I realy don't get why so many players want to see Divine Spirit to go to the Hall of Fame. I mean i haven't seen that card in play for almost a year now .... at least not since the release of DoD - so i do not see a problem - or am i missing something?
Simply because of future cards and what this card would do? maybe i'm a little sentimental about that card because Priest was my first golden Hero and is my favourite class and maybe that's why i do not see this as a problem.
So far i have no idea which card should be Hof`D ... maybe Backstab - i have to think about that a little :)
Combo Priest was a T1 deck just recently during SoU. That deck was about abusing the Divine Spirit/Inner Fire combo.
The problem is it is the only win condition for Priest, and one that has existed since Vanilla. Not to mention the restrictions to card design that this card creates.
Yes it was a T1 deck - so were others - but right now (since DoD) that card has not seen any play.
Quest/Rezz Priest sees lots of play with other win conditions so i guess Divine Spirit is not that problematic as many think. But i understand if they would HoF it because of future cards but right now i simply do not see it as a problem :)
Even tough i like it i also think Alexstrasza could be a HoF candidate!
The problem is not being a tier one deck, it's being a one dimensional cycle fest that essentially breaks cards that would be fine otherwise.
Case in point: Extra Arms. The moment that thing got buffed Priest spiralled out of control because now they had a consistent early game plan and a basically inevitable finisher.
Divine Spirit makes it so Priest can never get any good buff cards, because the moment they do it's the automatic best choice to build around. If Divine Spirit was gone then maybe the ever so fickle tempo priest could be a thing again without having to cheese wins through instant OTKs
Divine Spirit with the power of Inner Fire (whish is also one of my hof noms) preist will be able to cheese games which if you dont have silence cards your screwed its just an unfair combo that ruins preist as a class
Malygos i have nothing against malygos but otk decks exist and malygos is a catylyst of these decks also it limith the experimentation of spell damage cards yes there being made in the expansion but other cards that could have spell damage might've been scrapped by malygos
ive been seriously playing heathstone only this year so i dont know so much about hof and i hope hearthstone will make the right choice
Currently you need to open 30 packs from the most recent expansion to get all of the perks of the battlegrounds beta. Thats not very hard to do being f2p at all. Maybe they will add more perks for higher amount of packs purchased.
isnt it 20 packs?
10 packs for stats, 20 for 3 heros and 30 for emotes. The last one dosnt seem necessary but its there
The text of Mageseeker Investigator is ambiguous. "Cast" is intended as past tense here, which is fine, but it could be taken to mean "if you cast a spell later."
Obviously, if you give it some thought, it would be very strange if it worked that way, but new players aren't known for giving anything any thought.
This can all be cleared up if they just change it to: "If you have cast a spell ..."
The year of the dragon unnerf will probably be one of Shaman's Galakrond cards, seeing how they nerfed that archetype into the ground and the deck is losing even more cards in the rotation. I'm guessing Dragon's Pack will be reverted
"Deal 4 damage to a unit. If that unit dies, deal excess damage to the enemy Nexus"
Sorry if this sounds nitpicky, but I'd like to point out that "If that unit dies" is a problematic way of wording it; after all, the excess damage applies to the nexus in full if the unit is removed (e.g. recalled) by other means before Final Spark resolves.
In general, however, I think your idea is sound.
I respect the intent, but the proposed change does nothing to circumvent the perceived problem with fizzle (a perception I still do not share).
At issue is the fact that, upon Karma's second casting of the spell, there is no unit at all. At that point, you're not talking about "excess damage"; you're talking about all the damage, from a targeted spell that lacks a target.
Accepting a novel definition of Overwhelm fixes this, but "if that unit dies/is removed" does not, because the unit is already gone before the spell is cast, and this wording says nothing about not fizzling when the spell lacks a target.
If one honestly accepts fizzle consistency as a problem here, one cannot honestly accept this wording as a solution. The real solution to that "problem" would be a much wordier card requiring a far pickier level of rules detail than any card should ever have.
Unnerfing Raza the Chained would be a nice boost for priest in wild as that class is struggling pretty hard and would add an additional good warlock counter.
One MUST be Yogg. The rest is really up in the air... From the Year of the Raven, the most likely could be Giggling Inventor and Dr. Boom, Mad Genius and Raiding Party. I can't really pinpoint any good candidate for the Year of the Dragon... Maybe Archivist Elysiana?
Either way, I'm glad they're doing this sort of things, this is really what the game needs and what Wild needs.
I am so nervous they're going to choose one of the most frustrating Year of the Dragon cards to unnerf. Here's to them unnerfing like Sludge Slerper or something.
2020 Hall of Fame Predictions
The problem is not being a tier one deck, it's being a one dimensional cycle fest that essentially breaks cards that would be fine otherwise.
Case in point: Extra Arms. The moment that thing got buffed Priest spiralled out of control because now they had a consistent early game plan and a basically inevitable finisher.
Divine Spirit makes it so Priest can never get any good buff cards, because the moment they do it's the automatic best choice to build around. If Divine Spirit was gone then maybe the ever so fickle tempo priest could be a thing again without having to cheese wins through instant OTKs
2020 Hall of Fame Predictions
Heres my ideah for hof
Divine Spirit with the power of Inner Fire (whish is also one of my hof noms) preist will be able to cheese games which if you dont have silence cards your screwed its just an unfair combo that ruins preist as a class
Malygos i have nothing against malygos but otk decks exist and malygos is a catylyst of these decks also it limith the experimentation of spell damage cards yes there being made in the expansion but other cards that could have spell damage might've been scrapped by malygos
ive been seriously playing heathstone only this year so i dont know so much about hof and i hope hearthstone will make the right choice
Future Plans hype?
