If you read their whole post they've taken 5 years to determine the strengths, weaknesses, and limitations of each class. One weakness they want for Rogue is board clear, and Vanish is a board clear. Hence they decided to remove it. It's existence and persistence in Standard was also apparently limiting their design space for some other rogue cards they wanted to print. Or something..
Yeah, even a card to restore 5 health to a friendly character would have been better than this. Would have rather seen a Flash Heal reprint as the replacement really.
Open a Wild shop permanently that lets us choose whether to buy packs/adventures with gold or money, Blizzard. Is it really that hard to implement?
I could see it potentially bogging down the mobile client on the shop, but even if that's the case they could make it all available for gold or cash purchase on the pc client and keep Wild purchases off the mobile store. If a mobile only player finds logging with their pc to make that purchase too inconvenient, oh well! At least they’d have the option somewhere
Would be cool if you could get a random wild pack every 5-10 wins, though I'm not going to hold my breath :P
I personally would love to see a new game mode in a similar vein as how Arena is set up now. A "Limited Wild" constructed play mode. Maybe have a different ladder set up, have the season length and the packs available for deck building be the same as the Arena rotations to make it easy, maybe have special quests added in that earn you a few Wild packs used in the current Limited Wild card pool...
It's not that different from the current constructed format really, but it's still another way to play Hearthstone, and if the rewards are geared towards giving out Wild only packs it helps bring newer players into the Wild spectrum by giving them an easy way to earn more Wild cards. And if they do go for a very different ladder set up they could use this mode to test a new ladder system for the entire game if they wanted to.
Might have to give this one a try. Likely will try to make a similar build with the Immortal Prelate, Mechano-Egg, and Da Undatakah package. But I know the Immortal stuff doesn't work great against fast decks. Personally love this style of Paladin. Used to run a "Buff Copy" deck with [Hearthstone Card (Vala'nyr) Not Found], Saronite Chain Gang, Echoing Ooze, and Doppelgangster for the multiple copies of minions with the weapon deathrattle. It kind of died with the SCG change.
The weird thing is that it states the reason is "advertising" but also mentions "Our forums are not a place for you to advertise your own website."
I'm guessing you don't own OoC, Uilebol. And I also assume you have no real affiliation with them. So "advertising your own site" doesn't really apply as a reason here.
It also bothers me as I have seen so many threads in the past from people advertising their Twitch stream, etc, and some of those threads had a VERY long history of posts by the streamer promoting their own content on the forums. Where was their warning? Or the deletion of their posts? I know it's a different crew in charge now. So sre those threads being taken down and dealt with now as advertising? Or what about when people would make comments/suggestions to other users on the forums that HS Replay had the data they needed and to check there for deck lists, etc?
I guess it's only breaking the rules if you're mentioning a competing site that could be directly siphoning off their user base? HearthPwn really either should have stuck to their guns and let the site die or sold to Flux!
Sometimes I have to hit the button a few times, on both this site and others. Not sure if it doesn't copy correctly, or if it's something like I copy when HS isn't open, and then opening the program somehow it doesn't recognize the code? Doesn't really make sense, but if I don't copy and immediately go to create a new deck it happens occasionally.
Another trick is to open a new deck, copy the code, then click back into HS and it should copy over. I just copied this one.
Wish the hero skin was Mage, Hunter, or Warrior. I already have two alt skins for Shaman. And I’m trying to avoid Shaman as it’s the only class I have my golden hero for. I’m way over the 500 wins for that class and in some I’m only around half way!
With the current Dalaran themed expansion a Mage hero would have been better (like making Khadgar available again...?).
It's because the Echo copies are technically additional cards you get that disappear from your hand when that turn ends. So if you play a discounter like Galvanizer, it discounts the Mechs in your hand. If you then play Snip at 2 mana, the Echo copy is playable at 3 because Galvanizer was not played with that Echo copy in hand. Same would happen if you played a Glowstone Technician that buffs all minions in hand. The Echo copy of a buffed minion would have original stats because the Echo copy was not in hand when the buff was played.
Taverns of Time was nothing more than a fun event centered around Toki. And I don't remember specific cards made for Brawl. I do remember special event cards for Arena. While some of those cards may have been tests for ideas later used in future sets, I think you're reading into it a little too much. I mean the effect from playing Possibility Seeker became Plot Twist, however, the RoS cards would have been in very early development still when the Taverns event happened. See what I mean? Hinting at future cards: maybe not. Using them later as inspiration: definitely.
Also, your Mage example seems a little weak. Mage has almost always been more about tempo and spells. But when your strongest win condition is [Hearthstone Card (Frostlich Jaina) Not Found] you have to find a way to survive until the late game and that's what Big Spell Mage did. That and it paired well with [Hearthstone Card (Dragoncaller Allana) Not Found]. Clear out aggro boards until they run out of steam or until you can play your DK, start making Water Elementals and get to Lifestealing the crap out of your opponent's minions and face.
