On the plus side: there's a ton of awesome stuff here. The mutate mechanic might be the coolest CCG mechanic I've ever seen, the "monster" theme is very exciting, and who doesn't want to play with Godzilla and Mothra?
On the minus side: it's still not enough to call me back to MtG, and if this can't do it for me that means nothing ever will. :-/ But I do sincerely hope that those of you who are still in it enjoy this on my behalf.
You were all fools. Corina is now super popular--she's in like 10-20% of decks right now, as people really love how she can answer bannerman. Most decks run Elise, Ledros, Corina, and just tons of removal spells.
Never underestimate how quickly the meta can change everything in this game.
1 : what is the QuickAttack ? I read what it says, but I can't seem to see any difference from normal cards ?
Did you play through all the tutorial missions? I know they can be a little dull, but they do cover things like this and they also give you a respectable amount of bonus XP.
Is Draven so good ? A +1 attack as exchange of a card loss doesn't seem a real game changer ...
The trick with Draven is knowing when and when not to try to progress him. Sometimes, you want to just keep him as a 3/3 quick attack that generates axes--you never HAVE to play them. They make great Rummage targets. And as you see in the video: it does feel really bad when you spend an ax + card just to be denied progression. If you DO upgrade him all the way, though, he becomes a beast.
Edit: and I forgot, it's also nice to hold them in hand and just to be able to "threaten" using them--it means your opponent has to be cautious of any blocks were his unit survives at 1 HP.
It seems like in general, Druid is getting a lot of utility options in this expansion without any real "tent poles" outside of the meme-potential of Ysiel Windsinger. And honestly, that's probably a good thing: Druid has a lot of identity in the current meta with multiple viable archetypes (Embiggen, token, AND quest), so it's more deserving of generic cards than the proverbial shot in the arm that other classes like Shaman and Warlock need.
In your forum post, paste that number out, then highlight it and THEN press the "Runeterra Deck" button. That will create the necessary meta tags before and after the number.
At least, that's the most straightforward way I've found. If anyone has a better way, please share.
Actually, I do sometimes. It's usually when I either haven't had time or just haven't wanted to play in a few days, so I know my quests are stacking up and I just want to clear as many as I can in ~60 minutes. Or maybe I've just been really enjoying the weekly brawl or Battlegrounds, so I haven't been taking the time to "grind" my dailies. Regardless: the 10 extra gold from completing a difficult quest is 5-6x the lost gold if your quest queue is full.
While the expedition changes do suck, we will still get a champion for free every week. It just won't be from the expedition. Our vaults will have a champion as long as we hit level 3 vault.
Oh I actually love these changes overall. Currently the only palpable value the vaults are giving me each week are the champions, and I'd much rather get mine up front than need to spend ~2-3 hours doing two expedition trials to see who I open. Plus I really appreciate how even super-casual players are given consequential rewards for putting in a bare minimum each week. I was just concerned with what to do in the immediate future since I had 2 tokens and a lot of missing champions.
Respectfully disagree. High mana cards are meant to be game-swinging bombs; contrast with Brightsteel Formation, Minah Swiftfoot, She Who Wanders, and Warmother's Call. I do admit that Harrowing + Hecarim is disgusting, but I think that's moreso Hecarim's fault than Harrowing.
Add on top of this: all 5 of the aforementioned cards have fallen out of meta favor recently, which is no coincidence. The only decks that want to go past Round 10 are relying on either Karma, Ezreal, or (depending on generous you classify the meta) Anivia--everything else wants (read: NEEDS) to close out the game earlier. That's a big problem, IMHO.
I've never saved up any expedition tokes, anyway (They're the first thing I use every Tuesday), so it's a moot question for me. But I'd say anyone who has the chance to use some of their unused tokens should do so as quickly as they can. I highly doubt Riot is going to reimburse players with something better than the current expedition rewards.
It's official now, and you were correct, sir. 1000 shards is so much worse than the champion wildcard (unless you already have all 72 champions, but if you do, I'm guessing you don't have too many unused tokens floating around).
