It may also just be that they wanted some November excitement with no BlizzCon this year. But I am also a little bummed as I will have less gold at the start of the expansion than normal. But if they get back on an April/August/December schedule I should make up for the shortage over the course of the expansion (and if the new reward track is truly as good as they are hyping it up to be).
This post kind of goes along with what I heard some devs say a long time ago (might have even been Brode) about how the RNG element of Hearthstone can almost be more skill testing. To paraphrase the comment as I remember it: Yes, the RNG factor requires luck and not skill, however, it also takes skill from the players to know their possible outs in regards to generated or discovered cards. (Or in other words, the skill is in how the player manages the environment as you said.)
Which kind of comes back to your comparison of your "bamboozle" play and picking your discovered cards in Hearthstone having three skill levels. Not always knowing what to take, but in some cases even knowing if you can play a Discover card now and just pick something that might fit my deck, or if it's more beneficial to wait until you might NEED something.
Overall, very good points in this thread from both OP and comment section. :)
Please note that when the Progression revamp goes live, all Quests (with the exception of Starter, Returning Player, and Duels Legendary Quests) will reset, so be sure to complete any old Quest you have in your log by November 11!
So the answer is no, there is no Daily Quest convertion, you will just lose it along with the gold if you keep it :/
By conversion or "porting" of quests I didn't mean carrying over what you still have in your log. I meant more if they will have the same type of quests given out or not with the new system. In other words, do you think there will be a similar quest that they give out? Challenge a friend, you both get X point towards your progression track
Theres no confirmation, but it'll still probably be better to finish up all the quests before the new system starts.
Basically there's cap. I know its possible to get 150 gold per level past that, but let's be honest; we have no idea how easy it would be to reach that cap, nor how cumbersome it would be to exceed it. Best to get the guaranteed gold while you can, even if they would be converted when the new system kicks in (which I honestly doubt would heppen)
Oh I'll definitely finish up ALL my quests the day before the launch. But I am more wondering if they might have a similar quest where you challenge a friend and both get XP instead of gold. For that we'll likely have to wait and see
I'm sure it's too early to tell, but I was wondering if anyone has heard whether or not all existing quests will be ported to the new system with appropriately adjusted XP rewards?
Specifically thinking about the Challenge a Friend for 80 gold quest that exists now as I got it today and then challenged a friend. I was thinking after how this particular quest might not be continued, and how sad that would seem. I have never personally participated in the 80g quest sharing as I have local friends I usually trade those with. But I know many people save them until they can get a trade through the forums and double their shared gold.
Would be sad to see it go. Maybe it'll still be around. But unless any specifics have been shared about if any current quests won't be ported over we'll just have to wait and see I guess.
It might not be meta in terms of play, but it’s situationally good. Need to clear a few taunts to have a clear path for lethal with the minions already on board? And your opponent’s taunts are all right next to each other?!?! Send in the Rabbit!!!
Team5 has said they work with the idea that every card they design now should at least be playable. And meta depending, this is. It’s not the type of card that’ll automatically see play, but as a tech card if taunt filled control decks popped up, this could win by clearing a taunt or three like I mentioned.
Are there still better options?! Probably! But it’ll likely get played by someone at some point. But not necessarily be a staple in a meta deck(s).
I’m guessing no. Spell effects like Aluneth will summon you a minion of the total cost you paid, not the card’s actual cost. Could be wrong but I believe the price you are paying dictates its trigger if it’s larger
I know they won't, but imagine if they added a few cards that buff C'Thun's stats, like the in Whispers. And then imagine that in Wild those worked with both C'Thun, the Shattered and C'Thun!
I’ll be way too slow to work, but part of me wants to do a Double C’Thun Shudderwock Combo... with double battlecries on Shudder... Is that wrong of me?! Maybe!
I don’t know... 10 mana 1/1 is a meme for sure, but 10 mana “remove three enemy minions” could be a big deal in the late game! I’m not judging this little guy until I see it in action. And not until I get my hands on a Holy Hand Grenade!!!
My guess is the only retroactive stuff will be Collection based, or overall wins for a class... The 12 wins in Arena is completing a 12-0 run, and the game doesn't really keep track of whether your past 12 win keys were 12-0, 12-1, or 12-2.
Honestly, if the xp can be earned quick enough without the pass then I think it's mainly a buy for those that want the cosmetics. I may skip it the first time, or at least wait a month to see how my progression is going before I even consider buying the pass.
I think what it's really going to come down to is how fast each level can be obtained. Sure we can get an additional 150 gold for each level after 50, but are those levels going to take dramatically longer each level? If it's not too bad and you can earn a level a day, even after 50, I'd say this is at least on par if not better than the old system.
I don't think we know that yet, but a good question to ask really. I'm still just trying to find out, do we get gold with each level 1-50 as well? It says "Gold, gold, and more gold" in the article, but I don't see anything to say how much per level other than the 150/lvl after lvl 50.
EDIT: But to answer the first half your question, it sounds like we get to choose the hero we want, yes. Which is smart since they probably know some people only play certain classes. No use awarding a Shaman portrait to someone who only plays Mage and Warlock.
My take aways from this article: It’s a great time to play Hearthstone if you enjoy playing as Paladin or Hunter!
Maybe I’m just getting bad matchups or bad draws when I tried the Highlander list in this article (or similar), but I’ve had better luck with my Pre-SA Highlander Hunter lately than the current variation.
