Zerus was just a random legendary, which is obviously bad.
Chameleos isn't bad, there's just no real reason to run him since there is no real midrange Priest deck that could make use of knowing what the opponent has in their hand
The reason this is good is because it allows you to cheat certain legendaries for a cheaper mana cost. 5-mana 5/5 Tirion is great for example. 5/5 Thalnos isn't bad either.
It's not about consistency, it's about the potential to get a really good result that puts you ahead on the board while at worst you'll almost certainly get something relatively useful.
Just imagine if they didn't rotate out Genn at the start of the year...
This card is kinda cool, 5 damage, even if random, is a worrysome amount.
If this card somehow survives, and you can get Zilliax to magnetize it and shoot at the same turn you heal 11 and deal with a couple of threat (or just deal 5 to face and deal with one threat, which is the worst outcome and still insane) and still keeping this card on the board.ù
I think the card is worth to run in almost any hunter deck (not beasts if you want to draw 3) as if the opponent doesn't have a way to deal with it, it wins the game
If they did Doom in the Tomb they might bring Genn and Baku back for a limited time.
These were clearly designed as Even Hunter support.
but that's the thing though. He's not. He's an automatic win condition against any deck that wants to kill you but doesn't have much removal.
They either have to trade into it or kill you in one hit or else they'll set up lethal for you.
If they can't kill you or him then you just got him out for free and can capitalize on him over the next term.
He's bad in a vacuum, but remember you're probably building a deck that aims to keep you alive (Dragonlock namely) so all you really need is this guy, double Dragon Breeder and maybe some other lategame value generator and you have a plan.
Fatigue damage actually helps you in this case against Control decks. You auto summon a 6/6 at the start of every turn and if your opponent is out of removal that might be enough to win.
I think you're criminally underrating this. On average you will consistently get a playable result within 2-3 turns (by playable I mean a card that has above average value for its mana cost). However there are a number of results that will give you an insane tempo or value boost and can downright win you the game on teh spot, depending on the situation (I checked)
If Mogu Fleshshaper gets nerfed (by god I hope it will) and the Mutate package falls out of favour, this might just be played for the same reason: when it works out, it just takes the game on the spot.
You heard it here first: you're gonna hate to face this one eventually.
You can disagree, but this is the worst of the legendary dragons. It's insulting quite frankly.
IT's literally just an overgrown Diseased Vulture. It does nothign the turn it's played, so it's just a bundle of stats. It requires you to wait until turn 10 to even use it. The spawns don't even have Rush, Taunt or Lifesteal, so you're basically getting a worse Jaraxxus Hero power on a stick. If said stick gets removed (and in 9/10 case it will) you basically wasted your time.
Aggro decks will just ignore it and deck you in the fact, Control decks will take care of it immediately.
They could have used the legendary Slot to give Warlock something they actually needed. A win condition, another control tool or just something playable. Instead we got a worse version of Jaraxxus. Unironically, If Jaraxxus got buffed to 8-mana he would be a better card than this piece of garbage.
just play Ysera if you need a lategame value generator...and if you need pressure, just play Plot twist Warlock and Run Nomi..
This is just a worse reprint of an epic card from the LAST EXPANSION. It's like a reverse Princess Huhuran.
I wanna punch whoever designed this failure in the face.
alright, because I am retarded you can ignore all that. Apparently this guy summons EVERYTIME you take damage, meaning he will summon stuff when your opponent punches you in the face, meaning that against every deck that actually aims to kill you he acts like a soft taunt, because by just going face they'd give you lethal essentially.
Not to mention he can be played together with Dragon Breeder, which means against control you can play up to 3 of them (and maybe even abuse fatigue damage to your advantage).
this could turn the aggro matchup into an intense balancing act where you attempt to preserve your health until you drop this and if they can't oneshot you in one turn or kill the guy you basically checkmated them.
Smaller Inkmaster Solia. She wasn’t good enough then, and isn’t good enough in Wild. Is the change in cost, condition, or meta enough? *shrug* I’ll try it if I get it.
one mana is a huge difference (allows Pyro + Fireball for isntance). Also you don't need to necessarily go Reno, not to mention Solia never saw Pocket Galaxy in Standard, so there's that.