I was sitting on one. Will have to spend it tonight before the patch goes into effect...
Do you guys think this mean we should expend all our expedition tokens before Tuesday? Because unless they do some type of compensation, you'll effectively "loose" your free champion. Given how generous they are in general, I wouldn't be surprised if they DID do something even more generous (e.g., everyone gets 1 free champion wildcard per unused token when the patch goes live), but that seems like a pretty big gamble. And I don't know if we'll get an official answer (if any) before the patch notes Monday 11am PT, which only leaves 24 hours before the patch goes live. It's been weighing on me, so I was wondering what y'all thought.
My personal opinion: no, not at all. I think she might be one of the best balanced heroes in the game.
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If you think that's good, you should check out Trifarian Hopeful--its a 5/2 for only 2 mana! Spoiler: it's not actually that good, because having high attack is meaningless if just get value-traded by a 3/1.
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frostbites the strongest enemy every attack
Roughly half the champions do something cool every time they attack; Ashe's ability is probably better than average but still not as good as say Zed or Anivia.
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…and crystal arrow only costs 2 to play… 2 TO PLAY?? sure it's slow, but at that point in the game it's a marvel you've survived long enough to see Ashe cast crystal arrow, that is unless you're playing shadow isles which is the only region that can counter Ashe, and even then it's not certain.
I consider it a minor miracle whenever an Ashe deck survives long enough to cast Crystal Arrow. Honestly, I think your frustrations have more to do with you personally not playing around frostbites well moreso than Frejlord being too powerful. Try playing assuming your opponent always has a frostbite card in hand. Don't overcommit combat tricks as long as your opponent has mana to cast. Ashe has trouble dealing with wide boards; try to take advantage of that. Once Ashe starts to near level, start planning to deal with her arrow. After the opponent draws it: always open attack so you deny them the opportunity to freeze you first.
I LOVE my Ashe + The Harrowing combo. It's not the strongest combo, but it feels so satisfying freezing / making unable to block half my opponent's board.
Dot Esports just did a post yesterday saying Riot confirmed to them that the new functionality is intentional and that the "addressing" will be to reworded the card's text to match its adjusted functionality. No cited tweets or postings there so no 2nd party verification, but Dot Esports is generally reliable news.
Very disappointing if its true. Sure, the original Harrow effect is crazy powerful, but for 10 mana you're supposed to get something that's probably game-winning if you don't have an immediate answer/counter. Look at Brightsteel Formation, Minah Swiftfoot, and She Who Wanders for comparables. (Also arguably Warmother's CallingBADCARDNAME, which won't win you the game outright but once you get it out it will definitely put your opponent on a clock) And the worst part is: its still disgusting when combo'ed with Hecarim--it allows him to level up so long as you have 1 prior ephemeral attack, and you only need 2 Hecarim to guarantee a full attack--so all it really does is hamper creativity in using the card in different ways. Very disappointing.
I'm new here and I wandering in here wondering the same question myself, what happens when I finish the region rewards. Still haven't found an definite answer, but I will know myself in the next two days. Tomorrow if I decide to grind it out. I just need the last level in Noxus and need 5000 XP. I can tell completing all the regions will not earn you every card in the game.
On a personal level, I really like everything they are doing here: basically taking what was already a very generous model and making it even more generous. The only thing that gives me cause to hesitate is: are they sure this isn't going to jeopardize their revenue? Basically: any daily F2P player should have NO problem collecting the full set under these rules, so major conditions people will be actually spending gold will be
Cosmetics,
Too impatient to wait ~8 weeks, and
New infrequent player that wants to catch up.
Morally that all sounds great; I just hope that financially its enough--it's a far cry from the other 2 digital CCGs on the block.
You're also assuming a going 0-2 twice, which is extremely pessimistic--the median result is probably 4-5 wins.
But overall I really like this. Expeditions were starting to feel like a chore to me--I felt like I needed to convert my free token into a random champion ASAP every week, but at the same time I didn't want to blow it so I'd end up procrastinating until the weekend. This way, you get epics, which are still pretty good but not "I need to redeem this ASAP to see if it helps me build a new deck" good.
