This right here is the problem with doing a board clear cycle when one of the classes is already completely saturated with good removal.
Since they already took huge creative liberties with what constitutes a board clear with Plague of Madness, they really should have done something different with this one as well.
It’s possible that this card can replace a copy of Brawl where decks run 2 of them, I’m just trying to think what type of whirlwind effect they use instead, like you wouldn’t use this along Warpath unless necessary
I mean....I'll give you that VS doesn't showcase off-meta homebrew decks, so if you have stats and proof of hitting R5 with Mech Zoo Priest, I'll gladly admit being wrong.
Pretty sweet card to get off of conjurer's calling, especially in a mage mirror. Imagine how many mountain giants this can chew through and still be conjured into something new.
Edit: I just noticed this is a legendary. What the heck? This card screams packfiller common. Why would you do this to people, Blizzard? Who on earth is going to be happy cracking one of these open? Big yikes.
You're intentionally misconstruing arguments to make yourself look smart. It's obviously fucking bad but it's still the only good priest deck in the format. I'm done with you.
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For 9-mana and a beefy body, it didn't see much play. For 5-mana and no body, I really like this as removal, but damn.....doesn't Warrior already have enough AOE?
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None of that says control. Highest cost card is Zilliax, and it doesn't run AOE.
Good catch. I thought we were discussing ladder viable decks. One sec, I haven't uploaded my Beast Pirate Priest deck, we need to talk about how Grandmummy impacts that.
Shut the fuck up dude and take your shit somewhere else. If VS isn't good enough for you, I guess you're too good a player for this site.
I like VS and use it frequently but let's not pretend it's something it isn't. It lists decks based on winrate, based on the players who have opted in to submitting data. Look at the facts. Mech Priest is nowhere on their ranking list, which means its worse than a T4 deck. If it was good enough, people would play it and it would be seen on the rankings, but it isn't. I just want to make sure we're on the same page and talking about the same things. Mech Priest is not a ladder deck. We've had two instances of a tempo-ish Priest since GvG (when I started playing and have mostly been a Priest main ever since), Dragon Priest in the Drakonid OPerative meta, and Keleseth Spiteful Priest. Zoo Priest is not a thing, not in competitve Hearthstone anyways.
None of that says control. Highest cost card is Zilliax, and it doesn't run AOE.
Good catch. I thought we were discussing ladder viable decks. One sec, I haven't uploaded my Beast Pirate Priest deck, we need to talk about how Grandmummy impacts that.
Shut the fuck up dude and take your shit somewhere else. If VS isn't good enough for you, I guess you're too good a player for this site.
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None of that says control. Highest cost card is Zilliax, and it doesn't run AOE.
Good catch. I thought we were discussing ladder viable decks. One sec, I haven't uploaded my Beast Pirate Priest deck, we need to talk about how Grandmummy impacts that.
I guess KotFT was a unique expansion with huge power level because of the unbalanced game. There was almost only Jade Druids and Pirate Warriors in Ladder and it seemed like it can't be change. So it is like a "must to do" i guess. Or I'm wrong again i really don't know but I want to believe in this.
Well, it was more of the theme that did it. That expansion wasn't just some random hearthstone made event.
This is the Frozen Throne. Lich King. Death Knight! The topic is literally the most important event in all that is Warcraft Lore.
People have been clamoring for this set since Hearthstone was first made. It's going to go *BIG*. Note that they work on sets about 2-4 sets in advance. Thus KotFT started development somewhere between Old Gods and One Night: BEFORE the game filled up with Jades and Pirates.
Battlecry: Both players discard 3 cards and draw 3 cards. [7 mana, 7 attack, 7 health, Legendary][
Same stats as boom, but VERY disruptive to combo decks with the right timing. Best guess I have to the reason for the change was due to an earlier philosophy of not wanting cards that 'ruin' other people's fun. The new card is less powerful because..well.. have you SEEN most legendaries back then? Blizzard wasn't that great in high mana legendary cards back then. He's kept as is now because of a new philosophy of not wanting Classic to be the Go To set for most deck design. if we see him in an expansion, he'll probably get a MUCH better design.
Dr. Boom being better was a surprise to everyone. We all mocked him when he was revealed, and I'm betting he was meant to be a meme. However, he was literally the only 7 drop that wasn't absolute garbage ONLY because he actually DID something to the board. Part of why Dr. Boom shows up so often now is because of how absolutely silly that an uncared for thing in WoW turned into such a big name in here. And it shows in his designs as someone who gets no respect and, by all impressions, should be worthless but actually ends up being the most effective.
(seriously, the entire POINT to Shadows, and the main conflict of Uldun starts with us literally stealing an entire city by strapping rockets on it)
So basically, (TL:DR SUMMARY)
Illidan was good but didn't fit the old card design, so he got remade.
He was remade bad because we used to suck at card design.
He's going to remain bad because new set design won't let him be good again.
That Dr. Boom isn't worthless while he is shows just HOW bad we sucked at card design in 2014-15.
And Illidan seriously needs to be a prominent figure in a set sometime.
Three Uldum Card Reveals - Hearthside Chat
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Three Uldum Card Reveals - Hearthside Chat
Another OP removal for War, well played. and another great conjurers calling minion for mage and they are using sea giant today, nice, Blizz.
