Resurrecting deathrattle minions and giving them reborn is the only scary scenario imho. So, logically, this card would fit some standard deathrattle decks or wild N'Zoth, the Corruptor's. But I think, that, since you want your Psychopomp's battlecry to land on such minions, you would either run only one copy of him or two, but you have to play both of them together. You also don't want to run other minions beside deathrattles, so Northshire Cleric, Questing Explorer or Wretched Reclaimer mustn't be used. And this would be a bummer, because the Etheral synergizes with N'zoth decks a lot better (Twilight's Call) and doesn't have a terrible body. Not only that, but in my eyes Psychopomp makes more sense to be run in a greedy list - I mean, you don't want to play a 4 mana 3/1 just to resurrect Dead Ringer. You would want him to resurrect stuff like Convincing Infiltrator, Sylvanas Windrunner, Sneed's Old Shredder or Cairne Bloodhoof and Mechanical Whelp in standard.
I guess he could be also quite good in summoning Catrina Muerte and some minions with a lot of health (Witchwood Grizzly) in the standard Inner Fire ress priest deck, but he can also ruin the resurrect pool - you don't want Muerte to revive him or to get a 3/1 from Mass Resurrection.
Like I said in the reveal thread, I don't think this card would be added in Burn Mage just yet. The meta is very aggressive in wild and Medivh's Valet is more useful, because it can be used early on and kill the opponent's 1-, 2- or 3-drops. In the future though, if we see more mid-range decks popping up, Tempo Mage would immediately run it. Fireball on a stick is a scary combinaiton.
Until we see more strong mid- or late-game board clears for mage, I suspect Tortollan Pilgrim would be used in order to cast one specific spell - Puzzle Box of Yogg-Saron. Casino Mage might not be competitive, but it would be fun to play.
The secret is really good against slow decks (with bunch of taunts) and Big Priest in wild. It puts the opponent behind on tempo. This can't be said for the aggro MUs though, because even if they do run some spells, you are most likely to kill a worthless minion that the strongest one.
Cool idea. You try to set up a Ra turn by shufflying Glinda with a Banker, drawing her with the upgraded HP and when the time comes, you spam the whole board with cultists, you kill your own Glinda with the Demonbolt and play the 7th cultist.
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Will this buff a minion with full health? From the wording it sounds like it would, but if it doesn't then that significantly reduces its power.
It will. It doesn't matter, if you restore any health to it (although that would count as a bonus). The HP states that you only need to target A minion, in order to give it +3/+3.
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If you do this on a reborn minion which has not died yet, do you get two minions, one with reborn used (and 1 health) and one with reborn still not used?
You also get the same effect if you play the ethereal on the reborn minion itself.
If you are right, and I think there is a good chance, this might be a very solid deck idea. I am just curious how reliable you can turn all of your lucentbarks dorment to activate the combo
Consistency is the least of your problems. Like I said above, I don't think this deck would be competitive, because the trees are extremely vulnerable to silence and transform effects. And not only that, the druid's class weakness is the lack of good AoEs or single-target removals for big minions (e.g. giants).
You don't have to pull off the combo, you could simply overwhelm the opponent with your wall. If they feel threatened and clear it to the point, when you have 5 dormant creatures on the board and two cultists in hand, you can go for the meme OTK play.
but I imagine it will come in and out of decklists depending on the meta (I expect the same will be true of Flame Ward)
For the time being I suspect burn mages would run both copies of this card, in order to counter odd paladin and other aggro decks (which are somewhat popular).
Check the frequency score of some of the high tier decks. But you are right to think, that the 3/2 would come in and out depending on the meta. Flame Ward though, as long as there are swarm decks on the ladder, would always stay. Even as a one-of, but it would stay. The 3-damage AoE is just too good, because, like I said earlier, it can clear most 1-, 2-, 3- and even 4-drops.
Yeah, fair point. I guess you'd use Kezan if your deck is more tempo-oriented than control.
Makes me wonder if the best way to play burn mage is to spam fewer secrets....probably?
I'm not an expert, but I think against control it would be much better to spam the secrets, so that you would overwhelm the opponent in the early game and win with your threatening board and/or burn spells later on. Explosive Runes denies the opponent from summoning a taunt, Counterspell denies them from casting an AoE, Ice Block keeps your Medivh's Valets always active and the more secrets you cast, the cheaper Kabal Crystal Runner becomes.
In the next meta I suspect Burn Mage players would hold onto their secrets when facing aggro, in order to proc Arcane Flakmage's effect a bunch of times. If secret techs become very popular, mage players would play their secrets more frugally like you suspect.
Also worth noting that odd pally has access to Chief Inspector but i doubt it'll be worth it for consistency reasons
Yup, I agree. If mage plays Arcane Flakmage and either a Kirin Tor Mage into a secret or just a secret, the paladin would lose its board and tempo advantage. Chief Inspector wouldn't help that much, not when Tempo Mage can spam cheap AoEs whenever it pleases.
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Regarding Eater of Secrets etc. vs. Kezan Mystic… i think it depends on how Secret Mages play out in the new meta. In other words, will they be more strategic (one secret at a time) or just spam "?"'s everywhere lol.
Good question, but as a control player I would prefer the prior tech just because burn mages normally spam "?"s left and right and I would be more comfortable in dealing with them at once.