Well, Reno Dragon Mage is looking pretty good right now.
If you use it with Blizzard and Flamestirke it's sort of like Arcane Tyrant. It also allows for a TTK (and potential OTk with Pocket Galaxy) with Alex, Pyroblast and Fireball.
If not reno then just regular Dragon Control. Probably one of the strongest Mage cards in a while.
I think people are underrating this one. There's plenty of Legendaries in the game that benefit heavily from being "downsized". Imagine a turn 5 Tirion....or Onyxia or even just Gruul.
On the other hand there's very few legendaries that aren't at least playable as 5-mana 5/5s. Wouldn't mind just throwing out a 5/5 Thalnos or even Nat Pagle.
The only truly bad results would be stuff like Deathwing or Millhouse....in which case you just wait a turn.
This fits the recurring Shaman thing of "pulling random stuff out of my ass to win me the game on the spot due to sheer RNG" (as previously seen in Evolve and Fleshshaper shenanigans)
The main difference to Shifter Zerus is the mana cost. If draw this before turn 5 there's a good chance that it will transform into something useful by the time you can play it.
I actually looked at all the available legendaries now and there's honestly not that many really bad outcomes. At worst you'd play this as just a blank 5/5 for tempo, which isn't the worst thing if the rest of your deck is solid...at best you can just win the game on the spot by cheating value.
a list of all the good outcomes (in terms of cost efficiency and occasional upside depending on which deck you're playing):
Lucentbark, Splintergraft, Cenarius, Houndmaster Shaw, Halazzi, Flark, Vereesa, King Krush, Emeriss, Arugal, Luna, Toki, Antonidas, Malacrass, Kalecgos, Kangor, Finley, Thekal, Glass Knight, Prince Liam, Tirion, Nozari, Shirvallah, Lazul, Amet, Lady in White, Bwonsamdi, Velen, Catrina Muerte, Princess Talanji, Van Cleef, Face Collector, Gral, Myra, Togwaggle, Electra, Zentimo, Vessina, Swamp qqueen Hagatha, Al'akir, Shudderwock, Jeklik, Tekhan, Dr. Morrigan, Glinda Crowskin, Rafaam, Godfrey, Betrug, Hir'eek, Jaraxxus, Voone, Darius Crowley, Armagedillo, Akali, Grom, Boom reaver, Thalnos, Nat Pagle, Brightwing, Zephrys (?), SnipSnap, Tinkmaster, Vargoth, Barista Lynchen, Greenskin, Dollmaster Dorian, Harrison Jones, Leeroy, Zilliax, Cairne, Hogger, Illidan, Mojomaster Zihi, The Black Knight, Azalina Soulthief, Baron Geddon, Ashmore, HI Whiteman, Siamat, Gruul, Jepetto, Octosari, Alexstraza, Malygos, Onyxia, Ysera, Colossus of the mOon, King Phaoris.
As far as value goes, the odds are in your favour, and every so often you might jusst get exactly what you need (Tekhan in Quest Shaman would be insane, Al'akir in aggro)
It's less bad than it looks, but it's still kind of pointless.
If you play this on an empty board (or a board you just traded into) you're most likely going to get some serious value out of it. 13/13 worth of stats for onlny 6-mana is pretty good and since they have rush you're not really wasting a turn (unless you're playing aggressively)
On the other hand, you can never just play this onto a board where your opponent can just trade into the eggs. At best it'll let you avoid some face damage or cause unfavorable trades for your opponent.
It's not as bad as Warlock or Druid's legendary dragon, but it just doesn't really seem like something you'd actively put into your deck....which is where Draconic Lackey comes in. It might not be a good card, but it's a decent thing to just drop on curve in a Quest Shaman deck if you have nothing better. Quest Shaman is a deck that has decent recovery and can afford a turn of bad tempo for a bigger swing later on.
In a deck that's built around this it's almost as good as Elven Minstrel
Mucklings are a theme for HAgatha apparently.
except it isn't, that's the point..
Zerus was just a random legendary, which is obviously bad.
