In that case this card is pretty sick! It'd be a late game play, but paired with Wrathscale Naga it could be better than when paired with Juggler, and only one more mana!
I pray for the Face of whatever Mage or Shaman devolves their Demon Hunter opponents’ minion into this! Especially if they can then play Expendable Performers, or whatever! That “fill the board with Illidari, if they die this turn do it again” card.
I fully expect Mark to play a combo deck around getting Cable Rat into a Faceless lackey to summon this 2 drop playing DH for the memes (and the Vengeance!)
Right. I was also thinking in Wild you could do something like play this on a friendly Ragnaros. The silenced 8/8 could then attack as normal and the 4/4 copy gets the Rag shot off.
Are you sure? It says "if all die", it does not specifically say "if all 7 die". I would assume you only have to kill off the ones you summoned for the repeat effect, not summon all 7 and kill them.
If you have a Knife Juggler on board, you only summon 6, so 7 can’t die to get the resummon effect. You could play it on an empty board, trade one, play Juggler, then trade the rest. Still 6 juggles!
Pretty sure it’ll only resummon them once. Otherwise it’d say “continue summoning seven more” or something like that. And I’d assume if you only have six open slots you just over paid for whatever the 5 mana summon 6 Illidari with Rush card is called.
When we see more cards for this expansion, it might make more sense. Might be more good deathrattle cards for Hunter.
Even if it’s not great immediately in standard it could boost a DR Hunter deck in Wild, or be supported by a few cards in the mini set or next year’s sets.
It may also just be that they wanted some November excitement with no BlizzCon this year. But I am also a little bummed as I will have less gold at the start of the expansion than normal. But if they get back on an April/August/December schedule I should make up for the shortage over the course of the expansion (and if the new reward track is truly as good as they are hyping it up to be).
This post kind of goes along with what I heard some devs say a long time ago (might have even been Brode) about how the RNG element of Hearthstone can almost be more skill testing. To paraphrase the comment as I remember it: Yes, the RNG factor requires luck and not skill, however, it also takes skill from the players to know their possible outs in regards to generated or discovered cards. (Or in other words, the skill is in how the player manages the environment as you said.)
Which kind of comes back to your comparison of your "bamboozle" play and picking your discovered cards in Hearthstone having three skill levels. Not always knowing what to take, but in some cases even knowing if you can play a Discover card now and just pick something that might fit my deck, or if it's more beneficial to wait until you might NEED something.
Overall, very good points in this thread from both OP and comment section. :)
Please note that when the Progression revamp goes live, all Quests (with the exception of Starter, Returning Player, and Duels Legendary Quests) will reset, so be sure to complete any old Quest you have in your log by November 11!
So the answer is no, there is no Daily Quest convertion, you will just lose it along with the gold if you keep it :/
By conversion or "porting" of quests I didn't mean carrying over what you still have in your log. I meant more if they will have the same type of quests given out or not with the new system. In other words, do you think there will be a similar quest that they give out? Challenge a friend, you both get X point towards your progression track
Theres no confirmation, but it'll still probably be better to finish up all the quests before the new system starts.
Basically there's cap. I know its possible to get 150 gold per level past that, but let's be honest; we have no idea how easy it would be to reach that cap, nor how cumbersome it would be to exceed it. Best to get the guaranteed gold while you can, even if they would be converted when the new system kicks in (which I honestly doubt would heppen)
Oh I'll definitely finish up ALL my quests the day before the launch. But I am more wondering if they might have a similar quest where you challenge a friend and both get XP instead of gold. For that we'll likely have to wait and see
I'm sure it's too early to tell, but I was wondering if anyone has heard whether or not all existing quests will be ported to the new system with appropriately adjusted XP rewards?
Specifically thinking about the Challenge a Friend for 80 gold quest that exists now as I got it today and then challenged a friend. I was thinking after how this particular quest might not be continued, and how sad that would seem. I have never personally participated in the 80g quest sharing as I have local friends I usually trade those with. But I know many people save them until they can get a trade through the forums and double their shared gold.
Would be sad to see it go. Maybe it'll still be around. But unless any specifics have been shared about if any current quests won't be ported over we'll just have to wait and see I guess.
