Some of those :spell locked" slots could still be some sort of solo content. But yeah, hopefully cheaper despite more cards per set now... At least I assume there will be more than 135 anyway with the new class. Duplicate protection helps with that some.
Or you can profit 1600 dust if you don't already have it and create it golden. -3200 to create it golden, +3200 refund, then disenchant for +1600.
NOTE: This does NOT work if you already have a normal copy. If you already have a normal copy, you'll just get 1600 free dust already. Crafting it golden and then disenchanting the golden gets you no extra dust at all.
Reviving this thread as it's about time again...
I believe you are incorrect. In past years when things move to HoF you get credited back the dust refund of the most expensive copy you own without having to disenchant any cards. So if you craft a golden legendary and already own a regular copy, when it gets sent to HoF you will get 3200 dust without DE. Then after the rotation you could DE the golden if you like, keep the regular copy, and you've profited 1600 dust from the DE. You will NOT get dust refunded for both the regular and golden copy however, only the most expensive USABLE version you have. "Usable" as in how many copies can be in a deck at the same time.
This means if you have two golden copies of a legendary being rotated to HoF, you get credit back for only one because one copy is all you can put in a deck when you build it. If you have two normal cards of any other rarity and one golden copy you get credit for the golden and one regular as two copies are the most you can use in a deck. You can of course DE any of these cards/copies after rotation to further your dust accumulation.
So in this rotation, we have heard in the leak that Prophet Velen is going HoF. In my case I have a regular copy already, but I will likely craft a golden copy as well. At the expansion release and the start of the new Hearthstone year, I will see 3200 dust hit my account as the golden copy is my most valuable usable copy. This 3200 refund cancels out the -3200 I spent to craft the golden. However, I will likely then DE the golden for +1600 profit and craft a legendary of my choice.
Investing in golden copies of rotating cards is the BEST way to invest dust in the game right before a HoF rotation IF YOU PLAN ON DUSTING AFTER THE ROTATION. If you are planning on keeping them for Wild, you are still basically getting free cards with no net profit or loss on dust. Even if you have normal copies of a card going HoF and you want a golden copy for Wild, you can still have a small net gain by crafting the golden version(s) prior to the rotation and then dusting the regular copies after they move.
I was watching Kibler after this came out and to every question he was like "You guys talk about it all you want, I am waiting to discuss it until tomorrow after the stream." So yeah, NDA "cannot confirm nor deny" type of talk. The main thing I'm wondering now though... Is there more that wasn't in the article?! A tournament mode perhaps?!?! We shall see tomorrow.
But seriously, the introduction of one new class opens the gates to a possible 11th, or even 12th class in the future. Even if they have plans to add a Monk, and maybe even an actual Death Knight class in the future, they will likely only do one a year. At most one an expansion, but more likely one a year.
Even just adding one is going to require a slight retooling of the UI if you think about it. Even if it's just making a list of the classes instead of the 9 class grid for things like deck building, or even for deck slots themselves, something has to be changed to accommodate the 10th class. My guess is that if this Demon Hunter class is real they'll make the class selection into a list that you can scroll through rather than a grid. Same potentially for deck slots, but maybe not.
Also, maybe we'll get more deck slots? Maybe another 9 if they stay with the grid look for deck slots. I could speculate all night on various aspects of the leak, but in 14 hours we'll have the real truth from Blizzard directly so I'm good. Can't wait to see Kibler play a DH vs Priest match on stream!
Not that Tentacles gets played ever in Wild but, RIP Tentacles! For a new player not understanding Tentacles came first, they may end up wondering why Old Gods had a worse version of a Basic card. LOL
Yeah, a lot of their class cards are very aggro focused on first look. But that 7 mana weapon for one seems very control based. I could see a world where you could use class cards for early game and card draw to establish early board control. Then later use larger and powerful neutrals and this weapon to switch tactics later in the game to a more control based focus to keep your early board control while still building power on board with hero power and more minions.
Would make for an interesting play style. Will need to see more cards to really know what can be done.
I like this! Completely unexpected. I’m guessing we’ll get a slight UI overhaul to accommodate the additional class. This also opens possibilities of Monk being added, maybe an actual DK class too
If Kibler's coming in (or joining from home due to Corona virus?) I would assume we're going to get to see a little bit of game play. Maybe even some live play to showcase a new feature... like, perhaps... a short 4 player competition in a tournament mode?!?!
The big to-do is not likely just for the expansion, but to reveal some of the big new stuff that "will cement Hearthstone for the next decade". So why not throw in the year/expansion reveal too, right?!
Kibler's involvement and his use of Twitch to stream are likely not why they chose to include Twitch in the stream. Most likely they are doing both YouTube and Twitch because that's what they've done for reveal streams since maybe Kobolds... I think. Or Witchwood. Regardless, I don't recall if they've done it every reveal, but they've done it for several of them over the past couple years.
