Just accept that Barrier negates damage after it has been dealt, and everything falls into place for this and many other interactions (such as Overwhelm).
It is also helpful to remember that "negates" only means that the damage (which definitely was dealt and definitely exists) has no effect -- that is to say, it is not subtracted from the protected unit's Health.
Drain damage, however, is apparently not the same as normal damage, it is more of a zero-sum game: The Health you regain has to come from somewhere, so if nothing was actually taken from an enemy, nothing is gained by you. (But the damage is still being "dealt" and negated by Barrier.)
The very fact that you have to special case drain here is my problem with it. I prefer to think that Barrier absorbs all damage directed at a unit, which is fine for effects like drain and overwhelm; barriers don't have HP, so they produce zero drain, and the excess damage was never going at that unit anyway, so it still goes through.
The problem is that the unit isn't taking damage, because any damage the would have taken was absorbed by their barrier, so the absorption model fails for these "survive damage" effects. I know it's nitpicky, but that's how I see it.
I've seen Rummage in a couple of these lists, and I have to say I find it pretty clunky.
I never have any problem keeping a big hand, especially with two Progress Day!s.
I'd rather have some Entreat to ensure that sweet E-Z action as soon as he levels up, or another copy after he dies, or another copy while he's still alive because Ezreal's Mystic Shot is awesome.
"Blue" Ezreal was a popular item build when I used to play LoL, where every Mystic Shot Ez landed slowed an area around the target. Is it still possible today?
Either way, it's interesting to see that type of play style translated to Runeterra, however annoying it may be.
Congratulations to Aaron Gertler (littlebeep) for winning the DreamHack Anaheim 2020 Arena Open over the weekend! He took home $30,000 (half of which he's donating to charity) and a ticket to the Mythic Championship in May. The tournament meta was primarily Azorious Control, Jeskai Fires, and Mono Red Aggro. If you'd like to see the decklist for Aaron's Temur Adventures deck you can click on the spoiler below. If you want to check out ALL decklists from the event you can click HERE.
Show Spoiler
4 Beanstalk Giant (ELD) 149 4 Bonecrusher Giant (ELD) 115 4 Brazen Borrower (ELD) 39 4 Breeding Pool (RNA) 246 4 Edgewall Innkeeper (ELD) 151 3 Escape to the Wilds (ELD) 189 4 Fae of Wishes (ELD) 44 6 Forest (ANA) 65 4 Island (ANA) 62 4 Lovestruck Beast (ELD) 165 4 Lucky Clover (ELD) 226 2 Mountain (ANA) 64 3 Steam Vents (GRN) 257 4 Stomping Ground (RNA) 259 2 Temple of Abandon (THB) 244 1 Temple of Epiphany (M20) 253 1 Temple of Mystery (M20) 255 1 The Great Henge (ELD) 161 1 Incubation // Incongruity (RNA) 226
All I'm seeing so far is a thread full of people who apparently don't remember wild mill rogue...
A t4 deck can't really attract so much hate...
Did someone say big priest?
No?
Oh, then I will:
Big priest. That cockroach has nearly been exterminated in wild. But now it's popping up in standard for some reason. By far the most unfun deck I have, and unfortunately continue, to play against.
Honorable mention goes to solitaire (freeze) mage.
Just accept that Barrier negates damage after it has been dealt, and everything falls into place for this and many other interactions (such as Overwhelm).
You're still getting the champion (and can get it instantly by just starting the Expedition and then surrendering it) but you have the option for some Expedition fun as well.
That's missing a crucial piece of the puzzle, though: You're limited to 3 expedition rewards per week. With the previous version of the vault, you would've been able to score a guaranteed 4 champions per week (presupposing that you're able to afford the 3 expedition runs without the free token). Now it's just 3.
While that might be worse for hard grinders and ppl who can perform well in expeditions consistently, it is way more "casual" friendly. You still get your champ, and you also get a free entry to the expedition, so you are not required to cough up 9k shards to be able to play the mode for free for the rest of the week, but "just" 6k. Honestly, average player might even struggle to do 2 expeditions per week time/shard wise, so having one free entry is pretty good.
Corruption should being with a capital C, as it's part of a proper name (in this case, a card name). Its self-referential aspect also should use different syntax modifiers. It should be 'Emeriss Corruption' instead of Emeriss Corruption. Better yet, it could just be "add a copy of this to your hand".