Chameleos isn't bad, there's just no real reason to run him since there is no real midrange Priest deck that could make use of knowing what the opponent has in their hand
The reason this is good is because it allows you to cheat certain legendaries for a cheaper mana cost. 5-mana 5/5 Tirion is great for example. 5/5 Thalnos isn't bad either.
It's not about consistency, it's about the potential to get a really good result that puts you ahead on the board while at worst you'll almost certainly get something relatively useful.
While it looks disappointing it might just be a lot better than people give it credit for.
Dragon Shaman has LIghtning Breath, which is probably the strongest early board clear in the game (apart from Duskbreaker maybe).
If this comes down on an empty board you're almost guaranteed hatched eggs (unless your opponent plays a heavy rush deck).
Hell, even if you're behind this at least summons two soft taunts, so that's worth something.
At the end of the day it'll show up from Draconic Lackey from time to time, so don't count it out.
If they did Doom in the Tomb they might bring Genn and Baku back for a limited time.
These were clearly designed as Even Hunter support.
he also triggers on your opponents turn though
but that's the thing though. He's not. He's an automatic win condition against any deck that wants to kill you but doesn't have much removal.
They either have to trade into it or kill you in one hit or else they'll set up lethal for you.
If they can't kill you or him then you just got him out for free and can capitalize on him over the next term.
He's bad in a vacuum, but remember you're probably building a deck that aims to keep you alive (Dragonlock namely) so all you really need is this guy, double Dragon Breeder and maybe some other lategame value generator and you have a plan.
Fatigue damage actually helps you in this case against Control decks. You auto summon a 6/6 at the start of every turn and if your opponent is out of removal that might be enough to win.
I think you're criminally underrating this. On average you will consistently get a playable result within 2-3 turns (by playable I mean a card that has above average value for its mana cost). However there are a number of results that will give you an insane tempo or value boost and can downright win you the game on teh spot, depending on the situation (I checked)
If Mogu Fleshshaper gets nerfed (by god I hope it will) and the Mutate package falls out of favour, this might just be played for the same reason: when it works out, it just takes the game on the spot.
You heard it here first: you're gonna hate to face this one eventually.
that's an alpha move
they have. This is completely unnecessary and they won't run it
idk, people just tend to look at "big numbah" as an indicator of quality...even if it's essentially irrelevant these days.
Big stats + effect are only useful if you can actually use them consistently, which Cumulo can't (at least no by himself in any currently viable deck)
I personally blame Trump for this because he keeps reviewing cards as piles of stats instead of where they actually fit functionally.
You can disagree, but this is the worst of the legendary dragons. It's insulting quite frankly.
IT's literally just an overgrown Diseased Vulture. It does nothign the turn it's played, so it's just a bundle of stats. It requires you to wait until turn 10 to even use it. The spawns don't even have Rush, Taunt or Lifesteal, so you're basically getting a worse Jaraxxus Hero power on a stick. If said stick gets removed (and in 9/10 case it will) you basically wasted your time.
Aggro decks will just ignore it and deck you in the fact, Control decks will take care of it immediately.
They could have used the legendary Slot to give Warlock something they actually needed. A win condition, another control tool or just something playable. Instead we got a worse version of Jaraxxus. Unironically, If Jaraxxus got buffed to 8-mana he would be a better card than this piece of garbage.
just play Ysera if you need a lategame value generator...and if you need pressure, just play Plot twist Warlock and Run Nomi..
This is just a worse reprint of an epic card from the LAST EXPANSION. It's like a reverse Princess Huhuran.
I wanna punch whoever designed this failure in the face.
alright, because I am retarded you can ignore all that. Apparently this guy summons EVERYTIME you take damage, meaning he will summon stuff when your opponent punches you in the face, meaning that against every deck that actually aims to kill you he acts like a soft taunt, because by just going face they'd give you lethal essentially.
Not to mention he can be played together with Dragon Breeder, which means against control you can play up to 3 of them (and maybe even abuse fatigue damage to your advantage).
this could turn the aggro matchup into an intense balancing act where you attempt to preserve your health until you drop this and if they can't oneshot you in one turn or kill the guy you basically checkmated them.
one mana is a huge difference (allows Pyro + Fireball for isntance). Also you don't need to necessarily go Reno, not to mention Solia never saw Pocket Galaxy in Standard, so there's that.