I will say that I was just thinking yesterday about the Fire Festival we've had for two consecutive years now in Hearthstone. It started last year right after the Taverns event. I guess the free legendary is the extra rewards this time instead of extra gold and free dust. But I do hope we see a double gold event again for the Fire Festival this year! Maybe a special legendary quest or two as well.
The fact that no one is using it should tell you something.
I use Prelate, but not for the actual buffed Prelate. Instead I play it for the deathrattle to add it to Da Undatakah along with things like Mechano-Egg or Mechanical Whelp. It was better before the nerfs as it could ramp up and beat Warriors with one minion that would die and spawn an army of 8/8 dino mechs after playing it a few times, while also going back into my deck so you could refill again later. The buffed Prelate was bonus!
With the rise of other decks and a little less Warrior lately it is a little slow in the meta. But still a ton of fun!
Wow i don't know we can play co-op in Hearthstone.. Wish we have more like this, really like this brawl...!!!
There were a couple other co-op brawls but they all follow a similar pattern. We've battled Mechazod together a few times, and a few New Year's brawls were co-op as well. Again, similar styles between those and this one. Just different bosses and different effects from the bosses, different cards in our decks to combat the boss, etc
so it works with a friend and i get the pack? didnt know that, thanks
You can always get the free pack from playing Brawl against friends and winning. Not just with this one. In fact if you had two accounts and devices you could play this co-op brawl in solo mode
The only thing in this post that I'd agree with is that preventing new runs from starting 6-8 hours prior to a rotation is excessive. Maybe 1-2 hours prior is enough.
To look at both sides though, what if someone is playing an Arena run right up to rotation and they are on pace for their first ever 12-0 finish? Then before they can get there the rotation happens, their run expires and they are forced to start over before hitting that 12-0? That wouldn't feel very good either.
So what this discussion boils down to is there is no clear cut way to make everyone happy. The way things are now don't seem to bother too many people as this is literally the first time I've ever heard a complaint about it, and as we know from the Internet people with complaints are typically very vocal about them. Therefore, if it were upsetting a lot of people, the Arena lockouts would have as many forum posts about them as Big Priest does.
My guess is that with Mind Blast being sent to HoF, Priest is likely to get some good stuff next expansion.
If you read their whole post they've taken 5 years to determine the strengths, weaknesses, and limitations of each class. One weakness they want for Rogue is board clear, and Vanish is a board clear. Hence they decided to remove it. It's existence and persistence in Standard was also apparently limiting their design space for some other rogue cards they wanted to print. Or something..
Yeah, even a card to restore 5 health to a friendly character would have been better than this. Would have rather seen a Flash Heal reprint as the replacement really.
It’s a pretty accurate representation of the Brightwing in Heroes of the Storm. Which is made more cartoonish to give the character more personality.
Why isn't this a permanent play mode with monthly rotating sets?!?!
I could see it potentially bogging down the mobile client on the shop, but even if that's the case they could make it all available for gold or cash purchase on the pc client and keep Wild purchases off the mobile store. If a mobile only player finds logging with their pc to make that purchase too inconvenient, oh well! At least they’d have the option somewhere
I personally would love to see a new game mode in a similar vein as how Arena is set up now. A "Limited Wild" constructed play mode. Maybe have a different ladder set up, have the season length and the packs available for deck building be the same as the Arena rotations to make it easy, maybe have special quests added in that earn you a few Wild packs used in the current Limited Wild card pool...
It's not that different from the current constructed format really, but it's still another way to play Hearthstone, and if the rewards are geared towards giving out Wild only packs it helps bring newer players into the Wild spectrum by giving them an easy way to earn more Wild cards. And if they do go for a very different ladder set up they could use this mode to test a new ladder system for the entire game if they wanted to.
Might have to give this one a try. Likely will try to make a similar build with the Immortal Prelate, Mechano-Egg, and Da Undatakah package. But I know the Immortal stuff doesn't work great against fast decks. Personally love this style of Paladin. Used to run a "Buff Copy" deck with [Hearthstone Card (Vala'nyr) Not Found], Saronite Chain Gang, Echoing Ooze, and Doppelgangster for the multiple copies of minions with the weapon deathrattle. It kind of died with the SCG change.
The weird thing is that it states the reason is "advertising" but also mentions "Our forums are not a place for you to advertise your own website."
I'm guessing you don't own OoC, Uilebol. And I also assume you have no real affiliation with them. So "advertising your own site" doesn't really apply as a reason here.