10 packs for stats, 20 for 3 heros and 30 for emotes. The last one dosnt seem necessary but its there
10 Hearthstone Cards are Having Their Nerfs Reverted Including a Year of the Dragon Card
0 chance of unnerfing Apothecary. That card completely dominated the meta and would do so even without Necrium Blade
Mageseeker Investigator wording
Yea, more card wording!
The text of Mageseeker Investigator is ambiguous. "Cast" is intended as past tense here, which is fine, but it could be taken to mean "if you cast a spell later."
Obviously, if you give it some thought, it would be very strange if it worked that way, but new players aren't known for giving anything any thought.
This can all be cleared up if they just change it to: "If you have cast a spell ..."
10 Hearthstone Cards are Having Their Nerfs Reverted Including a Year of the Dragon Card
Boom was already confirmed
The year of the dragon unnerf will probably be one of Shaman's Galakrond cards, seeing how they nerfed that archetype into the ground and the deck is losing even more cards in the rotation. I'm guessing Dragon's Pack will be reverted
10 Hearthstone Cards are Having Their Nerfs Reverted Including a Year of the Dragon Card
I swear if they un-nerf sea witch I will wear a tutu to work for all to see.
10 Hearthstone Cards are Having Their Nerfs Reverted Including a Year of the Dragon Card
For the year of the raven I think thewill unnerf: Reckless Experimenter, Extra Arms, Raiding Party and Dr. Boom, Mad Genius
Wild: Undertaker, Leeching Poison, The Caverns Below, Bonemare, Call of the Wild
Dragon: Necrium Apothecary
10 Hearthstone Cards are Having Their Nerfs Reverted Including a Year of the Dragon Card
#UnnerfRaza waiting room for some more Machine Gun Priest
Is Final Spark / Karma interactions intended?
I respect the intent, but the proposed change does nothing to circumvent the perceived problem with fizzle (a perception I still do not share).
At issue is the fact that, upon Karma's second casting of the spell, there is no unit at all. At that point, you're not talking about "excess damage"; you're talking about all the damage, from a targeted spell that lacks a target.
Accepting a novel definition of Overwhelm fixes this, but "if that unit dies/is removed" does not, because the unit is already gone before the spell is cast, and this wording says nothing about not fizzling when the spell lacks a target.
If one honestly accepts fizzle consistency as a problem here, one cannot honestly accept this wording as a solution. The real solution to that "problem" would be a much wordier card requiring a far pickier level of rules detail than any card should ever have.
10 Hearthstone Cards are Having Their Nerfs Reverted Including a Year of the Dragon Card
Unnerfing Raza the Chained would be a nice boost for priest in wild as that class is struggling pretty hard and would add an additional good warlock counter.
10 Hearthstone Cards are Having Their Nerfs Reverted Including a Year of the Dragon Card
10 Hearthstone Cards are Having Their Nerfs Reverted Including a Year of the Dragon Card
Just a few days ago they said they won't touch Wild Balances or anything like it.
What's this?
I guess the Dragon Card being reverted comes from Shaman. Either Corrupt Elementalist or Dragon's Pack
and one of the wild cards is Patches the Pirate getting "Rush" mechanic.
I don't know much about Raven's cards.
10 Hearthstone Cards are Having Their Nerfs Reverted Including a Year of the Dragon Card
0 chance that Faceless Corruptor is getting unnerfed.
You also missed every single card from the latest balance patch, among many more...
10 Hearthstone Cards are Having Their Nerfs Reverted Including a Year of the Dragon Card
PRAISE BE to our Lord and Savior Yogg-Saron, Hope's End!
[Game] Card Treasure Hunt (The Resurrection Attempt)
Druid of the Claw
10 Hearthstone Cards are Having Their Nerfs Reverted Including a Year of the Dragon Card
Yes! As a wild player I am very excited for this! This could result in a good meta shakeup!
10 Hearthstone Cards are Having Their Nerfs Reverted Including a Year of the Dragon Card
One MUST be Yogg. The rest is really up in the air... From the Year of the Raven, the most likely could be Giggling Inventor and Dr. Boom, Mad Genius and Raiding Party. I can't really pinpoint any good candidate for the Year of the Dragon... Maybe Archivist Elysiana?
Either way, I'm glad they're doing this sort of things, this is really what the game needs and what Wild needs.
10 Hearthstone Cards are Having Their Nerfs Reverted Including a Year of the Dragon Card
so that means dr boom mg is probably getting unnerfed
as for un nerfed year of the dragon cards the only ones i know of are
Sludge Slurper
Mogu Fleshshaper
Faceless Corruptor
Corrupt Elementalist
but chanches are either sludge slurper or facless is being unnerfed
10 Hearthstone Cards are Having Their Nerfs Reverted Including a Year of the Dragon Card
unnerf Patches the Pirate kappa
EDIT: OK seriously. I expect that Raiding Party and Dr. Boom, Mad Genius will be unnerfed because they are rotating. Maybe also Reckless Experimenter?
Regarding the Wild only cards, I hope that Yogg-Saron, Hope's End will be unnerfed.
10 Hearthstone Cards are Having Their Nerfs Reverted Including a Year of the Dragon Card
I am so nervous they're going to choose one of the most frustrating Year of the Dragon cards to unnerf. Here's to them unnerfing like Sludge Slerper or something.
10 Hearthstone Cards are Having Their Nerfs Reverted Including a Year of the Dragon Card
Azure Dragon being standard again should be the best nerf reverted :)
10 Hearthstone Cards are Having Their Nerfs Reverted Including a Year of the Dragon Card
YESPLS
10 Hearthstone Cards are Having Their Nerfs Reverted Including a Year of the Dragon Card
#Unnerfyogg
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what was the combo?