Except for the fact EVERYONE is going to be playing demon hunter, so there will be a frustrating number of mirror matches. :-P
On the plus side: there's a ton of awesome stuff here. The mutate mechanic might be the coolest CCG mechanic I've ever seen, the "monster" theme is very exciting, and who doesn't want to play with Godzilla and Mothra?
On the minus side: it's still not enough to call me back to MtG, and if this can't do it for me that means nothing ever will. :-/ But I do sincerely hope that those of you who are still in it enjoy this on my behalf.
Dear Us 2 Weeks Ago,
You were all fools. Corina is now super popular--she's in like 10-20% of decks right now, as people really love how she can answer bannerman. Most decks run Elise, Ledros, Corina, and just tons of removal spells.
Never underestimate how quickly the meta can change everything in this game.
Sincerely,
Us 2 Weeks Later
Did you play through all the tutorial missions? I know they can be a little dull, but they do cover things like this and they also give you a respectable amount of bonus XP.
The trick with Draven is knowing when and when not to try to progress him. Sometimes, you want to just keep him as a 3/3 quick attack that generates axes--you never HAVE to play them. They make great Rummage targets. And as you see in the video: it does feel really bad when you spend an ax + card just to be denied progression. If you DO upgrade him all the way, though, he becomes a beast.
Edit: and I forgot, it's also nice to hold them in hand and just to be able to "threaten" using them--it means your opponent has to be cautious of any blocks were his unit survives at 1 HP.
It seems like in general, Druid is getting a lot of utility options in this expansion without any real "tent poles" outside of the meme-potential of Ysiel Windsinger. And honestly, that's probably a good thing: Druid has a lot of identity in the current meta with multiple viable archetypes (Embiggen, token, AND quest), so it's more deserving of generic cards than the proverbial shot in the arm that other classes like Shaman and Warlock need.
If you're trying to make the decklist appear here like Hellcopter did, you need to:
At least, that's the most straightforward way I've found. If anyone has a better way, please share.
Marcus Tullius Cicero said that friendship "improves happiness, and abates misery, by doubling our joys, and dividing our grief.”
...If you're asking whether there are any quantifiable benefits to having in-game friends, though, the answer is that there are none.
Actually, I do sometimes. It's usually when I either haven't had time or just haven't wanted to play in a few days, so I know my quests are stacking up and I just want to clear as many as I can in ~60 minutes. Or maybe I've just been really enjoying the weekly brawl or Battlegrounds, so I haven't been taking the time to "grind" my dailies. Regardless: the 10 extra gold from completing a difficult quest is 5-6x the lost gold if your quest queue is full.
Oh I actually love these changes overall. Currently the only palpable value the vaults are giving me each week are the champions, and I'd much rather get mine up front than need to spend ~2-3 hours doing two expedition trials to see who I open. Plus I really appreciate how even super-casual players are given consequential rewards for putting in a bare minimum each week. I was just concerned with what to do in the immediate future since I had 2 tokens and a lot of missing champions.
Respectfully disagree. High mana cards are meant to be game-swinging bombs; contrast with Brightsteel Formation, Minah Swiftfoot, She Who Wanders, and Warmother's Call. I do admit that Harrowing + Hecarim is disgusting, but I think that's moreso Hecarim's fault than Harrowing.
Add on top of this: all 5 of the aforementioned cards have fallen out of meta favor recently, which is no coincidence. The only decks that want to go past Round 10 are relying on either Karma, Ezreal, or (depending on generous you classify the meta) Anivia--everything else wants (read: NEEDS) to close out the game earlier. That's a big problem, IMHO.
It's official now, and you were correct, sir. 1000 shards is so much worse than the champion wildcard (unless you already have all 72 champions, but if you do, I'm guessing you don't have too many unused tokens floating around).
I was sitting on one. Will have to spend it tonight before the patch goes into effect...
Ah; missed that part of the article--thank you!
