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I'm finding myself in the middle of another meta where no viable deck appeals to me and statistically speaking I have a 50-50 chance of having one I like around this time in the next expansion as well.

I've never understood why the bulk of the Hearthstone population doesn't feel more cheated when metas settle and only 5-10% of the cards released see play at all. It's no different then buying a footlong sandwich from a Subway and taking two bites then throwing it away!

These are cards good money was spent on or excitement was had awaiting them and then *poof!*, have fun getting beat by the 3 or 4 decks that work if you want to play them. Wait forever to open a Legendary and chances are it stinks. Greedy big effect card? Ha, good luck it'll do anything.

To me it just reeks of laziness that is only allowed bc the community doesn't urge them on buffing cards more: they've shown some indication of wanting to buff cards but imho it's miserably short every time. 

Pencils have erasers for a reason and squeeky wheels get the oil. I would seriously raise your voice (which equals $ to them) on trying to get this game away from the robotic states it always falls into. My solution? At least monthly buffs and nerfs. Shake up the metas and have something to look forward to every month.

You also missed that Holy Nova can now hit the enemy hero again.

This all seems great and I am honestly all for a new Core set. I doubt I'll play Classic mode much, but it'll be interesting to see what Hearthstone was like before I started playing at the Blackrock launch.

However, there's one thing I don't understand. They seem to imply, by saying that they will give us the Core cards for free and then "swap" them for the new Core set next year, that we will not keep our copies of the Core cards that we didn't already have. So when the 2021 Core set rotates, will I have to craft those 29 new cards if I want to play them in Wild, even though I've been playing them for 2 years in Standard? I get that Blizzard don't want to keep giving us a bunch of free cards every year that we keep forever, but that seems needlessly confusing and unfairly detrimental for Wild players (assuming any of these Core cards have the power-level to make them still relevant in Wild 2 years after they come out, of course).

The meta will definitely change compared to vanilla, but my guess is that it'll be aggro galore. Leper, Abusive Sergeant, Leeroy, much more charge... Call me a pessimist, but if Duels lost so much of a playerbase in one expansion because of bad balance, Classic will be like that but also unfun.

I hadn’t thought about Xavius.  Could they possibly have two versions?!  Xavius for all modes other than Classic, but Illidan in the Classic format?  I mean, some of these cards are already “mirrored copies” or however they referred to them.  Take Leeroy for example.  Pretty sure he’s staying 5 mana in Wild but will be 4 mana in Classic mode.  So that means he’s technically a different card in Classic mode.  No reason Illidan/Xavius couldn’t co-exist (kind of)

I've been trying to come up with a Talritha deck for a bit. Love the idea of this and am testing around

I am not sure, but I think you missed Wild Growth

We actually discussed it before publishing the article but apparently we didn't edit it out. For once, I'm not the one to be blamed lol

Edit: there you go.

Looks like I'm currently missing a few hall of fame cards (Captain's Parrot x2, Elite Tauren Chieftain, Gelbin Mekkatorque) and a few "new" classic cards (Icicle, Natalie). If I open my classic packs now, I have a chance of getting the "new" classic cards I'm missing, but miss out on the chance of getting the hall of fame ones I'm missing. If I wait, the only way to get the "new" ones will be to craft them, but I'll have the chance of getting the hall of fame ones from Classic packs again. The tricky part is, the three hall of fame cards I'm missing weren't originally in Classic Packs (they were in the Rewards/Promo sets), so will they suddenly be available in Classic packs after the Hall of Fame disappears, or will the simply remain only craftable?

Thank you for summarising all the nerfs over the years! The list is a bit inaccurate though. Since the cards will revert to their version from the patch just before Naxx, Unleash the Hounds will remain at 3 mana.

1. all basic cards will be dustable, and of common qulality

2. No need to level heroes, the blog says that if you unlocked wild before the patch, you recieve all golden and non golden basic cards.

I don't know how well it will go. But I'm absolutely glad for the Classic format.