It also bothers me as I have seen so many threads in the past from people advertising their Twitch stream, etc, and some of those threads had a VERY long history of posts by the streamer promoting their own content on the forums. Where was their warning? Or the deletion of their posts? I know it's a different crew in charge now. So sre those threads being taken down and dealt with now as advertising? Or what about when people would make comments/suggestions to other users on the forums that HS Replay had the data they needed and to check there for deck lists, etc?
I guess it's only breaking the rules if you're mentioning a competing site that could be directly siphoning off their user base? HearthPwn really either should have stuck to their guns and let the site die or sold to Flux!
Sometimes I have to hit the button a few times, on both this site and others. Not sure if it doesn't copy correctly, or if it's something like I copy when HS isn't open, and then opening the program somehow it doesn't recognize the code? Doesn't really make sense, but if I don't copy and immediately go to create a new deck it happens occasionally.
Another trick is to open a new deck, copy the code, then click back into HS and it should copy over. I just copied this one.
Wish the hero skin was Mage, Hunter, or Warrior. I already have two alt skins for Shaman. And I’m trying to avoid Shaman as it’s the only class I have my golden hero for. I’m way over the 500 wins for that class and in some I’m only around half way!
With the current Dalaran themed expansion a Mage hero would have been better (like making Khadgar available again...?).
All I have to say is... what in the hell is a “HearthPwn”??? Never heard of that (dead to me) site!
Thanks for the tip! Emerald Goggles, Shielded Minibot with (+2) mana and +4/+4 which always starts in hand, Banana Split, and infinite Sound the Bells!.
How was your Turn 1?!?! LOL
It's because the Echo copies are technically additional cards you get that disappear from your hand when that turn ends. So if you play a discounter like Galvanizer, it discounts the Mechs in your hand. If you then play Snip at 2 mana, the Echo copy is playable at 3 because Galvanizer was not played with that Echo copy in hand. Same would happen if you played a Glowstone Technician that buffs all minions in hand. The Echo copy of a buffed minion would have original stats because the Echo copy was not in hand when the buff was played.
I love that all three of the Warlock hero powers are “Take 2 Damage” and do something else. Talk about on theme!!!
Taverns of Time was nothing more than a fun event centered around Toki. And I don't remember specific cards made for Brawl. I do remember special event cards for Arena. While some of those cards may have been tests for ideas later used in future sets, I think you're reading into it a little too much. I mean the effect from playing Possibility Seeker became Plot Twist, however, the RoS cards would have been in very early development still when the Taverns event happened. See what I mean? Hinting at future cards: maybe not. Using them later as inspiration: definitely.
Also, your Mage example seems a little weak. Mage has almost always been more about tempo and spells. But when your strongest win condition is [Hearthstone Card (Frostlich Jaina) Not Found] you have to find a way to survive until the late game and that's what Big Spell Mage did. That and it paired well with [Hearthstone Card (Dragoncaller Allana) Not Found]. Clear out aggro boards until they run out of steam or until you can play your DK, start making Water Elementals and get to Lifestealing the crap out of your opponent's minions and face.
I will say that I was just thinking yesterday about the Fire Festival we've had for two consecutive years now in Hearthstone. It started last year right after the Taverns event. I guess the free legendary is the extra rewards this time instead of extra gold and free dust. But I do hope we see a double gold event again for the Fire Festival this year! Maybe a special legendary quest or two as well.
I use Prelate, but not for the actual buffed Prelate. Instead I play it for the deathrattle to add it to Da Undatakah along with things like Mechano-Egg or Mechanical Whelp. It was better before the nerfs as it could ramp up and beat Warriors with one minion that would die and spawn an army of 8/8 dino mechs after playing it a few times, while also going back into my deck so you could refill again later. The buffed Prelate was bonus!
With the rise of other decks and a little less Warrior lately it is a little slow in the meta. But still a ton of fun!
There were a couple other co-op brawls but they all follow a similar pattern. We've battled Mechazod together a few times, and a few New Year's brawls were co-op as well. Again, similar styles between those and this one. Just different bosses and different effects from the bosses, different cards in our decks to combat the boss, etc
You can always get the free pack from playing Brawl against friends and winning. Not just with this one. In fact if you had two accounts and devices you could play this co-op brawl in solo mode
The only thing in this post that I'd agree with is that preventing new runs from starting 6-8 hours prior to a rotation is excessive. Maybe 1-2 hours prior is enough.
To look at both sides though, what if someone is playing an Arena run right up to rotation and they are on pace for their first ever 12-0 finish? Then before they can get there the rotation happens, their run expires and they are forced to start over before hitting that 12-0? That wouldn't feel very good either.
So what this discussion boils down to is there is no clear cut way to make everyone happy. The way things are now don't seem to bother too many people as this is literally the first time I've ever heard a complaint about it, and as we know from the Internet people with complaints are typically very vocal about them. Therefore, if it were upsetting a lot of people, the Arena lockouts would have as many forum posts about them as Big Priest does.