Legends of Runeterra

Everyone complaining about how there is no counter to elusive units and how the game is ruined by an "uninteresting mechanic," then threaten to quit and uninstall the game. Go do it then lol.

The issue isn't with Elusives, the issue is with your inability to understand that more likely you'll be fighting elusives and will need counter cards. So many people are currently hopping on the Bannerman express because of its round 4 power spike, and yet they complain that all the power and health in the world can't stop an Ionia deck. Guess what, YOU'RE RIGHT. What good is that when you are getting bodied by a Solitary Monk with Stand Alone and by Shadow Assassins?

So now you been known that power and health alone don't counter elusive attacks. Well you know what does, that is commonly found in every goddamn Bannerman deck? CHALLENGER UNITS, SINGLE COMBAT, and PURIFY. WOW! How many Fleet Feathertrackers (challenger) have I went against, paired with War Chefs or Laurent Chevalier (also challenger btw). You can (oh my god) CHALLENGE the elusives in battle and force them to defend!
Oh what? The enemy had enough mana for Twin Disciples or variant of a Barrier spell? Well if you were smart enough to perceive it, you should have Purify to nullify EVERYTHING.

Another fun factoid is that you can counter elusives with OTHER elusives. And Frostbite. And Vengeance. And Drain. And Noxus Guillotine. And simply having a spread out board so that they will have to defend against something or take hella damage/lethal. 

elusive is un-interactive and boring, and everyone knows it.  also shadow assassin would be fine as a 3 mana 2/2 that draws a card. u have added elusive to it as if elusive is worth 0 mana. are you stupid? are you insane? fix this garbage... thx

Got all the cards spoiled today again for you guys! Here's a video reviewing them as well: Spoiler Review

But what I really wanna know is - who else is excited to cook up some sweet mill deck strategies!? What's your thoughts on Maokai's overall design? 

Since there is no dedicated reveal thread for every card, cause the game is not as popular yet ( :( )

I want to disscuss the new cards revealed they don't seem as strong as previous cards but I think they are worth discussing.

Maokai - I already mentioned it in the article comments but he isn't playable by itself, making a 2/1 ethereal challenger for 4 mana AND summoning another unit is really weak also being a 1/4.. guess he is like heimer a champion that never attack and is a generator of sort.. but turrets for every spells is probably much much better than  a 2/1 challenger once every turn.

Also I am not that big of a believer in his effect you need to wait 4 turns for your opponent to lose, most games don't get to 10 mana anyway..

also I think tossing or killing your units 25 times is a LOT and it's certainly not easy, so dunno it comes online quite late but if you play a full controll/fatigue deck.. alright I guess. I see a potential synergy with hecarim though so who knows.. maybe he is good enough as he takes around 2 turns to really pay for itself tempowise.. at least it can block and you wouldn't feel too bad about playing him defensively as contrary to heimer.

Sap Magic- not sure really 3 mana heal everything 3 for 3 cards you would never draw anyway seems good for a fatigue deck, maybe also other decks looking for healing, healling your units is very niche in hs such effect costs 2 and heals for 6 in priest, I think that if you are not looking at tossing as an upside then this card is not worth running.

Thorny Toad - a 1/4 statline for 2 is very defensive can save you quite a lot of time looking for those removal options, specially with the heal for 2, which I think is fine in maokai decks, this probably fits such builds

Deadbloom Wanderer - a 3/2 lifesteal for 3 in hs it's garbage but here most of the time units do trade.. a 2/2 lifesteal for 3 is not that great, but one attack is probably important cause of fearsome and the 3 hp breakpoints. also toss archtype who knows..

Overgrown Snapvine - now I think this card is really interesting but VERY costly, it can create a lot of copies of itself summoning spiders.. also enable death triggers I can't wait to build around this card seems really fun.. but is it good? nah probably not.. costs too much but certainly good in sacrificial decks.

Well some changes at least.. source:

https://www.reddit.com/r/LegendsOfRuneterra/comments/fyrhoe/patch_094_accidentally_out_on_mobile/

Frenzied Skitterer 3/3 -> 3/2

Brightsteel Formation - doesn't have barrier itself anymore by default but grant it to itself via it's effect (no change)

Katarina added effect to base form : play: create a fleeting Blade's Edge (not known if to upgraded as well.. seems like not). not changing too much I think..

Yasuo 4/3-> 4/4 HUGE buff, rip meme status for yasuo.

Vanguard Bannerman - no longer buff itself (stays a 3/3 instead of being a 4/4 when it's effect tirggers)

Edit: forgot Kalista: level up 4->3 dead allies

So I just played a game where I levelled my Heimerdinger by creating two copies of one of my turrets using Dawn and Dusk. However, I think because my Heimerdinger levelled up before triggering his effect (i.e. creating a turret in hand), he did not create a turret after the spell was resolved. Has anyone experienced anything similar to this?

