very hard-pressed to win with anything short of a Plague of Death clearing the field or OTK.

    Though that deck's time to shine was definitely the Halloween event - 2 mana Sylvanas Windrunners & Ragnaros the Firelords? Yes, please!

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  • MurlocAggroB's Avatar
    COMMENT_COUNT_900_HS 1170 933 Posts Joined 06/12/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago
    Quote From ArngrimUndying
    I got that out of a pack and it's honestly pretty decent, particularity the deathrattle-mech variant - definitely very mulligan/curve-heavy in getting the Reborns, but it's on of those snowball decks where if you can make it to mid-game and start spamming, your oppoent will be very hard-pressed to win with anything short of a Plague of Death clearing the field or OTK.

    Though that deck's time to shine was definitely the Halloween event - 2 mana Sylvanas Windrunners & Ragnaros the Firelords? Yes, please!

    "Pretty decent" is stretching, but it's not useless. It's just a horrifically inconsistent deck, which is why I'm hopeful for Shotbot.

     

    (Also why are the quotes so hard to work with on this forum. I really wish you could paste them in BBCode)

    A man is lying on the street, some punks chopped off his head

    I'm the only one who stops to see if he's dead.

    Hmm. Turns out he's dead.

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  • Bystekhilcar's Avatar
    270 335 Posts Joined 09/02/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago

    Oh, one more to add to the collection - a year or two back, I decided I was tired of having every card on day 1 with nothing to work towards. I also knew I was too weak to simply stop myself from buying a huge number of packs. So, I decided to implement an alternative rule - I was only allowed to craft golden cards from then on. That way I wouldn't have enough dust to make every card and would be forced to work towards some of them. Perfect idea!

    ..Except I misjudged my own stupidity, and the only real result was I just bought more packs. I am the worst.

    I see you when you're sleeping; I'm gone before you wake

    I'm not as good as turn 4 Barnes; But I'm at least a Twilight Drake

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  • dapperdog's Avatar
    Dragon Scholar 1890 5610 Posts Joined 07/29/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago

    Just on top of my head I crafted:

    - 2 x Juicy Psychmelon:  For the Hadronox + Dollmaster Dorian combo in the previous meta. Won some matches with plenty of hearty laughs (against odd paladin was a blast to win). Loss many many matches because I couldn't draw my combo, or just plain dead to aggro.

    - 2x Muckmorpher: For the big shaman games. Really fun, except its inconsistent, and you get destroyed by shaman's bad draws, which is alot of the time. Oh, and I ended up opening a 3rd Muckmorpher later on. This, blizzard, is why we don't like to craft epic cards.

    - 2x Stampeding Roar: Was to try out beast/egg druid. Was fun, but you tend to lose. Alot.

    - Khadgar: Is a very good card right? But I crafted it midway in SoU to play cyclone mage with less than 50% win rate. Yes, I really really love playing poor decks.

    - 2x Mana Cyclone: Wanted it Didn't get it in a pack. Didn't want to risk the duplicates. Ended up crafting midway in SoU when it sucks.

    - 2x Umbral Skulker: Because I love rogue as a class and really really wanted to play maly rogue. Needless to say, its not been a successful craft

     

    Highlights how expensive it is to have fun in hearthstone.

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  • dapperdog's Avatar
    Dragon Scholar 1890 5610 Posts Joined 07/29/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago
    Quote From YourPrivateNightmare
    Quote From EpicHercules

    It would be kind of nice to have like a "Practice" mode where you could at least play against the A.I. with all the cards unlocked. That would give people a chance to try new and different mechanics to at least get a feel for how they play and if it's even reasonable to try in the meta.

    Silly player, then how would Blizzard get you to spend your dust unwisel and encourage you to buy more packs?

    But it would be beneficial for the people out there so they can make an informed decision when they...oh its ACTIVISION-blizzard

    I'll see myself out.

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  • RavenSunHS's Avatar
    Refreshment Vendor 880 1487 Posts Joined 03/27/2019
    Posted 4 years, 10 months ago

    Lyra the Sunshard for some Miracle Priest, and King Mukla for Mill Rogue.

    I actually played both decks and cards for a while, and sometimes they win you games, but they are completely out of place in Wild...

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