Re: in the future, expeditions will be cheaper but only guarantee epics instead of champions - https://outof.cards/legends-of-runeterra/1032-the-full-details-on-expedition-reward-updates-in-runeterras-093-patch-arriving-march-31
Do you guys think this mean we should expend all our expedition tokens before Tuesday? Because unless they do some type of compensation, you'll effectively "loose" your free champion. Given how generous they are in general, I wouldn't be surprised if they DID do something even more generous (e.g., everyone gets 1 free champion wildcard per unused token when the patch goes live), but that seems like a pretty big gamble. And I don't know if we'll get an official answer (if any) before the patch notes Monday 11am PT, which only leaves 24 hours before the patch goes live. It's been weighing on me, so I was wondering what y'all thought.
My personal opinion: no, not at all. I think she might be one of the best balanced heroes in the game.
If you think that's good, you should check out Trifarian Hopeful--its a 5/2 for only 2 mana! Spoiler: it's not actually that good, because having high attack is meaningless if just get value-traded by a 3/1.
Roughly half the champions do something cool every time they attack; Ashe's ability is probably better than average but still not as good as say Zed or Anivia.
I consider it a minor miracle whenever an Ashe deck survives long enough to cast Crystal Arrow. Honestly, I think your frustrations have more to do with you personally not playing around frostbites well moreso than Frejlord being too powerful. Try playing assuming your opponent always has a frostbite card in hand. Don't overcommit combat tricks as long as your opponent has mana to cast. Ashe has trouble dealing with wide boards; try to take advantage of that. Once Ashe starts to near level, start planning to deal with her arrow. After the opponent draws it: always open attack so you deny them the opportunity to freeze you first.
Good luck!
I LOVE my Ashe + The Harrowing combo. It's not the strongest combo, but it feels so satisfying freezing / making unable to block half my opponent's board.
AneviaBADCARDNAME + Dawn and Dusk is another not-strongest-but-fun combo. Also: The Rekindler + Kalista, Battering Ram + Katarina, and any of the ways to cheat multiple Teemo on the board simultaneously.
Dot Esports just did a post yesterday saying Riot confirmed to them that the new functionality is intentional and that the "addressing" will be to reworded the card's text to match its adjusted functionality. No cited tweets or postings there so no 2nd party verification, but Dot Esports is generally reliable news.
Very disappointing if its true. Sure, the original Harrow effect is crazy powerful, but for 10 mana you're supposed to get something that's probably game-winning if you don't have an immediate answer/counter. Look at Brightsteel Formation, Minah Swiftfoot, and She Who Wanders for comparables. (Also arguably Warmother's CallingBADCARDNAME, which won't win you the game outright but once you get it out it will definitely put your opponent on a clock) And the worst part is: its still disgusting when combo'ed with Hecarim--it allows him to level up so long as you have 1 prior ephemeral attack, and you only need 2 Hecarim to guarantee a full attack--so all it really does is hamper creativity in using the card in different ways. Very disappointing.
This question has been answered since--see https://outof.cards/forums/legends-of-runeterra/runeterra-general/3231-progression-after-completing-regional-rewards
Short answer: nothing now, but once the base game and/or expansions launch then there will be a "season road" that you continue afterwards.
On a personal level, I really like everything they are doing here: basically taking what was already a very generous model and making it even more generous. The only thing that gives me cause to hesitate is: are they sure this isn't going to jeopardize their revenue? Basically: any daily F2P player should have NO problem collecting the full set under these rules, so major conditions people will be actually spending gold will be
Morally that all sounds great; I just hope that financially its enough--it's a far cry from the other 2 digital CCGs on the block.
You're also assuming a going 0-2 twice, which is extremely pessimistic--the median result is probably 4-5 wins.
But overall I really like this. Expeditions were starting to feel like a chore to me--I felt like I needed to convert my free token into a random champion ASAP every week, but at the same time I didn't want to blow it so I'd end up procrastinating until the weekend. This way, you get epics, which are still pretty good but not "I need to redeem this ASAP to see if it helps me build a new deck" good.