So far, I think this meta is well rounded, there are tons of fun and strong decks, and all of them have weakness to work out.

Hecarim stopped the onslaugth and elusives are in check thanks to Demacia raw power and Challenger units. Still, there are some few cards that will need some balance but I am not here for that today. Instead, I wanna suggest some features that should be a must:

Replay system:
We all want to watch that game where we messed up with one choice. This is a great feature that we all would enjoy.

In-game deck tracker:
I don't mind the odds and that stuff, only a basic tracker that shows the remaining cards left in your deck, as well as "graveyard" or "discarded lot" to keep track of the enemy cards.

Rope penalty: There are some players, specially in master that like to mess up when they can't keep up with the game, is not that I hate ropes, but they are annoying. 
My suggest will be a stacking penalty: For each 2 seconds you miss, you will have 1 less second in your entire next round and will stack (with a warning icon over the side of the player that is roping) to the next one until you play fast couple of rounds.


What do you think about these?

Nice

Posting this up because I haven't seen anyone mention anything in these threads yet! Hope everyone enjoys - SO EXCITED for this set to drop! Here's a video summarizing the newly spoiled cards!

My first impressions are that Scout creates another layer to the attack phase that will make it more difficult to prepare/plan for an attack to go the way that you want as the defender. As an attacker, you know have a tool to better set yourself up for success. I like how Runeterra has made it a point to make another level to the game similar to poker in trying to read what your opponent does or does not have and then trying to bait it out. I think thus far, it has done it the best of any card game I've seen and Scout just adds to that!

Otherwise, I think the remainder of the cards are all OK, but you can't fully know until the remainder of the set is out. I do think that the Elite w/ Barrier & Scout will certainly give Elites a much needed boost - hopefully they see some more support as well! 

What's everyone's thoughts on the new Scout keyword? Good? Bad? Busted?

Hi, there is something "wrong" with how blocking enemy units works in this game.

sometimes everything works normal, sometimes i can't find a reasonable explanation...or maybe I'm just missing some "basic" information.

-i block an enemy unit, the player use Whirling Death on my blocking unit, killing it and letting his unit hit face (even when i already "confirmed" the blocking)...same scenario using different removal like Get Exited!BADCARDNAME my unit still blocks the enemy unit.

-the player is attacking with Anivia "2 damage to all" + another unit, i block the other unit with a 2hp unit, the player use Might on that unit, Anivia kills my blocking unit and his Might boosted unit hit face...again same scenario with different enemy interaction and i manage to block the units even if they die to Anivia's AOE.

Is there something I'm missing ?

When someone attacks and kills the blocking creature with a spell before the ally attacks, the attacking creature then doesn't hit the enemy nexus, is this a bug or it's intended for some unknown reason?

What are some of your favorite and slightly unexpected combos?

Mine would be Zed and Single Combat. When attacking his clone is very useful for Single Combat, it's equivalent to 3 (usually) attack buff, and can actually bypass shield and (usually) frostbite.

And from a fluff perspective, it's funny that Lucianis a good combo with the Dead Isles.

If you're just here to jump on me with "git gud" or other things, stuff it.

For the rest of you, welcome! Here's why the title.

Runeterra, card economy is supremely valuable. Any card that gives you the card advantage is supremely valuable. Ruination is that on steroids.

It's never a bad draw. Ever. Either you're already winning on the battlefield in which case you're good. If you're not, it's a complete wipe of the board. And unless the opponent has been playing slow (giving just more opportunity for the ruination deck to draw said card) you'll kill pretty much everything they have.

The two exceptions are if the opponent has managed to pummel your nexus down and is playing a Piltover direct damage deck it stops an opponent dead. Since there aren't spell decks in Runeterra. (Yes, there are ones that focus more on spells but they're all still also creature focused.) Or if they have Deny the (literally) one card in the entire game that counters it. 

It only costs 9. That's by sixth turn. And unless the opponent is playing a facedeck you'll get there.

Also, it's shadow isles, easy to put together a deck that is literally meant to throw away it's own units (or automatically get them back on death.)

I'm all for balancing things, I just can't think of any way to make Ruination not stupidly overpowered. Making it cost 13 would help, but it'd still be a soft "I win" button.

This is a thread made to discuss how to counter spells and unit skills, as well as spell and unit damage. Ranging from how to deal with a certain Champion no matter which region deck your playing, to how to stop spells when you don't have Deny because you just don't always want to use freaking Ionia decks.

Notes: Since there are LOADS of counters to cards, for the sake of space and time, I won't do combo card moves. i.e.: Use Glimpse Beyond to kill an ally in order to use Black Spear on an enemy. Those combo moves are up to you to either post here or figure out in-game.

Figured I'd be honest in the title.

