Legends of Runeterra

But why? It works the exact same as before. Also half of 1 is not 0, maybe these devs didnt get past 6th grade?

Sup everyone!

So I recently started playing with this deck a bit the last week or so (which is about how new this deck is as well) and not only is it STUPID easy to pilot but it will also help you ladder FAST! Not sure if anyone here has had a chance to play it yet? If not, here's a video on the decklist and some games: Zombie Garen Deck Guide.

My question is, do you think this deck will actually last as a #1 mid-range option or is this just a result of the current meta BEFORE the patch changes that were just announced today? I just feel like this deck is too simple and too one-sided as far as strategy is concerned to see any true longevity in competitiveness. What's everyone think!? 

So I had a thought earlier. If nothing but The Undying is played and killed repeatedly and then The Harrowing is played does it fill your board with  The Undyings or does it just summon one undying?

Hey guys!  I've been having a lot of fun on ladder with this deck, and I thought I would share it because one of the key cards, The Rekindler, is ~80% likely to get nerfed tomorrow.  (Side note: if you're missing cards, wait until after the patch notes before crafting any of the expensive stuff!)  The basic core is the same Champion -> Rekindler -> The Harrowing stuff you've probably seen a million times with Hecarim.  Here's where things get fun, though: we do it with Ashe.  If you've played her, you know how frustrating it is to keep her alive...well, we're totally OK if she dies!  The goal is to get at least 3 in the res pool with and at least 2 points of progression, then on our attack turn we play The Harrowing and attack all-in: the legion of Ashe will frostbite most of their board, level up, AND prevent any frostbitten units from blocking!  But the catch is: you need enough board space for the summoning, so you actually need things to die off first--I actually lost games this evening because I didn't block "bad enough" the turn and had some 3/3 spiders instead of bigger units.

Anyways, its a lot of fun, it's very off-meta, and I think most opponents have no idea what you're doing so you can surprise them.  If you have the cards (or don't mind spending a few wild cards), definitely give it a spin before the Tuesday patch.

One of the major problems with elusives is that they cut down on the interactivity within the game, and early elusives can just keep hitting your nexus every turn with no way to prevent it. However, elusives do serve a purpose of providing direct nexus damage to close out games, which needs to be preserved in a rework of the elusive keyword.

My solution would be to change elusive to “This unit strikes the enemy nexus before its blocker, if the blocker does not have elusive”

This way, elusives would always be able to get at least one hit on the enemy nexus, but they would be vulnerable to being removed by enemy units. It also still keeps the flavor of elusive because it would be like the elusive units are able to evade their blocker and hit the enemy nexus first. The main issue I see with this is that champions like Teemo and Ezreal wouldn’t work as well, so these champions could be reworked or given “can only be blocked by elusives” instead of elusive.

I wonder what are those. My guess will be that these are kinda the thing used by Mowgai or Swim that makes you look the hp that the enemy will lose after the combat phase or to see the hole splash art of the cards.

Also, anyone here use any of those?

What do you all think Riot will do to her in the next patch, since they mentioned her by name?

Right now her problems are: She's too reliant upon her bonded, she's a fearsome 3 drop when other 3 power cards are coming out, she can't be played alone (wants a bonded unit), her bonded can be recalled thereby making her the only champion that can be 'purified' denying her her full abilities alongside being very frail.

By most games I have used her in, almost never use her turn 3 unless there's a really good unit to play her on making her actually be a turn 4-5 unit.

The bonded issue could be solved by her wording changed to "I bond with the strongest unit. Bonded is granted +2/+0". Or making it so the bond persists even if the unit is recalled (pulling it from your hand in case of the level up).

As for the rest maybe a rule change on fearsome?

Fearsome could be changed from "Can't be blocked by a unit 2 power or less" to "Can't be blocked by a unit less than or equal to it's power."

Gives them a new thing to play around with and makes cards like Tryndamere, Legion General, Cithria the Bold, and Trifarion Shieldbreaker more interesting to play as well.

What do you all think? I enjoy reading these forums and they have been helping my own gameplay.

Hi,

i just had a situation where smart ordering of spells would have granted me lethal with Lux' Final Sparks, but the expected behaviour did not occur, leaving me quite frustrated, since i cannot rely on simple logic to solve complex game states in order to win games.

This was the scenario:

Opponent: attacks with 4 (barriered) units and plays judgement against my blockers. He is at 4 health and 0 mana. After blocking, i would survive his attack. 2 of his barriered units had 2 health (so 2 sparks could kill his Nexus if done correctly).

Me: Lux on board, at 4/6. Spells in hand: Single Combat (2), Deny (4) and Twin Disc (3). I have enough mana to play them all.