Could probably also say "give them Deathrattle: X" instead of "when they die", although it seems like text space got in the way of that one.
Here's the newest card reward for ranked play in TESL this month!
As the ranked play season ends, it’s time to reveal the monthly reward card for February. For the first time in a while, a new support card is coming to Legends: Skyshard!
Skyshard is an ongoing support in the Endurance attribute with a cost of three magicka. Unlike many ongoing supports, which stay on the board after they’re played, Skyshard also comes with a Summon effect. Playing Skyshard immediately draws a random creature from your deck – as well as kicks in the card’s ongoing effect.
As long as Skyshard’s in play, creatures you draw gain a +2/+2 buff…but also cost two additional magicka to summon. A double-edged sword, but still a powerful one in the right deck – for example, one that cares a lot more about its creatures’ stats than their cost.
In a deck focused on magicka ramp, you’ll be able to reap the benefits of Skyshard in the late game, as you’ll have more than enough magicka to work with by that point. Cards that make your creatures battle other creatures, like Squish the Wimpy and Unstoppable Rage, also benefit from the stat increase. Additionally, a little extra power and health can make drawing weaker early game creatures more useful later on!
No matter how you plan to make use of Skyshard, make sure you head into the ranked ladder today to earn your copies! As with all our monthly reward cards, reaching rank 9 in our ranked ladder by the end of the month will award you one copy, rank 5 will earn you the second and if you finish rank 1 or higher you’ll get a full playset. In addition, if you’re able to finish in the top 1,000 Legend ranks, your playset will be premium!
Congratulations to this weekend's winner of the ECQ for Echoes of Eternity, Twanbon! If you'd like to try out his deck you can copy the code from the spoiler below.
Galio is not the biggest champion in league, Malphite, Cho'gath and Zac are equally big, Malphite is much bigger in lore he is a mountain..
And Aurelion Sol passes through the galaxy I doubt he is that small actually..
A few points:
1.I don't like the art on the level up it's too bright.
2. a champion levels up when it's played and never does in hand so the level up extra text doesn't make much sense.. it only works from the second copy onward.
3. the +5/+5 is not something any other champion does.. the level up different shouldn't be that drastic, most champions go by max 2 stats from their none level up.
About the spell it's probably really useless, reminds me of Rebuke but worse.
Don't put your hopes up it's Activison Blizzard we are talking about it will look good on paper but in the long run they will take more money from us if we want to continue playing.
Hey dude. Believe me or not but ATVI-Blizzard is changing. They've been kinda scared from past community issues about HK and MTX.
I expect some big news this week, something that will change the way we see Activision forever: -Probably today, they will announce a F2P Battle Royale Game called "WARZONE" -Thursday, New Year Announcement will introduce some substantial change to HS economy, aiming to improve the F2P Experience.
That's enough to think that they are shifting their business-set. And probably it's just the beginning...
How do you know that?
W3:refunded and HK case are really stuff that showed the true face of Blizzard
also VARIOUS bugs that went live like adventure card rewards in arena and adventure cards in random effects...
As well as Runettera showing that.. yes you can make the economy F2P, and be enjoyable..
in HS it's just.. you can't experiment at all... that really turned me down.. I am only doing quest to keep up with the game RN..
When you generate a card, you have an option to create a permanent link. You can use the temporary link, but the card will disappear in like 3 days.
I do actually load them up to imgur after creating them on hearthcards and saving them on my device. It's a bit clunky but it works. The trick to post the picture from imgur is not to use the picture in your gallery but to click it another time so a window with only the pic in it opens. You can tell the difference by the URL, there should be no "gallery" in it. Copy the URL and insert the pic into your post with the button. If it calculates widh and height after inserting the link, you did it right.
@ArngrimUndying - that's an awful lot of text to point at me for such a throwaway joke :P
LOL totally fair. Just pointing out how we the players often think about a game in a way that is directly opposite to how the company that makes it thinks about it.
Ezreal and a Herd of Elnuks Obliterate Your Foes in CHARM3R's Amazingly Fun Version of "Eznuks"
Ugh, why'd you have to remind me of Blue Ez hahaha. That was some interesting times in bot lane.