After playing almost nothing but expeditions over the last 2 weeks, I've come to the conclusion on two things.

1) Elusive is broken when able to be spammed.  Nothing new to the forums, it's a counter intuitive mechanic that forces people to either draft elusives in their trials, or to draft more removal spells than normal.  It doesn't help that removal spells also double as champion removal, and what you get is people building decks with (not joking) 6x Mystic shots (and no, ezreal didnt generate them either, yes that person drafted 6 mystic shots)

2) Shrooms are FAR too easy to stack.  I've seen people spam shrooms in non-teemo decks and win purely through attrition.  Throw in the fact that if you manage to hit with an upgraded teemo JUST ONE, you're pretty much guaranteed to lose to that Teemo deck.

There's just no coming back from a deck of 22 cards, that have 50 shrooms.  It's just WAY too easy to stack shrooms in decks.  The number of shrooms on the cards needs to be reduced.

• The Mushroom Burst card that inserts 5  shrooms ---> Changed to 4 Shrooms.
• The Mushroom Peddler card that inserts 3 shrooms when you cast a spell needs to either have his stats nerfed or his effect nerfed.  A 3/3 with a spell effect like that is far too strong, especially in decks that can stack shrooms or have a goal to stack shrooms.  He either needs to be a 2/2 (or possibly 2/3) or the effect needs to be Insert 1 shroom instead of 3 (and he can keep his 3/3 stats, but even then I think that's still broken)
• The Chump Wump card that gives you two mushroom bursts in hand.  A  4 cost 4/3 that gives you two mushroom bursts, that synergize with the aforementioned peddler.  Granted a 4/3 for 3 is sub-par starts so I think his stats are fine, but he should only create ONE single mushroom burst, not two in hand.

In short,  in expeditions where you can't guarantee removal, lifesteal, challenger, or elusive cards, it's just far too easy for shroom decks to be abused.   I literally am getting PTSD from teemo all over again (back when I played League) just thinking about the shroom spam and how annoying it is.   Just like in league, it's not a great tactic usually (i.e.. constructed) but it's such an annoying strategy that it boils down to player reactions.  

Someone plays the correct burst spells and destroys a minion, or survives my minion's damage.  That's skill,  and play/counterplay options like that in Runeterra is fantastic.  Definitely a better interactive play style than Hearthstone.  But affecting players cards has been always will be a "feels bad man" moment.  Inserting shrooms that you can't do ANYTHING about, even if they are delayed is a horrible balance decision.  It's most likely balanced in constructed, cause I don't see a ton of teemo/shroom spammers there.  But in expeditions It's decidedly an unfair situation...which brings me back to my title.

Either teemo/shrooms need to get reworked, or special balancing needs to occur for expeditions given that Legends of Runeterra is more finely tuned to snowballing out of control than other current card games.  /end rant.

i get 6  trades on expeditions before the last battle  a long time ago but now i get like 3 or 4 does anyone know what makes the difference? i would like to max my trades if possible, thanks in advance.

Hello there, I am new to the game and I got some questions

hoping someone would help me with them :) 

1 : what is the QuickAttack ? I read what it says, but I can't seem to see any difference from normal cards ?

2 : What is a discard ?

3 : How to counter Tryndamere ? I might be wrong but, isn't the idea of leveling up when you die a bit too powerful ? How do I win against him ?

Thanks.

Howdy!

I'm pretty new to card games generally. Always wanted to try one out, but I always felt overwhelmed by number of decks, strategies etc. So when I've heard that new one is coming out and it is going to be launched by a company that really delivers, when promise that their game is free to play, I jump immideitly :) And I felt for it from the start :)

I do have one big problem tho... It's about mulligan system. I don't think anything triggers me more than drawing a card I just discarded during mulligan phase. Don't you think you should be protected from this kind of situation. I feel like mulligan system is the only way you can prepare yourself for upcoming match after you can see what kind of deck your opponent is probably playing. For example you run control deck and face aggro, so you definitely don't want to start with a "warmother's call" in your hand. You dicard it and boom - it's in your hand again :/ I really feel like this shouldn't happen. I even think you should be protected to draw it in first round, so when you discard a card in mulligan phase, you are sure that it won't be in your starting hand...

What do you think about it? Also I'm really curious how does it work in other card games... I can imagine it would be hard to implement in real live card game, but LoR never aim to be one, I believe...

I am 15k shards away from obtaining all 3 copies of every card, it will take around 600h of play over 2 and half months.
I played mostly ranked games and only spent expedition tokens from chests.

I believe the same is achivable by playing around 400h-500h or maybe even less then that by just focusing on quests, first win of the day, weekly chests and expeditions, but gaming less means it will take over a longer period of time to complete (5 months+)

i'll let you know once i get there, but i am planning to slow down a bit from now.


TLDR; Full collection = less then 600h of gameplay.