Well, Reno Dragon Mage is looking pretty good right now.
If you use it with Blizzard and Flamestirke it's sort of like Arcane Tyrant. It also allows for a TTK (and potential OTk with Pocket Galaxy) with Alex, Pyroblast and Fireball.
If not reno then just regular Dragon Control. Probably one of the strongest Mage cards in a while.
pretty good early removal if reno Dragon mage is a thing
she's in good company with Princess Huhuran
Tempo Dragon Mage?
I think people are underrating this one. There's plenty of Legendaries in the game that benefit heavily from being "downsized". Imagine a turn 5 Tirion....or Onyxia or even just Gruul.
On the other hand there's very few legendaries that aren't at least playable as 5-mana 5/5s. Wouldn't mind just throwing out a 5/5 Thalnos or even Nat Pagle.
The only truly bad results would be stuff like Deathwing or Millhouse....in which case you just wait a turn.
This fits the recurring Shaman thing of "pulling random stuff out of my ass to win me the game on the spot due to sheer RNG" (as previously seen in Evolve and Fleshshaper shenanigans)
The main difference to Shifter Zerus is the mana cost. If draw this before turn 5 there's a good chance that it will transform into something useful by the time you can play it.
I actually looked at all the available legendaries now and there's honestly not that many really bad outcomes. At worst you'd play this as just a blank 5/5 for tempo, which isn't the worst thing if the rest of your deck is solid...at best you can just win the game on the spot by cheating value.
a list of all the good outcomes (in terms of cost efficiency and occasional upside depending on which deck you're playing):
Lucentbark, Splintergraft, Cenarius, Houndmaster Shaw, Halazzi, Flark, Vereesa, King Krush, Emeriss, Arugal, Luna, Toki, Antonidas, Malacrass, Kalecgos, Kangor, Finley, Thekal, Glass Knight, Prince Liam, Tirion, Nozari, Shirvallah, Lazul, Amet, Lady in White, Bwonsamdi, Velen, Catrina Muerte, Princess Talanji, Van Cleef, Face Collector, Gral, Myra, Togwaggle, Electra, Zentimo, Vessina, Swamp qqueen Hagatha, Al'akir, Shudderwock, Jeklik, Tekhan, Dr. Morrigan, Glinda Crowskin, Rafaam, Godfrey, Betrug, Hir'eek, Jaraxxus, Voone, Darius Crowley, Armagedillo, Akali, Grom, Boom reaver, Thalnos, Nat Pagle, Brightwing, Zephrys (?), SnipSnap, Tinkmaster, Vargoth, Barista Lynchen, Greenskin, Dollmaster Dorian, Harrison Jones, Leeroy, Zilliax, Cairne, Hogger, Illidan, Mojomaster Zihi, The Black Knight, Azalina Soulthief, Baron Geddon, Ashmore, HI Whiteman, Siamat, Gruul, Jepetto, Octosari, Alexstraza, Malygos, Onyxia, Ysera, Colossus of the mOon, King Phaoris.
As far as value goes, the odds are in your favour, and every so often you might jusst get exactly what you need (Tekhan in Quest Shaman would be insane, Al'akir in aggro)
I am sensing a pattern of reusing old effects for no reason.
It's a weird case.
It's less bad than it looks, but it's still kind of pointless.
If you play this on an empty board (or a board you just traded into) you're most likely going to get some serious value out of it. 13/13 worth of stats for onlny 6-mana is pretty good and since they have rush you're not really wasting a turn (unless you're playing aggressively)
On the other hand, you can never just play this onto a board where your opponent can just trade into the eggs. At best it'll let you avoid some face damage or cause unfavorable trades for your opponent.
It's not as bad as Warlock or Druid's legendary dragon, but it just doesn't really seem like something you'd actively put into your deck....which is where Draconic Lackey comes in. It might not be a good card, but it's a decent thing to just drop on curve in a Quest Shaman deck if you have nothing better. Quest Shaman is a deck that has decent recovery and can afford a turn of bad tempo for a bigger swing later on.