The Hearthstone Cards We're Going to Miss When Year of the Dragons Ends - Rastakhan's Rumble Edition
people are too harsh on Overkill considering that Inspire was a thing that happened
Barrier and Surviving Damage
The very fact that you have to special case drain here is my problem with it. I prefer to think that Barrier absorbs all damage directed at a unit, which is fine for effects like drain and overwhelm; barriers don't have HP, so they produce zero drain, and the excess damage was never going at that unit anyway, so it still goes through.
The problem is that the unit isn't taking damage, because any damage the would have taken was absorbed by their barrier, so the absorption model fails for these "survive damage" effects. I know it's nitpicky, but that's how I see it.
Yasuo Level-Up Requirement: Stun AND Recall or Stun OR Recall?
i dno wtfs going on with ur yasuos but mine r working just fine :p
Ezreal and a Herd of Elnuks Obliterate Your Foes in CHARM3R's Amazingly Fun Version of "Eznuks"
I've seen Rummage in a couple of these lists, and I have to say I find it pretty clunky.
I never have any problem keeping a big hand, especially with two Progress Day!s.
I'd rather have some Entreat to ensure that sweet E-Z action as soon as he levels up, or another copy after he dies, or another copy while he's still alive because Ezreal's Mystic Shot is awesome.
Ezreal and a Herd of Elnuks Obliterate Your Foes in CHARM3R's Amazingly Fun Version of "Eznuks"
Oh yeah, nice catch! Blue ez in LOR idd, hilarious.
Ezreal and a Herd of Elnuks Obliterate Your Foes in CHARM3R's Amazingly Fun Version of "Eznuks"
"Blue" Ezreal was a popular item build when I used to play LoL, where every Mystic Shot Ez landed slowed an area around the target. Is it still possible today?
Either way, it's interesting to see that type of play style translated to Runeterra, however annoying it may be.
One Man's Treasure - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread
Thanks for the feedback. I'm not an english speaker so i was struggling with the card text.
This looks better!
MTG Arena - DreamHack Winner
Congratulations to Aaron Gertler (littlebeep) for winning the DreamHack Anaheim 2020 Arena Open over the weekend! He took home $30,000 (half of which he's donating to charity) and a ticket to the Mythic Championship in May. The tournament meta was primarily Azorious Control, Jeskai Fires, and Mono Red Aggro. If you'd like to see the decklist for Aaron's Temur Adventures deck you can click on the spoiler below. If you want to check out ALL decklists from the event you can click HERE.
4 Beanstalk Giant (ELD) 149
4 Bonecrusher Giant (ELD) 115
4 Brazen Borrower (ELD) 39
4 Breeding Pool (RNA) 246
4 Edgewall Innkeeper (ELD) 151
3 Escape to the Wilds (ELD) 189
4 Fae of Wishes (ELD) 44
6 Forest (ANA) 65
4 Island (ANA) 62
4 Lovestruck Beast (ELD) 165
4 Lucky Clover (ELD) 226
2 Mountain (ANA) 64
3 Steam Vents (GRN) 257
4 Stomping Ground (RNA) 259
2 Temple of Abandon (THB) 244
1 Temple of Epiphany (M20) 253
1 Temple of Mystery (M20) 255
1 The Great Henge (ELD) 161
1 Incubation // Incongruity (RNA) 226
3 Aether Gust (M20) 42
1 Chandra, Awakened Inferno (M20) 127
1 Disdainful Stroke (GRN) 37
1 Domri's Ambush (WAR) 192
1 Escape to the Wilds (ELD) 189
1 Fling (ELD) 126
1 Mystic Repeal (THB) 180
1 Negate (M20) 69
1 Once and Future (ELD) 168
1 Return to Nature (THB) 197
1 Shadowspear (THB) 236
1 Sorcerous Spyglass (ELD) 233
1 Storm's Wrath (THB) 157
Worst deck archetype you've faced (mini rant thread)
Did someone say big priest?
No?
Oh, then I will:
Big priest. That cockroach has nearly been exterminated in wild. But now it's popping up in standard for some reason. By far the most unfun deck I have, and unfortunately continue, to play against.
Honorable mention goes to solitaire (freeze) mage.
Barrier and Surviving Damage
I refuse to accept that, it is a stupid design :p
no Champion in lvl 10 Vault?
While that might be worse for hard grinders and ppl who can perform well in expeditions consistently, it is way more "casual" friendly. You still get your champ, and you also get a free entry to the expedition, so you are not required to cough up 9k shards to be able to play the mode for free for the rest of the week, but "just" 6k. Honestly, average player might even struggle to do 2 expeditions per week time/shard wise, so having one free entry is pretty good.
