I agree, unless they do some interesting combinations, Demon Hunter is going to be way behind the pack in wild.
One of the few ways I can see them balancing this out, is to literally change some of the Hunter and Warlock cards to be similar to the Karazhan expansion where they could be used in Hunter and Demon Hunter, or Warlock and Demon Hunter. This would give them more viability in wild. Otherwise, they would need to create at least 100 additional cards just to throw into wild for the Demon Hunter, on top of the standard rotation of cards, plus the base deck, plus the 100+ expansion cards. That is a lot for Blizzard to try to do just to add one more class.
I am a little surprised, however, that they didn't decide to go full-force into it and make Monk and Death Knight full-fledged classes as well.
Not necessarily, the amount of cards isn't a power level gauge, the class can have an impactful enough core set that it + some wild neutrals will be very solid and viable.. for example Sharkfin Fan works very well with the class but it will be in wild since it rotates now.. and the other 9 classes have a lot of trash, powercrept or outdated cards.. in the end you need 30 cards to build a deck it doesn't matter if the 30 cards are from older expansions or newer..
.....I'm sorry what? So they basically reprinted the old Savagery for just 2-mana. it's never a dead card because of hero power and with enough attack buffs (or just a weapon) it becomes pretty crazy.
Looks like Demon Hunter will be better at tempo than Rogue.
It's much better than savagery cause this class has actual weapons so it's more a like to Blade Flurry
The comparison with Elven Archer seems is appropriate, and because of that it doesn't look 'crazy'. Gain +1 attack at the cost of taking face damage if you hit a minion. Plus it's a demon I guess, we'll have to wait and see how much that means for the class.
There is quite a bit of synergy in the class for gaining attack on the hero.. but yep it's a +1 attack Elven Archer, nothing too crazy.
Seems like a great card 5 mana 4 damage aoe is quite premium I know it affects your own units but if you trade first it's quite good to regain a board.
I agree.. next time put on the title "new expansion leaked it's name and some content for the new year is available" and put a picture of something else maybe the hearthstone spiral box or something..
I don't care about spoilers I normally look for them but other people who wanted to avoid them.. it's not possible when there's a huge banner about it..
Also for next time, although the discussion is nice and I participate in it and all try to put spoiler free content..
oh well what is done is done and there is still a big part that isn't spoiled yet! so don't worry
@Theodrinus there is a lot of content coming along and a lot of details we are yet to see!
Think the class might get more cards than other classes to catch up this year only or will get more "neutral class cards"(think Hench-Clan Thug for rogue) than other classes.
I think they will support the class going forward.. HS is 6 years game it's time for a new class..
Giggling Inventor is not a full revert! but the card was too good at 5.. so I guess it's right.
Dr. boom at 7.. for 2 weeks rejoice warrior players I guess.. still hate to play against him, but in wild he is fine..
reckless inventor, yeah the nerf isn't justified anymore..
When is this update live?
Not necessarily, the amount of cards isn't a power level gauge, the class can have an impactful enough core set that it + some wild neutrals will be very solid and viable.. for example Sharkfin Fan works very well with the class but it will be in wild since it rotates now.. and the other 9 classes have a lot of trash, powercrept or outdated cards.. in the end you need 30 cards to build a deck it doesn't matter if the 30 cards are from older expansions or newer..
having "Resource generating" as a class weakness this card seems valuable to have as something to play early, and play around aoe.
it's a reverse Fire Fly though which just makes this card good.
Cheap spell triggers maybe, activating many "if you have atacked this turn" effects 2 damage for 0 mana (with face tanking).. seems solid.
it's a class card so it's fine.
This card is just good, really auto include in all aggro/midrange DH decks.
It's much better than savagery cause this class has actual weapons so it's more a like to Blade Flurry
also the hero power for this class costs 1.
Dragon Consort effect although you can't chain them cause this is not a demon.. that being said being able to play cards earlier is quite valuable.
Ress priest really want a word with you.
There is quite a bit of synergy in the class for gaining attack on the hero.. but yep it's a +1 attack Elven Archer, nothing too crazy.
Holy Fire seems to be removed from the classic set though.
And there's also rush in the basic set now!
This is a quite powerful engine but it's not too crazy, 2 hp on a 3 drop is easy to remove.
Seems really solid 3 mana deal 3,has synergy in the class and I guess they are demons as well(?) very solid all in all.
important note: finally there's rush in the basic set
This is a strong basic card, pretty sure it will be auto include initially on every DH deck it reminds me of Fire Elemental
Seems like a great card 5 mana 4 damage aoe is quite premium I know it affects your own units but if you trade first it's quite good to regain a board.
Obvious question but.. what is "outcast" 1 mana silence is kinda bad so it seems to be an easy requirement to fulfill.
can't rate the card otherwise.. 1 mana cycle + effect saw play in priest and it seems good as an aggro class.
We will need to see how hard is to get "outcast"
Will be weird since illidan is the hero of the class.. but it could work really the card is currently quite trash since it's nerf back in 2014.
I agree.. next time put on the title "new expansion leaked it's name and some content for the new year is available" and put a picture of something else maybe the hearthstone spiral box or something..
I don't care about spoilers I normally look for them but other people who wanted to avoid them.. it's not possible when there's a huge banner about it..
Also for next time, although the discussion is nice and I participate in it and all try to put spoiler free content..
oh well what is done is done and there is still a big part that isn't spoiled yet! so don't worry
@Theodrinus there is a lot of content coming along and a lot of details we are yet to see!
Think the class might get more cards than other classes to catch up this year only or will get more "neutral class cards"(think Hench-Clan Thug for rogue) than other classes.
I think they will support the class going forward.. HS is 6 years game it's time for a new class..
So, this is the warrior weapon from the deathknight -1 mana -5 armor -hero power change.
5 armor= 1 mana, playing a card earlier can be really strong, the class has many attack buffs to the hero so it's even stronger.
very strong card and it's in the core set (seems like it's an expansion card). 3 times half board Flamestrike as long as you have hp..
and this class is gonna need to heal a lot or have tempo to justify using such cards.