The YouTube exclusive streaming deal they announced before are for e-sports streams. The contract between YouTube and Activision Blizzard involves all their games, from HS, to Overwatch, and Call of Duty. It was similar to the contract they had with Twitch two year prior, but reportedly Activision Blizzard got paid about double the money compared to the Twitch contract.
My guess is announcement with reveals starting the following week. But they could realistically start the next day, or a few days after. Perhaps the Friday, March 20th is most likely since they'll probably want to stretch it out over 2 weeks and final reveal will need to be prior to pre-release events the weekend of April 3-5. With that in mind, final reveal (if they have one) would probably be Thursday, April 2.
Thought of this one but got distracted and didn't submit in time. Thought I'd share it anyway. May not exactly fit the rules as it's not taking from hand, board, or deck, but I saw a few submissions while voting that took things from the graveyard as well. So I guess it would have worked... Oh well, next time! Good luck to all who submitted.
The “add a copy to your hand” isn’t necessary unless you were adding 2 copies. But I guess it would have to to fit the theme
Yeah, I wasn't really sure it fit anyway like I said. It copies from the graveyard instead of hands, board, or decks. I also thought of making it a "summon" instead, but I think Priest has enough summon big things tactics, though this one would be much less reliable as it's pulling dead enemy minions
Thought of this one but got distracted and didn't submit in time. Thought I'd share it anyway. May not exactly fit the rules as it's not taking from hand, board, or deck, but I saw a few submissions while voting that took things from the graveyard as well. So I guess it would have worked... Oh well, next time! Good luck to all who submitted.
I'm hoping for Mountain Giant , but only for selfish reasons. I don't typically care about having golden cards, but I have a golden version of MG I'm holding in case it ever gets sent to the HoF and I want a free legendary off of that thing!!!
One thing that came up in the "nerfs tease" is that one card from Year of the Dragon would get unnerfed. My first thought was a Shaman card from recent nerfs as Shaman has been in the shitter lately. But if MG rotates, could it be Conjurer's Calling?
Weird... I started a run on the weekend for this sole purpose, sitting at 4-2... it's still active.
Pretty sure I have a few cards from sets like Frozen Throne, so it's not like I drafted it after the rotation. Even restarted the game and came back in, still active!
EDIT: I was playing on PC, had to not only close the game, but also the launcher. Once I reloaded the launcher and opened the game again, I not only got my free ticket and rewards for the 4 win run, but all the birthday celebration stuff launched too.
As Wild continues to grow, these bundles for Wild should be a “build your own bundle” style. “Choose any combination of # wild packs for $.” Maybe next year they’ll do something like that as opposed to 1-2 packs from every Wild set...
The other option is bundles for a specific “year”, with the exception being the first two years grouped together to exclude Adventures.
Some of those :spell locked" slots could still be some sort of solo content. But yeah, hopefully cheaper despite more cards per set now... At least I assume there will be more than 135 anyway with the new class. Duplicate protection helps with that some.
I care less about the ranks or “leagues” as Dean called them. But dat loot tho! Give it to me NO
For a very clear explanation of how Hall of Fame refunds work, check out this page:
https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Hall_of_Fame#Dust_refunds
Reviving this thread as it's about time again...
I believe you are incorrect. In past years when things move to HoF you get credited back the dust refund of the most expensive copy you own without having to disenchant any cards. So if you craft a golden legendary and already own a regular copy, when it gets sent to HoF you will get 3200 dust without DE. Then after the rotation you could DE the golden if you like, keep the regular copy, and you've profited 1600 dust from the DE. You will NOT get dust refunded for both the regular and golden copy however, only the most expensive USABLE version you have. "Usable" as in how many copies can be in a deck at the same time.
This means if you have two golden copies of a legendary being rotated to HoF, you get credit back for only one because one copy is all you can put in a deck when you build it. If you have two normal cards of any other rarity and one golden copy you get credit for the golden and one regular as two copies are the most you can use in a deck. You can of course DE any of these cards/copies after rotation to further your dust accumulation.
So in this rotation, we have heard in the leak that Prophet Velen is going HoF. In my case I have a regular copy already, but I will likely craft a golden copy as well. At the expansion release and the start of the new Hearthstone year, I will see 3200 dust hit my account as the golden copy is my most valuable usable copy. This 3200 refund cancels out the -3200 I spent to craft the golden. However, I will likely then DE the golden for +1600 profit and craft a legendary of my choice.
Investing in golden copies of rotating cards is the BEST way to invest dust in the game right before a HoF rotation IF YOU PLAN ON DUSTING AFTER THE ROTATION. If you are planning on keeping them for Wild, you are still basically getting free cards with no net profit or loss on dust. Even if you have normal copies of a card going HoF and you want a golden copy for Wild, you can still have a small net gain by crafting the golden version(s) prior to the rotation and then dusting the regular copies after they move.
I was watching Kibler after this came out and to every question he was like "You guys talk about it all you want, I am waiting to discuss it until tomorrow after the stream." So yeah, NDA "cannot confirm nor deny" type of talk. The main thing I'm wondering now though... Is there more that wasn't in the article?! A tournament mode perhaps?!?! We shall see tomorrow.