Resurrecting deathrattle minions and giving them reborn is the only scary scenario imho. So, logically, this card would fit some standard deathrattle decks or wild N'Zoth, the Corruptor's. But I think, that, since you want your Psychopomp's battlecry to land on such minions, you would either run only one copy of him or two, but you have to play both of them together. You also don't want to run other minions beside deathrattles, so Northshire Cleric, Questing Explorer or Wretched Reclaimer mustn't be used. And this would be a bummer, because the Etheral synergizes with N'zoth decks a lot better (Twilight's Call) and doesn't have a terrible body. Not only that, but in my eyes Psychopomp makes more sense to be run in a greedy list - I mean, you don't want to play a 4 mana 3/1 just to resurrect Dead Ringer. You would want him to resurrect stuff like Convincing Infiltrator, Sylvanas Windrunner, Sneed's Old Shredder or Cairne Bloodhoof and Mechanical Whelp in standard.
I guess he could be also quite good in summoning Catrina Muerte and some minions with a lot of health (Witchwood Grizzly) in the standard Inner Fire ress priest deck, but he can also ruin the resurrect pool - you don't want Muerte to revive him or to get a 3/1 from Mass Resurrection.
Like I said in the reveal thread, I don't think this card would be added in Burn Mage just yet. The meta is very aggressive in wild and Medivh's Valet is more useful, because it can be used early on and kill the opponent's 1-, 2- or 3-drops. In the future though, if we see more mid-range decks popping up, Tempo Mage would immediately run it. Fireball on a stick is a scary combinaiton.
Until we see more strong mid- or late-game board clears for mage, I suspect Tortollan Pilgrim would be used in order to cast one specific spell - Puzzle Box of Yogg-Saron. Casino Mage might not be competitive, but it would be fun to play.
The secret is really good against slow decks (with bunch of taunts) and Big Priest in wild. It puts the opponent behind on tempo. This can't be said for the aggro MUs though, because even if they do run some spells, you are most likely to kill a worthless minion that the strongest one.
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Easy to fulfill, reward, anti-synergies with Cutlass Tess Rogue.
Cool idea. You try to set up a Ra turn by shufflying Glinda with a Banker, drawing her with the upgraded HP and when the time comes, you spam the whole board with cultists, you kill your own Glinda with the Demonbolt and play the 7th cultist.
I like it.
Me too. Yesterday I PM'd Peter Whalen and today I post a comment on the respective tweet seeing that the devs have answered a lot of questions on others. There isn't any response from them so far and I'm skeptical that I would get one, but if I get it - either confirming or denying the interaction - I will make a thread here on OOC and share the knowledege with the rest of the users.
It will. It doesn't matter, if you restore any health to it (although that would count as a bonus). The HP states that you only need to target A minion, in order to give it +3/+3.
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Because of this quest, priest players have a reason to heal their opponent's faces and emote. "The light shall burn you" and "Greetings" sound intimidating now more than ever.
Interesting card for zoo and inner fire priest.
[edit] Question - so if I am reading it correctly, the HP gives +3/+6, right? It restores 3 health AND grants a minion +3/+3. That's very strong.
I will gladly add it in my wild deathrattle decks. It has nice synergy with Twilight's Call.
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You also get the same effect if you play the ethereal on the reborn minion itself.
https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Reborn#Notes
So even though we don't see a visual image of the keyword, it's still there.
Deathrattle, Reborn, minions with "hurt themselves" synergies. Overall I like it.
[edit] Also, Twilight's Call.
Consistency is the least of your problems. Like I said above, I don't think this deck would be competitive, because the trees are extremely vulnerable to silence and transform effects. And not only that, the druid's class weakness is the lack of good AoEs or single-target removals for big minions (e.g. giants).
You don't have to pull off the combo, you could simply overwhelm the opponent with your wall. If they feel threatened and clear it to the point, when you have 5 dormant creatures on the board and two cultists in hand, you can go for the meme OTK play.
For the time being I suspect burn mages would run both copies of this card, in order to counter odd paladin and other aggro decks (which are somewhat popular).
https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/wild-drr/wild-power-rankings/
Check the frequency score of some of the high tier decks. But you are right to think, that the 3/2 would come in and out depending on the meta. Flame Ward though, as long as there are swarm decks on the ladder, would always stay. Even as a one-of, but it would stay. The 3-damage AoE is just too good, because, like I said earlier, it can clear most 1-, 2-, 3- and even 4-drops.
I'm not an expert, but I think against control it would be much better to spam the secrets, so that you would overwhelm the opponent in the early game and win with your threatening board and/or burn spells later on. Explosive Runes denies the opponent from summoning a taunt, Counterspell denies them from casting an AoE, Ice Block keeps your Medivh's Valets always active and the more secrets you cast, the cheaper Kabal Crystal Runner becomes.
In the next meta I suspect Burn Mage players would hold onto their secrets when facing aggro, in order to proc Arcane Flakmage's effect a bunch of times. If secret techs become very popular, mage players would play their secrets more frugally like you suspect.
Yup, I agree. If mage plays Arcane Flakmage and either a Kirin Tor Mage into a secret or just a secret, the paladin would lose its board and tempo advantage. Chief Inspector wouldn't help that much, not when Tempo Mage can spam cheap AoEs whenever it pleases.
Good question, but as a control player I would prefer the prior tech just because burn mages normally spam "?"s left and right and I would be more comfortable in dealing with them at once.