I'll get that Hearthstone back, what I hopelessly loved. Which was simple, but great, and when random factors where at pretty healthy levels.

I thank you, very much. As well as the extra deck slots, true that they could be 100 total. Pardon, Wild player here. :) Old School Miracle Rogue, here I come.

I always wait for sets to rotate out of standard before dusting duplicates (in case of nerfs), but now I'll finally be able to dust classic duplicates too (or legacy as they'll be known).  I guess I can do it now since they said no nerfs but I'll wait anyway.

I wonder if basic cards that will all become legacy will be dustable or still marked as uncraftable/non-dustable?  Probably the latter but if not, makes sense to level any classes to get golden basic cards you don't have which is lots in my case because some classes I pretty much don't play.

"Here-we-go. :)"

I mean, it's presumably going to be the same exact format forever without any balance changes or additions. There's gonna be a handful of best decks that will remain the best decks for eternity. It's bound to die off and my guess is it'll happen pretty quickly. Honestly I don't think they thought the idea through very much.

I'm shocked to see no one discussing exactly how many cards we are losing. Basic, with the 10 Demon Hunter cards was 143 total cards, Classic without any Demon Hunter cards was 240, so it could have had 255 if they had truly made a Classic Demon Hunter set like they said they planned to before making this announcement. The new Core Set will only have 235 cards, that means the grand total of possible options is being cut from 398 down to 235. That's a loss of 163 cards. Now don't get me wrong, many many cards in Basic and Classic aren't viable constructed options, but let's be real, many cards from every set aren't really viable constructed options either, so even if they greatly increase the number of viable options overall will it outweigh those missing cards? That's more cards than a standard expansion just gone.

That also means that cards that generate cards, at least in Standard are going to have a much much smaller variance of power, if the base strength is naturally higher and all the terrible cards from Basic and Classic are purged it could create even more issues than ever before with randomly generated effects taking precedence. We already see things like Mana Cyclone in Mage and Sethekk Veilweaver in Priest almost making high cost high value cards unnecessary as generating large amounts of random cards is better. When you narrow that pool of options and make it more powerful it makes cards like those better while making the cards they actually generate less likely to be included in decks directly.

I do think the changes overall are great. I think returning cards is great. I think a few Core set is great. I think there might be negatives to a smaller, more powerful pool of cards moving forward considering Blizzards general approach to making Hearthstone about moments and randomness and excitement, instead of truly balanced gameplay.

No, Classic is its own thin

so wild will have everything even the unnerfed cards?

what's "sunshine hunter"? I don't think I've heard of this term before

Started reading but when it became apparent I could open hoarded Classic packs had to login and start smashing space bar!  OK done, reading complete.

A 2014 classic game mode is interesting, but will it have the player base to avoid queuing for 10+ mins or facing same few opponents over and over once initial interest wanes?

Art changes weren't nerfs or buffs to cards, they were changes made based on art direction and dealing with potential outrage for a game they are marketing towards children and other cultures with different standards of censorship. If you somehow mistakenly believe that cards that were changed statistically but also got art changes won't be reverted to their vanilla functionality that isn't true. All non-art modification, be they nerfs or buffs, though basically nothing was every buffed, will be reverted for Classic mode, they just aren't going to go back to supporting the original art elements.

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You mean to tell me, that I've been holding onto Classic packs for no GODDAMN REASON?!?!?!

To be fair, there was never any goddamn reason, so ...

Wrong!  The reason was that I have a full Classic collection and was expecting a Classic set rework, not a replacement  via a Core set.  If they had gone with a rework, meaning new cards in those Classic packs, I essentially would just get the new cards by opening those saved packs via the new no duplicates rule.  If this had been the case, I would then get most of the new cards immediately without crafting or spending $ or gold.

Instead, with today's announcement they are just dust, including the Cairne I opened today.  But that's okay too because I now have almost 115 packs worth of gold and over 16,000 dust for next expansion.  And still likely another month or more of leveling to collect more gold for packs!  So that's nice!

classic? hoarded? why?