Looking forward to trying this out in an Even Paladin build.
In that case this card is pretty sick! It'd be a late game play, but paired with Wrathscale Naga it could be better than when paired with Juggler, and only one more mana!
I pray for the Face of whatever Mage or Shaman devolves their Demon Hunter opponents’ minion into this! Especially if they can then play Expendable Performers, or whatever! That “fill the board with Illidari, if they die this turn do it again” card.
I fully expect Mark to play a combo deck around getting Cable Rat into a Faceless lackey to summon this 2 drop playing DH for the memes (and the Vengeance!)
I don’t see prize ticket. And ride ticket is already crossed off for a card featuring a game or ride.
EDIT: Oh I see it now. Yeah, should count! If not, set call back for shuffling three cast when drawn minion spells like Faldorei Strider also fits.
Right. I was also thinking in Wild you could do something like play this on a friendly Ragnaros. The silenced 8/8 could then attack as normal and the 4/4 copy gets the Rag shot off.
Just like when the Ancient One was printed. But... he was brand new!
Yeah, that's possible... I guess we wait and see.
Half cost you say?!?! Dear Gaud!!!
I’ve only had early access for one day and I can say these changes are needed.
The Prize Plunderer could be old set call back as it is similar to Spectral Pillager.
Dear God! They’ve weaponized the Epic Rarity Gem!
If you have a Knife Juggler on board, you only summon 6, so 7 can’t die to get the resummon effect. You could play it on an empty board, trade one, play Juggler, then trade the rest. Still 6 juggles!
Pretty sure it’ll only resummon them once. Otherwise it’d say “continue summoning seven more” or something like that. And I’d assume if you only have six open slots you just over paid for whatever the 5 mana summon 6 Illidari with Rush card is called.
Great target for Maxima, and a good addition to Wild DR Hunter decks, or maybe a midrange/control Mech build?!
When we see more cards for this expansion, it might make more sense. Might be more good deathrattle cards for Hunter.
Even if it’s not great immediately in standard it could boost a DR Hunter deck in Wild, or be supported by a few cards in the mini set or next year’s sets.
It may also just be that they wanted some November excitement with no BlizzCon this year. But I am also a little bummed as I will have less gold at the start of the expansion than normal. But if they get back on an April/August/December schedule I should make up for the shortage over the course of the expansion (and if the new reward track is truly as good as they are hyping it up to be).
This post kind of goes along with what I heard some devs say a long time ago (might have even been Brode) about how the RNG element of Hearthstone can almost be more skill testing. To paraphrase the comment as I remember it: Yes, the RNG factor requires luck and not skill, however, it also takes skill from the players to know their possible outs in regards to generated or discovered cards. (Or in other words, the skill is in how the player manages the environment as you said.)
Which kind of comes back to your comparison of your "bamboozle" play and picking your discovered cards in Hearthstone having three skill levels. Not always knowing what to take, but in some cases even knowing if you can play a Discover card now and just pick something that might fit my deck, or if it's more beneficial to wait until you might NEED something.
Overall, very good points in this thread from both OP and comment section. :)
By conversion or "porting" of quests I didn't mean carrying over what you still have in your log. I meant more if they will have the same type of quests given out or not with the new system. In other words, do you think there will be a similar quest that they give out? Challenge a friend, you both get X point towards your progression track
Oh I'll definitely finish up ALL my quests the day before the launch. But I am more wondering if they might have a similar quest where you challenge a friend and both get XP instead of gold. For that we'll likely have to wait and see
I'm sure it's too early to tell, but I was wondering if anyone has heard whether or not all existing quests will be ported to the new system with appropriately adjusted XP rewards?
Specifically thinking about the Challenge a Friend for 80 gold quest that exists now as I got it today and then challenged a friend. I was thinking after how this particular quest might not be continued, and how sad that would seem. I have never personally participated in the 80g quest sharing as I have local friends I usually trade those with. But I know many people save them until they can get a trade through the forums and double their shared gold.
Would be sad to see it go. Maybe it'll still be around. But unless any specifics have been shared about if any current quests won't be ported over we'll just have to wait and see I guess.