[Game] Card Treasure Hunt (The Resurrection Attempt)
Sure is - good job JFK
One Man's Treasure - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread
Corruption should being with a capital C, as it's part of a proper name (in this case, a card name). Its self-referential aspect also should use different syntax modifiers. It should be 'Emeriss Corruption' instead of Emeriss Corruption. Better yet, it could just be "add a copy of this to your hand".
Could probably also say "give them Deathrattle: X" instead of "when they die", although it seems like text space got in the way of that one.
The Elder Scrolls: Legends - February Card Reward
Here's the newest card reward for ranked play in TESL this month!
Custom Galio champion
Is it just me or are the pictures not showing? Probably bad host?
One Man's Treasure - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread
Good luck to everyone
Eternal - ECQ: Echoes of Eternity Winner
Congratulations to this weekend's winner of the ECQ for Echoes of Eternity, Twanbon! If you'd like to try out his deck you can copy the code from the spoiler below.
4 Finest Hour (Set1 #130)
4 Shen-Ra, Unbreakable (Set7 #67)
4 Aamri's Choice (Set7 #173)
4 Desert Marshal (Set1 #332)
4 Intrepid Longhorn (Set7 #174)
4 Teacher of Humility (Set4 #67)
4 Auric Record Keeper (Set3 #258)
4 Stand Together (Set1 #334)
4 Tocas, Waystone Harvester (Set6 #75)
4 Valkyrie Enforcer (Set1 #151)
4 Winchest Merchant (Set4 #126)
2 Genetrix Irel IV (Set4 #307)
4 Combrei Banner (Set1 #424)
4 Combrei Insignia (Set6 #230)
4 Emblem of Grodov (Set7 #31)
2 Emblem of Kodosh (Set7 #61)
6 Justice Sigil (Set1 #126)
5 Time Sigil (Set1 #63)
————–MARKET—————
1 Elder's Feather (Set1 #128)
1 Edict of Kodosh (Set7 #68)
1 Lay Siege (Set7 #71)
1 Vanquisher's Blade (Set4 #112)
1 Pristine Light (Set6 #111)
Custom Galio champion
Galio is not the biggest champion in league, Malphite, Cho'gath and Zac are equally big, Malphite is much bigger in lore he is a mountain..
And Aurelion Sol passes through the galaxy I doubt he is that small actually..
A few points:
1.I don't like the art on the level up it's too bright.
2. a champion levels up when it's played and never does in hand so the level up extra text doesn't make much sense.. it only works from the second copy onward.
3. the +5/+5 is not something any other champion does.. the level up different shouldn't be that drastic, most champions go by max 2 stats from their none level up.
About the spell it's probably really useless, reminds me of Rebuke but worse.
Sorry but, I didn't like the design of the card..
Eternal - Promo Card Lastlight Judgement
There's a new promo card up for grabs for your first PVP win each day. It's available until 3/2, so act fast!
[Game] Card Treasure Hunt (The Resurrection Attempt)
Meteorologist, isn't it?
How to "cement HS for the next decade" speculations thread
How do you know that?
W3:refunded and HK case are really stuff that showed the true face of Blizzard
also VARIOUS bugs that went live like adventure card rewards in arena and adventure cards in random effects...
As well as Runettera showing that.. yes you can make the economy F2P, and be enjoyable..
in HS it's just.. you can't experiment at all... that really turned me down.. I am only doing quest to keep up with the game RN..
One Man's Treasure - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread
I do actually load them up to imgur after creating them on hearthcards and saving them on my device. It's a bit clunky but it works. The trick to post the picture from imgur is not to use the picture in your gallery but to click it another time so a window with only the pic in it opens. You can tell the difference by the URL, there should be no "gallery" in it. Copy the URL and insert the pic into your post with the button. If it calculates widh and height after inserting the link, you did it right.
Fiora and Zed Continue to Smash Face in Swimstrim's Latest Update to His Popular Elusive Burn Deck
Yeah I know that, it's so frustrating to face such combo you can't really do much on most cases if it lands on a Fiora
How to "cement HS for the next decade" speculations thread
LOL totally fair. Just pointing out how we the players often think about a game in a way that is directly opposite to how the company that makes it thinks about it.