So my idea for lethal was the following:

- one of his barriered 2-health units is blocked and will survive the attack

- the other barriered 2-health unit is unblocked and will survive the attack as well

- cast Single Combat on one of his barriered units, this will make my Lux progress go to 6/6, giving me the first Final Spark

- cast Deny against his Judgement, this will then bring my Lux progress from 0/6 to 4/6

- cast Twin Disc on some shit to make my Lux progress go to 6/6 again, giving me the second Final Spark

- after the attack, cast both Final Sparks in his 2-health units for lethal (4 health Nexus)

The Spell Stack (from left to right) looked the following:

1. my Single Combat (played AFTER Deny)

2. my Deny against Judgement (played BEFORE Single Combat)

3. his Judgement, being denied

So in theory, the order of spell execution should be correct, right?

- Single Combat is executed first, updating my Lux's progress to 6/6 and giving me a Final Spark.

- Then Deny is executed, updating the progress from 0/6 to 4/6

But what actually happened was that my Lux's progress somehow was at 0/6 after both spells were executed, not at 4/6 as expected.

Is this a bug? Or is there some behaviour that i missed or dont know?

I'm new to LoR, but I found it really confusing for the interaction of skills and fast spells. I think, intuitively, if the fast spell kills the unit with the skill, the skill shouldn't trigger. Obviously that's not true in LoR. Once in Expedition game 7, I held on to a Vengeance hoping to surprise kill opponent's Vladimir when he attacks with his Crimson crew. However, even though he was killed that way, his skill still triggered which killed me exactly to 0 health. This interaction makes skill simply a fast spell attached to a unit but somehow can still trigger after the unit is dead.

Anyone else wish they can change the interaction to be: "skills won't trigger if the unit is dead before the skill is cast" ?

I'm playing the same frostbite decks 80% of the time and its not fun without having any variety of what i'm playing against. 

Katarina is one of my favorite champions and I have been experimenting with her, even in most ridiculous situations (Teemo/Katarina :D)

Some of you guys might not know the Ephemeral interaction of Katarina so I wanted to share it here.

When you give Katarina, Mark of the Isles she won't die after she attacks and levels-up and comes back to your hand. Same with Oblivious Islander and Stirred Spirits.




So;
- You can use Oblivious Islander to reduce her cost to (2) for early upgrade posibility.
- You can use Stirred Spirits to make her more threatining with +2 Attack.
- You can use Mark of the Isles against frostbites or Removals (not against Vengeance) to save Katarina on your attack turn so she will be leveled-up. Works on your defend phase as well if she wouldn't die with the damage.
- One of the best is; You can use Shark Chariot with ephemeral Katarina to spawn Shark Chariots whenever you Rally !

I don't think you still don't know about Whirling Death/Single Combat - Katarina interactions but for new players and players who doesn't know these interactions yet, you can level-up Katarina with those combat tricks as well.

Some of the decks I was experimenting with this ephemeral interactions;

Katarina/Undying
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Katarina/Hecarim
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I hope it helps your deckbuilding and experimenting and enjoyement.

I have completed all of the region rewards today.



After I have completed regions, I wanted to try if it give me any additional reward and joined a game and instantly surrendered and saw this screen.



What I saw is "The Season Road Level" but it seems it isn't active right now unfortunately because the experience point from the game didn't fill the bar but it continues to fill the bar of your weekly vault.

Well, I completed the whole set but I've thought that i could save some resources for future after i completed regional rewards and i did learnt earlier that there is the "Season Road Level" mistakenly by forgetting to change one of my completed regions. It had didn't fill the bar that time aswell but i guessed that it was just because i didn't complete other regions. Now I'm sure of that it won't fill season road level anymore.

This might be a hint for official release btw. There will probably be Season Road Level that doesn't seem active right now. It might be either like a "Battle Pass" system for any other game around, paid level system; or might be a free-to-play friendly system that will continue to reward players who completes regional rewards. I really don't know if anyone around web knows something about this content.

Do you think that this should be corrected for open beta?

I personally think that it shouldn't be because of solved meta at first day of the next expansion but well, I will continue to open my weekly vaults until next expansion comes and i will be saving so much Expedition Tokens + Shards because I won't play expeditions anymore just because I have completed the set so correcting this might not help for solved meta situations. I will probably have enough resource to craft some useful stuff at first day without this "Season Road Level" thing with all of those free Expedition Tokens and Shards because all of cards that I will get from Weekly Vaults turns into shards right now and it will be huge amount of Expedition Tokens from Weekly Vaults. If we calculate superficially and guess like the game will be released on June at best; it will be like;
1x Expedition Token per week => 17 Expedition Tokens that will give me 17 Champions at June.