Congrats on the Legend. I hit it the first time back in September and was playing at launch. Got mine with Even Shaman, but Odd Mage is also a favorite of mine! Been running a list slightly different from this, but might give yours a try.
It may also just be that they wanted some November excitement with no BlizzCon this year. But I am also a little bummed as I will have less gold at the start of the expansion than normal. But if they get back on an April/August/December schedule I should make up for the shortage over the course of the expansion (and if the new reward track is truly as good as they are hyping it up to be).
This post kind of goes along with what I heard some devs say a long time ago (might have even been Brode) about how the RNG element of Hearthstone can almost be more skill testing. To paraphrase the comment as I remember it: Yes, the RNG factor requires luck and not skill, however, it also takes skill from the players to know their possible outs in regards to generated or discovered cards. (Or in other words, the skill is in how the player manages the environment as you said.)
Which kind of comes back to your comparison of your "bamboozle" play and picking your discovered cards in Hearthstone having three skill levels. Not always knowing what to take, but in some cases even knowing if you can play a Discover card now and just pick something that might fit my deck, or if it's more beneficial to wait until you might NEED something.
Overall, very good points in this thread from both OP and comment section. :)
By conversion or "porting" of quests I didn't mean carrying over what you still have in your log. I meant more if they will have the same type of quests given out or not with the new system. In other words, do you think there will be a similar quest that they give out? Challenge a friend, you both get X point towards your progression track
Oh I'll definitely finish up ALL my quests the day before the launch. But I am more wondering if they might have a similar quest where you challenge a friend and both get XP instead of gold. For that we'll likely have to wait and see
I'm sure it's too early to tell, but I was wondering if anyone has heard whether or not all existing quests will be ported to the new system with appropriately adjusted XP rewards?
Specifically thinking about the Challenge a Friend for 80 gold quest that exists now as I got it today and then challenged a friend. I was thinking after how this particular quest might not be continued, and how sad that would seem. I have never personally participated in the 80g quest sharing as I have local friends I usually trade those with. But I know many people save them until they can get a trade through the forums and double their shared gold.
Would be sad to see it go. Maybe it'll still be around. But unless any specifics have been shared about if any current quests won't be ported over we'll just have to wait and see I guess.
It might not be meta in terms of play, but it’s situationally good. Need to clear a few taunts to have a clear path for lethal with the minions already on board? And your opponent’s taunts are all right next to each other?!?! Send in the Rabbit!!!
Team5 has said they work with the idea that every card they design now should at least be playable. And meta depending, this is. It’s not the type of card that’ll automatically see play, but as a tech card if taunt filled control decks popped up, this could win by clearing a taunt or three like I mentioned.
Are there still better options?! Probably! But it’ll likely get played by someone at some point. But not necessarily be a staple in a meta deck(s).
I think you meant Atiesh, but yeah.
I know they won't, but imagine if they added a few cards that buff C'Thun's stats, like the in Whispers. And then imagine that in Wild those worked with both C'Thun, the Shattered and C'Thun!
Again, they won't. But I can dream, can't I?!
I’ll be way too slow to work, but part of me wants to do a Double C’Thun Shudderwock Combo... with double battlecries on Shudder... Is that wrong of me?! Maybe!
I don’t know... 10 mana 1/1 is a meme for sure, but 10 mana “remove three enemy minions” could be a big deal in the late game! I’m not judging this little guy until I see it in action. And not until I get my hands on a Holy Hand Grenade!!!
My guess is the only retroactive stuff will be Collection based, or overall wins for a class... The 12 wins in Arena is completing a 12-0 run, and the game doesn't really keep track of whether your past 12 win keys were 12-0, 12-1, or 12-2.
Closest to a 12-0 that I've gotten was 12-0 AFTER losing my first two games... so 0-2 turned into 12-2. Does that count?! Please?!?! LOL
Definitely did. Wow I completely missed that. Good eye.
Honestly, if the xp can be earned quick enough without the pass then I think it's mainly a buy for those that want the cosmetics. I may skip it the first time, or at least wait a month to see how my progression is going before I even consider buying the pass.
I think what it's really going to come down to is how fast each level can be obtained. Sure we can get an additional 150 gold for each level after 50, but are those levels going to take dramatically longer each level? If it's not too bad and you can earn a level a day, even after 50, I'd say this is at least on par if not better than the old system.
I don't think we know that yet, but a good question to ask really. I'm still just trying to find out, do we get gold with each level 1-50 as well? It says "Gold, gold, and more gold" in the article, but I don't see anything to say how much per level other than the 150/lvl after lvl 50.
EDIT: But to answer the first half your question, it sounds like we get to choose the hero we want, yes. Which is smart since they probably know some people only play certain classes. No use awarding a Shaman portrait to someone who only plays Mage and Warlock.
The waiting screen is already getting me HYPED!!! I turn away for a moment and new shit is there!
Like a pink N’Zoth... WTF?!?!
And now it’s a boring countdown... disappointed!
My take aways from this article: It’s a great time to play Hearthstone if you enjoy playing as Paladin or Hunter!
Maybe I’m just getting bad matchups or bad draws when I tried the Highlander list in this article (or similar), but I’ve had better luck with my Pre-SA Highlander Hunter lately than the current variation.
Congrats on the Legend. I hit it the first time back in September and was playing at launch. Got mine with Even Shaman, but Odd Mage is also a favorite of mine! Been running a list slightly different from this, but might give yours a try.
C’thun’s Darkmoon Faire!