You misspelled Kobolds and Catacombs, which is the set Lesser Pearl Spellstone came out in.
But seriously, the introduction of one new class opens the gates to a possible 11th, or even 12th class in the future. Even if they have plans to add a Monk, and maybe even an actual Death Knight class in the future, they will likely only do one a year. At most one an expansion, but more likely one a year.
Even just adding one is going to require a slight retooling of the UI if you think about it. Even if it's just making a list of the classes instead of the 9 class grid for things like deck building, or even for deck slots themselves, something has to be changed to accommodate the 10th class. My guess is that if this Demon Hunter class is real they'll make the class selection into a list that you can scroll through rather than a grid. Same potentially for deck slots, but maybe not.
Also, maybe we'll get more deck slots? Maybe another 9 if they stay with the grid look for deck slots. I could speculate all night on various aspects of the leak, but in 14 hours we'll have the real truth from Blizzard directly so I'm good. Can't wait to see Kibler play a DH vs Priest match on stream!
Power Infusion > Power Word: Tentacles.
Not that Tentacles gets played ever in Wild but, RIP Tentacles! For a new player not understanding Tentacles came first, they may end up wondering why Old Gods had a worse version of a Basic card. LOL
Yeah, a lot of their class cards are very aggro focused on first look. But that 7 mana weapon for one seems very control based. I could see a world where you could use class cards for early game and card draw to establish early board control. Then later use larger and powerful neutrals and this weapon to switch tactics later in the game to a more control based focus to keep your early board control while still building power on board with hero power and more minions.
Would make for an interesting play style. Will need to see more cards to really know what can be done.
I like this! Completely unexpected. I’m guessing we’ll get a slight UI overhaul to accommodate the additional class. This also opens possibilities of Monk being added, maybe an actual DK class too
Just going to leave this here
https://youtu.be/L-NSPhLHIBA
If it's 30 packs for $20... Maybe. You have my attention. ... I'm in!
If Kibler's coming in (or joining from home due to Corona virus?) I would assume we're going to get to see a little bit of game play. Maybe even some live play to showcase a new feature... like, perhaps... a short 4 player competition in a tournament mode?!?!
I don't know, I'm just guessing.
The big to-do is not likely just for the expansion, but to reveal some of the big new stuff that "will cement Hearthstone for the next decade". So why not throw in the year/expansion reveal too, right?!
Kibler's involvement and his use of Twitch to stream are likely not why they chose to include Twitch in the stream. Most likely they are doing both YouTube and Twitch because that's what they've done for reveal streams since maybe Kobolds... I think. Or Witchwood. Regardless, I don't recall if they've done it every reveal, but they've done it for several of them over the past couple years.
The YouTube exclusive streaming deal they announced before are for e-sports streams. The contract between YouTube and Activision Blizzard involves all their games, from HS, to Overwatch, and Call of Duty. It was similar to the contract they had with Twitch two year prior, but reportedly Activision Blizzard got paid about double the money compared to the Twitch contract.
My guess is announcement with reveals starting the following week. But they could realistically start the next day, or a few days after. Perhaps the Friday, March 20th is most likely since they'll probably want to stretch it out over 2 weeks and final reveal will need to be prior to pre-release events the weekend of April 3-5. With that in mind, final reveal (if they have one) would probably be Thursday, April 2.
Yeah, I wasn't really sure it fit anyway like I said. It copies from the graveyard instead of hands, board, or decks. I also thought of making it a "summon" instead, but I think Priest has enough summon big things tactics, though this one would be much less reliable as it's pulling dead enemy minions
Thought of this one but got distracted and didn't submit in time. Thought I'd share it anyway. May not exactly fit the rules as it's not taking from hand, board, or deck, but I saw a few submissions while voting that took things from the graveyard as well. So I guess it would have worked... Oh well, next time! Good luck to all who submitted.
I'm hoping for Mountain Giant , but only for selfish reasons. I don't typically care about having golden cards, but I have a golden version of MG I'm holding in case it ever gets sent to the HoF and I want a free legendary off of that thing!!!
One thing that came up in the "nerfs tease" is that one card from Year of the Dragon would get unnerfed. My first thought was a Shaman card from recent nerfs as Shaman has been in the shitter lately. But if MG rotates, could it be Conjurer's Calling?
Weird... I started a run on the weekend for this sole purpose, sitting at 4-2... it's still active.
Pretty sure I have a few cards from sets like Frozen Throne, so it's not like I drafted it after the rotation. Even restarted the game and came back in, still active!
EDIT: I was playing on PC, had to not only close the game, but also the launcher. Once I reloaded the launcher and opened the game again, I not only got my free ticket and rewards for the 4 win run, but all the birthday celebration stuff launched too.
As Wild continues to grow, these bundles for Wild should be a “build your own bundle” style. “Choose any combination of # wild packs for $.” Maybe next year they’ll do something like that as opposed to 1-2 packs from every Wild set...
The other option is bundles for a specific “year”, with the exception being the first two years grouped together to exclude Adventures.