Also I will be able to purchase Wildcards per week so it means that 3x per week => 39 Champion Wildcards until June. Right now we have 72 Champions. That means a paid player will be able to save 56 Champion wildcards right now if he/she completed the whole set. Riot said that they will bring one region on next expansion and that expansion also will bring 2x different champions to existing regions. That means new region will come with 6 champions. So math says;

6x3 = 18 new region champion cards + 2x6x3 = 36 existing region champion cards = 54 new champion cards. So if i will purchase all of the wildcards, I will be able to complete whole champions at first day of the Expansion if it hits on June.

If it will be how Riot says, People will save 16 Expedition Tokens which means 16 champions per 4 months.

I don't think that Riot will release a new expansion before the game officially released and they said that they will try to release the game before first half of the year so I'm assuming that my calculations are accurate enough according to what Riot said at open beta release video.

I really wonder what do you think about these situations. A healthy discussion might help both community and developers if they are following here. :)

Note: Btw, I have played free-to-play completely, didn't buy any wildcards. Sitting on 5k Shards but no Wildcards. I have spent all of my Wildcards to complete to set so It took 2 months and 2 weeks to complete to set with playing f2p completely.

Edit: I've edit so much stuff on this OP and added some calculations about Wildcards. I hope you who read before, re-read if you are interested. Sorry for that. :)

Edit2: Well, I really don't know why I've skipped this but I will be able to use those Expedition tokens 3x per week, so that means I will only guarantee my Expedition runs will be free with saving them but I really think that I can craft most of the champions with my saved shards. So the best way of saving should be x9 tokens i guess. I will play x3 per week and get 1x per week. With saving x9 tokens, I will guarantee my Expeditions will be free whole time I guess;

Have 9x - Spent 3x + get 1x = 7x
Have 7x - Spent 3x + get 1x = 5x
Have 5x - Spent 3x + get 1x = 3x
Have 3x - Spent 3x + get 1x = 1x
12 Total Champions from Expeditions in a month, I'm assuming I will get some champion cards from Weekly Vault + Regional Rewards (I'm also assuming that new regions will come with their own regional reward tree and Existing ones will expand or reset at some point with newer cards.) .
So it will take 1,5 - 2 months to complete sets again and start to save for next expansion in my opinion if anything about economy system won't change.

The patch a week from tomorrow is supposed to be a hard-hitting balance update. What are your hopes and dreams for it? What will be nerfed? What will be buffed? What will be totally redesigned?

There is already a thread about HecarimBADCARDNAME, the low-hanging fruit of this topic, so let's take that one as given and not bother discussing it here.

Besides he-who-must-not-be-named, what else do you expect to see changed?

I'll start! Even though I'm seeing more Kalista lately, she still doesn't seem good ... like, at all. I wonder if she might see a buff.

Hello, I recently got Masters and wanted to try to get it again on my new account. I've noticed many mistakes on newer players in many cases where I would have lost. This game is mainly on putting many hours into it. Understanding every card/deck combinations. I somewhat know what my enemy will play before he even plays it.

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Hecarim must be the must valuable card in the entire game atm. You can splash anything with SI just to slip him under de sleeve. It's time to let him go and try new stuff.

It was discussed previously, but we need to adress how strong the card is ON TOP of how strong the fation operates with him. 

I will talk ONLY about Hecarim and not mention the other cards that should be watched like The Rekindler couse I will miss the point.

Hecarim must to be way expensive but Im not sure if that will solve the other issues. Overwhelm is unnecesary in his stage 1, it just adds absurd value. And his stage 2 it is super conditional to get into, and tbh is just a winmore stage.

Hecarim should get overwhelm when he level up, other wise Riders should be 2/1 or ONE Rider 4/2 with overwhelm

Alternative is make Hecarim less beefy, but I am not a fan of touching his numbers, just removimg overwhelm and touch the riders.

I was just wondering and searching how to get most of the XP per day and I stumble across the winning trades with friends. Clearly, I have no friends in LoR right now. If anyone would like to add me to do this trades, I would really much appreciate. I can only trade around 8am-3pm, depends on how my schedule looks for the day.

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 i faced a deck with only zed as a champ in EXPS, do anyone know if it is possible or is a bug ?  i cant find a way for this to be possible on my own XD

The game felt like such a slug before this patch.. now wow.. you can finish 2 games in the time it took you to finish one before.. the speed up is incredible noticeable.. sure it feels less epic.. and it's a bit too quick at times (Wonder how it feels for a new player(?)) but damn the game now runs quick..

if someone quit just cause the game felt slow for them I really recommend them to try the game again.

after a completely abysmal performance of going 0-2 and then 1-2 and facing a lot of constructed decks (last opponent had Zed/Hecarim, no lie, and Hecarim straight on curve)...I turn to you guys for help or guidance.   It just seems to me that drafting curve and synergy isn't enough and that there's quite a bit of rng/luck involved.....but then again I'm often completely wrong. 

Help?

This is not a thinly veiled salt thread; I am legitimately asking for help, please do not downvote this thread.