Three Uldum Card Reveals - Hearthside Chat
more and more removal for warrior :/
New Warrior Spell - Plague of Wrath
This right here is the problem with doing a board clear cycle when one of the classes is already completely saturated with good removal.
Since they already took huge creative liberties with what constitutes a board clear with Plague of Madness, they really should have done something different with this one as well.
New Warrior Spell - Plague of Wrath
It’s possible that this card can replace a copy of Brawl where decks run 2 of them, I’m just trying to think what type of whirlwind effect they use instead, like you wouldn’t use this along Warpath unless necessary
New Priest Minion - Grandmummy
I mean....I'll give you that VS doesn't showcase off-meta homebrew decks, so if you have stats and proof of hitting R5 with Mech Zoo Priest, I'll gladly admit being wrong.
New Neutral Minion - Colossus of the Moon
Pretty sweet card to get off of conjurer's calling, especially in a mage mirror. Imagine how many mountain giants this can chew through and still be conjured into something new.
Edit: I just noticed this is a legendary. What the heck? This card screams packfiller common. Why would you do this to people, Blizzard? Who on earth is going to be happy cracking one of these open? Big yikes.
New Priest Minion - Grandmummy
You're intentionally misconstruing arguments to make yourself look smart. It's obviously fucking bad but it's still the only good priest deck in the format. I'm done with you.
New Priest Minion - High Priest Amet
Eww! Buff its health and stick a few taunts in front of it. Even Target Dummies would do the job.
And then bung in Kel'Thuzad because why wouldn't you? :)
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New Warrior Spell - Plague of Wrath
For 9-mana and a beefy body, it didn't see much play. For 5-mana and no body, I really like this as removal, but damn.....doesn't Warrior already have enough AOE?
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New Neutral Minion - Colossus of the Moon
Pretty hard to kill, reminds me of that 2/14 divine shield taunt, but then again.....10-mana Legendary that doesn't really DO anything......
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New Priest Minion - Grandmummy
I like VS and use it frequently but let's not pretend it's something it isn't. It lists decks based on winrate, based on the players who have opted in to submitting data. Look at the facts. Mech Priest is nowhere on their ranking list, which means its worse than a T4 deck. If it was good enough, people would play it and it would be seen on the rankings, but it isn't. I just want to make sure we're on the same page and talking about the same things. Mech Priest is not a ladder deck. We've had two instances of a tempo-ish Priest since GvG (when I started playing and have mostly been a Priest main ever since), Dragon Priest in the Drakonid OPerative meta, and Keleseth Spiteful Priest. Zoo Priest is not a thing, not in competitve Hearthstone anyways.
Ignore feature
Can we get an ignore button?
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New Priest Minion - Grandmummy
Shut the fuck up dude and take your shit somewhere else. If VS isn't good enough for you, I guess you're too good a player for this site.
Cho Priest
Looks like a WowHobbs deck.
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Uldum Priest Legendary Reveal - High Priest Amet
Wow! Just by having the text "summon" oppose to "played" brings a lot of possibility. You can Vivid Nightmare the card and it will be full health!
New Priest Minion - Grandmummy
Good catch. I thought we were discussing ladder viable decks. One sec, I haven't uploaded my Beast Pirate Priest deck, we need to talk about how Grandmummy impacts that.
Uldum Priest Card Reveal - Grandmummy
Will it buff itself if it is the only friendly minion on board? Which will trigger first? Reborn or Deathrattle?
Uldum Final Reveal Stream w/ Brian Kibler, Peter Whalen, & Chris Sierra - July 31
No, sir. There's a time and place for "Critical thinking and fact checking". What you are doing is called, "overthinking" aka being anal about it.
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Illidan used to be VERY powerful
Battlecry: Both players discard 3 cards and draw 3 cards. [7 mana, 7 attack, 7 health, Legendary][
Same stats as boom, but VERY disruptive to combo decks with the right timing. Best guess I have to the reason for the change was due to an earlier philosophy of not wanting cards that 'ruin' other people's fun. The new card is less powerful because..well.. have you SEEN most legendaries back then? Blizzard wasn't that great in high mana legendary cards back then. He's kept as is now because of a new philosophy of not wanting Classic to be the Go To set for most deck design. if we see him in an expansion, he'll probably get a MUCH better design.
Dr. Boom being better was a surprise to everyone. We all mocked him when he was revealed, and I'm betting he was meant to be a meme. However, he was literally the only 7 drop that wasn't absolute garbage ONLY because he actually DID something to the board. Part of why Dr. Boom shows up so often now is because of how absolutely silly that an uncared for thing in WoW turned into such a big name in here. And it shows in his designs as someone who gets no respect and, by all impressions, should be worthless but actually ends up being the most effective.
(seriously, the entire POINT to Shadows, and the main conflict of Uldun starts with us literally stealing an entire city by strapping rockets on it)
So basically, (TL:DR SUMMARY)
Illidan was good but didn't fit the old card design, so he got remade.
He was remade bad because we used to suck at card design.
He's going to remain bad because new set design won't let him be good again.
That Dr. Boom isn't worthless while he is shows just HOW bad we sucked at card design in 2014-15.
And Illidan seriously needs to be a prominent figure in a set sometime.